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FearlessLeader19 · 07-20-2017, 06:00 PM

It’s the very last day in April and it was a brilliant day out. Your Professors- Newton and K Stewart- have taken the time to plan a joint lesson that they hope you will enjoy and know you will find quite useful. Though it was being held in Professor Rose’s classroom, Professor Kay was there at the door to greet all of you as you enter. Rose was sitting at her desk, waiting to say hello as well.

Go on and take a seat anywhere you like! The room was rather airy as Professor Newton had every single window open. Just don’t doze off thanks to the good weather should you choose to sit next to one. Professor Stewart would be most displeased.

What shall today’s lessons be about? Written on the board before the room is “MAGIC IS MIGHT. Or is it?’’ You may want to ponder upon this statement while you wait for things to get started.

Lesson's Progression:
What do you know about the International Statute of Wizarding Secrecy?
Some clarification
Explanation of the Statute of Secrecy
Tell us about Carlotta Pinkstone or your opinion about the Statute
Information about Carlotta and your opinions!
Activity time!
Final part of the activity!

OOC: Welcome, everyone! Chatter is okay but just do not go overboard. Remember to read the rules for both Professors Newton and Stewart before posting. Also keep in mind that SS rules apply! ~~Whit will get started in 24 hours!~~ THE LESSON HAS STARTED!!

ArianaBlack · 07-24-2017, 04:03 AM

WHAT THE HECK???

There were DEFINITELY other people who didn't contribute to the lesson yet either and they weren't called out for it. Honestly, she just came out for a good time and suddenly she was feeling sooOOooOOoo attacked. Unfair. Truly. Y'know how Professors could have favorites? Professor Stewart clearly had an UNfavorite. And it was Zoryn.

Not that the girl minded all that much 'cause to be fair, Muggle Studies was her most UNfavorite class.

And no, she did not have any questions. Well, aside from 'when will this lesson be over?' but she figured that one wouldn't be taken to very well. So instead, she stayed quiet.

Lady of Light · 07-24-2017, 12:24 PM

Um. WOW. That was a lot of information. Etta sighed, her mind wandering once again. Yes, OWLs. Muggle Studies wasn't really that bad, honestly.. or even History of Magic. One just needed to remember a lot of details but that was it. She was more worried about Ancient Runes and Arithmancy, though. Those were subjects she wasn't really good at and there wasn't enough time to have someone help her..

Questions? Nope. No questions at all. But she did write down what was being said.. at least, note down all the super important things. She set her quill back on the table, pushing the thought of exams out of her mind and wondered what activity the professor had in mind. Hopefully, something really fun.

sweetpinkpixie · 07-24-2017, 12:49 PM

Derf kept quiet for a moment, a THOUGHT very VERY loud in his head and making his eyes wander around the classroom and eventually falling on Etta for a moment. He hadn't actually talked to anyone about the tasks specifically...and he spent the majority of them hiding away with Abey because the tasks themselves could be triggering to his Gryffindor...but he had heard rumors and gossip. This WAS Hogwarts after all, you know? Nothing stayed secret for long.

Which was why he was SURE his exposing of the Charms professor as a werewolf was just around the corner. And all the hags on staff. And the professor Dark lords.

Swallowing, Derf timidly raised his hand. "Profes-s-ssors?" he asked meekly. "Haven't...um...haven't some of the tasks of this tournament thingy...um...haven't they KINDA been the embodiment of...magic is might?"

itsjustjesse · 07-24-2017, 04:19 PM

Melbourne’s eyebrows knitted together as she took notes for the class. As it currently stands…that almost made Mel question what Professor Stewarts true opinions on the statute were. Was she deluded into thinking that muggles would simply open their arms welcomingly to the magical folks that seemed to have it easier than those…well, without magical abilities? Was she one of those that thought that muggles were suppressed and that witches and wizards’ did all that they could to oppress those who couldn’t wield magic upon command? Or well, upon the proper use of words and intent.

Melbourne looked over to Zoryn when she was called out. In a hushed tone she muttered to the girl, ”hey…um…do you want to borrow my notes?” after all Mel didn’t like when people were called out and made to feel well…bad about things?

Derf’s question just made Mel grin.

Heck yeah kiddo they so were.

”I have to say that I agree with Derfael…” Melbourne spoke only moments after raising her hand. ”after all the first task did deal with muggles…or people that we were lead to believe were muggles and dementors.”

NifflerFan · 07-24-2017, 05:37 PM

Emmeline shot Zoryn a sympathetic look. She hadn't been the only one being quiet, but the first year supposed that Professor Stewart was on the extra look out for Zoryn's zoning out 'cause she zoned out in Muggle Studies once before maybe.

She didn't have too much time for distractions though 'cause now Professor Stewart was talking a lot and Emmeline's attention was absorbed in frantically scribbling down notes. She put down her quill in relief when the professor asked if they had any questions; paying attention properly AND taking good notes was super hard. And then, Derf asked a super good question and Mel backed him up. And Emmeline was super glad that there was finally a lesson where they could talk about how evil and wrong the tournament tasks had been so far. She wasted zero time in raising her hand and adding on, "Derf is sooo right. And and, they kidnapped a poor little Muggle boy for the last task. Doesn't that like, really mess up Muggle relations? That kid and his parents will hate magic forEVER now, and I heard he's Miss Valerie's cousin. Which is sooo messed up 'cause now her own family will probably be all scared of her if not WORSE. How come they're allowed to do all this stuff? We shouldn't be allowed to mess with Muggles and put their kids in super danger just 'cause we can wipe their memories and stuff." Yup, the last task had been by far the worst in terms of cost to the champions and victims in Emmeline's opinion.

Goblinfrog · 07-24-2017, 07:10 PM

Kitty felt admiration for several of her classmates when they said that they thought there should be a way to cure Muggles, even if they supported the Statute While she herself wanted the Statute completely repealed, she could appreciate and welcome their concern for at least one part of the Statute.

But Katy's attacks on her hero Carlotta made her want to cover her ears and start humming. Of course she didn't do that, but she could feel her anger levels rising as Katy accused Carlotta of not caring about Muggles and being selfish. To stop herself from retorting back angrily, she focused on one of the open windows and breathed like how her Yoga instructor taught her to. When she felt calm again, she turned to address Katy in as sweet a voice as she could. "But Katy, I was just wondering how else was she supposed to get people to notice her cause? If she hadn't broken any laws then the newspapers wouldn't have written about her and we wouldn't know as much as we do." That wasn't selfish! Kitty was planning to do the exact same thing when she graduated.

Then Derf raised his hand and made a very perfect point. Melbourne and Emmeline soon joined in, and Kitty decided she would to.

"I agree with them," she said, raising her hand. "Why is it fair when Muggles are put in danger for our entertainment and then have their memories wiped?" She understood why Valerie and the others were so angry over that.

Erindipity · 07-24-2017, 10:20 PM

This... was not something she cared to discuss. This line of questioning and debate about something that was still a sore spot with her. Like really. Had any of them been in that competition they might have a little more thought about NOT speaking on it in class.

Not that they were wrong, necessarily, just that maybe she didn't want to relive any of it... which she kind of was at the moment. Her mind raced and such.

Raising her hand, the Gryffindor cleared her throat and said, "The statute is the focus today. Not the IMPS. With that being said, aren't there heavy penalties for breaking the statute?" Not that she didn't KNOW that there were, but maybe they could shed some light on things and steer the conversation away from what was making her uncomfortable.

Have a heart, guys.

Also her eyes sought out Etta to see if she was alright.

SilverTiger · 07-24-2017, 10:45 PM

Stasya had been quiet, but not because she’d stopped paying attention. Instead, it was mostly because from the first moment, when the Ravenclaw prefect had happened yet again, she had just been watching it all unfold with wide eyes, scared that something was going to happen to make things get scary again. The twelve year old was starting to wonder if maybe the professors wanted to cause arguments, even, and she felt like it was safer to just take notes on the important stuff instead of get involved. Besides, she hadn’t really had anything else to contribute that hadn’t been said. The only things she knew were what she’d read, anyhow. Plus, however unfair it was to have called out Zoryn over by the windows, at least she had been taking notes. She was trying to pay attention, but the subject matter was keeping her wide eyed.

Especially when Derf had suddenly come out and said that the tournament thing was basically challenging the statute, or at least that it was following the letter of the phrase on the blackboard which Professor Stewart had just pointed out had been used by Voldemort and his followers, and that made it extra scary. All it was doing was making her wonder if they were actually challenging the theory or if Kitty and the professors believed the same thing an extra-Dark wizard believed. And that just brought her back to what she’d been told about there being Dark wizards teaching here and made her wonder if maybe it wasn’t the professors she’d been told were, and so she was still silent.

Govoni · 07-25-2017, 12:44 AM

Honestly, after she'd made her contribution, the blonde's head had started to throb with a vengeance... So, she'd fallen silent. Stuff that caused grief, seemed to make it worse, and honestly, most discussions brought her some grief. Too many people trying to talk over one another. It was a pain. So, instead of subjecting herself to the torment, Liv kinda stared off into space, her thoughts drifting off to happier memories. More pleasant experiences. It eased the pressure somewhat.

After a few moments, she'd started to doodle little hearts in the corner of her notebook page. With not real male affiliation, just pretty hearts to decorate her notes. Oh, yeah, she needed to decide what potions she'd be working on...for the thing.

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Now it was her time to move the lesson along. The woman moved from the desk to the front of the class. “Thank you, Rose. Now, I’m very pleased to see just how much you all know about the Statute. It is a very crucial part of our world. However, over the course of the years, there have been witches and wizards who have opposed this Statue. None has been more prominent than Carlotta Pinkstone.’’ And here, Kay couldn’t help but wonder if the name Kitty Valentine would join Carlotta’s and the others. “Has any of you come across her name? Does anyone know anything about her?’’ Surely a few of them must. Carlotta was featured on the back of Chocolate Frog cards after all.

“For those of you who are not familiar with Carlotta, can you tell us what are your opinions on the Statute. Should we keep to ourselves? Should we reveal ourselves? Kindly remember to keep your responses respectable; do not attack anyone for their opinions.’’ This was a tricky topic, she knew and this is why she and Rose would be vigilant to the answers that would be pouring in.

Carlotta Pinkstone? No, thanks.

Deciding to answer the second posed question, as it was more a matter of opinion, Olivia raised her hand. "For the most part, I think people can be good, but actions speak louder than words. I don't think there's enough evidence to support the idea that we'd be safe. So, in the interest of our safety, I think we should remain separated." Because Olivia loved people, but ultimately, she chose herself over what may have been more morally right. Call her a selfish, narcissistic teenager all you like, but...facts were facts.

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“The quote on the board...’’ Kay inclined her head towards it. “Was used by the Ministry of Magic while it was in control by Voldemort during the years 1997 and 1998. Simply put, what it meant was that Muggles were inferiors to witches and wizards. The point that I’m trying to put across is that in both worlds, there will be some who want all the power or who will want the power over everyone else. Whether the Statute should be lifted will always remain a debate but it is not one that we will have.’’

Right. It was time that they move on. “Does anyone has any questions? If not, we shall move onto today’s activity.’’

......And here we go again.

Pushing through the sudden grossness she felt at this line of conversation, Liv carefully raised her hand again. She was hearing everyone, and understood where they were coming from... But felt this was getting them off-topic. Not that it was ever okay to use anyone (whoever they might be) as someone else's form of entertainment. That was definitely NOT okay...

"Professors, do you think.... Do you think there are ever any circumstances when magic would be okay to use? Say if you're trying to...protect yourself from a muggle?" Olivia was seriously curious.

Cassirin · 07-25-2017, 02:09 AM

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Kitty felt admiration for several of her classmates when they said that they thought there should be a way to cure Muggles, even if they supported the Statute While she herself wanted the Statute completely repealed, she could appreciate and welcome their concern for at least one part of the Statute.

But Katy's attacks on her hero Carlotta made her want to cover her ears and start humming. Of course she didn't do that, but she could feel her anger levels rising as Katy accused Carlotta of not caring about Muggles and being selfish. To stop herself from retorting back angrily, she focused on one of the open windows and breathed like how her Yoga instructor taught her to. When she felt calm again, she turned to address Katy in as sweet a voice as she could. "But Katy, I was just wondering how else was she supposed to get people to notice her cause? If she hadn't broken any laws then the newspapers wouldn't have written about her and we wouldn't know as much as we do." That wasn't selfish! Kitty was planning to do the exact same thing when she graduated.

Then Derf raised his hand and made a very perfect point. Melbourne and Emmeline soon joined in, and Kitty decided she would to.

"I agree with them," she said, raising her hand. "Why is it fair when Muggles are put in danger for our entertainment and then have their memories wiped?" She understood why Valerie and the others were so angry over that.

That girl who Katy was trying so hard to not address directly was poking at her. Poking. At. Her. It was good the professors were directing them away from this explosive debate topic, especially before someone lost their considerable temper.

Like Katy. Who felt a bit itchy in her wand hand and wondered what Kitty would look with her hair gone...

"I'm feeling personally attacked right now. It's making me uncomfortable." Maybe she should cry? Was that too much? How did one get a prefect expelled, anyway?

Goblinfrog · 07-25-2017, 02:35 AM

Gosh! Kitty really did not like this Katy. What was she playing at anyway? Forcing herself to remain calm, Kitty forced a contrite look on her face and turned to the professors.

"I'm sorry Professors, it was just a question. I didn't mean to offend her and I wouldn't have asked if I'd known that's how she felt."

Deep breaths. Just keep breathing and stare at anyone, anything, but HER.

FearlessLeader19 · 07-25-2017, 03:00 AM

Maybe she should have not called out Zoryn but Kay felt it quite necessary since the little talk they had in her office seemed to have made no difference at all. It didn’t mean she was picking on the girl. On contrary, she was looking out for her. At Mel’s gesture of kindness, the woman smiled, pleased. “Two points to Gryffindor for that, Ms Sorin- Ward.''

Ah, talk of the Challenges were bound to surface. Kay listened to the opinions given to her before offering any of her own. “Had Muggles been used, then certainly I would have agreed to what Mr Ashburry- Hawthorne is suggesting,’’ she said calmly looking around at them all. Then she took the time to shake her head at Emmeline. “No one was kidnapped, Ms Sparkes. I assure you, everyone gave their consent. The Ministry, anyone of the Hogwarts staff or Board of Governors would take any actions to harm any Muggles.’’ This, hopefully, answered Kitty’s question and settled her down. Yes, Kay heard the words said to Kay quite clearly and the Ravenclaw received a pointed look. If Kitty took it any further, she would definitely be loosing a bundle of House points and maybe have a few hours in detention. "Apology accepted, Ms Valentine.''

“Thank you, Ms Umbridge,’’ the woman added with a slight smile to the Gryffindor. “Yes, the most common penalty is imprisonment in Azkaban.’’ Blue eyes moved to Olivia. “Excellent question, Ms Phillips! You’ve touched on our activity for today, actually. But to answer your question: Clause Seven of the Decree does dictate that magic may be used before Muggles in exceptional circumstances and those circumstances certainly include situations which threaten the life of the wizard or witch himself or herself as well as any witches, wizards or any Muggles present at the given time.’’

It was definitely time to move the lesson along. “Today, we shall have an activity designed to test your understanding of how important the Statute is. Professor Newton and I will pose scenarios to you and you have to let us know if you would reveal your magical abilities or not. It’s as simple as that.’’ Kay knew that this could very well spark debates but so far, she and Rose had managed to prevent this and was determined and confident that they continue the trend.

“First scenario: a close muggle friend has met with a fatal accident. You’re among the first rescuers to get to him or her and you realise it would take an extended period of time for the help they need to get to them. Healing Charms can help but unfortunately, you’re in the company of other Muggles. Would you use magic to save your friend?

“Scenario two: a Muggle friend is bored and wants entertainment. Being the good friend that you are, you are tempted to use your magical abilities to perform a series of tricks for them. Would you really go through with it?

“You may respond to both scenarios or just one.’’ They were both ‘open’ situations and could be resolved without the use of magic but it was of utmost importance to her and Rose that the students realise just how important it was to uphold the Statute no matter how heroic their thoughts might be. If she remembered correctly, the best friend had a scenario similar to the one Olivia mentioned. The Gryffindor will have her chance to voice her own opinions soon regarding her own question.

OOC: Hello! You guys are making this such a fun lesson! While Whitty and I are loving the discussion about the Statue and IMPS, Rose and Kay are keen to avoid any debates

But keep those posts and opinions coming! <3 Whit will continue in about 24 hours. Also, please refer to this post where Zoe/ Regina clearly mentions that the champions' persons of importance had given consent

DISCLAIMER: This link leads to a post made in the IMPS viewing area.

lemon · 07-25-2017, 03:53 AM

What? Nicholas thought the first scenario was absolutely preposterous. He wasn't friends with Muggles! Honestly, where was he supposed to find one? Just go pick some of the street with a how d'you do and a wand shoved up his sleeve rather than in his palm? Ridiculous.

He would NOT entertain such fodder with a descriptive answer. Hmph.

"In neither scenario, professor," he began with his hand raised, "would I use magic." The fifth year would abstain in the latter, because it was silly, and the prior, because it was implausible.

ArianaBlack · 07-25-2017, 03:59 AM

HMPH.

The second year was SOooOOOOOoooOo angry. She did NOT wanna be here!!!! Forget Katy, ZORYN WAS FEELING PERSONALLY ATTACKED AND UNCOMFORTABLE TOO! Was she being overdramatic? MAYBE. But STILL. This wasn’t fair.

“Thanks,” she grinned at Mel who had offered up her notes. At least SOME PEOPLE were nice around here. Unlike CERTAIN PROFESSORS. Zoryn was gonna protest, by the way. She wasn’t sure how yet, but she was protesting. Which meant she was tuning her Professors out now, despite the fact that she was suddenly very much engaged in the happenings around her. Like that look Emmeline gave her, which Zoryn returned with a shrug.

And although Zoryn was PROTESTING by NOT voicing her thoughts, she definitely heard what Derf had to say (‘cause unlike her philosophy for listening to Professor’s, Zoryn ALWAYS listened to her friends). YEAH. The tournament used muggles!!! The muggle FAMILY members! And sorta the challenge with the patronus, but those were just dummies. Kinda like how Professor Stewart was being a dummy. Zoryn thought so at least.

Was Zoryn gonna answer the scenario questions?

NO. ‘Cause, like, protesting, remember?

Instead the Gryffindor crossed her arms and slumped down further into her seat. She even pretended like she was taking notes too so that she couldn’t get any points taken off.

Man, life was gonna be SO great when she dropped this class next term!!!

NifflerFan · 07-25-2017, 06:48 AM

This lesson had taken such a confusing turn. Big kids were kind of having a go at each other like sneakily apparently? At least, Emmeline thought that was what was going on. And Professor Stewart's reply to her did not make the first year feel any better at all, nope. 'Cause like...how could a little Muggle boy give his consent and that be accepted?! She wasn't sure how old Miss Valerie's person was, but he didn't look like he was even old enough to go to Hogwarts or Ilvermorny. And and, she was eleven and had to go to court with a whole bunch of grown ups to be allowed to move in with the other Professor Stewart. Miss Judge hadn't just asked her what she thought and said 'okay.' So how come a boy even younger than her AND a Muggle could do that for something even more scary and dangerous?! It just didn't make any sense, like at all. Probably because it was WRONG. The Gryffindor opened her mouth to let some of these thoughts stop swimming in her head and start swimming in the air as words when she forced herself to stop. She had forgotten that there was an actual champion in class with them today. Emmeline's eyes sought out Dora's face and hoped reallllly hard that the older girl wasn't like, hurting from all this talking. After all, Dora had more right to talk about the evil third task than the rest of them did, 'cept for the other champions of course.

Time to re-focus, yup. Otherwise, she'd drown in all her swimming thoughts and end up too deep for even the giant squid to fish her out and back to the lesson. She tuned back in to Professor Stewart in time to hear the two pretend scenes that they were supposed to answer. The second one was obviously a trap -- of course they couldn't use their magic just 'cause someone was bored. Professor Stewart had just said so. The first one was way harder, though, and Emmeline scrunched up her forehead in concentration. In the end, she raised her hand and answered: "I'd use magic in the first pretend scene, professors, 'cause someone's life is wayy super important and I don't know any Muggle healing and stuff." Not that she really knew any healing spells either, but she supposed they were pretending that they did for this question.

Emmeline had just bent over her notes -- which were like 3 lines long, progress! -- and started doodling Picketta, Albus, and Sirius playing in the margins when it fully, totally hit her that her best friend had been super quiet the whooole time. She shot a sideways glance at Stasya, who was after all sitting next to her, and frowned at the expression on the other girl's face. Lowering her voice and leaning towards Stasya, she whispered: "What's wrong, Stas?" She should have realized that her friend was upset earlier. This was why letting thoughts swim away with you was bad, yup. She desperately super hoped that Stasya was okay.

Daydreamer11 · 07-25-2017, 08:18 AM

Never a dull moment at Hogwarts. Shay just sat back and listened. She had given her opinion and that was that for her. However, things were starting to get a little testy. Fortunately though, it seemed that things were not going to to get out of hand. Not yet anyway. Professor Stewart gave her thoughts and then prepared some hypothetical scenarios. One was not hard for Shay to comment on. The other one, well that remained to be seen.

Shay had to think about it for a moment. When she had made her decision, she raised her hand. "With scenario number two, no I would not use my magical skills to entertain muggles. That is so unnecessary. If I was going to break the statute of Secrecy, it would not be for something as unimportant as that.". Taking a breath, Shay went on. "On the other hand, if it was a matter of life and death........I would have to think twice. If I could save my friend's life, I would probably try it.......that is if no muggle methods were working. Now of course I wouldn't be obvious. I would try a very discreet non verbal healing charm." Shay knew that this was probably not what her professors wanted to hear. But if this wasn't an exceptional circumstance, she didn't know what was. "If the accident was in fact fatal, then there would be nothing I could do to help my friend. No magic could help them."

hermygirl · 07-25-2017, 11:05 AM

Sam had stayed quiet in the lesson so far, diligently making notes, aware that there was likely to be at least one question on the Statute of Secrecy in her OWL exams. Her views on the statue was conflicted, and unlike others in this room, she didn't feel all that comfortable trying to verbalise them.

And at the mention of IMPS, her gaze sought out the Hogwarts Champions, Dora in particular. She'd been part of that challenge too, seen exactly what that Muggle boy had, albeit with a different Champion. She wasn't sure that seeing the Magic was the problem, since that was to save them from the cage and was positive thing. But that cold? It was real. And they could have put protective charms on that made them look cold but not feel it. Especially for the boy and the older people. Sam had felt it, and she'd grown up homeless, spending bitter winters on the street.

But that, as Dora said, wasn't the subject of today's lesson.

Of the scenarios given, the second was straight forward. "No, I wouldn't in the second case," she answered. "There's plenty of other means of entertainment. And it's pretty easy to make stuff disappear without magic, once you know 'ow." A watch, a wallet, even a necklace. She'd become rusty since her pickpocketing days, but she'd still be able to put on a Muggle friendly show.

The first scenario? That needed a bit more thought.

Lady of Light · 07-25-2017, 12:02 PM

Etta ignored all the debates/conversations that were going on in class. IMPS was a very sensitive subject and she really didn't like thinking about it so she doodled on her parchment, wishing the professor would just move on already. PLUS. Kitty and Katy seemed to be on the brink of getting into a fight and they really didn't need all the drama.. gosh. And yes, she'd noticed Dora glancing at her earlier.. and she was totally fine. YEP. She'd have to thank her for the concern later. That girl was rather sweet.

Etta frowned at Nicholas's response. Wow, he really was heartless.. wasn't he? She mentally shook her head and considered both the scenarios that the professor mentioned. "Well, professor.. scenario two is obvious. I wouldn't use magic but as for the first one.. I would say that one's health and life are more important than a statute so magic it is."

Kimothy · 07-25-2017, 12:20 PM

Vivian had kept herself too busy by quietly drumming her fingers on her desk, that she had forgotten she was seated in class. The blonde blinked her eyes and diverted her attention to Professor Stewart with a "hmmm, what was the answer to that again?" face. Though, really, it was mostly a confused look. Merlin, she should stop drifting into daydream world.

The bright side of it all? She was able to catch the scenario part of the situation, which Vivian listened to intently. She needed to focus on what was in front of her. So... uh, were they supposed to choose which scenario she would have used magic in? Right, that was interesting. In all honesty, Vivian may have used magic in the second scenario because, if she were the Muggle, she would have been so excited and interested at someone performing magic. But of course, that wasn't the case here, and they were opting for the more logical answer. And logical answer, it was. Vivian raised her hand to share. "I wouldn't use magic in the second scenario, Professor," she said, nodding as well to make it seem convincing. "As for the first scenario, I'm not so sure. I would have helped, yes, but that would probably get me into trouble." Which she didn't mind, to be honest, so she was obviously going to perform magic in the first situation... but she wasn't going to say that.

Ahem, yes. Vivian nodded and smiled at the Professor. She was done, and she actually listened this time!

Goblinfrog · 07-25-2017, 02:28 PM

Kitty looked down at her desk at Professor Stewart's stern look. It wasn't fair at all! Last year when she'd criticized Salathar Slytherin, Katy had insulted her and said that she HATED her. Granted, Kitty had returned the insult - but that didn't change that Katy started it. So why did Katy get to attack her hero (Pinkstone) and then cry about feeling attacked when Kitty very politely tried to question her?

Not thinking about Katy, Kitty did her best to answer the next questions. "For the first scenario I would of course break the Statute to save my friends life. Even if it wasn't my friend and it was a complete stranger, I would still save her or his life. If we're allowed to use magic to save one of our own, then we should do the same for Muggles. But for the second scenario I wouldn't break the Statute, because I wouldn't want to go to Azkaban just to impress my friends."

Would Katy save a Muggle friend if it meant breaking the Statute? Did she even have Muggle friends, Kitty wondered?

*PhoenixRising* · 07-25-2017, 02:34 PM

Uh WHAT!?! Skylar had been plainly ignoring the debates/conversations about the IMPS challenges, in particular the third one because she too had been a part of it. She was full aware about the consent and she was grateful to Dora for steering the conversation back to the Statute. And for Professor Stewart for gently reminding them of the topic as well.

Scenarios? How interesting and it seemed at least her peers were on the same level of consciousness that she was, for the most part. Except was it wrong if she kind of wanted to play devil's advocate as she so enjoyed doing on previous occasions?

"I think, the first scenario depends. I mean even if you're aware that healing charms can help out and save a life ... magic is might. If you're not fully competent with healing charms, then unfortunately you could maim your friend quicker than would natural." Sky said, after raising her hand. "And the second scenario depends as well ... what sort of magical abilities and tricks are you performing to entertain? You could just play with a quaffle, which is magic ... or perhaps wizarding snaps or wizarding chess. It doesn't have to be wandlore magic tricks." Really, Stewart hadn't specified about using a wand, so no need to jump ship and assume. There were plenty of entertaining magical games that didn't involve use of a wand.

Charely Potter · 07-25-2017, 10:15 PM

Kirk was relatively bored in this lesson, but not enough to tune out completely. He continued to doodle some more when they were asked for any questions before the activity. He smiled into his doodling when Mel was being kind enough to earn herself some points. She was very sweet. "Nice job Mel," Could he sneak in a congratulatory kiss with her? He glanced up waiting until both Professors eyes weren't in their direction before leaning to deliver one on her cheek. They were seated close enough after all. He went straight back to taking notes to remain innocent looking until the activity was called.

In both scenarios? "The first scenario seems alright, if I were able to do some spells without a wand you could get away with that more easily than the second scenario. I wouldn't need to use magic to impress my friends, there's plenty of other stuff we could do."

itsjustjesse · 07-26-2017, 01:02 AM

Melbourne had gone silent after the comment about muggles not really being used…but still, that whole first challenge had been wrong. Really, she hadn’t seen Carl look so…so…hurt by anything before except for well maybe the whole thing where she had kissed him and then dated someone else a few months later but…but, he was, he was special to her still. He was just a different kind of special like a soul-friend-special.

Zoryn got a small nod in return, but seriously Mel’s notes were among the thing’s she would share with her housemates…and friends and really anyone if they needed them because HELLOOOO one day they might be needed for OWLs or NEWTs and for eher…well, that was coming SO quickly.

Don’t panic she told herself before looking toward Kitty as she answered…that was when she heard Kirk’s comment to her and smiled softly in return. ”Thanks Kirk, she muttered quietly as she was debating turning to give him a thank-you-smile when she felt it. He had kissed her cheek, and now her face was probably as red as the curtains in the common room. ”…” she couldn’t think for a moment.

Right…Kitty. Mel gave her a slightly more awkward than intended smile at her words. Raising her hand Melbourne spoke up giving her two knuts on the topic. ”As harsh as it sounds, for the first scenario I wouldn’t want to break the statute…not really, but I would try and find work-arounds for it.” Melbourne’s voice was somewhat shaking as she spoke, ”B-by workarounds…I mean that it is my intent to at least look into becoming a healer, so I would use my expertise in the situation and ask the surrounding muggles to help find things – like for example…go find towels, anything to stop bleeding and do as much as I can to limit the exposure of any magic I would use to muggles that are aware of the presense of magic…for example, if my cousin Natalie Denaker were hurt I would make sure th-that Hadley is there to help…she-she’s her twin if anything were to go wrong I’d want her to be there in her time of need…a-and I would try to use things that I always carry on me on the behest of my very very veeeeerrrrryyy silly father…” she paused before reaching into her bag and pulled a few bottles from it. ” – he’s afraid I’ll get hurt so I always have a bottle of skelegro, a few bezoar stones for the accidental poisoning…oh and a bottle of healing salve and burn paste.” she shrugged before adding in ”we don’t have to use our wands to use magic – we can use pomades and healing unctions’ in lue of wanded magic.”

Oh…wait…had she basically confirmed that Dustin was a little on the nutzo-bananas side of the ‘protective father’ spectrum in front of Kirk…why yes. Yes she had. Hah. This would be fun. ”oh – and as Kirk,” she grinned over to him before placing her hand delicately on his shoulder and…did she just sigh? Oh well, ”and others mentioned – I wouldn’t use magic to entertain non-magical folks…there are plenty of things you can do to entertain eachother” and no, no she was not going to admit that one of the easiest was snogging…this, she was in class not like having a private chat with Hads.

Cassirin · 07-26-2017, 01:22 AM

Katy crossed her eyes at Kitty, who was clearly the loser in this situation, before turning her attention back to the professors. Scenarios were better than debate, although there was little doubt they were all going to answer the way the professors wanted them to answer. Save a life because it was a forgivable offense; don't be stupid and do magic tricks with magic. That was easy.

And that Kitty girl was looking at her again. Go away, nerd.

Katy raised her hand. "I think if you don't know healing spells, you could do more harm than good by using magic on a person, whether there's an audience or not. And if the incident was really fatal, there's no point helping someone who has died, and your efforts could be seen as offensive by Muggle observers. But if you could really help and you know what you're doing, it would be a shame not to help."

WhittyBitty · 07-26-2017, 03:00 AM

Standing to the side, Rosalyn listened carefully as Kaysha took over the lesson. While there weren't many people enthused with hearing about Carlotta Pinkstone, there was a reason why she had been brought up and hopefully the students were paying attention to this. Notes were important, which is why she sent a smile towards Melbourne for offering hers to Zoryn. Those points were well earned.

"Your apology is accepted, Miss Valentine," she seconded. She and Kay were trying very hard to steer this lesson away from heated debate, and so far it was working fairly well. Whatever had come between her and Katy would hopefully be resolved. The fact of the matter was that this was a topic that could get heated rather quickly. That didn't change the fact that it was something that the students should know about. This was an important part of wizarding history.

It was no real shock to Rosalyn when the can of worms that was the IMPS was brought up by some of the students. While she herself had a problem with the third challenge, that was only because of the way that challengers responded to seeing their loved ones in such a state. The fact of the matter was that there had been complete consent before the challenge was performed and no way that anyone would get badly injured or killed. Kay had said things in the exact way that she would. So long as it was understood that no one was kidnapped and no real muggles were used for the first challenge, hopefully the students would feel relieved and not worry about this anymore.

Most of the students were up to giving their opinions on the scenario though there were a few who didn't seem up to it. Miss Spinnet in particular seemed to be in a sour mood, and it was probably because of what Kay had said to her. That was sad, but her friend had only said it to try and be helpful. There was no way that Kay would ever have done anything like that just to be mean and spiteful. She sent the girl an encouraging smile, hoping that she would calm down and be more willing to participate. If not that was completely fine too; they were running a bit low on time anyway, though there was still enough time for her to give them a few more scenarios to think about.

She smiled at the class. "Great job, everyone! It seems that most of you would perform magic in the first one while doing nothing in the second one. A muggle in danger certainly falls under Clause Seven of the Decree, while of course performing magic in the second scenario would most likely land you in Azkaban." So basically they were paying attention and that was always a GOOD thing. After pausing for a moment, she continued. "There are two more scenarios to go, and since Miss Phillips has raised a good question, let's use hers for one of them." Rosalyn had prepared something else, but she thought it would be nice to use something that one of the students had offered up.

"Scenario three: You are walking in a deserted street at night and out of nowhere a tough looking muggle comes up to you intending to do harm. Would you perform magic to save yourself? Or would you do something else that doesn't involve revealing yourself?" More or less what Miss Phillips was driving at as far as protecting oneself from a muggle. While Kay had explained that magic could be used in said circumstances, it was good to gauge what the students would do in that situation. Because really they could do either and this would fall under personal beliefs.

"Scenario four: You find out that one of your muggle friends has become very sick. They have a disease that unfortunately there is no muggle cure for. Would you expose yourself and use your magical abilities to cure them?"

It was going to be interesting to hear what everyone had to say! "As with the first two scenarios you can respond to one or both of them." Or none at all as had been the case with some people. Really they wanted to hear opinions on this.

OOC: Loving all the responses. You are all making this such a fun lesson.

There is just this next set of scenarios and then it's a wrap! You have another 24 hours to get posts in before we are finished! Anyone who hasn't given their opinions for the first set of situations can still do so.

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