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Joint HoM and MS Lesson 3: The International Statute of Wizarding Secrecy
It’s the very last day in April and it was a brilliant day out. Your Professors- Newton and K Stewart- have taken the time to plan a joint lesson that they hope you will enjoy and know you will find quite useful. Though it was being held in Professor Rose’s classroom, Professor Kay was there at the door to greet all of you as you enter. Rose was sitting at her desk, waiting to say hello as well.
Go on and take a seat anywhere you like! The room was rather airy as Professor Newton had every single window open. Just don’t doze off thanks to the good weather should you choose to sit next to one. Professor Stewart would be most displeased.
What shall today’s lessons be about? Written on the board before the room is “MAGIC IS MIGHT. Or is it?’’ You may want to ponder upon this statement while you wait for things to get started.
OOC: Welcome, everyone! Chatter is okay but just do not go overboard. Remember to read the rules for both Professors Newton and Stewart before posting. Also keep in mind that SS rules apply! Whit will get started in 24 hours! THE LESSON HAS STARTED!!
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It didn't take a long time until the Professors started the lesson. The History of Magic Professor started asking them if they knew about International Statute of Wizarding Secrecy. Bada bada bada.... and Kitty Valentine was the first one to speak up and gave a very perfect answer mentioning about how cruel the statute was because the wizards were not allowed to interact with the muggles even have a relationship with them. Ava knew how passionate the Ravenclaw prefect about something muggle-related and probably would fight for it until... Well, who knows.
But then Emmeline spoke up disagreeing Kitty's words. Oh my, this would be such an interesting debate and it would be such a big miss if she didn't pay attention about it. The Gryffindor took another sip of coffee and kept her ears and eyes opened for another possible debate. If only she had snack for... Wait, she did have some cookies in bag!
By the way, was there something that she needed to say about the statute? Nope.
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Derf wasn't sure WHAT to say on the subject really...but it always seemed like the one Ravenclaw prefect - THE ONE WHO HAD ABANDONED HIM WHILE HE HAD BEEN UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF A FREEZING CHARM ON THE EDGE OF THE FORBIDDEN FOREST MIND YOU - always wanted to get on her box of soap...or however that expression went...when they got on this topic. Which was alright with him as far as the second year was concerned. Everyone OUGHT to have something they felt passionate about.
"My dad us-sed to be the Department Head for the Department of Magical Accidents-s and Catastrophes-s," he shared once it was his turn to speak. "And this-s one time there was a HUGE thing with magical creatures-s getting loos-se and s-stuff...cosmetic tes-sting...and s-s-some crups-s got loose in muggle areas-s-s and it was a right dis-saster...like...muggles-s would think that crups-s-s, who...you know...don't LIKE muggles-s by nature...were jus-s-st rabid dogs-s-s and..." He paused to swallow. "....put them DOWN if the muggle dog catching people caught them thinking they were rabid s-s-since they would just ATTACK. " Again, it was in the creature's nature just like it was a bowtruckle to defend its Home Tree, you know? "So the Statute als-so protects-s creatures-s too."
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And the lesson was starting, asking them about the International Statute of Wizarding Secrecy, something that the Ravenclaw Prefect was quick to jump on and offer her very passionate opinion about why it should be repealed. Something that Professor Newton, unlikely last time with the Founders discussion, was quick to dispute and calm the situation before it got out of control. Excellent control, but disappointment for her entertainment hour.
And to think she was about to see if she had any snacks to munch on while she listened to the debate, but now she supposed she ought to answer the question.
"It was first signed in 1689, but then officially established in 1692." During a time when witch burnings were very common, magic was seen as evil, so it was rather necessary for the protection of wizardkind and muggles and creatures, as Derf pointed out. Four hundred years later, after being in hiding, perhaps it was time to repeal it or ... perhaps not. As what Kitty failed to realize with her passion was that there was some idiotic people out there. People who would ruin it from them all. None of which Skylar would say, because Professor Newton didn't want their opinion about if it should be repealed or not; she just wanted to know what they knew about it.
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Shay was watching her classmates arrive when the lesson was called to order. She turned her attention to the professor, as she began to speak. It looked like History of Magic would be up first in this joint lesson. Annnnd the International Statute of Wizading Secrecy was the topic of the day. When the first question was posed and the answers started coming in, Shay thought that it might become yet another very heated discussion. Not that the occasional debate was unwelcome..........it was just that Hogwarts students sometimes took things to another level entirely. Anyway, the professor stepped in and shut it down before it could even begin.
Shay thought of her answer, then raised her hand to respond. "Each country's Ministry of Magic equivalent is responsible for keeping their own magical population hidden from muggles.......or they will face consequences." That was stating it simply. There were so many things involved in keeping wizards hidden. No magic in front of muggles, keeping the magical creatures hidden, camouflaging wizarding schools and on and on.
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Grinning happily at Stasya, because HER ickle, Olivia leaned over and have the girl a quick snuggly hug. Oh, and her other ickle, Emmeline. Offering a little wave, she went about getting out her notebook and pen. Did you see, Professor Stewart? No Quick Quotes today. Though, it definitely did make things more difficult, since she struggled with splitting her focus. Ugh, concentration issues could be a pain. Here was to trying, though.
With class officially beginning, she settled in to start on her notes. Liv typically liked to answer after everyone else did, so that she could make sure to offer up something original and unique. The girl loathed repeating anyone else's answers. But of course, as she always did, Kitty Valentine happened. Rubbing at her forehead, feeling the pressure on her brain, Olivia sighed. Before she could rebuke, however, Emmeline had been there with...talking sense. That earned an approving nod.
Just one thing, though...
"Ignorance is real, on both sides of this. Fanatics are dangerous and well-hidden." That was all she'd say. For now, unless Kitty wanted to get into it, which Olivia wouldn't shy away from. As was their way in this lessons. The blonde didn't know what it was about History of Magic that seemed to bring out the heated debates and discussions, but Liv was here for it. Should the need present itself. "If any of our kind chooses to interact with muggles, they'd need to dress the part. Blend in." So, that meant no robes or pointy hats, har har. "Though, I think this has become less of an issue over time. Fashion seems to always be universal." There was a brief pause before she quickly added, "And it has to be climate!appropriate. Nothing that would indicate that a witch or wizard has charmed themselves to keep warm or dry. Or whatever."
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Statute of Secrecy, huh? Dora had a lot she could say about it, but she opted to keep mum for the moment. The Gryffindor had no desire to debate with anyone. Especially when most everyone was close minded and refused to even entertain the idea that they may be wrong... But hey whatever. What was it that she knew to be fact?
Skylar offered the date it was signed and such...
Really, Dor was cool with just listening for the moment. MOST of her classmates weren't ignorant. Most.
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Having said her piece about avoiding heated debate (though she was sure that there were those who would have enjoyed the chaos), Rosalyn felt ready to address the class further.
And really she was pleased that there were students who knew so much about the Statute. "Great job everyone! I'm not going to go into TOO much detail about the statute, but I WILL elaborate a bit on the history of it. As Miss Diggory mentioned, it was signed in 1689 but wasn't properly established until 1692." Were they writing this stuff down? They never could know when dates would be important when it came to her lessons. Really they should be taking notes in general.
"As Miss Valentine mentioned, it was first brought about in response to persecution that witches and wizards faced. It was felt that offering muggles help at that point in time would be a death sentence." Rightly so seeing the amount of magical folks who were killed by muggles because of their magical abilities. "While there WERE those who managed escape, there were some who weren't as lucky. They had their wands stripped." One notable witch in her opinion was Wendelin the Weird who actually allowed herself to be caught 47 times because she used the Flame-Freezing Charm and actually enjoyed the tickling sensation that was produced when muggles tried to burn her! Crazy stuff. "Remember that the catalysts for the magical community for wanting something to be done were: the increase of witch burnings - including innocent muggles, persecution of wizarding children by muggles, and muggles who wanted magic performed for them to help them out, on top of being taught how to use magic."
Rosalyn paused for a moment before continuing. "The Ministry of Magic attempted to liaise with the muggle monarchs in charge of Britain at that time - William III and Mary II - through a special Ministry Delegation, but their attempt at gaining magical protection under muggle law failed." Something that she was sure that not too many people knew about. "You could say that was the straw that broke the camel's back, and as Miss Spinnet and Miss Morrison both mentioned, when the statute was put into effect we weren't allowed to perform magic in front of muggles." Something that should NEVER be repealed. Of course this was only simple terms, but nonetheless it was a good way of stating things. "This is why a number of magical villages came about. With the two societies alienated, witches and wizards joined together to create their own communities, and they were attracted to small villages and hamlets." One notable example of this was Godric's Hollow.
"Though of course we should keep in mind what Miss Sparkes has said about the Statute being in place to protect muggles as well. Think of the Death Eaters for example! Even with the statute in place they performed cruel acts on muggles. Imagine how much worse it would have been if there was no Statute in place. Miss Phillips is spot on with her comment about ignorance and fanatics." While there were certainly ones who wouldn't have cared about laws put in place, there were others who DID care about that - the Malfoys were a notable example. Anyway, Rosalyn wasn't going to elaborate on the muggle aspect because that was for Kaysha as the Muggle Studies expert!
One final thing, though. "I'm glad that Mr Ashburry-Hawthorne mentioned magical creatures, because that is an important part of the statute as well. They fall under Clause 73, which was enacted in 1750. This is why we have to be VERY careful of magical creatures around muggles and why incidents involving muggles and magical creatures have to be dealt with. Think about all the dragon incidents that have occurred." Of course that was only one example.
At any rate that was her part done. Time for her to hand things over to Kaysha. "Now we shall hear more about things from Professor Stewart."
All yours, Kay!
OOC: Thanks for all the great answers, guys! I tried to include everything into my post. Sorry if I missed something; that wasn't intentional.
Ali will be moving us along at around 11:00 pm EST. Catch up posts are welcome as always!
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Before class began Kirk had waited for class to start, he had occasionally turned to the door at the sound of footsteps. It was a natural curious thing, to see who else was arriving before going back to his own business. Well, until his girlfriend came in. He felt relieved through his nearly blank-slated expression, his eyes betrayed his secret relief though. He greeted her the usual way expressing to her his current thoughts when she sat. A pleasant surprise wasn't enough to describe it.
So.. that first question about the International Statute of Wizarding Secrecy.. Was there really anything else to express about it that wasn't covered by others already? Well, maybe there was but Kirk didn't quite see any other reasoning. He knew it was quite a secret and it was the main reason Muggle didn't know anything about magic outside their imagination. He knew it happened a looong time ago. So with that he was tempted to just kick back in his chair and just let things go the way it was.. But he had his notebook already out and decided to jot a few things instead. It would be useful on their next exam.
*scribble, scribble*
Statute.. good.. Death Eaters... bad...
*scribbles actual notes from Professor Newton*
After that Kirk casually began doodling the nearest star a number of light-years away. Oh? He raised his head up to hear Miss Stewart.
The comment from Zoryn was rather adorable, and Kitty smiled to herself when she said it. Kitty never got the impression that Zoryn liked History of Magic or Muggle Studies (though she'd never heard her say she didn't like them, it was just a hunch), so it was unlikely that she was really agreeing with her statement on repealing the Statute - but it was cute that she said it.
Then Emmeline very politely (even calling her Ms. Prefect) disagreed with her. Kitty was about to open her mouth to respond when Professor Newton brought the debate to a halt. Crestfallen and a little disappointed, the Ravenclaw prefect simply nodded and began scribbling notes of the information Rose was telling them.
Olivia's comment about ignorance on both sides made her want to respond, but she didn't want to get in trouble for continuing the debate. Instead and she just gave the Gryffindor a curious look.
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SPOILER!!: Kitty! <3
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Kitty was very interested for this lesson. It was being held by her two favorite professors on her two favorite subjects and she was insanely curious as to what the subject would be.
"Hello Professor Stewart, how are you?" said Kitty with a smile as she walked past Kay at the door. It was a nice day, wasn't it?
She sat down at the front row and read the message on the board. "Hello Professor Newton," she said as she mentally wondered if they were about to have a super interesting debate about magic.
It was no surprise to Kay that the first student to be present was Kitty. She was greeted by a warm smile. “Hello, good morning, Ms Valentine. Quite well, thank you for asking. Marshmallow would like you to have a play date with her again.’’ The crup was quite fond of the Ravenclaw.
SPOILER!!: Noelle! <3
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Heading into the classroom, Noelle looked around at how different it would be considering it was a joint class. It was rare but she was one of the early ones in class this time. Hmm.
"Hey Kitty" She said waving at her fellow prefect. She went in further and perched herself at one of the desks before looking at the board. Huh. Magic is might... or is it? What did that mean?
"Good morning professors" She said before pulling a few things out to get ready for class.
“Good morning to you too, Ms Summers,’’ Kay said airily. “I hope we’re going to have to duel each other again.’’ She had rather enjoyed their duel and thought that Roderick had gotten a brilliant idea for student/staff duels.
SPOILER!!: Kyle! <3
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Kyle made his way into the classroom and waved to the professors and students already there. He was lousy at History, but great in Muggle Studies. How in the world were the two going to fit together? How could they learn about muggles in a history of magic class? It didn't make any sense! But if anyone could fit them together, it would certainly be the professors. He went and sat next to one of the windows and laid his head on the desk while he waited for class to start. But he wasn't going to fall asleep! NOPE!!
The firstie got a smile as he entered the room and Kay’s eyes followed him as he took a seat beside one of the windows. Thankfully, Kyle didn’t look sleepy and she was also sure that he wouldn’t be throughout the lesson for this was going to be an interesting one.
SPOILER!!: Zoryn! <3
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It was like the two WORST classes in the entire world got together and had a baby.
Like WHO WANTED THIS?????
Literally no one asked for this. NO ONE.
Unless someone DID ask for this. In which case, when Zoryn found out which of her classmates it was, she was gonna personally see to it that they never had another idea ever again. This was the WORST day of her ENTIRE life!!!! WHY WOULD THE PROFESSORS DO THIS TO HER??????? She already had to take both of the classes individually. WASN'T THAT ENOUGH PAIN TO GO THROUGH????????????????????????
The second year had a VERY intense displeased look on her face as she walked into the classroom and chose a seat RIGHT by the window as far away from the front of the room.
If magic was might then Zoryn Spinnet wouldn't have to be here. And that was the real answer to the ambiguous board question.
My, my. Zoryn looked rather annoyed. “Good morning, Ms Spinnet.’’ This was a rather cheerful greeting as she aimed to try to put a smile on the Gryffindor’s face. “Don’t look so dismayed. This will be a lesson that you’ll enjoy. You’ll get to voice your opinions.’’
SPOILER!!: Cass! <3
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Joint History of Magic and Muggle Studies lesson.
Just a mite confusing since one was all about magical history and the other stuck to being non-magical right done to the writing utensils allowed. Not that Cassie thought muggle and magic couldn’t coexist just that it was an interesting combo of subjects in her mind as she made her way to the History of Magic classroom. “Good morning, Professor Stewart,” she greeted the woman whom was the first she met at the door. And a “Good day, Professor Newton,” followed as she stepped inside the room and took in the other woman at her desk.
Also interesting was the quote on the board. “Magic is…might,” she read quietly as she moved to take a seat. Hadn’t she read that from somewhere? The Ravenclaw mulled over the words as she set out her supplies, trying to think on them and what they had to do with...OH!
"Are we talking about the Second Wizarding World today, Professors?" she asked curiously.
“Good morning, Ms McNally!’’ Kay was very pleased to see that the kiddos were trekking in early. She’d have hated to get started and a some of them were late. “Go on, grab yourself a seat.’’ She added a nod in response to Rose’s answer to the question.
SPOILER!!: Olivia! <3
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A JOINT lesson? Why yes, Olivia thought very much so!
Be-bopping into the History of Magic classroom, in a pretty great mood (and on some strong headache potions), the blonde smiled to those already assembled. She also tugged the earbuds out, having decided to keep them in until she got to class. All the chatter in the corridors echoed off the stone walls and reverberated in her skull. So, it was just best to block that all out. Never mind that it was a dangerous practice. Gryffindor, remember?
Anyway, the lion!lady was excited for a join lesson...and was hoping that she could actually participate in the magic for the day. It was NOT fun having to sit out on the sidelines.
Oh, goddess, and the quote written out on the chalkboard... This wasn't going to be a lesson that got her fired up, was it? Bless her head. "Professor Stewart......Professor Newton." Both subjects she enjoyed. And one's mostly without magic. So, she was excited.
This was someone Kay knew who always looked forward to lessons especially Muggle Studies. The woman was no less pleased to see her. “Hello, Ms Phillips!’’
SPOILER!!: Stasya! <3
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The idea of a joint lesson definitely seemed interesting to Stasya, especially since she was pretty certain after things like the pet party that the professors were friends. Plus, she was curious how Muggle studies was going to fit into History of Magic. Unless they were going to be talking about persecution, which definitely wasn’t on her top ten list of favorite subjects. But, she definitely liked both Professor Stewart and Professor Newton, so she had walked up to the History of Magic classroom with a smile on her face. Besides, there was lots to be happy about so she didn’t see why she should pretend not to be happy. At least, she didn’t think so until she’d gotten to the classroom and saw what was written on the board. That definitely sounded like a persecution thing.
“G’morning Professor Newton, g’morning Professor Stewart,” she said, still giving both professors a grin even though she was way more hesitant about if she was going to like this lesson. Still, she’d walked further into the classroom, claiming the seat right next to Liv even though she’d also given Noelle, Zoryn and even Kyle over by the window waves. Was he actually asleep?
“Hi Liv,” she said a little bit quieter than she’d greeted the professors. Plus, she got a big grin before the twelve-year-old had gone back to eyeing the words on the board.
The grin was returned. “Good morning, Ms Dalgaard-Volkova!’’ I trust that you’re well.’’ That grin had said it all, actually, and she felt Stasya’s had been genuine.
SPOILER!!: Katherine! <3
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Combined classes could be fun but they also sometimes mixed boring and slightly less boring subjects together. Or boring and interesting, which diluted the interesting... so. Katy was here and hoping for the best, but she was a realist. She might regret not taking some Pepper-Up before coming to class today.
"Good day, Professor and Professor." And the windows were open and it was a beeeeeeautiful day. Katy picked a chair right in the front and waved merrily at the professors. And then she saw the message on the board. Oh, mood killer. Mood killer right there. Magic is might was all kinds of loaded.
“Good day, Ms Toussaint! Go right ahead to find a seat.’’ They would be getting started soon-ish anyway.
SPOILER!!: Shay! <3
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A joint class. Well at least putting History of Magic and Muggle Studies together seemed like a good combination. Shayla reached the classroom and was greeted right away. "Hello Professor Stewart", she said cheerfully. Then noticing her other co-teacher, Shay acknowledged her too. "Hello Professor Newton", she added with a smile.
With her eye on the nearest empty seat, Shay headed toward it. On the way she gave a wave to her Gryffindor housemate. "Hey Ava". Shay sat down in her seat and retrieved her needed supplies from her book bag. Pen, notebook, textbooks. Check, check and check. Then she finally turned to look at the board. "MAGIC IS MIGHT. Or is it? With a puzzled look, she tried to figure out what the statement meant. How would this relate to their lesson? She guessed she would have the answer soon.
This was someone who was almost always prompt to her lessons. “Hello, Ms Morrison!’’
SPOILER!!: Etta! <3
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A joint lesson would be interesting, to say the least. Etta made her way to the classroom, feeling unusually happy and cheerful. It was just one of those days. And she was early to class too, which was a relief. A small smile on her face, she entered the room and greeted the professors first as her smile widened to a grin. "Hello, professors. Hope you're both doing well today."
She made her way to an empty seat near the middle of the classroom and sat down, noticing the words written on the board. Magic is might. Her smile faded as she tried to figure out what they'd actually be learning today. Uh.
“Good day, Ms Kramer! Oh, I’m quite well! And you?’’ Kay was always genuinely concerned about the well being of her kiddos.
SPOILER!!: Ava! <3
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Ava didn't mind muggle studies, but history of magic?
Yawn.
Why on earth these two subjects collaborated today?
She didn't history of magic AT ALL. Mostly on this class the Gryffindor would end up doing something to distract herself or just skipped it. She wanted to skip it but muggle studies was such a fun class and not attending it was kind of big miss (sort of). Nevertheless, Ava decided to attend it and hopefully she would not fall asleep in this clasroom. Hence why she had a big tumbler of coffee on her hand. "Professors," She slightly greeted both of them and decided to take a seat at the corner.
"Uh, hi Shay." She greeted her fellow lioness and back to sipping the caffeine liquid. Errrrrr... this was too bitter.
“Hello, Ms Burton!'' She peered curiously at the tumbler. “Coffee?’’ Kay could smell the aroma now and was reminded of a certain former CoMC professor.
SPOILER!!: Kirk! <3
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History of Magic, check. Muggle Studies, check. Putting together, well it was seemingly obvious on what the topic would be.. But History itself was difficult to predict on which part they would be going over, it was a mystery at this point to Kirk. He arrived in the classroom, not tired for one, but not enthusiastic, just feeling.. Kirky. If that could be a word, "Heylo Professor Stewart." He greeted first as she was by the door before seeing the History teacher, "Heylo Professor Newton."
Now Kirk could choose a spot to sit. Somewhere near the window, he felt like letting the sun hit him as he stared at the board. MAGIC IS MIGHT. Or is it? He thought about his girlfriend making it in today.. It felt weird not being around Mel lately with her being sick, but he didn't mind getting her homework for her again incase today was no exception. He sighed lightly before turning to the nearest familiar face, ah, Etta. It had been a while since they spoke, "What do you think they'll have us do today?" There were a number of possibilities after all.
Kirk too got a broad smile. “Hello, Mr Forsfelle. Find yourself a seat, we’ll be getting started in a few minutes.’’
SPOILER!!: Mel! <3
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The potions had finally worked…that, and maybe it was more getting a potion from Healer Reed? Mel hadn’t had the time to really tell everyone she was going to be there but here she was. Practically RUNNING to the joint History of Magic and Muggle studies lesson…did it matter if she had to talk a lot?
Her voice well…it wasn’t really BACK but she’d gotten the okay to go to class. That was good…she wanted to do well for Gryffindor…and well for OWLs really. Sure, she liked that Kirk and Tenacius had been providing her with notes and homework but really…really, she wanted to be a part of it. To learn, to be there in the classroom interacting with everyone.
Mel looked up at the Professors and smiled – beamed really. Did she need a sign to say I’m not contagious – I just lost my voice because apparently that was all that had happened…she’d had one of those teeeeeeerrrible spring colds. Spring colds were the worst kind of colds they always seemed to hit her much stronger than any other cold ever…and this one, this one had hit her HARD to the point where she had just hidden out in the common room with cups upon cups of tea.
”Hey Kirk” she practically whispered, then turning to look at Etta Mel just grinned. Etta was cool – really, hello she was obviously cool she was Owlie’s bestie and Owlie was amaaaaazing. ”Hey Etta!” Mel grinned and looked around for other familiar faces. Everytime her eyes flicked to someone she knew she’d give them a small smile hello. Where was Lacy?
That nickname would stick forever…yep, he would never live that boat-party-massacre down…sure it wasn’t a massacre but it was sooooooooooo awkward – Hitchcock level awkward. ”Hello Professor Stewart, Professor Newton” she smiled brightly at the two of them her voice was low and timid as she spoke. Glancing over to Kirk she smiled ”I got the okay to go to classes – the rest helped…thanks for giving me notes and homework for classes” she smiled at him happily…right had she told him she was coming today? Probably not.
Seeing Melbourne approach, Kay immediately gathered that she was feeling better. “Hello, Ms Sorin- Ward. I’m really pleased to hear that.’’ It was so sweet of Mel to thank them like that. “You’re quite welcome. Now, I hope you won’t get sick again.’’ Blue eyes twinkled with humour.
SPOILER!!: Rula! <3
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Muggle Studies was a subject Rula found really interesting - even if she wasn't the greatest at it - but History of Magic...well, it wasn't her least favorite subject, at least. So this joint lesson would still be interesting probably!
"Hi, Professor Stewart and Professor Newton!" she greeted them with a bright smile, also pleased to note the open windows. It was finally getting warmer out there, so letting in the fresh air was definitely welcome.
As she took a seat near a window, she finally noticed the writing on the board. Hmmm, well that was a good clue about what their lesson was going to be about today. Definitely interesting.
Kay looked to her watch. Just a few more minutes and Rose would get started. She directed her attention back to the corridor. “Ah, hello, Ms Botros!’’
SPOILER!!: Skylar! <3
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If you ask Skylar, they should have done a joint lesson with one of the subjects that took place in the towers. And had the lesson take place down on the first floor, because then she for once wouldn't have to walk so far. She was rather intrigued though as to how History of Magic and Muggle Studies could be combined and it was so lucky that she liked Professor Newton's man person, because that reflected on her liking and trusting Newton. Even if Newton's lesson were usually drama induced. K Stewart, she was indifferent about, but her lessons were usually interesting.
Magic is might. The fourth year took note of the board upon entering the classroom. Well, if that wasn't a statement that would produce conflict? So much for hoping for a drama-free lesson. "Hello Professor Newton. Professor Stewart." She greeted, taking a seat near the back. She wanted a full view of the classroom, should drama unfold.
“Hello, Ms Diggory.’’ She too got a smile. By now, Kay hadn’t even bother to stop smiling. There were more kiddos behind Skylar. She ushered the girl to go find a seat.
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This would be interesting. Emmeline sometimes liked both of these subjects, depending on what each particular lesson was about. They could be super boring or super interesting or somewhere in the middle. She was learning all about grey areas, uh huh. But the truth was that she would have come to this lesson even if it was on the history of flobberworms in the muggle word, 'cause Professor Stewart was teaching it. Since the other Professor Stewart had become her guardian a couple weeks ago, she figured she should support anyone in her new family. Plus, Professor Newton was super nice too.
"Hiii professors," she chirped as she passed them. Loads of people got smiles and waves, especially Mel, Zoryn, Miss Noelle, Miss Ava, and allll the other people she knew. Except Stasya and Miss Olivia 'cause she slid into the seat on Stasya's free side and shot both girls a grin. She was about to say hi when the sentence on the board snagged her attention and she shuddered. She was not a fan of the whole "magic is might" thing, nope. She really hoped nobody else was either, 'cause it sounded like the dumb "wizards are better than muggles" idea and that was scary.
This adorable kiddo was someone she had grown to be fond of over the entire school year. It was needless to say Kay was pleased to see her. “Hello, Ms Sparkes!’’ Yes, she did call her by her first name but that was only when they were spending time together. At present, they were just student and Professor.
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Another joint Muggle Studies and History of Magic class? Hmm, that was rather interesting. And it was a good thing that it was being held at the History of Magic classroom, which was situated on the first floor. It was nearer the common room so Vivian was taking this opportunity to drag herself into class since there weren't much stairs involved.
Skipping into the classroom, Vivian poked her head inside and beamed at the Muggle Studies professor who was at the door. "Good day, Professor Stewart!" The blonde greeted the woman, then her eyes drifted over to the other professor. She, too, received a wide grin from the Slytherin. "Good day as well, Professor Newton!" Yup, she was in rather good spirits today. Wasn't this Fairfield child always in a bright mood?
Then she went over to flop on the seat beside Skylar. Also, aaahhhhh wasn't it cool today? Fresh air everywhere!
Vivian was excited and hyper it seemed. Kay loved her energy. “Good day, Ms Fairfield! Pull up a seat, we’ll be starting soon.’’
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Derf was having an IT'S ABOUT TIME moment with this whole joint lesson thing. There had been loads of overlap or like...the POTENTIAL for it but you know. He was running just a little late and came skidding to a stop in the classroom after his wind spring down the corridor. "H-H-Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii...profes-s-sooooors," he huffed and puffed while using the sleeve of his robe to wipe his brown clean. Bright blues went to the board and read the words there. Well, that kinda left little to the imagination, yeah? Domination of muggles by the wizarding world? No thanks.
Chipper mood turned somber by the potential discussion ahead, Derf slipped into the nearest seat and hugged his enchanted suitcase to himself - chin resting on the handle - with an uncomfortable pout on his face.
Was there seriously ANYONE in this room who...believed in the ideal that that expression represented?
“We should get started soon, Rose,’’ Kay said quietly to Rose just as Derf came to a halt in the room. Poor dear. He had obviously ran all the way to the classroom. “Hello, Mr Ashburry- Hawthorne! You’re just in time.’’
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"Hello Professors," Junia Botros greeted as she entered the classroom and gave her usual curtsy. The good weather had everything to do with her good mood and the smile she wore was genuine as she moved to find a seat.
Ru. The brunette spotted her older sister almost immediately in the crowded room and headed right for her. She was graduating soon, Rula was. On to bigger and better things and LEAVING Junia here to live up to the legacy the HEAD GIRL had left behind. NO PRESSURE or anything right?
Merlin.
"Hi." She wasn't going to bother the older girl or anything, she just wanted to be close while she still COULD be. There was something comforting about having your big sis around, after all. Particularly when you were going to be discussing such a dark part of history...
Junia had such a nice habit. It was the curtsy that Kay was referring to. She gave her signature smile in return. “Hello, Ms Botros. You too are just in time.’’
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Kay was the one to carefully shut the class’s door once she was sure the corridor was clear. As Rose got started, she casually leaned against the desk. Her time would come soon enough to contribute to the lesson. As it was, she listened to her best friend spoke then waited for the reactions of the students.
It came to her as no surprise that is was Kitty who spoke first and who had the most to say. Kay knew a lot about her and how fond she was of muggles. Hence, it was understandable that she put forth so much information. The others too, had their bit to say and it made her proud as always to see just how much they knew.
Now it was her time to move the lesson along. The woman moved from the desk to the front of the class. “Thank you, Rose. Now, I’m very pleased to see just how much you all know about the Statute. It is a very crucial part of our world. However, over the course of the years, there have been witches and wizards who have opposed this Statue. None has been more prominent than Carlotta Pinkstone.’’ And here, Kay couldn’t help but wonder if the name Kitty Valentine would join Carlotta’s and the others. “Has any of you come across her name? Does anyone know anything about her?’’ Surely a few of them must. Carlotta was featured on the back of Chocolate Frog cards after all.
“For those of you who are not familiar with Carlotta, can you tell us what are your opinions on the Statute. Should we keep to ourselves? Should we reveal ourselves? Kindly remember to keep your responses respectable; do not attack anyone for their opinions.’’ This was a tricky topic, she knew and this is why she and Rose would be vigilant to the answers that would be pouring in.
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Zoryn was already bored. Though, when she thought a debate was about to break out her head did perk up JUST A BIT. But OF COURSE the Professors had to ruin any chance of good entertainment. Zoryn was highly disappointed. So she sat and stared off into space for a little bit.
She did snap back into reality when a new question was posed, but it wasn't actually until after the question was posed when she came back to reality. So uh, what was the question again?
Something about the statute, she was sure.
Were they seriously still talking about this?
Also, when were they gonna talk about how the two subjects were actually related? 'Cause History of Magic and Muggle Studies were definitely two very unrelated things.
Though.... Maybe she would've known why if she had been paying attention? Naaaaaaaaaah.
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Sure, Kirk recognised the name from one of his batches of chocolate frogs. He couldn't remember all the details though on the back... Until the Professor mentioned the Statues. It peeked a bit of flashback on some of the card's details in his head now.
"She challenged the Statute, that I know. I can't imagine throwing spells everywhere without upsetting enough people who couldn't do it like her." Seemed unfair either way whatever the solution. So what else could he say without spinning in circles? He looked thoughtful at some ideas in his head again.
Kitty perked up. So they were going to discuss repealing the statute after all? Perfect! She raised her hand.
"Carlotta Pinkstone was the most famous advocate for repealing the Statue of Secrecy. She was born in 1922 and attended Hogwarts when Professor Dippett was headmaster. She was imprisoned many times for her activism, but this never dampened her strong will and passion for justice. Someday I hope to continue where she left off. She is one of my heroes."
Here she stopped to take a break for air. Whew! Then she went on to answer the second question:
"The Statute was needed a long time ago, but now I believe it is just a vehicle of oppression, both for us and for Muggles. It is oppressive to us because it forces us to suppress our true selves and it punishes us for being open with our neighbors. It is oppressive to Muggles because it keeps them in the dark and prevents them from getting the best medical cures available, since we can't use magic to help them. Of course there are some bad Muggles and some bad wizards, but why should all of us have to suffer because of them? If we are honest with ourselves, then we would know that teaching that Muggles are to be feared will only lead to more intolerance."
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Mel smiled up at Professor Newton as she greeted her. ”Thank you Professor Newton! I’m glad to be here” she smiled brightly at the history of magic Professor. The question that came up made Mel wince – she knew, knew that this could start issues. It always seemed to.
The way that Professor Newton said she didn’t want a heated debate just made Melbourne sigh. Thank merlin she grinned to herself as she listened to everyone’s insightful ideas. Like Dora Mel didn’t need to speak or to bring up anything about the utter mess that this class could become. Still when Professor Newton began to speak she immediately responded not by speaking but by note taking.
It was when Kirk greeted her that Mel couldn’t help but beam at him. Glancing over at Kirk she just raised an eyebrow as he started doodling and grinned…she’d have to pester him about seeing his sketches and doodles later. He was always to good at them. Professor Stewart got a GIANT grin when she welcomed her back to the class. ”I hope so too Professor, and I doubt that I will. I’ve been making sure to get regular sleep” she explained with a grin…and that was when she heard the question.
Raising her hand the Gryffindor girl just grinned brightly. ”Miss Pinkstone, if I do remember was born around 1922 and is noted as being an activist that campaigned for the lifting of the statute of secrecy” she grinned and sent a look over to Kitty wondering if she would speak up herself.
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As soon as Professor Newton told them not to be debating and stuff, Emmeline made a "zipping her lips" motion and then flashed the history professor an apologetic smile. She thought Miss Ravenclaw Prefect was wrong about some things, but she didn't want to hurt the older girl's feelings or anything. She noticed Miss Olivia's nod and grinned at her too.
All of her smiles faded as soon as Derf started talking. His story about the crups was super, way too sad for the first year. She couldn't help thinking of Sirius, all grown up and sneaking out into a nearby Muggle area and getting caught by the vicious dog catchers and--
Emmeline gulped. She knew that if Professor Wayland let her adopt Sirius, it would be up to her to make sure that he was never, ever around Muggles. Crups couldn't help hating Muggles, after all. She wasn't sure why Muggles had dog catchers anyway, but she couldn't really blame them for picking up what they thought were mean dogs either. It was a super, super sad situation all around, mhm. She hadn't thought about the statute protecting creatures before, but now that she thought about it, of course it did. Even some wizards were scared of some magical creatures, so of course they had to keep them away from Muggles. To keep the creatures AND Muggles safe, mhm.
Thinking about crups and stuff had caused the first year to pretty much zone out through the rest of Professor Newton's talking. It was a biiiig effort to zone back in when Professor Stewart started her talking. She didn't know who Carlotta Pinkstone was, but she had a pretty name. Maybe Miss Ravenclaw Prefect looked up to her or something? Emmeline liked some Great Witches and Wizards from the past too. She didn't know anything about the Pinkstone lady, and she'd already told her opinion about the statute earlier, but she raised her hand anyway 'cause she wanted to see what Professor Stewart thought: "I think the statute thingy needs to stay in place to keep everybody safer from each other and creatures too and stuff. But but, Miss Ravenclaw Prefect is right and we should try to help Muggles too." Muggles were people too, and Emmeline felt bad for them 'cause they hadn't been born with magic for some reason. She wondered why only SOME people were born with magic, and scribbled the question down in her notes. She'd ask Professor Stewart after the lesson maybe.
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Wait, wait, hadn't Professor Newton told them to NOT talk about opinions on whether they should be repealing the statute or not? And now Professor Stewart was asking for their opinions??? Well she was asking about Carlotta Pinkstone, but also for their opinions. And this was just quite the contradictory lesson thus far, which on some level made sense since muggles versus wizardkind was like a walking contradiction.
Of course, Kitty would perk up again at the chance to offer her very opinionated side to why the statute should be repealed. And if she had to guess, Carlotta was probably the older girl's idol. She could see the headlines now: "Kitty Valentine: the NEW Pinkstone" Or maybe, "A new activist in sight: Kitty Valentine". Whatever. It wasn't her life and as long as the Prefect didn't try to jeopardize anything in her life, she could care less what she got her hands into.
She should probably say something, yes?
Not having anything to add about Carlotta, Skylar chose to add her opinions, "I think that while society has come a long way in the last four hundred years, there are still a lot of prejudiced folk out there. On both sides, muggles and magical folk. And before we can even consider repeals of statutes, or of revealing our true selves, there needs to be greater education and compassion." Yes, some might argue that you won't get education without proof, but ... "Sharing our secret means that muggles would want to know everything. And I don't think as a wizarding community we should have to reveal everything because we would be putting our own lives in danger. Some things are better left in the dark. We could still help muggles with medicinal cures, without telling them how to do it, I'm not saying to let muggles suffer... but we just don't have to spill the secrets. We can integrate, without revealing. There's no reason to tell them the how."
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Etta neatly noted down what was being said, careful not to miss anything. She'd need all of the study material for OWLs after all.. OWLs. They were just around the corner but she felt like she wasn't prepared at all. And the panic was starting again. She took deep breaths and concentrated on what was being discussed in class, not wanting to stress about exams at the moment. Wrong time. Okay.. so what was the question again? Right. Carlotta Pinkstone. She raised a hand to answer.
"From what I've read, she was very keen on integrating the magical and muggle communities as well.. right? And I personally think the Statute is needed.. or necessary to maintain peace and stability between both the communities because completely mixing them might.. result in conflict or a difference of opinion."
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Nicholas certainly had an opinion on the question posed, but the last bit of the professor's statement caught his ear. Respect others' opinions? Honestly, HOW was he supposed to do that while giving his own unfiltered one?
It was impossible. He'd have to sit this out.
So, the Hufflepuff listened in silence to his classmates' answers and judged everybody who was thinking WRONG.
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As her classmates gave their answers and Professor Newton discussed the topic, Shay took notes. She tried her best to keep up with the conversation, writing down the key points as they went along. Then it was Professor Stewart's turn to tie in the Muggle Studies part of things. And a two part question was on the floor. The first one was pretty straightforward. The second one, well that was a matter of opinion and that was something that her classmates had no shortage of.
Shay raised her hand and when she was called on, she added her two cents to the conversation. "Carlotta Pinkstone spent some time in Azkaban because she repeatedly did magic in front of muggles. She believed that it was the right thing to do. Whether you agree with her or not, I guess you have to admire her for standing up for what she believed." Shay did not necessarily agree with the woman, but she could see where she was coming from........which led to her next answer.
"As for the Statute........I think in a perfect world, it would be great if we could repeal it. Wizards and muggles living together in harmony." Shay, however, was not so naive as to believe that this was possible in today's world. When had she become so jaded? "Outside of Hogwarts, I live in the muggle world and right now, I don't see that happening. Some muggles today aren't completely accepting of muggles of other races, religions and cultures. How can we think that they will be accepting of us? I also think that some wizards aren't quite ready to accept muggles either. Someday maybe the statute won't be necessary, but today? I don't think that's the case." Someday.
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Clause 73, right. That was a number that he actually remembered. Then again it was easier to remember things when it involved creatures. Selective memory and what not. Jotting down just a few notes since nothing they were discussing was reaaaaaally anything not found in pages in his textbook, Derf looked up when Professor Stewart spoke.
Oh boy...here we go again...
Derf was tempted to just stick his fingers in his ear and hum loudly to ignore the arguing that was likely to come like last time. Huh, they had been talking about the Statute a lot...hadn't they? Hmmm...
As for Carlotta Pinkstone...well...Derf had three chocolate frog cards of her in his collection and he had read over the information several times but nothing really stuck. No offense to the woman or anything, she just wasn't someone who his mind thought particularly memorable. "She went to Hogwarts too," he offered lamely. There. Fact shared.
As for his opinion on the whole Statute...well...if it helped keep creatures safe he was rather content. "I think...it's kinda scary how his-storically those that have wanted to repeal it have been kinda...extreme...acted extremely, you know?" Like the lady they were talking about. She ended up in Azkaban for Newt's sake! "Like...The Cult of Walpurgis...Grindelwald...dunno...it kinda paints a not so good image of what our world would be like if it were gone..."
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This lesson started to get boring, really. Maybe because she just had no idea what they were talking about, huh. Ava had ever heard about Carlotta Pinkperson or whatever her last name was, but it's just from the chocolate frog card. Nothing else. And also, she didn't really want to give an opinion about the statute because... 1) This was one of those moments where Ava would rather to kept her mouth shut to avoid saying something that clearly, she didn't understand and 2) She just didn't want to. Either Ava didn't have interest in History stuffs because she failed her OWL or she failed her OWL because she didn't have interest in History at all.
Luckily that she chose to sit on the corner so... The Gryffindor rested her head on the desk and avoided the discussion. Lalalalala~ Just keep swimming discussing and don't mind her at all.
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The Statute was very important to Viv. Being Muggle-born, she could never perform magic unless in the case of an emergency. She raised her hand and said "There was Harry Potter when he saved his cousin Dudley against those ghastly Dementors! Also, Carlotta campaigned for the Ministry to lift up the Statute. I think the Statue is important. I am a Muggle-born and magic should not be presented in front of muggles."
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So she had a good guess but wasn’t going to get a yes or no confirmation on what the class had to deal with, at least from Newton out of the two professors. Nope…Professor Stewart seemed to agree. Fine by Cassie, she and the rest of the students in today’s class would find out soon enough. And soon enough the lesson was begin with brief attention brought to the three words on the board before Professor Newton Asked about the Statute of Secrecy. Right off the bat, Kitty gave a pretty thorough explanation concerning the legislation that played such an everyday yet important part in the wizarding world. Though the prefect went further, stating how she felt the Statute should be repealed.
Uh oh…Cass thought as a first year Gryffindor spoke up in defense. She knew from her father’s stories how topics like this could become quite heated. Thankfully Newton stepped in to try and keep it a calm discussion which seemed to work well enough. There was still plenty else to speak of on the matter though the Ravenclaw wasn’t quite sure what she could add. Another young Gryffindor’s, Derfael if she caught it correctly, words caught her attention however.
Used to head Accidents and Catastrophe? Did he work with her father?
Right…she needed to just pay attention to what was being said, catching anything she wasn’t readily aware of. Both known and unknown being caught and written into her notes. History of her world and all. The mention of Deatheaters brought Cass back to her original thoughts on a connection to the war or wars with Voldemort. When the debate on the Statute was reopened, the fifth year braced herself. Kitty remained adamant and a few others followed. However there was a decent amount that thought that while it would be great if it could be repealed , it wasn’t ideal.
And then there was Derfael again…mentioning the Cult of Walpurgis!
She remembered that, reading from something she might not have supposed to be privy too from her father’s past. The fight that ended just before she herself had been born. “Pinkstone favored appealing the Statute of Secrecy. I feel at the most, perhaps amendments might be made to adjust certain strictures.” Like the ones pertaining to relationships and muggleborn families.
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The Ravenclaw prefect got some serious eye-rolling, but Katy had learned her lesson. In this very classroom, actually. Besides, other people were allowed to share their opinions, no matter how wrong, and they were allowed to have heroes who were nothing more than rabblerousers, if they couldn't find someone respectable to admire.
So. Katy raised her hand. "Professor...s. Carlotta Pinkstone chose to oppose the Statute by actively breaking it, and she was imprisoned several times for her efforts. She sort of cared more about her agenda than about who she hurt, since the Muggles who witnessed her lawbreaking had to be bespelled to lose that memory. Who knows what else they lost? It was pretty selfish of her." The one thing she knew about a cause was that it was never more important than the people stepped over along the way. And this was from a particularly self-involved Toussaint.
As for the Statute... "And I agree with Ms. Morrison. In a perfect world, we wouldn't have to protect ourselves from Muggles. Everyone's better nature would prevail. In practice, though, no one's better nature is prevailing. We still require society that is separate and hidden from those who would persecute and subjugate us for our differences."
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Zoryn was already bored. Though, when she thought a debate was about to break out her head did perk up JUST A BIT. But OF COURSE the Professors had to ruin any chance of good entertainment. Zoryn was highly disappointed. So she sat and stared off into space for a little bit.
She did snap back into reality when a new question was posed, but it wasn't actually until after the question was posed when she came back to reality. So uh, what was the question again?
Something about the statute, she was sure.
Were they seriously still talking about this?
Also, when were they gonna talk about how the two subjects were actually related? 'Cause History of Magic and Muggle Studies were definitely two very unrelated things.
Though.... Maybe she would've known why if she had been paying attention? Naaaaaaaaaah.
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Nicholas certainly had an opinion on the question posed, but the last bit of the professor's statement caught his ear. Respect others' opinions? Honestly, HOW was he supposed to do that while giving his own unfiltered one?
It was impossible. He'd have to sit this out.
So, the Hufflepuff listened in silence to his classmates' answers and judged everybody who was thinking WRONG.
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Nicholas certainly had an opinion on the question posed, but the last bit of the professor's statement caught his ear. Respect others' opinions? Honestly, HOW was he supposed to do that while giving his own unfiltered one?
It was impossible. He'd have to sit this out.
So, the Hufflepuff listened in silence to his classmates' answers and judged everybody who was thinking WRONG.
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This lesson started to get boring, really. Maybe because she just had no idea what they were talking about, huh. Ava had ever heard about Carlotta Pinkperson or whatever her last name was, but it's just from the chocolate frog card. Nothing else. And also, she didn't really want to give an opinion about the statute because... 1) This was one of those moments where Ava would rather to kept her mouth shut to avoid saying something that clearly, she didn't understand and 2) She just didn't want to. Either Ava didn't have interest in History stuffs because she failed her OWL or she failed her OWL because she didn't have interest in History at all.
Luckily that she chose to sit on the corner so... The Gryffindor rested her head on the desk and avoided the discussion. Lalalalala~ Just keep swimming discussing and don't mind her at all.
Based on previous lesson trends, Kay had made it her priority today to keep an eye on Zoryn. She was not surprised to see the Gryffindor becoming spaced out as time went along. “Ms Spinnet. If you would please pay attention? You could miss vital information for your own knowledge not to mention exams.’’
Yes, she also did notice the other silent ones. Not expecting them to answer every single question posed, she did expect them to make careful notes.
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Sure, Kirk recognised the name from one of his batches of chocolate frogs. He couldn't remember all the details though on the back... Until the Professor mentioned the Statues. It peeked a bit of flashback on some of the card's details in his head now.
"She challenged the Statute, that I know. I can't imagine throwing spells everywhere without upsetting enough people who couldn't do it like her." Seemed unfair either way whatever the solution. So what else could he say without spinning in circles? He looked thoughtful at some ideas in his head again.
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Kitty perked up. So they were going to discuss repealing the statute after all? Perfect! She raised her hand.
"Carlotta Pinkstone was the most famous advocate for repealing the Statue of Secrecy. She was born in 1922 and attended Hogwarts when Professor Dippett was headmaster. She was imprisoned many times for her activism, but this never dampened her strong will and passion for justice. Someday I hope to continue where she left off. She is one of my heroes."
Here she stopped to take a break for air. Whew! Then she went on to answer the second question:
"The Statute was needed a long time ago, but now I believe it is just a vehicle of oppression, both for us and for Muggles. It is oppressive to us because it forces us to suppress our true selves and it punishes us for being open with our neighbors. It is oppressive to Muggles because it keeps them in the dark and prevents them from getting the best medical cures available, since we can't use magic to help them. Of course there are some bad Muggles and some bad wizards, but why should all of us have to suffer because of them? If we are honest with ourselves, then we would know that teaching that Muggles are to be feared will only lead to more intolerance."
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Mel smiled up at Professor Newton as she greeted her. ”Thank you Professor Newton! I’m glad to be here” she smiled brightly at the history of magic Professor. The question that came up made Mel wince – she knew, knew that this could start issues. It always seemed to.
The way that Professor Newton said she didn’t want a heated debate just made Melbourne sigh. Thank merlin she grinned to herself as she listened to everyone’s insightful ideas. Like Dora Mel didn’t need to speak or to bring up anything about the utter mess that this class could become. Still when Professor Newton began to speak she immediately responded not by speaking but by note taking.
It was when Kirk greeted her that Mel couldn’t help but beam at him. Glancing over at Kirk she just raised an eyebrow as he started doodling and grinned…she’d have to pester him about seeing his sketches and doodles later. He was always to good at them. Professor Stewart got a GIANT grin when she welcomed her back to the class. ”I hope so too Professor, and I doubt that I will. I’ve been making sure to get regular sleep” she explained with a grin…and that was when she heard the question.
Raising her hand the Gryffindor girl just grinned brightly. ”Miss Pinkstone, if I do remember was born around 1922 and is noted as being an activist that campaigned for the lifting of the statute of secrecy” she grinned and sent a look over to Kitty wondering if she would speak up herself.
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Etta neatly noted down what was being said, careful not to miss anything. She'd need all of the study material for OWLs after all.. OWLs. They were just around the corner but she felt like she wasn't prepared at all. And the panic was starting again. She took deep breaths and concentrated on what was being discussed in class, not wanting to stress about exams at the moment. Wrong time. Okay.. so what was the question again? Right. Carlotta Pinkstone. She raised a hand to answer.
"From what I've read, she was very keen on integrating the magical and muggle communities as well.. right? And I personally think the Statute is needed.. or necessary to maintain peace and stability between both the communities because completely mixing them might.. result in conflict or a difference of opinion."
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Originally Posted by Daydreamer11
As her classmates gave their answers and Professor Newton discussed the topic, Shay took notes. She tried her best to keep up with the conversation, writing down the key points as they went along. Then it was Professor Stewart's turn to tie in the Muggle Studies part of things. And a two part question was on the floor. The first one was pretty straightforward. The second one, well that was a matter of opinion and that was something that her classmates had no shortage of.
Shay raised her hand and when she was called on, she added her two cents to the conversation. "Carlotta Pinkstone spent some time in Azkaban because she repeatedly did magic in front of muggles. She believed that it was the right thing to do. Whether you agree with her or not, I guess you have to admire her for standing up for what she believed." Shay did not necessarily agree with the woman, but she could see where she was coming from........which led to her next answer.
"As for the Statute........I think in a perfect world, it would be great if we could repeal it. Wizards and muggles living together in harmony." Shay, however, was not so naive as to believe that this was possible in today's world. When had she become so jaded? "Outside of Hogwarts, I live in the muggle world and right now, I don't see that happening. Some muggles today aren't completely accepting of muggles of other races, religions and cultures. How can we think that they will be accepting of us? I also think that some wizards aren't quite ready to accept muggles either. Someday maybe the statute won't be necessary, but today? I don't think that's the case." Someday.
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Originally Posted by sweetpinkpixie
Clause 73, right. That was a number that he actually remembered. Then again it was easier to remember things when it involved creatures. Selective memory and what not. Jotting down just a few notes since nothing they were discussing was reaaaaaally anything not found in pages in his textbook, Derf looked up when Professor Stewart spoke.
Oh boy...here we go again...
Derf was tempted to just stick his fingers in his ear and hum loudly to ignore the arguing that was likely to come like last time. Huh, they had been talking about the Statute a lot...hadn't they? Hmmm...
As for Carlotta Pinkstone...well...Derf had three chocolate frog cards of her in his collection and he had read over the information several times but nothing really stuck. No offense to the woman or anything, she just wasn't someone who his mind thought particularly memorable. "She went to Hogwarts too," he offered lamely. There. Fact shared.
As for his opinion on the whole Statute...well...if it helped keep creatures safe he was rather content. "I think...it's kinda scary how his-storically those that have wanted to repeal it have been kinda...extreme...acted extremely, you know?" Like the lady they were talking about. She ended up in Azkaban for Newt's sake! "Like...The Cult of Walpurgis...Grindelwald...dunno...it kinda paints a not so good image of what our world would be like if it were gone..."
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Originally Posted by Holmesian Feline
So she had a good guess but wasn’t going to get a yes or no confirmation on what the class had to deal with, at least from Newton out of the two professors. Nope…Professor Stewart seemed to agree. Fine by Cassie, she and the rest of the students in today’s class would find out soon enough. And soon enough the lesson was begin with brief attention brought to the three words on the board before Professor Newton Asked about the Statute of Secrecy. Right off the bat, Kitty gave a pretty thorough explanation concerning the legislation that played such an everyday yet important part in the wizarding world. Though the prefect went further, stating how she felt the Statute should be repealed.
Uh oh…Cass thought as a first year Gryffindor spoke up in defense. She knew from her father’s stories how topics like this could become quite heated. Thankfully Newton stepped in to try and keep it a calm discussion which seemed to work well enough. There was still plenty else to speak of on the matter though the Ravenclaw wasn’t quite sure what she could add. Another young Gryffindor’s, Derfael if she caught it correctly, words caught her attention however.
Used to head Accidents and Catastrophe? Did he work with her father?
Right…she needed to just pay attention to what was being said, catching anything she wasn’t readily aware of. Both known and unknown being caught and written into her notes. History of her world and all. The mention of Deatheaters brought Cass back to her original thoughts on a connection to the war or wars with Voldemort. When the debate on the Statute was reopened, the fifth year braced herself. Kitty remained adamant and a few others followed. However there was a decent amount that thought that while it would be great if it could be repealed , it wasn’t ideal.
And then there was Derfael again…mentioning the Cult of Walpurgis!
She remembered that, reading from something she might not have supposed to be privy too from her father’s past. The fight that ended just before she herself had been born. “Pinkstone favored appealing the Statute of Secrecy. I feel at the most, perhaps amendments might be made to adjust certain strictures.” Like the ones pertaining to relationships and muggleborn families.
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Originally Posted by Cassirin
The Ravenclaw prefect got some serious eye-rolling, but Katy had learned her lesson. In this very classroom, actually. Besides, other people were allowed to share their opinions, no matter how wrong, and they were allowed to have heroes who were nothing more than rabblerousers, if they couldn't find someone respectable to admire.
So. Katy raised her hand. "Professor...s. Carlotta Pinkstone chose to oppose the Statute by actively breaking it, and she was imprisoned several times for her efforts. She sort of cared more about her agenda than about who she hurt, since the Muggles who witnessed her lawbreaking had to be bespelled to lose that memory. Who knows what else they lost? It was pretty selfish of her." The one thing she knew about a cause was that it was never more important than the people stepped over along the way. And this was from a particularly self-involved Toussaint.
As for the Statute... "And I agree with Ms. Morrison. In a perfect world, we wouldn't have to protect ourselves from Muggles. Everyone's better nature would prevail. In practice, though, no one's better nature is prevailing. We still require society that is separate and hidden from those who would persecute and subjugate us for our differences."
“Excellent! You are all correct. Carlotta was indeed born in 1922. She was a rather powerful witch, capable of wandless magic. She would purposely use magic in public and in the presence of muggles. This lead her to be convicted and sentenced to time in Azkaban multiple times.’’
Kay moved back to Rose’s desk where she picked up a card. It was just not any card but one displaying Carlotta. She held it up for the class to catch a glimpse. “I am certain many of you have seen Carlotta’s card but in case you haven’t… as you can see, she’s pictured with her hands in shackles while still doing magic.’’ Wandless magic, mnd you.
SPOILER!!: About Carlotta! <3
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Originally Posted by Goblinfrog
Kitty perked up. So they were going to discuss repealing the statute after all? Perfect! She raised her hand.
"Carlotta Pinkstone was the most famous advocate for repealing the Statue of Secrecy. She was born in 1922 and attended Hogwarts when Professor Dippett was headmaster. She was imprisoned many times for her activism, but this never dampened her strong will and passion for justice. Someday I hope to continue where she left off. She is one of my heroes."
Here she stopped to take a break for air. Whew! Then she went on to answer the second question:
"The Statute was needed a long time ago, but now I believe it is just a vehicle of oppression, both for us and for Muggles. It is oppressive to us because it forces us to suppress our true selves and it punishes us for being open with our neighbors. It is oppressive to Muggles because it keeps them in the dark and prevents them from getting the best medical cures available, since we can't use magic to help them. Of course there are some bad Muggles and some bad wizards, but why should all of us have to suffer because of them? If we are honest with ourselves, then we would know that teaching that Muggles are to be feared will only lead to more intolerance."
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Originally Posted by Optimist.Prime
Mel smiled up at Professor Newton as she greeted her. ”Thank you Professor Newton! I’m glad to be here” she smiled brightly at the history of magic Professor. The question that came up made Mel wince – she knew, knew that this could start issues. It always seemed to.
The way that Professor Newton said she didn’t want a heated debate just made Melbourne sigh. Thank merlin she grinned to herself as she listened to everyone’s insightful ideas. Like Dora Mel didn’t need to speak or to bring up anything about the utter mess that this class could become. Still when Professor Newton began to speak she immediately responded not by speaking but by note taking.
It was when Kirk greeted her that Mel couldn’t help but beam at him. Glancing over at Kirk she just raised an eyebrow as he started doodling and grinned…she’d have to pester him about seeing his sketches and doodles later. He was always to good at them. Professor Stewart got a GIANT grin when she welcomed her back to the class. ”I hope so too Professor, and I doubt that I will. I’ve been making sure to get regular sleep” she explained with a grin…and that was when she heard the question.
Raising her hand the Gryffindor girl just grinned brightly. ”Miss Pinkstone, if I do remember was born around 1922 and is noted as being an activist that campaigned for the lifting of the statute of secrecy” she grinned and sent a look over to Kitty wondering if she would speak up herself.
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Originally Posted by NifflerFan
As soon as Professor Newton told them not to be debating and stuff, Emmeline made a "zipping her lips" motion and then flashed the history professor an apologetic smile. She thought Miss Ravenclaw Prefect was wrong about some things, but she didn't want to hurt the older girl's feelings or anything. She noticed Miss Olivia's nod and grinned at her too.
All of her smiles faded as soon as Derf started talking. His story about the crups was super, way too sad for the first year. She couldn't help thinking of Sirius, all grown up and sneaking out into a nearby Muggle area and getting caught by the vicious dog catchers and--
Emmeline gulped. She knew that if Professor Wayland let her adopt Sirius, it would be up to her to make sure that he was never, ever around Muggles. Crups couldn't help hating Muggles, after all. She wasn't sure why Muggles had dog catchers anyway, but she couldn't really blame them for picking up what they thought were mean dogs either. It was a super, super sad situation all around, mhm. She hadn't thought about the statute protecting creatures before, but now that she thought about it, of course it did. Even some wizards were scared of some magical creatures, so of course they had to keep them away from Muggles. To keep the creatures AND Muggles safe, mhm.
Thinking about crups and stuff had caused the first year to pretty much zone out through the rest of Professor Newton's talking. It was a biiiig effort to zone back in when Professor Stewart started her talking. She didn't know who Carlotta Pinkstone was, but she had a pretty name. Maybe Miss Ravenclaw Prefect looked up to her or something? Emmeline liked some Great Witches and Wizards from the past too. She didn't know anything about the Pinkstone lady, and she'd already told her opinion about the statute earlier, but she raised her hand anyway 'cause she wanted to see what Professor Stewart thought: "I think the statute thingy needs to stay in place to keep everybody safer from each other and creatures too and stuff. But but, Miss Ravenclaw Prefect is right and we should try to help Muggles too." Muggles were people too, and Emmeline felt bad for them 'cause they hadn't been born with magic for some reason. She wondered why only SOME people were born with magic, and scribbled the question down in her notes. She'd ask Professor Stewart after the lesson maybe.
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Originally Posted by PhoenixRising
Wait, wait, hadn't Professor Newton told them to NOT talk about opinions on whether they should be repealing the statute or not? And now Professor Stewart was asking for their opinions??? Well she was asking about Carlotta Pinkstone, but also for their opinions. And this was just quite the contradictory lesson thus far, which on some level made sense since muggles versus wizardkind was like a walking contradiction.
Of course, Kitty would perk up again at the chance to offer her very opinionated side to why the statute should be repealed. And if she had to guess, Carlotta was probably the older girl's idol. She could see the headlines now: "Kitty Valentine: the NEW Pinkstone" Or maybe, "A new activist in sight: Kitty Valentine". Whatever. It wasn't her life and as long as the Prefect didn't try to jeopardize anything in her life, she could care less what she got her hands into.
She should probably say something, yes?
Not having anything to add about Carlotta, Skylar chose to add her opinions, "I think that while society has come a long way in the last four hundred years, there are still a lot of prejudiced folk out there. On both sides, muggles and magical folk. And before we can even consider repeals of statutes, or of revealing our true selves, there needs to be greater education and compassion." Yes, some might argue that you won't get education without proof, but ... "Sharing our secret means that muggles would want to know everything. And I don't think as a wizarding community we should have to reveal everything because we would be putting our own lives in danger. Some things are better left in the dark. We could still help muggles with medicinal cures, without telling them how to do it, I'm not saying to let muggles suffer... but we just don't have to spill the secrets. We can integrate, without revealing. There's no reason to tell them the how."
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Originally Posted by Lady of Light
Etta neatly noted down what was being said, careful not to miss anything. She'd need all of the study material for OWLs after all.. OWLs. They were just around the corner but she felt like she wasn't prepared at all. And the panic was starting again. She took deep breaths and concentrated on what was being discussed in class, not wanting to stress about exams at the moment. Wrong time. Okay.. so what was the question again? Right. Carlotta Pinkstone. She raised a hand to answer.
"From what I've read, she was very keen on integrating the magical and muggle communities as well.. right? And I personally think the Statute is needed.. or necessary to maintain peace and stability between both the communities because completely mixing them might.. result in conflict or a difference of opinion."
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Originally Posted by Daydreamer11
As her classmates gave their answers and Professor Newton discussed the topic, Shay took notes. She tried her best to keep up with the conversation, writing down the key points as they went along. Then it was Professor Stewart's turn to tie in the Muggle Studies part of things. And a two part question was on the floor. The first one was pretty straightforward. The second one, well that was a matter of opinion and that was something that her classmates had no shortage of.
Shay raised her hand and when she was called on, she added her two cents to the conversation. "Carlotta Pinkstone spent some time in Azkaban because she repeatedly did magic in front of muggles. She believed that it was the right thing to do. Whether you agree with her or not, I guess you have to admire her for standing up for what she believed." Shay did not necessarily agree with the woman, but she could see where she was coming from........which led to her next answer.
"As for the Statute........I think in a perfect world, it would be great if we could repeal it. Wizards and muggles living together in harmony." Shay, however, was not so naive as to believe that this was possible in today's world. When had she become so jaded? "Outside of Hogwarts, I live in the muggle world and right now, I don't see that happening. Some muggles today aren't completely accepting of muggles of other races, religions and cultures. How can we think that they will be accepting of us? I also think that some wizards aren't quite ready to accept muggles either. Someday maybe the statute won't be necessary, but today? I don't think that's the case." Someday.
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Originally Posted by sweetpinkpixie
Clause 73, right. That was a number that he actually remembered. Then again it was easier to remember things when it involved creatures. Selective memory and what not. Jotting down just a few notes since nothing they were discussing was reaaaaaally anything not found in pages in his textbook, Derf looked up when Professor Stewart spoke.
Oh boy...here we go again...
Derf was tempted to just stick his fingers in his ear and hum loudly to ignore the arguing that was likely to come like last time. Huh, they had been talking about the Statute a lot...hadn't they? Hmmm...
As for Carlotta Pinkstone...well...Derf had three chocolate frog cards of her in his collection and he had read over the information several times but nothing really stuck. No offense to the woman or anything, she just wasn't someone who his mind thought particularly memorable. "She went to Hogwarts too," he offered lamely. There. Fact shared.
As for his opinion on the whole Statute...well...if it helped keep creatures safe he was rather content. "I think...it's kinda scary how his-storically those that have wanted to repeal it have been kinda...extreme...acted extremely, you know?" Like the lady they were talking about. She ended up in Azkaban for Newt's sake! "Like...The Cult of Walpurgis...Grindelwald...dunno...it kinda paints a not so good image of what our world would be like if it were gone..."
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Originally Posted by Kayla Taaffe
The Statute was very important to Viv. Being Muggle-born, she could never perform magic unless in the case of an emergency. She raised her hand and said "There was Harry Potter when he saved his cousin Dudley against those ghastly Dementors! Also, Carlotta campaigned for the Ministry to lift up the Statute. I think the Statue is important. I am a Muggle-born and magic should not be presented in front of muggles."
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Originally Posted by Holmesian Feline
So she had a good guess but wasn’t going to get a yes or no confirmation on what the class had to deal with, at least from Newton out of the two professors. Nope…Professor Stewart seemed to agree. Fine by Cassie, she and the rest of the students in today’s class would find out soon enough. And soon enough the lesson was begin with brief attention brought to the three words on the board before Professor Newton Asked about the Statute of Secrecy. Right off the bat, Kitty gave a pretty thorough explanation concerning the legislation that played such an everyday yet important part in the wizarding world. Though the prefect went further, stating how she felt the Statute should be repealed.
Uh oh…Cass thought as a first year Gryffindor spoke up in defense. She knew from her father’s stories how topics like this could become quite heated. Thankfully Newton stepped in to try and keep it a calm discussion which seemed to work well enough. There was still plenty else to speak of on the matter though the Ravenclaw wasn’t quite sure what she could add. Another young Gryffindor’s, Derfael if she caught it correctly, words caught her attention however.
Used to head Accidents and Catastrophe? Did he work with her father?
Right…she needed to just pay attention to what was being said, catching anything she wasn’t readily aware of. Both known and unknown being caught and written into her notes. History of her world and all. The mention of Deatheaters brought Cass back to her original thoughts on a connection to the war or wars with Voldemort. When the debate on the Statute was reopened, the fifth year braced herself. Kitty remained adamant and a few others followed. However there was a decent amount that thought that while it would be great if it could be repealed , it wasn’t ideal.
And then there was Derfael again…mentioning the Cult of Walpurgis!
She remembered that, reading from something she might not have supposed to be privy too from her father’s past. The fight that ended just before she herself had been born. “Pinkstone favored appealing the Statute of Secrecy. I feel at the most, perhaps amendments might be made to adjust certain strictures.” Like the ones pertaining to relationships and muggleborn families.
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Originally Posted by Cassirin
The Ravenclaw prefect got some serious eye-rolling, but Katy had learned her lesson. In this very classroom, actually. Besides, other people were allowed to share their opinions, no matter how wrong, and they were allowed to have heroes who were nothing more than rabblerousers, if they couldn't find someone respectable to admire.
So. Katy raised her hand. "Professor...s. Carlotta Pinkstone chose to oppose the Statute by actively breaking it, and she was imprisoned several times for her efforts. She sort of cared more about her agenda than about who she hurt, since the Muggles who witnessed her lawbreaking had to be bespelled to lose that memory. Who knows what else they lost? It was pretty selfish of her." The one thing she knew about a cause was that it was never more important than the people stepped over along the way. And this was from a particularly self-involved Toussaint.
As for the Statute... "And I agree with Ms. Morrison. In a perfect world, we wouldn't have to protect ourselves from Muggles. Everyone's better nature would prevail. In practice, though, no one's better nature is prevailing. We still require society that is separate and hidden from those who would persecute and subjugate us for our differences."
Kay appreciated all of their opinions and told the class so. “As it currently stands, the Statute must be upheld. We are not in anyway to reveal ourselves to Muggles. Ever.’’ The last word was stressed upon. “Like all decisions made, they can be protested but must be done so peacefully. Those of you who mentioned that we should help Muggles when we can, this is right. We must but I repeat, we can never reveal our abilities to them.
''There are other reasons, aside from the ones mentioned, as to why many argue we should remain a secret: Muggles would be afraid of us and try to harm us. This was the case of Lisette de Lapin in 1422 though she managed to escape. Witch burning, persecution of wizarding children and attempts by muggles to force witches and wizards to perform magic are also included. Keep in mind that the world has evolved a great deal now and the incidents I speak of occurred a very long time ago. In addition, not all muggles thought the negative way that others would have.’’ While it would seem that Muggles were the villains, Kay would not try to hide the facts of what happened so many years ago. She was all for everyone living in harmony even if they could not reveal who they really were.
“The quote on the board...’’ Kay inclined her head towards it. “Was used by the Ministry of Magic while it was in control by Voldemort during the years 1997 and 1998. Simply put, what it meant was that Muggles were inferiors to witches and wizards. The point that I’m trying to put across is that in both worlds, there will be some who want all the power or who will want the power over everyone else. Whether the Statute should be lifted will always remain a debate but it is not one that we will have.’’
Right. It was time that they move on. “Does anyone has any questions? If not, we shall move onto today’s activity.’’
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Joint HoM and MS Lesson 3: The International Statute of Wizarding Secrecy 
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