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Old 02-06-2005, 08:52 PM
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Professor Rae flicked her wand at the door to the classroom and watched it swing open. Once it was set in place, she turned back to the papers on her desk. She was doing some research on a spell for a friend in the Department of Aurors and Rae wanted to get another chapter scanned before the students wandered in. They'd be restless due to the nice day outside, but it was getting colder each day.
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Alicia reads from Fantasic Beasts and where to find them : Madame Elfrida Clagg declared that "beings were creatures who could speak a human language
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"You're on the right track in figuring out which classification the banshee fits under, but since we haven't successfully defined the classifications, we can't really tell. Can ANYONE tell me the three classifications?"
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Alicia raises her hand again: "beast, ghost, and being"
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"Mysticelf is close as well." She shook her head. "I didn't know this one was such a stumper."
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In Professor Rae's remark to Nadia asking for her to allow the other houses to gain points, Anelreas mumbled, cheerfully. "I'm a Slytherin. Let her talk away!"
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Naida smiled and shrugged. I hadn't earned any anyway, she thought humored.

Nadia titled her had. "Spirit, Beings and Beasts. Aren't those the three classifications? I'm in two minds on what the Banshee is though..."
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"There it is," Professor Rae clapped her hands together and chuckled. "Nadia got it. I thought maybe I had confused you too much with the beasts versus creatures thing, but you caught the mistake. Perfect. Five points for Slytherin! So... it seems the debate is on. Mind, these classifications are Wizard made, but let's see if we can come to the same conclusion the MoM did."
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Nadia considered the answer again and questioned,

"Shouldn't be first know if the Banshees can communicate of show signs of intelligence? Or if it tangible... No, wait -" her eyes popped open. "I got it. They are definitely Spirits. After all most intelligent creatures are regarded as beast because of their violent instincts. The Banshee is a dark creature, therefore, cannot be considered a tame Being. Hence, it must be a Spirit."

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A spirit is a human that is no longer living, A remnant of what once was, A beast is like an animal that lacks human qualities, and a being is any creature that has enough intelligence to understand right from wrong and the laws of the magical community and follow those laws
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"Are spirits classified by their not having a physical body? Because if a Banshee has a physical body then it wouldn't be a Spirit would it?"
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"But a Spirit is the same as a ghost, is it not? Banshees were never once living." Anelreas said. "So doesn't that count out Spirit?"
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"Professor, was my response in saying 'ghost' wrong?" "anyway is a banshee a demon with semi- human intelligence along with a humanoid figure"
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"Kirstie has it. That's a great point. The other creatures in the Spirit catagory include ghosts, which are non-corporeal. Banshees are not solid. They have no bodies, although they do have form. There is some communication, I suppose, but mostly that wailing is all they do. Five points to Slytherin. However, a spirit doesn't necessarily mean that they were once alive and are now dead. It has more to do with the form they now take. And Nadia, both beasts and beings can be dark or violent. The Darkness is not necessarily an indictor of MoM status."
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"Yes, they aren't a ghost, but they aren't a demon either. Not in the sense you mean. Demon is a Muggle term, although it often refers to Dark creatures. Anyone want to argue that a banshee is not in fact a spirit? I'm taking counter-arguments at this time."
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"I was not meaning dark, as I was meaning violent nature," Nadia clariffied. "I was just remembering the fact why Sphinxes aren't Beings: as much as they know how to speak and think, they are vilent the moment they are being the wrong answer. Since the Banshee naturally seeks to cause pain it wouldn't be considered Being, right?"

"So no contra-arguments. I prefer the classification of Spirits, according to the MoM. Though then again, if it was in me, I would consider Sphinxes Beings."

She leaned and told Kristie. "I thought the same thing but Dementors are classified as Spirits, I have understood... so you don't need to be alive to fall into that cathegory, me thinks."
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"No, Mithos... if a banshee wasn't a Spirit, it could be either a beast or a being even still. And I see what you're saying, Nadia. But the thing that is keeping a Sphinx from being a Being is that despite its ability to communicate, it never does. It speaks only in riddles, meaning there is really no way to accurately determine if it is capable of making and keeping laws. A similar problem exists with the banshee, I suppose, because they may be fully capable of communication behind the wailing, we've just never been privy to it. As for your last question, mysticelf, we'll get to that shortly."

"Now, if we're settled on the banshee being a spirit, can anyone tell me where the majority of banshees choose to dwell? Where are they found?"
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"No, Mithos... if a banshee wasn't a Spirit, it could be either a beast or a being even still. And I see what you're saying, Nadia. But the thing that is keeping a Sphinx from being a Being is that despite its ability to communicate, it never does. It speaks only in riddles, meaning there is really no way to accurately determine if it is capable of making and keeping laws. A similar problem exists with the banshee, I suppose, because they may be fully capable of communication behind the wailing, we've just never been privy to it. As for your last question, mysticelf, we'll get to that shortly."

"Now, if we're settled on the banshee being a spirit, can anyone tell me where the majority of banshees choose to dwell? Where are they found?"
kasandra puts up her hand "what do you mean by that question?where theylive or what contry?if it is contry it is ireland...i think and i it where they live i think it is either a drak cave or a graveyard....or mabey thats a grim..no i think its banshees."
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Nadia smiled shippishly. "I know, it is too dangeruos too. But the manticore and acromantulas can speak as well, and the sphinx does understand when the riddle is wrong. That's what I meant --"

But then a new question was asked. Nadia raised her hand. "There are three places. One, as I already said, is Ireland, that's why it's so feared there. In Scotland the banshee is known as caoineag (wailing woman) and, although seldom seen, she is often heard in the hills and glens, by lakes or running water. The Welsh counterpart is the Gwrach y Rhibyn."
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