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It was time for another Arithmancy class! Tiara was excited for this one, though that wasn't really anything new. It was normal for her to look forward to lessons. But she had a special interest in this topic for some reason, so hopefully the students liked it as well.
The classroom is warm and cozy against the chill that has hung in the air the past week. Contrary to the normal setup of desks in neat rows, today there is a small clearing in the center of the room. On the floor in the open space is a taped-off square, further divided into nine smaller squares. Each section has a number, one through nine, but other than that there is no indication of today's topic.
Professor Tanner stands behind the podium, prepared to greet you as you walk in.
OOC: The lesson will officially begin in around 8 hours. The lesson has officially started. Assume this is not the first lesson of the term, so Tiara will know your character by now.
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Sticking around or not...it was up to Adi really. Though it was nice to have him there with him. For support in the subject if nothing more, it ha certainly helped with potions and the mess he had previously had with the subject. As directed by Professor Tanner, he copied the number grid into his notes exactly as shown before moving to deal with the marking of his birthday, shading in the four boxes that were covered by the date in question.
August 26th, 2070
As the professor continued, Benny listened intently. So there were arrows created by complete rows of 3. Taking a look at his shaded chart, it was clear he himself didn't have any. Neither did the badger beside him when he looked over. It seemed for him and Adi, there was still no winning points. As for why someone might not have a positive arrow in their chart, the seventh year paused to think on the reason. "Perhaps their personality is an even mix of traits...that nothing in particular stands out."
Dumb numbers were DUMB. Didja see that? NO positive arrows. Not a single one. ZIP. NADA. NOTHING. Norah wrinkled her nose at the page in the textbook that was being unnecessarily mean to her poor soul (who gave it permission to do that, huh?) and busied herself writing notes on that the arrows meant. Y'know, all those arrows she didn't have. What a rip off. "I guess it could mean that you don't have any special good things about you." Which was COMPLETELY unfair, in case you were wondering. "Or maybe you do have positive things but one just doesn't stand out. Or they're SO positive that they all stand out so there can't be an importantest one. I don't have any positive arrows, so I hope my personality is still good without them." This mood she was in was horridly funky and didn't FEEL very good, though, so maybe she was going to be stuck like this forever and ever because that's what her numbers said. Where could one apply for a different birthday?
She did have a negative arrow, though. What a life.
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Opening her textbook, she looked to see what three blank boxes in a row meant. Negative arrows. Penelope had no arrows of positivity, but she had two arrows of negativity, the arrow of poor memory and the arrow of frustration. Apparently that meant her memory was going to get worse and she was going to be frustrated with people. Oh well, negative things in arithmancy were usually more about how you could improve that particular aspect of your personality than simply pointing out negative things about you. She was kind of worried about this memory loss thing. The textbook said that people with the memory loss arrow could be very smart and witty. She was smart.
Now, what did no positive arrows mean? "What if you have multiple negative arrows? If arrows represent strong personality traits, does it mean that you don't have any strong personality traits if there aren't any arrows?" With positive and negative it wasn't really good or bad, just different personality traits that people had been lead to believe were more positive or more negative. Okay, maybe some of the negative arrows weren't exactly good. Was the whole idea of good and bad, positive and negative right? Maybe there was no such thing as good and bad.
SPOILER!!: Parchment
My Birthday: 12 July 2072
12/7/2072
369 258 147
Positive Arrows: none
Negative Arrows: Arrow of Frustration, Arrow of Poor Memory
~ Mrs. Steve Harrington ~ It be like that sometimes.
Adi grinned at Tanner. "I just have a few with me right now.'' It was true. Ever since last term when Glendower had required coloured pencils for classes, he had gotten some of his own. Too bad she wasn't there to carry on with the History classes.
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Yup, yup!
The Hufflepuff had his stuff all set and was awaiting the next set of instructions. With his head tilted, he listened to Tanner explain about the Arrow from her grid before flipping to his textbook to look up his Arrows.
He had TWO negative Arrows.
Pffft. Their meanings about him were wrong. Off by a mile, thank you very much. But Tanner did say that Positive Arrows were not necessarily a good thing. Did it work both ways? Adi raised his hand. "It could it be that the person's negative traits were going to fade as they aged.'' he suggested uncertainly.
"Yes, ma'am," came Sophie's affirmative reply to the professor's confidence in her and Zander, accompanied by a thumbs-up and a smile over at the Gryffindor. Tanner always made her feel good, like the woman believed in her. Always had her vote of confidence, Sophie did, and it was greatly appreciated.
Turning her attention back up to the board, Sophie listened attentively, but ultimately ended up flipping through her textbook to get to chapter thirty to see just what Tanner was talking about as she explained it. Before she found the right page, Tanner was asking a question, and... Sophie had a general idea before she could even find out for herself in the book. She was already wondering about what happened when there were no positive arrows present, as SHE had no positive arrows present, so... she was going to peek in the textbook really quickly. Yes.
...She was reading through the positive arrows when Norah's answer made her squint. No special good things? Her hand shot up to object, but then the Hufflepuff prefect made up for it a little with providing other options. Yes. Good on you, Norah. Except... Norah then admitted that SHE didn't have any positive arrows, but that meant... Norah was essentially admitting to the whole class that she thought she didn't have any special good things about her. Right? Wasn't that what just happened?
No, Norah. No. Could Soph go hug her?
She also was sure Norah wouldn't have guessed such a thing if she knew Sophie didn't have any positive arrows, and she felt bad for letting her know otherwise... but Soph's hand raised anyway. "Well, I don't have any positive arrows, and I don't think I lack strong personality traits. Maybe... someone with no positive arrows has too many strong personality traits but it seems highly unlikely to fill the whole grid based upon a birth date, so y'can't just have all the arrows." Y'know? "Plus, the arrows don't even cover the entire realm of possible personality traits, so... people can still have strong personality traits even without a positive arrow, 'specially for traits that aren't even applicable, and I don't think not having one of these arrows means that personality trait isn't strong for you." She didn't think anyone would say she didn't have a strong personality, so it just COULDN'T work that way.
"Like, for me, the positive arrows of..." peeking at the book, "willpower... activity... 'n determination all seem applicable to me, and I don't need Pythagoras to tell me that." Since he hadn't, but she already KNEW. And... was she being helpfully critical, or uncooperative? She wasn't sure. "But I think these are more like... guidelines anyway. Like, s'not a one size fits all kinda thing, but I see how it could be helpful to some people who seek greater clarity in life and need help identifying strengths and weaknesses 'n stuff. These things aren't always super relevant, but when they are, it can be mega cool." So she wasn't ENTIRELY refuting this activity... just hopefully maybe encouraging those who, like Norah, seemed troubled by the whole thing already.
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Positive and Negative arrows. So that's why they were playing the tic tac toe at the first place? The young lioness then stared at her parchment.
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Once she opened her arithmancy textbook, she realized that didn't have any kind or arrow. Either the positive and negative one. Was it good or bad? Well, maybe good because she didn't have a negative one. "Maybe if we didn't have either positive or negative arrow means that we're awesome and our strong personality cannot be determined by the arrow?" Ava gave an opinion. "And I agree with Sophie's words." So if they didn't have any arrow means they were dull and boring? She didn't think so. You cannot judge someone's personality just based on their birthdate and stuffs.
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So far so good.
Marking her date of birth on the grid hadn't been a complicated task at all. Neither had glancing at the parchment once more to see if any of her numbers made a line of three in a row. They didn't.
Therefore there wasn't much for her to do as she didn't have to worry about positive or negative arrows. "Professor maybe the lack of having a positive or negative arrow is just a way of showing us that our mindset is evenly laid out. Nothing we do is better or worse then anything else...maybe we give everything our best and that's all we ask for," Hady answered having raised her hand. It might not be a correct answer but it made sense to her. Or well it had inside her head anyhow.
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No wait...
He had completely forgotten about the negative arrows, the ones formed by complete lines of clear spaces, of which he had one. See this was why he stumbled in arithmancy. There was nice, clear upwards diagonal from the lower left towards the upper right that including 1,5, and 9. Benny looked it up in the textbook beside his work, making a slight face at what arrow it revealed he supposedly had according to his birthdate.
The arrow of resignation?
Pfft....he had a good work ethic. And if he didn't have motivation, how would he be so close to achieving his future goal? Technically had in part, given he had worked with dragons over the summer.
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Blaise didn't understand at first why Daxton had scribbled that he won but sitting in his seat thinking about the formation of the X's and O's he was beginning to get it...and admittedly couldn't believe he'd made such a move. Ugh. "Next time." He promised. Next time because right now he was looking at his own arrow, perfectly content to know he had one.
"Maybe not having an arrow just means they don't do things like everyone else does and that they don't fall in line with expectations." Which wasn't a bad thing at all. Made them...unique and unique was better than being generic, right?
Was it bad he was kinda wishing he didn't have an arrow now?
He wanted to be unique.
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It was nice to know that she had done the first part right, but Paulina was at a loss when it came to what her lack of any arrows meant. At least she wasn't alone in this because otherwise she would feel like the odd one out for sure.
After thinking it over a minute she raised her hand to offer a guess. "Maybe people that don't have any arrows are a mixture of different traits and don't have one that stands out in particular? That's why they are all over the place." If that wasn't the reason for it, Paulina was at a total loss.
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The Arrows of Pythagoras. That was going to be interesting. Janelle listened as Professor Tanner explained about her own number pattern and positive arrow. Then Janelle opened her text book and found chapter thirty. She discovered that she had a positive arrow and hoped that it would be a good thing. There were negative arrows too, but the professor wanted to know what having no positive arrows meant.
Janelle thought about it for a moment. Then she raised her hand. "Maybe not having any positive arrows means that you strengths and weakness aren't as clear cut.......they're not as obvious......or maybe a person with no positive arrows has so many strong personality traits that it's hard to single out one or two." It was just a guess, but maybe that was the answer.
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Angel had just realised that she had messed up her work and had missed the 1, how had she done that... she was so annoyed with herself for doing it.
3 6 9 2 5 8 1 4 7
"I think I went wrong earlier Professor." Angel sighed, seriously though she would make it all better now, right this was right and now she could see what the thing said about her, reading up on it she smiled.
"Well Professor!" Angel said after she had raised her hand. "I would say that maybe something had happen to make the person change into a not so positive way, things that are beyond our control do happen occasional." Angel had no idea why she was saying this.
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Did that mean he'd die young? Wait, no, that was more of a Divi thing.
Zeke was curious, so very curious. So when they were given the go ahead to search up their arrow in the textbook, he didn't hesitate to thumb to the page required. What he found there though, was, less than desired.
What?
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Zeke copied out the part from the text beneath his negative arrow.
SPOILER!!: Text notes
Motivation and Determination may be lacking. They need to learn perseverance and a good work ethic, or they will resign themselves to whatever happens. They need to be encouraged to get the job started and to see it through to completion.
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What a load of rubbish.
Maybe he'd gotten his birthday wrong? Maybe he'd been celebrating the wrong day all his life? This... didn't apply to him. Not usually at least, unless it meant cleaning his room, but he always had extrinsic motivations to get him through the task.
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It looked like the noughts and crosses games had wrapped up nicely. And though she was sure that some of them were wondering why they had started that way, she couldn't just reveal all her secrets right away! As she walked around, she noticed that many of them were having an easy time of the highlighting. It hadn't been that hard of a concept, so she was pleased. "Everyone got their highlighting done?" she called as a way to bring the class attention back onto herself.
"Time to figure out what to do with them." Another swish of her wand made a change to her diagram. "Much like winning tic-tac-toe, the Arrows of Pythagoras happen when you form three in a row with your highlighted numbers. The 1-2-3 pattern I have is the Arrow of Planning, which is a positive Arrow pointing out my the strengths and weaknesses coming from my organizational mindset." She checked her notes briefly before finishing with, "The names of the other Arrows and their meanings are in chapter thirty for your reference."
She knew not all of them would have arrows, so she had to make sure she addressed that. "Positive Arrows are not necessarily good things, it just refers to the fact that the Arrow was found using the presence of three in a row." And if their minds were whirring, they might realize that the absence of numbers in a row also had significance. "Keeping in mind that Arrows represent strong traits in your personality, I would like you to share your ideas for what it might mean when someone does not have any positive Arrows present. Discuss with your partner, jot it down, talk to me.. Just as long as you are interacting with the question!"
Between reading the chapter for this class and listening to Professor Tanner, Rooney skim read the positive arrows section and made noted underneath his previous notes. Hand raised whilst he did that. "Professor? Does it mean anything if you have two in a row? Half a line? Does it mean I should be aspiring to that line?" It wasn't like he could change his birthday, but if it said he should be aiming for something then he supposed that he would consider that most definitely.
SPOILER!!: Rooney's Notes
Rooney A. Bronwyn
Arithmancy
Arrows of Pythagoras
Date of birth: August 1st, 2075
Numbers (birth order): 8 1 2 7 5
Numbers (num. order): 1 2 5 7 8
Positive Arrows
Arrow of Emotions (positive 2, 5, 8) Textbook definition - These people usually make good performers, and can often be quite intense and serious. Some are emotional drama queens. They often like to give advice to others even when their own life is secretly a mess. By becoming aware of their emotions, they gain control over them rather than have their emotions control their life. Once they do this they show great depth of understanding and are emotionally balanced.
"But I think that having no arrows means that you're--oh." His gaze continued from the Professor over to Norah, the Hufflepuff Prefect with wide eyes and a sympathetic smile.
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Dumb numbers were DUMB. Didja see that? NO positive arrows. Not a single one. ZIP. NADA. NOTHING. Norah wrinkled her nose at the page in the textbook that was being unnecessarily mean to her poor soul (who gave it permission to do that, huh?) and busied herself writing notes on that the arrows meant. Y'know, all those arrows she didn't have. What a rip off. "I guess it could mean that you don't have any special good things about you." Which was COMPLETELY unfair, in case you were wondering. "Or maybe you do have positive things but one just doesn't stand out. Or they're SO positive that they all stand out so there can't be an importantest one. I don't have any positive arrows, so I hope my personality is still good without them." This mood she was in was horridly funky and didn't FEEL very good, though, so maybe she was going to be stuck like this forever and ever because that's what her numbers said. Where could one apply for a different birthday?
She did have a negative arrow, though. What a life.
Actually, alongside the smile he stood up and moved towards her desk, giving her a tight cuddle. "You're pretty and positive and lovely and we all like you in here and out of here. AND you're a Prefect, Miss Norah. Only really great people are those." Cue a look at Miss Sophie Brown, Head Girl of Hogwarts, and a BIG SMILE. And more cuddles for Miss Norah.
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.....So he had no arrows?
Was there something wrong with him? His brow furrowed even more as the Professor went on. He wasn't really pleased to find out that his would be different than the majority of people's birthday chart things. He didn't know what it meant but he hoped it wasn't bad.
Raising his hand to add a suggestion, Milo spoke when called. "I don't have an arrows on mine. Does that mean that maybe a specific part of my personality is 'foggy' or more difficult to put into a specific category or state?" He hoped that made sense.
Foggy... that made her think of dementors, which were not her favorite creatures ever. She had to suppress a shudder, since she didn't want to confuse the poor boy. "An excellent suggestion, and well-reasoned at that." A very Ravenclaw trait, which she heartily approved. "It could be that part of your character is hard to pin down, yes."
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Sticking around or not...it was up to Adi really. Though it was nice to have him there with him. For support in the subject if nothing more, it ha certainly helped with potions and the mess he had previously had with the subject. As directed by Professor Tanner, he copied the number grid into his notes exactly as shown before moving to deal with the marking of his birthday, shading in the four boxes that were covered by the date in question.
August 26th, 2070
As the professor continued, Benny listened intently. So there were arrows created by complete rows of 3. Taking a look at his shaded chart, it was clear he himself didn't have any. Neither did the badger beside him when he looked over. It seemed for him and Adi, there was still no winning points. As for why someone might not have a positive arrow in their chart, the seventh year paused to think on the reason. "Perhaps their personality is an even mix of traits...that nothing in particular stands out."
Next to answer her was Benjamin. "Perhaps. You mean like an even-tempered person? Or maybe someone who has learned to subdue their passions?"
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Dumb numbers were DUMB. Didja see that? NO positive arrows. Not a single one. ZIP. NADA. NOTHING. Norah wrinkled her nose at the page in the textbook that was being unnecessarily mean to her poor soul (who gave it permission to do that, huh?) and busied herself writing notes on that the arrows meant. Y'know, all those arrows she didn't have. What a rip off. "I guess it could mean that you don't have any special good things about you." Which was COMPLETELY unfair, in case you were wondering. "Or maybe you do have positive things but one just doesn't stand out. Or they're SO positive that they all stand out so there can't be an importantest one. I don't have any positive arrows, so I hope my personality is still good without them." This mood she was in was horridly funky and didn't FEEL very good, though, so maybe she was going to be stuck like this forever and ever because that's what her numbers said. Where could one apply for a different birthday?
She did have a negative arrow, though. What a life.
Importantest?
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She was going to choose to let that one go. "No, you misunderstand, Miss Kittredge. Positive arrows do not necessarily mean good things. If you read through the descriptions, you would find some that you would likely not want to describe yourself." It was a common misconception. "You need not worry about your personality being fine without them, therefore." Hopefully that cleared things up.
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Opening her textbook, she looked to see what three blank boxes in a row meant. Negative arrows. Penelope had no arrows of positivity, but she had two arrows of negativity, the arrow of poor memory and the arrow of frustration. Apparently that meant her memory was going to get worse and she was going to be frustrated with people. Oh well, negative things in arithmancy were usually more about how you could improve that particular aspect of your personality than simply pointing out negative things about you. She was kind of worried about this memory loss thing. The textbook said that people with the memory loss arrow could be very smart and witty. She was smart.
Now, what did no positive arrows mean? "What if you have multiple negative arrows? If arrows represent strong personality traits, does it mean that you don't have any strong personality traits if there aren't any arrows?" With positive and negative it wasn't really good or bad, just different personality traits that people had been lead to believe were more positive or more negative. Okay, maybe some of the negative arrows weren't exactly good. Was the whole idea of good and bad, positive and negative right? Maybe there was no such thing as good and bad.
SPOILER!!: Parchment
My Birthday: 12 July 2072
12/7/2072
369 258 147
Positive Arrows: none
Negative Arrows: Arrow of Frustration, Arrow of Poor Memory
Is there such thing as "good" and "bad" traits?
"We have not yet reached negative arrows just yet, Miss Wright, so please hold on to your thoughts about those." One of Tiara's pet peeves was going ahead, so she had to remind herself that Penelope was probably just curious, which was in fact a good thing. "In some cases yes, it could mean that someone does not have strong personality traits, but not always."
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Adi grinned at Tanner. "I just have a few with me right now.'' It was true. Ever since last term when Glendower had required coloured pencils for classes, he had gotten some of his own. Too bad she wasn't there to carry on with the History classes.
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Yup, yup!
The Hufflepuff had his stuff all set and was awaiting the next set of instructions. With his head tilted, he listened to Tanner explain about the Arrow from her grid before flipping to his textbook to look up his Arrows.
He had TWO negative Arrows.
Pffft. Their meanings about him were wrong. Off by a mile, thank you very much. But Tanner did say that Positive Arrows were not necessarily a good thing. Did it work both ways? Adi raised his hand. "It could it be that the person's negative traits were going to fade as they aged.'' he suggested uncertainly.
Again with bringing up the negative arrows. "I am failing to see the connection between not having positive arrows and negative traits fading with age, Mister Rehman. Perhaps you could clarify." He did not have to, but he could if he wanted. Maybe he really was talking about positive arrows after all.
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"Yes, ma'am," came Sophie's affirmative reply to the professor's confidence in her and Zander, accompanied by a thumbs-up and a smile over at the Gryffindor. Tanner always made her feel good, like the woman believed in her. Always had her vote of confidence, Sophie did, and it was greatly appreciated.
Turning her attention back up to the board, Sophie listened attentively, but ultimately ended up flipping through her textbook to get to chapter thirty to see just what Tanner was talking about as she explained it. Before she found the right page, Tanner was asking a question, and... Sophie had a general idea before she could even find out for herself in the book. She was already wondering about what happened when there were no positive arrows present, as SHE had no positive arrows present, so... she was going to peek in the textbook really quickly. Yes.
...She was reading through the positive arrows when Norah's answer made her squint. No special good things? Her hand shot up to object, but then the Hufflepuff prefect made up for it a little with providing other options. Yes. Good on you, Norah. Except... Norah then admitted that SHE didn't have any positive arrows, but that meant... Norah was essentially admitting to the whole class that she thought she didn't have any special good things about her. Right? Wasn't that what just happened?
No, Norah. No. Could Soph go hug her?
She also was sure Norah wouldn't have guessed such a thing if she knew Sophie didn't have any positive arrows, and she felt bad for letting her know otherwise... but Soph's hand raised anyway. "Well, I don't have any positive arrows, and I don't think I lack strong personality traits. Maybe... someone with no positive arrows has too many strong personality traits but it seems highly unlikely to fill the whole grid based upon a birth date, so y'can't just have all the arrows." Y'know? "Plus, the arrows don't even cover the entire realm of possible personality traits, so... people can still have strong personality traits even without a positive arrow, 'specially for traits that aren't even applicable, and I don't think not having one of these arrows means that personality trait isn't strong for you." She didn't think anyone would say she didn't have a strong personality, so it just COULDN'T work that way.
"Like, for me, the positive arrows of..." peeking at the book, "willpower... activity... 'n determination all seem applicable to me, and I don't need Pythagoras to tell me that." Since he hadn't, but she already KNEW. And... was she being helpfully critical, or uncooperative? She wasn't sure. "But I think these are more like... guidelines anyway. Like, s'not a one size fits all kinda thing, but I see how it could be helpful to some people who seek greater clarity in life and need help identifying strengths and weaknesses 'n stuff. These things aren't always super relevant, but when they are, it can be mega cool." So she wasn't ENTIRELY refuting this activity... just hopefully maybe encouraging those who, like Norah, seemed troubled by the whole thing already.
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Tiara was positively BEAMING at Sophie Brown. Not only had she stuck up for Norah and encouraged her, she had also displayed sound reasoning and a mature view of the applications of Arithmancy. "Everyone, I cannot possibly elaborate upon Miss Brown's words and hope to add anything of benefit." Truly, the professor was almost tearing up. "Miss Kittredge, I believe your questions and objections have now been satisfactorily addressed." Oh, and one more thing. "Five points to our Head Girl!"
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Positive and Negative arrows. So that's why they were playing the tic tac toe at the first place? The young lioness then stared at her parchment.
Once she opened her arithmancy textbook, she realized that didn't have any kind or arrow. Either the positive and negative one. Was it good or bad? Well, maybe good because she didn't have a negative one. "Maybe if we didn't have either positive or negative arrow means that we're awesome and our strong personality cannot be determined by the arrow?" Ava gave an opinion. "And I agree with Sophie's words." So if they didn't have any arrow means they were dull and boring? She didn't think so. You cannot judge someone's personality just based on their birthdate and stuffs.
Hmm, another good thought to follow on Sophie's. "Well I won't deny your awesomeness, dear," she said, throwing the girl a wink. "And it is possible that there are parts of your personality not addressed by the Arrows, yes."
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So far so good.
Marking her date of birth on the grid hadn't been a complicated task at all. Neither had glancing at the parchment once more to see if any of her numbers made a line of three in a row. They didn't.
Therefore there wasn't much for her to do as she didn't have to worry about positive or negative arrows. "Professor maybe the lack of having a positive or negative arrow is just a way of showing us that our mindset is evenly laid out. Nothing we do is better or worse then anything else...maybe we give everything our best and that's all we ask for," Hady answered having raised her hand. It might not be a correct answer but it made sense to her. Or well it had inside her head anyhow.
Oh, an interesting viewpoint from the Slytherin. Hady had progressed in her thinking quite nicely since she arrived at Hogwarts. "Similar to Mister Atreyu's idea? Except I would disagree with the second part. I personally believe that some actions certainly are better than others... though you were simply talking about some people in general, so I suppose I cannot take umbrage with that."
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Blaise didn't understand at first why Daxton had scribbled that he won but sitting in his seat thinking about the formation of the X's and O's he was beginning to get it...and admittedly couldn't believe he'd made such a move. Ugh. "Next time." He promised. Next time because right now he was looking at his own arrow, perfectly content to know he had one.
"Maybe not having an arrow just means they don't do things like everyone else does and that they don't fall in line with expectations." Which wasn't a bad thing at all. Made them...unique and unique was better than being generic, right?
Was it bad he was kinda wishing he didn't have an arrow now?
He wanted to be unique.
A bold suggestion from the equally bold Gryffindor. "Ah, so would you then suggest that possessing no positive arrows is, in and of itself, a positive arrow?" True, the boy had not suggested as much himself, but Tiara wanted to push his thinking even more.
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It was nice to know that she had done the first part right, but Paulina was at a loss when it came to what her lack of any arrows meant. At least she wasn't alone in this because otherwise she would feel like the odd one out for sure.
After thinking it over a minute she raised her hand to offer a guess. "Maybe people that don't have any arrows are a mixture of different traits and don't have one that stands out in particular? That's why they are all over the place." If that wasn't the reason for it, Paulina was at a total loss.
This was a different way of phrasing something that had already been mentioned. However, that did not bother Tiara in the least. Sometimes it helped students understand concepts better if they vocalized their thoughts."That is a common explanation, yes."
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The Arrows of Pythagoras. That was going to be interesting. Janelle listened as Professor Tanner explained about her own number pattern and positive arrow. Then Janelle opened her text book and found chapter thirty. She discovered that she had a positive arrow and hoped that it would be a good thing. There were negative arrows too, but the professor wanted to know what having no positive arrows meant.
Janelle thought about it for a moment. Then she raised her hand. "Maybe not having any positive arrows means that you strengths and weakness aren't as clear cut.......they're not as obvious......or maybe a person with no positive arrows has so many strong personality traits that it's hard to single out one or two." It was just a guess, but maybe that was the answer.
Another spin on the common theme. "Or perhaps your strengths and weaknesses are not something you let others see? Many people do that with weaknesses, of course. But more reserved people have a tendency to hide their strengths occasionally.."
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Angel had just realised that she had messed up her work and had missed the 1, how had she done that... she was so annoyed with herself for doing it.
3 6 9 2 5 8 1 4 7
"I think I went wrong earlier Professor." Angel sighed, seriously though she would make it all better now, right this was right and now she could see what the thing said about her, reading up on it she smiled.
"Well Professor!" Angel said after she had raised her hand. "I would say that maybe something had happen to make the person change into a not so positive way, things that are beyond our control do happen occasional." Angel had no idea why she was saying this.
Tiara was glad that Angel had spotted her mistake. Actually, she hadn't noticed it herself when she was circling the room. And now the girl had hit upon an interesting thought. "Oh! So you are saying someone that is undergoing a shift in their basis traits, perhaps due to a crisis or important life event, may not display arrows?" But wait a minute, that did not really work. "An interesting thought, but our birth dates cannot change based on current life events, so that would still not change your arrows." She gave the girl a smile anyway. "But that was a profitable line of inquiry, Miss Valentine." If the girl kept thinking like that, she could be a good Arithmancer.
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Between reading the chapter for this class and listening to Professor Tanner, Rooney skim read the positive arrows section and made noted underneath his previous notes. Hand raised whilst he did that. "Professor? Does it mean anything if you have two in a row? Half a line? Does it mean I should be aspiring to that line?" It wasn't like he could change his birthday, but if it said he should be aiming for something then he supposed that he would consider that most definitely.
SPOILER!!: Rooney's Notes
Rooney A. Bronwyn
Arithmancy
Arrows of Pythagoras
Date of birth: August 1st, 2075
Numbers (birth order): 8 1 2 7 5
Numbers (num. order): 1 2 5 7 8
Positive Arrows
Arrow of Emotions (positive 2, 5, 8) Textbook definition - These people usually make good performers, and can often be quite intense and serious. Some are emotional drama queens. They often like to give advice to others even when their own life is secretly a mess. By becoming aware of their emotions, they gain control over them rather than have their emotions control their life. Once they do this they show great depth of understanding and are emotionally balanced.
"But I think that having no arrows means that you're--oh." His gaze continued from the Professor over to Norah, the Hufflepuff Prefect with wide eyes and a sympathetic smile.
Actually, alongside the smile he stood up and moved towards her desk, giving her a tight cuddle. "You're pretty and positive and lovely and we all like you in here and out of here. AND you're a Prefect, Miss Norah. Only really great people are those." Cue a look at Miss Sophie Brown, Head Girl of Hogwarts, and a BIG SMILE. And more cuddles for Miss Norah.
He should probably move back to his seat now....
Ah, an insightful question. "The location of your arrows in relation to each other does not have a particular meaning that I am aware of, but if you are curious, the library may have something to say on the subject." And she could probably recommend a few good tomes. Also, she was grateful for his kind words to the Hufflepuff Prefect.
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"So to summarize and elaborate, people with no arrows tend to be flexible, adaptable people. They do not have specific traits, either positive or negative, that could cause an imbalance." That was the key. "So I would argue that having no positive arrows could actually be a good thing. Learning to master yourself is all about finding balance, after all." In all realms of life, not just personality. "Those with arrows have a predisposition to struggle with keeping that part of themselves in check, whether because of character flaws, life circumstances, or something else."
The professor glanced at her watch. "Ah, time is making fools of us! We have just enough time to mention negative arrows, which are not necessarily bad traits." Her own numeric profile could not help her here, unfortunately. "Negative arrows are formed by making three in a row of your UNhighlighted squares. I do not have any, but your text has all the possible examples."
So they barely had time for the final thing she wanted to get to, but they could make it work. "To finish up, I would like you to find the negative and positive arrows of our most astute Headmaster Botros. His birthdate is the 14th of August in 2003." Wow, it just hit her that he was born only a few years after Lord Voldemort had finally been defeated. "Give it a go!"
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Zeke was still grappling with the fact that he was apparently lacking work ethic and whatever, when Professor Tanner continued, summarising some of they key points they picked up so far. It WAS interesting, but right now he could only really think of himself. How so very selfish of him.
And then there was an activity for Professor Botros' birthday. Cool. And WHOA. The dude was old. Of course he was, he was granddad-ish - whether he was one or not, remained to be seen.
BUT..
Okay.
Headmaster Botros. 14th of August, 2003
3 6 9 2 5 8 1 4 7
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Interesting. But wait... positive AND negative???.... he could only see a positive. The arrow of planning. And so he quickly scribbled out the meaning of it beneath his notes.
SPOILER!!: Text notes
These people have good planning and organisational skills. They are able to make plans, recognise their goals and work out the best way to achieve them. However, they need to leave room for spontaneity and fun as they tend to over-plan. They will often have copious notes with everything written down, and a well planned diary. They often skip the details in order to see the bigger picture.
He supposed good planning was needed to run a school like Hogwarts... and to teach... so, good on him.
BUT... he had questions, and so he raised his hand to attract Professor Tanner's attention.
"Professor, I can't see a negative arrow, is there one?" he asked. Because yeah, unless he missed something, he couldn't find one that resembled any in his textbook.
And also... "I think my negative arrow might be wrong, is this possible?"
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Maybe it was the meanings of his negative arrows that had put him off with his last reply to Tanner's question but Adi himself was confused about his own reasoning. Like what did he just say? Haha. "Er, I fail to see it too, Professor,'' he admitted, not at all embarrassed to admit his confusion. But a few moments later, he was beginning to understand thanks to his classmates and Tanner herself.
So then him having negative arrows was actually a GOOD thing. Cool! But onto the activity! Gosh, Botros was ancient, yo! Well, Adi knew that but seeing his date of birth... I repeat, Botros was ancient! Hehe. The Hufflepuff now set to work.
Hadn't Tanner said BOTH positive and negative arrows were to be found? Adi could only see a positive one. HUH? Oh, wait! The Zekester had noticed that too. While he waited for the Professor to get to the Lion's question, he scribbled his notes for the positive arrow.
SPOILER!!: Adi's Work!
Professor Botros's DOB: 14th of August 2003
3 6 9 2 5 8 1 4 7
Arrow of Planning: These people have good planning and organisational skills. They are able to make plans, recognise their goals and work out the best way to achieve them. However, they need to leave room for spontaneity and fun as they tend to over-plan. They will often have copious notes with everything written down, and a well planned diary. They often skip the details in order to see the bigger picture.
Sophie Brown to the rescue! Norah would act surprised except then she'd just be lying, 'cause everybody knew that Sophie Brown was a real hero. She deserved those five points too, maybe even more. The Ravenclaw could probably win a whole house cup all by herself, considering all the hero-ish stuff she did. This fifth year could use a few lessons.
She nodded solemnly at Professor Tanner's response. "Sorry, Professor. It makes more sense now." Misunderstanding was something Norah was VERY good at. She had a whole lot of practice, uh huh. Before she could say anything else there was an ickle Ravenclaw by her desk, doing the snuggle thing. Did he KNOW that snuggles were her favorite things? She gave Rooney the Cutie (she'd have to think of a more creative nickname later) a big squish and a smile. "You're a sweetheart, did you know?" If he didn't know he was going to learn real fast, considering he was probably the sweetest sweetheart who ever lived.
With the weight that didn't seem to want to leave her shoulders just the slightest big lighter, she turned back to her textbook. Her negative arrow was an "Arrow of Resignation." So that meant she lacked motivation? That was.....kind of true in some senses but 600% untrue in others. She only lacked motivation in some things, and those were dumb things like hair brushing or reading more pages than her professors said she had to. She was EXTRA motivated for some things that she considered to be a whole lot more important. So maybe Sophie Brown was right (wasn't she always?) and the arrows weren't as clear cut as they seemed to be. That was a much nicer way to think about it. Rooney's hugs probably helped the most, though, but don't tell anybody. Especially since he called her pretty, 'cause who ever said that? Probably nobody, unless she wasn't listening hard enough.
Norah moved on to Professor Botros's grid next, drawing it next to her notes on the arrow meanings.
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The Headmaster's Grid: 3 6 9 2 5 8 1 4 7
Two thousand THREE. Man, he was OOOOOLD. She squinted at the grid. Wait. Wasn't that only a positive arrow? She checked the meaning of that one: organized and stuff, which made sense considering his job, before putting a hand in the air. Oh. Zeke had the same question. She brought it down again and looked expectantly at Professor Tanner. Could she have more Rooney cuddles now?
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Ah, an insightful question. "The location of your arrows in relation to each other does not have a particular meaning that I am aware of, but if you are curious, the library may have something to say on the subject." And she could probably recommend a few good tomes. Also, she was grateful for his kind words to the Hufflepuff Prefect.
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"So to summarize and elaborate, people with no arrows tend to be flexible, adaptable people. They do not have specific traits, either positive or negative, that could cause an imbalance." That was the key. "So I would argue that having no positive arrows could actually be a good thing. Learning to master yourself is all about finding balance, after all." In all realms of life, not just personality. "Those with arrows have a predisposition to struggle with keeping that part of themselves in check, whether because of character flaws, life circumstances, or something else."
The professor glanced at her watch. "Ah, time is making fools of us! We have just enough time to mention negative arrows, which are not necessarily bad traits." Her own numeric profile could not help her here, unfortunately. "Negative arrows are formed by making three in a row of your UNhighlighted squares. I do not have any, but your text has all the possible examples."
So they barely had time for the final thing she wanted to get to, but they could make it work. "To finish up, I would like you to find the negative and positive arrows of our most astute Headmaster Botros. His birthdate is the 14th of August in 2003." Wow, it just hit her that he was born only a few years after Lord Voldemort had finally been defeated. "Give it a go!"
More books. Rooney nodded. "I'll take a look later, thanks Professor!" He was always a fan of reading up on things, even if he understood them. Different points of views made different things click in your mind and he was also a fan of that. The clicking and the view points. Just anything, really. Truly. He fell back into listening carefully, checking his textbook and notes alongside things being said and that he had already written down.
SPOILER!!: Rooney's Notes
Rooney A. Bronwyn
Arithmancy
Arrows of Pythagoras
Date of birth: August 1st, 2075
Numbers (birth order): 8 1 2 7 5
Numbers (num. order): 1 2 5 7 8
Positive Arrows
Arrow of Emotions (positive 2, 5, 8) Textbook definition - These people usually make good performers, and can often be quite intense and serious. Some are emotional drama queens. They often like to give advice to others even when their own life is secretly a mess. By becoming aware of their emotions, they gain control over them rather than have their emotions control their life. Once they do this they show great depth of understanding and are emotionally balanced.
Professor Botros
Date of birth: August 14th, 2003
Numbers (birth order): 8 1 4 2 3
Numbers (num. order): 1 2 3 4 8
3 6 9 2 5 8 1 4 7
Positive Arrows
Arrow of Planning (positive 1, 2 3) Textbook definition - These people have good planning and organisational skills. They are able to make plans, recognise their goals and work out the best way to achieve them. However, they need to leave room for spontaneity and fun as they tend to over-plan. They will often have copious notes with everything written down, and a well planned diary. They often skip the details in order to see the bigger picture.
Negative Arrows
Nil.
Now that he had finally looked at the negative arrows, he quickly checked over if he had any himself... A 3, a 6 and a 9... Oh... Arrow of poor memory?! POOR MEMORY?! Did this thing know that he could recite in alphabetical order the past and present stage crew at his theatre school? That was not poor memory, because he had been with that theatre school since his 3rd birthday.
He was outright offended. And maybe a little bit teary. Not enough to call it crying, but enough to push firmly on his eyes with the sleeve of his robe and wiped the leakage away. He wished he had no negative arrows like Professor Botros. At least then no one would say he had poor memory.
Because he didn't.
His memory was in perfect condition. And a tendency to forget and be mentally dull?
Mentally dull?
Where had he gone wrong in his twelve years of life. "Professor, the textbook says I'm mentally dull. I don't think I'm mentally dull. Am I mentally dull?" And no. He was not crying.
...Sophie Brown had NOT expected such great approval from Tanner for her answer, but she smiled all the same. On one hand, it was nice to be praised... but on the other hand, she had a feeling that most of the class was shooting daggers at her right now and thinking she was a know-it-all, goody-two-shoes teacher's pet, ESPECIALLY when Tanner awarded her five points. Heh. "Thanks, professor." Her grin turned a bit sheepish, and Soph only made eye contact with Norah, who got a nod of further encouragement and understanding, and Rooney, who got a thumbs-up and a wink. What a cutiepie he was, comforting the Hufflepuff like that.
So she was a flexible, adaptable person. Well... that was true, so maybe Pythagoras DID know a little bit of what he was talking about. No imbalance here, and Tanner even SAID having no arrows was a good thing. Moooore smiles for Norah over there.
When it came to Botros' arrows, Soph made quick work of identifying them.
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14th August, 2003
3 6 9 2 5 8 1 4 7
Positive Arrows: Arrow of Planning
Negative Arrows: None
So he had - she checked the textbook - the Arrow of Planning. Cool enough, but it was curious that neither Tanner nor Botros had negative arrows. Soph had one, she noticed: the Arrow of Skepticism. Reading over the synopsis, it... actually didn't seem too bad at all. Her gaze turned upward when questions were posed about the negative arrows, Soph shook her head in response to Zeke's question. Tanner could answer for herself, but Soph just assumed Tanner had asked them to find the positive AND negative arrows as more of a general statement to look out for both of them, not necessarily that there WOULD be one. And for the negative arrow being wrong... Soph remained silent again, but considered how his question related back to what she'd said before. Not always accurate, just... guidelines, yes, for those seeking some clarification in different aspects of life, perhaps.
...But ohhhh no, it had caused ROONEY SADNESS. "Don't let anyone, 'specially a dead guy from centuries and centuries ago, try to tell you 'bout your life, Rooney. You know who you truly are, 'n so do we. You're brilliant 'n creative 'n a beautiful artist 'n a dynamite chef 'n you're the furthest thing from mentally dull." Just so he, and the entire class, knew.
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Scrutinizing his work further, Ethan scribbled down on his parchment his thoughts about not having any Postive Arrows. Well, it is a bit sad not to fall into a certain category alright, but the fact that he and those who don't have the plus arrows as well could be just...too cool to be even categorized by Pythagoras. He was assured countless times by friends and family that he's great, so he's not going to be swayed into disappointment.
However, seeing that he's got a negative arrow made him sink a bit further down his seat. Maybe he should work on that one instead, yeah? It was actually a good thing that he's not infallible...no one is, and being flawed could only mean that a person is interesting, correct? No one likes boring people anyway.
Moving on though, Ethan flipped his parchment over, and scribbled down the birthday of their Headmaster. 14 August 2003. Merlin, one thing IS for sure. Their professor's really old. Nonetheless, the Slytherin loves him because of his grandfatherly affection that can only be achieved through old age.
SPOILER!!: Parchment
Ethan T. Mordaunt
8 October 2069
8,1,2,6,9
369 258 147
Postive Arrow (None)
Negative Arrow (3>5>7) :: Arrow of Skepticism
These people don’t trust indiscriminately and it is hard to pull the wool over their eyes. They want proof, needing to investigate and prove for themselves before they will believe what others claim as fact. Usually suspicious of anything metaphysical, they should beware of shutting themselves off completely from being open to new possibilities.
Headmaster Abraham K. Botros14 August 2003
1,4,8,2,3
3 6 9 2 5 8 14 7
Positive Arrows (1>2>3) :: Arrow of Planning
These people have good planning and organisational skills. They are able to make plans, recognise their goals and work out the best way to achieve them. However, they need to leave room for spontaneity and fun as they tend to over-plan. They will often have copious notes with everything written down, and a well planned diary. They often skip the details in order to see the bigger picture.
Negative Arrows (None)
Huh. They often skip the details in order to see the bigger picture. Now...that is a bit alarming for a Headmaster, yes?
Ethan placed his quill down and examined his notes further. Was this a...forewarning? Well, if he were an accomplished Detective Wizard, that last line could be very useful.
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Zander grinned over at Sophie once they had gotten approval from Tanner, making sure to give the Professor a big smile as well. So maybe they weren't the complete dream team, but HEY they still had this stuff down. And Zander was expecting to do pretty decently on the NEWT exam as well. He'd just have to study a bit to make sure he was just as good on his own.
But anyways. Arrows. Yeah. Those.
SPOILER!!: zander's things for reference
Zander Adair
Birthday: 3rd January, 2070
3 6 9 2 5 8 1 4 7
Positive Arrows: Arrow of Planning (1,2,3)
Negative Arrows: Arrow of Frustration (4,5,6)
Well he did have a positive arrow, unlike a lot of the others in the class. But where others were concerned with their lack of an arrow, Zander was more concerned with the meaning behind his own. The positive arrow of... planning??? He uh, furrowed his brows as he continued to read in his textbook. This didn't sound right "will often have copious notes," clearly this was about some Ravenclaw.... Um "need to leave room for spontaneity" he was PLENTY spontaneous thankyouverymuch.
He gave his textbook a LOOK. Yeah, if anyone was upset that they didn't have an arrow, Zander was willing to give his away. It was all wrong anyways. And he was so caught up in the details, that he didn't even offer an answer to the next question that Tanner posed... Though, he supposed Sophie's answer beat everything, so it wasn't really necessary for him to even try and add on.
Sophie Brown is a genius. Maybe she should take his arrow of planning or whatever.
And then there was more talk about arrows, but this time they were negative ones? Well, er, Zander had one of those too. And funny enough it was in the column right next to his positive one. This time it ran through the very middle. Arrow of... frustration? Okay, the only thing Zander was frustrated about is these bogus arrows. He was not frustrated OKAY?!?! Ahem.
Luckily he didn't have time to marinate in these thoughts, however, because it was time to work on calculations for their Headmaster. Ahem.
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Head Master Botros
Birthday: 14th of August in 2003
3 6 9 2 5 8 14 7
Positive Arrows: Arrow of Planning (1,2,3)
Negative Arrows: None
Huh. Well that was funny, Botros had the same positive arrow. The planning one. It made sense for the Headmaster, but Zander STILL didn't see why he had gotten it. Just didn't make sense.
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Tia beamed when the Professor commented on her work. At least she didn't seem to mind her lack of tic-tac-toe, but really in the sixth year's mind, that wasn't really the important bit of class. It was just a silly fun warmup, probably something to do with the fact that there were nine squares, just like in the pythagoras arrow calculations.
Text Cut: Tia's notes
August 4, 2071 (8-4-2071)
3 6 9 2 5 8 1 4 7
Positive Arrows: Arrow of Practicality (1,4,7)
Negative Arrows: Arrow of Poor Memory (3,6,9)
Reading the description, she highlighted a few key bits; practical and down to earth and can think through any problem. She definitely tended to steer towards the practical sides of things. But wait, this positive arrow sort of contradicted her negative arrow. How could she work long and hard but also be forgetful? Oh wait, no nevermind, it made sense as she kept reading. She worked hard to make sure she DIDN'T forget. But did this mean when she was old and gray she was going to wind up senile with some irreversible memory disorder? Ugh, that just meant she had to work harder NOW to make sure she didn't lose it.
Enough reflecting though and onto the next calculation; Professor Tanner wanted them to look at the arrows for the Headmaster. 2003? She actually had NO idea that Botros was that . . . old and it kind of made her feel young.
Text Cut: Tia's notes continued
Headmaster Botros, August 14, 2003
3 6 9 2 5 8 1 4 7
Positive arrows: Arrow of Planning (1,2,3)
Well that actually made sense, considering he was headmaster and all that he would be good at planning and organizing. And no negative arrows, well wasn't he just a wonderful source of strength and light? It almost made her envious because he was a Hufflepuff and had no negative traits he needed to work on. He just exhibited positive energies. And it couldn't even necessarily be attributed to him being older and wiser, because it was based on his birthdate which meant this showed true even he when he was just sixteen. So unfair.
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Angel was actually starting to enjoy the lesson, she hadn't thought about that, but it had been what she had been thinking at the time. She then looked at the next thing she had to do.
Headmaster Botros. 14th of August, 2003
3 6 9 2 5 8 1 4 7
Angel looked at the work she was doing and now she had to work it out, there was something to do.
SPOILER!!: work
Arrow of Planning Positive 1,2,3
Angel then looked for the negative arrow and at the minute there was now nothing there. "Professor, The headmaster doesn't seem to have any negative arrow." Angel thought that it was cool that the headmaster was so positive according to his arrow.
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Hady gave a nod of her head in reply to Professor Tanner. "Yes I do agree with that as well. Not everyone is genuine in what they do either... but in the general idea most are." Or at least that's how she saw it.
With another quick check to her parchment she assured herself that she indeed did NOT have any arrows at all. Neither positive nor negative. So with that aside the fourth year snake began on the next part of her classwork.
SPOILER!!: Headmaster Botros Info
Headmaster's Birthday - 8/14/2003
369 258 147
The Arrow of Planning - 1, 2, 3 (Positive Arrow)
He has no negative arrows showing.
With nothing else to write down Hady laid her quill aside and waited for the lesson to continue forward. Was there more to it then just this? Cause so far the lesson was rather easy today.
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