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SlytherinSistah 06-11-2014 04:02 AM

Simon & Cutty
 
Text Cut: Cleopatra Lolita
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lolita Domingo (Post 11623745)
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She clapped her hands several times to get the attention of the class. "¡Atención! Back up here, please." Lolita paused several seconds to allow them to finish their sentences. "I saw many good thought processes, and a few of you even figured out the answers by the end." Some of them had clearly memorized a textbook, though, which was not the type of critical thinking and deep understanding she was looking for. Anyone could look up answers, what she wanted to know was if they could riddle them out themselves.

"So five, as the union of the first male and female numbers, was thought to stand for love and marriage." She nodded in the direction of the several who she'd heard that idea from. "Now ten unites the properties of uniqueness, polarity, harmony, and all of space or matter because it is a combination of one, two, three, and four." This was the hint she had given them. "Therefore, ten is the number of everything and was the Pythagoreans' most revered number, since it represented the whole of the cosmos." More appreciative nods toward those who had come to this conclusion.

After a slight pause for scribbling notes, she continued. "So to summarize.." With a wave of her wand, the equations disappeared and the vibratory influences they had discussed appeared.



"Now for the task. Remember how I said Arithmancy could help us understand ourselves better? We can use these basic vibratory influences as building blocks to get other numbers. For instance, six is the product of 2 and 3, the first male and female numbers, and when the two genders combine after marriage, the 5, new life is formed. So six represented creation." And much more, but that was the most commonly used characteristic. "I would like to hear YOUR ideas on the numbers seven, eight, and nine. There are multiple answers possible, as the ancient literature has little consensus on how the Pythagoreans viewed these. Once more you may pair with someone or not, it is up to you." And she wanted to see creativity and a solid thought process here, not just textbook answers.


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OOC: You will have between 24 and 36 hours to complete this task. This is the main activity portion of the lesson, so feel free to post multiple times!




Cutty pulled out a clean sheet of parchment to reorganize his notes.

SPOILER!!: Cutty's Notes

1: Not a number. No gender. Unity/Uniqueness.
2: First female number. Opinion & division. Partisan. Polarity. (1+1)
3: First male number. Harmony. (1+2)
4: Second female number. Justice & order. (1+3)
5: Second male number. Marriage & Love. (2+3)
6: Third female number. Creation. (2x3).
7: Third male number. _______ (3+4)
8: Fourth female number. ____________ (2x4)
9: Fourth male number. _____________(2+3+4)
10: Fifth female number. The cosmos (1+2+3+4)


Professor Domingo's answer left Cutty guessing. Left him eager to spot the patterns. Not so much to please her, but for his own selfish gratification. Did gender play a greater role than meaning? Why were some numbers figured by multiplication and not addition? And besides being a convenient hint, why should five have been excluded in figuring the vibrational energy behind ten? Was there a significance for numbers one through four? What would happen when they got to much larger numbers?

Maybe they were looking at any variant of numbers provided they were smaller than the one being looked at. There had to be a pattern, though. Something that the discoverers were looking at to form a conclusion. He amended his notes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cutty's Notes
1: Not a number. No gender. Unity/Uniqueness.
2: First female number. Opinion & division. Partisan. Polarity. (1+1)
3: First male number. Harmony. (1+2)
4: Second female number. Justice & order. (1+3)
5: Second male number. Marriage & Love. (2+3)
6: Third female number. Creation. (2x3)
7: Third male number. _______ (3+4)(6+1)(5+2)(4+2+1)
8: Fourth female number. ____________ (2x4) (4+4) (6+2) (5+3) (7+1)(5+2+1)
9: Fourth male number. _____________(2+3+4) (4+5) (3x3) (3+6)(8+1)(5+3+1)(7+2)
10: Fifth female number. The cosmos (1+2+3+4)

If seven was a combination of a male number representing harmony and a female number representing justice or order, perhaps it could've been thought of as balance, rather than five. In Cutty's experience, marriage was as far from balance as anything you could get, though he did not regard this as a bad thing. Merely, he thought it inaccurate. Though, maybe it was something different. Maybe the pattern was 1+1, 1+2, 1+3, 2+3, 2(3), 2+5, 5+3, 5+4, 5+5. The last three might have also been combinations involving 3. 3+4=7, 3+5=8, and 3(3)=9, but then you'd have the combo breaker with 10.




Text Cut: Holden
Quote:

Originally Posted by Emms (Post 11623782)
He smiled when the Professor gave him an approving nod. Yes, headed in the right direction. Despite getting her assuring nod, he still felt a little wibbly-wobbly about Arithmancy, he'd have to find people to study with. He copied down the answers that the Professor wrote on the board carefully into his notebook.

SPOILER!!: Arithmancy notebook

Vibratory Influences
ONE: generator of all numbers, not actually considered a number; characterized reason
TWO: first female number; characterized opinion and division
THREE: first male number, combination via addition of 1 (unity) and 2 (division); characterized harmony
FOUR: second female number, represented space and matter; characterized by justice and order
FIVE: union of first male and female numbers; characterized love and marriage
SIX: product of two and three; creation
TEN: unites 1, 2, 3, and 4, represents the idea of everything; characterized by the cosmos


He paused. Now they had to figure out seven, eight, and nine, hey? Hmm... He rested his chin on his hands. Seven could be opinion and division plus love and marriage. But what would that even mean? He had no clue. Eight could be something to do with love and marriage plus harmony. Then nine could mean justice and order plus creation? He copied down these in his notebooks but what did this mean exactly?

SPOILER!!: notebook again

SEVEN: male number. Opinion + Division + Love + Marriage = ?
EIGHT: female. Love + Marriage + Harmony =?
NINE: JUSTICE + ORDER + CREATION = ? government?


Now Simon was lost...... Ehh..... Okay




"Hey Holden, want to compare notes?" He said leaning nearer to the boy.

Watson 06-11-2014 04:09 AM

Our mental synchronization....
 
SPOILER!!: Cutty
Quote:

Originally Posted by SlytherinSistah (Post 11623996)
Cutty pulled out a clean sheet of parchment to reorganize his notes.

SPOILER!!: Cutty's Notes

1: Not a number. No gender. Unity/Uniqueness.
2: First female number. Opinion & division. Partisan. Polarity. (1+1)
3: First male number. Harmony. (1+2)
4: Second female number. Justice & order. (1+3)
5: Second male number. Marriage & Love. (2+3)
6: Third female number. Creation. (2x3).
7: Third male number. _______ (3+4)
8: Fourth female number. ____________ (2x4)
9: Fourth male number. _____________(2+3+4)
10: Fifth female number. The cosmos (1+2+3+4)


Professor Domingo's answer left Cutty guessing. Left him eager to spot the patterns. Not so much to please her, but for his own selfish gratification. Did gender play a greater role than meaning? Why were some numbers figured by multiplication and not addition? And besides being a convenient hint, why should five have been excluded in figuring the vibrational energy behind ten? Was there a significance for numbers one through four? What would happen when they got to much larger numbers?

Maybe they were looking at any variant of numbers provided they were smaller than the one being looked at. There had to be a pattern, though. Something that the discoverers were looking at to form a conclusion. He amended his notes.

If seven was a combination of a male number representing harmony and a female number representing justice or order, perhaps it could've been thought of as balance, rather than five. In Cutty's experience, marriage was as far from balance as anything you could get, though he did not regard this as a bad thing. Merely, he thought it inaccurate. Though, maybe it was something different. Maybe the pattern was 1+1, 1+2, 1+3, 2+3, 2(3), 2+5, 5+3, 5+4, 5+5. The last three might have also been combinations involving 3. 3+4=7, 3+5=8, and 3(3)=9, but then you'd have the combo breaker with 10.

"Hey Holden, want to compare notes?" He said leaning nearer to the boy.


"JINX!" exclaimed Simon as practically he and Cutty had asked each other to team up at the same time. Woah, man. They were definietly on the same wavelength today. His eyes widened in suspicion for a brief second. "Uh, sure." Simon pulled out his notes and looked for the next three numbers that they had to solve.

SPOILER!!: notebook
SEVEN: male number. Opinion + Division + Love + Marriage = ?
EIGHT: female. Love + Marriage + Harmony =?
NINE: JUSTICE + ORDER + CREATION = ? government?


" Not sure if this is right, but I was guessing that perhaps nine had something to do with governments. I don't know why, but it seemed to make sense. What do you think?" he asked his dormmate as he was unsure about it all. The Professor said he was going in the right direction though....

Hmmmm...

DaniDiNardo 06-11-2014 04:37 AM

Lex was still scowling down at her blank parchment when she heard the Professor approach and encourage not to let the veggies keep her down....If she had to guess the Professor wanted her to keep trying and that wouldn't have been so bad if she actually knew what they were on about. For a few moments she kept staring at her parchment that was still relatively blank until some explanations started rolling in at which point she began her religious scribbling. Couldn't miss a thing. It would be the difference between her understanding and not.

SPOILER!!: Notes
Vibratory Influences
ONE: generator of all numbers, not actually considered a number; characterized reason
TWO: first female number; characterized opinion and division
THREE: first male number, combination via addition of 1 (unity) and 2 (division); characterized harmony
FOUR: second female number, represented space and matter; characterized by justice and order
FIVE: union of first male and female numbers; characterized love and marriage
SIX: Creation
TEN: unites 1, 2, 3, and 4, represents the idea of everything; characterized by the cosmos


After taking everything down she gave another look at her parchment. They had to find 7, 8 and 9 and they were mixing other numbers? Was that it? Alexa chose the wrong day to not sit next to a Ravenclaw. As dumb as they were, they came in handy during this type of thing, there was no denying that. It looked like she'd be attempting on her own though. Pity.

Lex squinted at the numbers for a while before realizing it would get her nowhere. Picking up the quill didn't help either because she still didn't know what direction she was going in but at some point she had to start scribbling, if only to fill in the spaces. Merlin was she happy she didn't have an Arithmancy OWL to worry about at the end of this year.

SPOILER!!: Her attempt?
SEVEN: (3 + 4) Harmony, Justice, Order = Peace? Hufflepuffs? A perfect place that doesn't exist? I'd say the Headmistress but she's only got one of those going for her.
(2 + 5) Opinion, division, marriage, love = One of those really annoying marriages that people get stuck in because they think they're in love but it only makes them unhappy.

EIGHT: (2 x 4) Opinion, division, justice, order = A working democracy
(3 + 5) Harmony, love, marriage = This is the stuff babies are made of. I don't recommend.

NINE: (4 + 5) Justice, order, love, marriage = Some kind of cohesive unity, maybe someone who's easy to get along with and make friends with eventually if they don't annoy you too much with how good they are first.

(3 + 6) Harmony, creation = Working something out cooperatively to get good results so Imma go with Puffers again.


Welp, no one could say she hadn't tried.

Wood'sLittleFlower 06-11-2014 04:41 AM

There was hair pulling over here.

CB was tugging on the ends of her hair, frustrated and slightly confused. With a sigh, she stood up from her desk, and adjusted her toga before heading toward the front of the room to grab another kabob. Arithmancy was not her thing as she was slowly finding out.

On her way back to her seat, she nibbled at the kabob, almost dropping a piece in the process. She straightened her parchment tent as she wiggled into her seat and went back over her notes.

Quote:

ONE: generator of all numbers, not actually considered a number; characterized reason What????
TWO: first female number; characterized opinion and division What does this mean??
THREE: first male number, combination via addition of 1 (unity) and 2 (division); characterized harmony I don't get this either.
FOUR: second female number, represented space and matter; characterized by justice and order Why do they have genders?
FIVE: union of first male and female numbers; characterized love and marriage They're not alive...
SIX: Product of two and three. First male and female numbers. New life is formed after marriage. Creation????
SEVEN: ????
EIGHT: ????
NINE: ????
TEN: unites 1, 2, 3, and 4, represents the idea of everything; characterized by the cosmos??????

She desperately wanted something to chew on, to calm her nerves. Apparently she wasn't as prepared as she thought she was and attempted to hide her notes under her arms whenever the professor got too close. Heh.

Desperate for some help, CB tapped the girl who happened to be sitting in front of her (Sophie) on the shoulder with the feathery end of her quill, making sure the glittery pink ink didn't drip in the process.

"What did you get?" 'Cause i've got nothing.

Deezerz 06-11-2014 04:48 AM

Text Cut: Slight catch up
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lolita Domingo (Post 11623624)
Lolita nodded to Agatha. "De nada, chica." It was WELL deserved in her eyes. She had been the ONLY one to compliment the fantastic outfit so far.


This young lady needed some refinement, that was certain. "Yes, that sounds excellent. I expect your findings on the matter on my desk by next week Thursday." Perhaps that would teach her some refinement, no?

The Latina began to stroll around the room. May as well start with the stylish girl (Agatha) first. "Good start, dear. What else?" After all, she had only had a few seconds before Lolita got there. Next was Mr Newell. After a short pause, she nodded approvingly. "Clever, noticing both were combinations of male and female. Keep going: what happens when the two genders are joined together as one?" He was soooo close.

Next up, the boy whose toga now fit him (Zander). Hmmmm, he could use some help. "Found a partner yet?" she asked him while searching around. "Perhaps Miss Carrington?" The girl appeared to have quite a bit written down, so perhaps they could collaborate.

And now she came upon Bean Girl. With a quick peek at the name tent, Lolita knew she would never forget the name Zahra Kettleburn. "Very creative, Miss Kettleburn. Yes, pair with Mr Newell, that out to help you both out." Maybe. After all... meat and ice cream? Not sure where that had come from besides an overactive imagination.

She continued her circuit around the classroom, coming next to Miss Wayne. "Bueno, can you think of what five could represent practically speaking, an event in our lives?" Both her and Caleb were very close. And nearby was Mr Strand, who was likewise on the right track. "Same comment: what event could five represent in our lives?"


"Bravo, Miss Wright. Your ideas for ten are spot on, and I like your creativity for five as well." And only a first year? She would have to watch this particular Ravenclaw as there was definitely some potential in her. But also some awkwardness, it seemed. Pulling out her wand, Lolita performed the same spell she had done just a few minutes before. Seeing a perfectly-fitting toga, she quietly said, "There, that should help."


"Yes, Mr... Mordaunt, there are other ways. And we shall see what they are later on, so I will not give it away now. As for ten, it can be thought of as five and five, but I thought the combination I gave may be more helpful as a hint." She looked down at what he had so far. "Very clever to bring in the yin-yang concept." He was quite right, that was where it had originally come from.

Moving on, she came upon Miss Valentine. "A good start, dear. What else?" A first year probably shouldn't be expected to have much more yet, but it could not hurt to keep thinking. Which was exactly what Miss Abbott needed to do as well, but it appeared she was going to pair with Mr Strand.

There were so many students! She just kept circling the room. "Good start, Mr Rehman. What practical event could five symbolize?" As for Mr Moore, the first year was struggling a bit, though at least he had some initial ideas. "Perhaps Mr Rehman could help you out."

Moving to Miss Newell.. was she related to the other Newell in the class? It seemed likely. She scanned the notes. "Perfecto, chica! Excellent work." She couldn't think of a single criticism, which was saying something for Lolita. "Perhaps Mr Hair could benefit from your insight. His appears to be lacking." But at least his number were written in Spanish. That had to count for something.


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OOC: A few more hours before we'll move on. Keep those ideas coming!



Beverly slowly raised her gaze to look up at Professor Domingo. What could five represent in their lives? An event? Glancing back down at her parchment, she made a few tweaks. So two and three are added, that's like...bonding...getting together...

Ha. Haha.

A sudden out of the blue thought crossed her mind. It was almost enough to distract her, but she pushed it to the WAY far back of her mind. Numbers. Arithmancy. She needed to think about that kind of stuff.

Focusing back on the task at hand, she dipped her quill in ink and started jotting notes and fixing a few things.

SPOILER!!: Beverly Wayne's notes

- FIVE: Due to the number being compose of both female and male, I don't think it's either. It's sort of both. (Male) It's as if the numbers are joining together and mashing their characteristics. (Relationship, marriage)
- SIX: Female.
- SEVEN: Male.
- EIGHT: Female.
- NINE: Male.
- TEN: Female. Again, I don't think it's either male or female, because it is composed of all the numbers, making it whole. (Universal)


So...she labeled which were male and which are female...now for the rest. >.<

Stefan 06-11-2014 05:24 AM

Mentions of Cutty + Simon.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Notes on Chalkboard
ONE: generator of all numbers, not actually considered a number; characterized reason
TWO: first female number; characterized opinion and division
THREE: first male number, combination via addition of 1 (unity) and 2 (division); characterized harmony
FOUR: second female number, represented space and matter; characterized by justice and order
FIVE: union of first male and female numbers; characterized love and marriage
TEN: unites 1, 2, 3, and 4, represents the idea of everything; characterized by the cosmos

The Slytherin nodded back at the professor and examined his answer. Well, that worked and was pleased himself. The better news? He can get more kebabs. But yeah, maybe in a little while, he’d go savor his little achievement first, because learning Arithmancy is a bit of a challenge, no?

The explanation was revealed shortly, and Ethan nodded in understanding as he copied the exact answer for Five and Ten. Well, he’s close all right, and that was good. At least his answer didn’t come straight from a textbook. That even made him feel smarter and whatnot. Moving on!

Whaaaaaat?

More numbers??? The Slytherin scrunched up his nose as he re-read the writings on the board. Six is the product of the male and female number, which could only mean a first born child, correct? But what about numbers seven to nine? Seriously? Ethan controlled himself not to do a head desk, instead, he concentrated on the smell of food. Yes. That should be enough to drive his brain to work, no? And so…more experimenting happened.

Scribble, scribble, scribble. Head scratch. Scribble, scribble, scribble.

SPOILER!!: Ethan’s Deduction

Six (Creation) = Two(First female number)* Three(First male number)
Seven (Tolerance / Family) = Four (Space & Matter or Creation) + Three (Harmony) OR Five (Love & Marriage) + Two (Opinion & Division) OR Six (Creation) + One (Reason)
Eight (Control or…Authority?) = Five (Love & Marriage) + Three (Harmony) OR Four (Justice and Order) * Two (Opinion + Division) OR Seven (Tolerance / Family) + One (Reason)
Nine (Understanding / Justice?) = Three (Harmony) * Three (Harmony) OR Five (Love & Marriage) + Four (Justice & Order) OR Seven (Family / Tolerance) + Two (Opinion and Division) OR Eight (Control / Authority) + One (Reason)
Ten (Perfect Number)


“This is crazy stuff.” Ethan thought as he cradled his head while writing his interpretation. Stuff’s hard, you see? The Slytherin put his quill down, got up and got himself some more veggie kebabs. Analysing stuff that he doesn’t know makes his stomach protest for food. Besides, growing kid. As he munched happily on his food, Ethan nudged Simon and gestured the boy to let him see his notes. Sharing is caring…and he just might get something more sensible from his fellow snake. He too, turned to Cutty who’s just behind him. “Watcha got, Mordaunt?” Three heads are better than two. See? That even seemed relevant in Arithmancy. Three is greater than two. Heh. As Ethan took a peek, the Slytherin choked at Cutty’s work. Cough, Cough, Cough. “Are you Pythagoras’ decendant???” Those numbers just looked…intimidating for the boy. Yup.

SlytherinSistah 06-11-2014 06:15 AM

That was weird, dude. O__O
 
Text Cut: Simon
Quote:

Originally Posted by Emms (Post 11624000)
"JINX!" exclaimed Simon as practically he and Cutty had asked each other to team up at the same time. Woah, man. They were definietly on the same wavelength today. His eyes widened in suspicion for a brief second. "Uh, sure." Simon pulled out his notes and looked for the next three numbers that they had to solve.

SPOILER!!: notebook
SEVEN: male number. Opinion + Division + Love + Marriage = ?
EIGHT: female. Love + Marriage + Harmony =?
NINE: JUSTICE + ORDER + CREATION = ? government?


" Not sure if this is right, but I was guessing that perhaps nine had something to do with governments. I don't know why, but it seemed to make sense. What do you think?" he asked his dormmate as he was unsure about it all. The Professor said he was going in the right direction though....

Hmmmm...



"Juh..!", But before Cutty could get the word out, Simon had already uttered it. Too eerie. For the first time in his life, Cutty's face mirrored that of the person with whom he was communicating quite unintentionally. Wide-eyed suspicion.

It had suddenly faded, however to blank consideration as he looked down at his dormmates notes. "I was lookin' for a pattern. Trying to see if it mattered which numbers we combined to arrive at 7-9's numerical vibration. What I see is that the first three numbers are found by combining 1 with other numbers, then the next three are found by combining 2. Like, 2 plus 3 is five and 2 times 3 gives us 6 and so on. So I was wondering if the next set would be combinations of 3 or perhaps 5." He took a blank sheet of parchment and demonstrated for his dormmate just what he meant.
Quote:

Originally Posted by the parchment
1+1=2, polarity
1+2=3, harmony
1+3=4, justice & order
2+3=5, marriage
2(3)=6, creation
2+5=7, ________
3+5=8,________
3(3)=9 OR 3+6=9,________
3+2+1+4=10, the cosmos

"If that's the case, then I think you'd be close with your answer for 9. Only, you've got the meanings for 4 and 6, which gives us 10." He spoke casually, though. Not his usual judgey self. Or he was holding it all in, as he was prone to rudeness. "I think you meant 5, anyway. Which gives us..."

Quote:

Originally Posted by the parchment
3(3)=9 OR 3+6=9,________

5+4=9, MARRIAGE + JUSTICE + ORDER=Contracts, Agreements, Social binds.

"But if there is a pattern with 3, then maybe 9 might be..."

Quote:

Originally Posted by the parchment
3(3)=9 OR 3+6=9, HARMONY + HARMONY=Peace OR HARMONY + CREATION=Masterpieces

5+4=9, MARRIAGE + JUSTICE + ORDER=Contracts, Agreements, Social binds.

Cutty looked to his dormmate to try and glean anything of comprehension, although to his weak amygdala he was more likely trying to read an expression that suggested he was being followed or believed.

nanyjj 06-11-2014 10:14 AM

catchup and Cris
 
SPOILER!!: Cris, Professor and Cris again
Quote:

Originally Posted by FireboltAvis88 (Post 11623654)
Cris was still trying to ascertain whether his answers made sense or not, when Leah leaned over to whisper to him asking whether they could share their ideas. Cris smiled and nodded at her. "Sure here's what I've got" Cris pulled over his notes to let her read them. Tell me what you think,[/b]"

Text Cut: Cris' possible answers

5: Is a male number since it is an odd number. As its characteristics are a combination of the characteristics of both two (opinion and division) and three (harmony), number 5 characterizes perfect balance, because it is a combination of both an odd and even number, and opinion and division is evenly balanced out with harmony.
10: Is a female number since it is an even number. As its characteristics are a combination of the characteristics of 1 (unity), 2 (opinion and division), three (harmony) and four (justice and order), number 10 characterizes completeness. This is because all the characteristics leading up to this number are equally represented.


...and then Professor Domingo came around to see what he had written down. A hint? She was giving a hint about an even that the number 5 could represent in his life. The characteristics he had identified for the number 5 had been perfect balance, the union between man and woman, harmony...event? Wait could it be? Marriage?

Cris quickly turned to look at Leah, "Do you think the event Professor Domingo is talking about is marriage? I mean it seems to make sense. Since 2 is female and 3 is male, and the characteristics are harmony, opinion and balance, that would be the only event that would be applicable," Cris explained how he came up with that conclusion.

Now for number 10. The Professor had not mentioned whether his conclusion about that number had been correct, so Cris decided to delve deeper.

"Leah, the Professor said the number 10's characteristic is equal to the combination of the characteristics for the numbers 1,2,3 and 4. That means it represents is all things, reason, opinion, division, unity, harmony, space and matter, justice and order.

Now with that in mind, I recall reading somewhere, that the Greeks considered 10 the greatest number because they associated it with the tetractys, which is a triangular figure consisting of ten points arranged in four rows. Since, the tetractys symbolized the four elements i.e. earth, wind, water and fire, it was also considered a mystical symbol, by the Greeks.

So since the Tetractys is symbolic to the Greeks and they considered it the most powerful number, and that number possesses all those other characteristics, it would stand to reason that 10 represents everything there is in the universe. To make a long story short, I believe the number 10 characterizes the universe....as a whole. Am I making any sense here?
" Cris looked over at Leah, even as he tried to comprehend what he had just concluded.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lolita Domingo (Post 11623745)
"There are a few vegetables left up here if you want seconds!" she called as she reached the front of the room. Now who was next? Reaching Ethan, she nodded approvingly. He was clearly putting thought into it. As was Jasmine with her ideas of conflict and peace. Next was Simon, who also seemed to have some good ideas and sensible combinations. They were all three on the right track.

Ah, a bit of Spanish. Perhaps she wouldn't give up on the British just yet. Lolita watched as the gears turned in this promising young lady's head. "Indeed! Five is marriage, well done!" she smiled. Yes, she had an intuitive grasp on this already.

Miss Cambridge seemed to be a bit lost. "Keep trying, muchacha. Don't let the vegetables get you down." This one was clearly a carnivore if her barely touched food was any indication. At least she had the common decency to take one.

On to Cris and Leah. Another one that had successfully figured out five. "Muy bueno, muchachos. Excelente." It sounded as if they were still trying to make sense of their verdict on ten, so she let them think a little longer.

Who had just asked a question? Lucy Petersfield.. interesting surname. "Spot on for five, very close for ten" She smiled once more. One more trip around the room ought to do it, since the students were starting to figure it out.

Had she been to Mr Whitlock's desk yet? Lolita didn't think so. What had he come up with? Hmmm "Keep trying, Mr Whitlock." He had veered a bit off course, but certainly not as far as Bean Girl had.

Choosing to ignore said Bean Girl's comments about Operation Poot or something, she made her way back to the girl who had not put her toga on at the beginning of the lesson (Angel). She simply shook her head and made no comment. This is what happened when you didn't follow directions to begin with: you missed the instruction and had no idea what was going on. Lolita decided to let her learn the hard way.


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She clapped her hands several times to get the attention of the class. "¡Atención! Back up here, please." Lolita paused several seconds to allow them to finish their sentences. "I saw many good thought processes, and a few of you even figured out the answers by the end." Some of them had clearly memorized a textbook, though, which was not the type of critical thinking and deep understanding she was looking for. Anyone could look up answers, what she wanted to know was if they could riddle them out themselves.

"So five, as the union of the first male and female numbers, was thought to stand for love and marriage." She nodded in the direction of the several who she'd heard that idea from. "Now ten unites the properties of uniqueness, polarity, harmony, and all of space or matter because it is a combination of one, two, three, and four." This was the hint she had given them. "Therefore, ten is the number of everything and was the Pythagoreans' most revered number, since it represented the whole of the cosmos." More appreciative nods toward those who had come to this conclusion.

After a slight pause for scribbling notes, she continued. "So to summarize.." With a wave of her wand, the equations disappeared and the vibratory influences they had discussed appeared.

"Now for the task. Remember how I said Arithmancy could help us understand ourselves better? We can use these basic vibratory influences as building blocks to get other numbers. For instance, six is the product of 2 and 3, the first male and female numbers, and when the two genders combine after marriage, the 5, new life is formed. So six represented creation." And much more, but that was the most commonly used characteristic. "I would like to hear YOUR ideas on the numbers seven, eight, and nine. There are multiple answers possible, as the ancient literature has little consensus on how the Pythagoreans viewed these. Once more you may pair with someone or not, it is up to you." And she wanted to see creativity and a solid thought process here, not just textbook answers.


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OOC: You will have between 24 and 36 hours to complete this task. This is the main activity portion of the lesson, so feel free to post multiple times!

Quote:

Originally Posted by FireboltAvis88 (Post 11623873)
So they were accurate when they concluded that the number 5 represented marriage. And as for the number 10, it represented everything? They had it almost there. A tad off but almost there. Cris quickly copied down Professor Domingo's explanation.

Text Cut: Cris' answers

ONE: generator of all numbers, not actually considered a number; characterized reason
TWO: first female number; characterized opinion and division
THREE: first male number, combination via addition of 1 (unity) and 2 (division); characterized harmony
FOUR: second female number, represented space and matter; characterized by justice and order
FIVE: union of first male and female numbers; characterized love and marriage
SIX: product of two and three; creation
TEN: unites 1, 2, 3, and 4, represents the idea of everything; characterized by the cosmos


So what did 7, 8 and 9 represent. 'The in-betweeners, that's what they were,' Cris thought to himself. 'Okay let's first figure out what these numbers might represent.' Cris told himself as he began writing down his thoughts.

Text Cut: Thoughts on the numbers 7, 8 and 9

7 - odd, male number. Product of 3 and 4. Considered mystical. There are 7 days in a week. Represents change, life growth and development. Characterized life and destiny.
8 - even, female number. Figure 8 looks like a woman. Number is sacred because it is the only evenly-even number. That is the number 8 is a product of 2 4's, the 4's a product of 2 2's and the 2's the product of 2 1's. Combination of 4 (justice and order) or 2 (harmony) or 1 (reason). Characterized law, prudence and counsel.
9 - odd, male number. 9 months of pregnancy, the initial life of a human. Is the first square number (3X3). Last number before the infinite number, 10. Nothing can come after that. It is just one short of the perfect number. Limited by one number. Can't go past 10. Represents limitations and boundaries. Characterized, failure and shortcomings.


Did that totally make sense to him? Cris figured it did. Whether the Professor agreed with him was another matter. Pulling his journal over to Leah, Cris showed Leah his conclusions.

"Does this look right, Leah?" Cris asked the younger puff.


Cris' notes were fascinating up close. That was all Leah felt at first, staring at all those words. "Uh huh," she said, reading about 5 and 10. "Oh, so adding the two numbers add the characteristics too." Well that bit was easy. Professor Domino (the second year still could not get her name right) came and gave Cris a hint. An event in life. Balanced out with harmony... marriage? Just as Leah was about to say it out loud, her partner had said her thoughts out. "Yeah, I agree. Perfect harmony makes marriage." Also the two plus three.

Moving on to ten, the girl listened to Cris speak. "Reason, opinion, division, unity, harmony, space and matter, justice and order? That's like, everything." she commented, before the older Badger continued. She nodded. "Understood." The Greeks were weird, though.

Professor Domino's explanation proved them correct! Or nearly correct, anyway. Not understanding why a number representing EVERYTHING actually existed, Leah scribbled down her thoughts.
SPOILER!!: Notes about 7, 8, 9
7 - 3+4 Male. Harmony, justice and order.
8 - 4+4 Female. Double justice and order.
9 - 3*3 Male. Triple harmony

Haha. But not bad considering that it was Leah Abbott writing down notes. The girl waited a bit for Cris who was writing an awful lot. Finally when she passed him her notes with a "Mine's really bad, trust me." she was again surprised by his notes. "Um, I don't mean to criticize or anything, but isn't the product or 3 and 4 twelve?" the second year asked, pointing at his description of 7. Moving on to the other numbers, she nodded. "I feel sorry for number 9." Sad face cue.

Chiara 06-11-2014 10:42 AM

Number nine: Nine are the months that the child uses to grow and be born..
Nine might be the number of the birth!
Number eight is the number that reminds me of the snowman and the track of the little cars..
Professor might be the number eight the number of the fun?
Number seven..seven are the colours of the rainbow..seven is the number of perfection!

SlytherinSistah 06-11-2014 11:24 AM

Text Cut: Ethan brother!cousin
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mordred (Post 11624037)
The Slytherin nodded back at the professor and examined his answer. Well, that worked and was pleased himself. The better news? He can get more kebabs. But yeah, maybe in a little while, he’d go savor his little achievement first, because learning Arithmancy is a bit of a challenge, no?

The explanation was revealed shortly, and Ethan nodded in understanding as he copied the exact answer for Five and Ten. Well, he’s close all right, and that was good. At least his answer didn’t come straight from a textbook. That even made him feel smarter and whatnot. Moving on!

Whaaaaaat?

More numbers??? The Slytherin scrunched up his nose as he re-read the writings on the board. Six is the product of the male and female number, which could only mean a first born child, correct? But what about numbers seven to nine? Seriously? Ethan controlled himself not to do a head desk, instead, he concentrated on the smell of food. Yes. That should be enough to drive his brain to work, no? And so…more experimenting happened.

Scribble, scribble, scribble. Head scratch. Scribble, scribble, scribble.

SPOILER!!: Ethan’s Deduction

Six (Creation) = Two(First female number)* Three(First male number)
Seven (Tolerance / Family) = Four (Space & Matter or Creation) + Three (Harmony) OR Five (Love & Marriage) + Two (Opinion & Division) OR Six (Creation) + One (Reason)
Eight (Control or…Authority?) = Five (Love & Marriage) + Three (Harmony) OR Four (Justice and Order) * Two (Opinion + Division) OR Seven (Tolerance / Family) + One (Reason)
Nine (Understanding / Justice?) = Three (Harmony) * Three (Harmony) OR Five (Love & Marriage) + Four (Justice & Order) OR Seven (Family / Tolerance) + Two (Opinion and Division) OR Eight (Control / Authority) + One (Reason)
Ten (Perfect Number)


“This is crazy stuff.” Ethan thought as he cradled his head while writing his interpretation. Stuff’s hard, you see? The Slytherin put his quill down, got up and got himself some more veggie kebabs. Analysing stuff that he doesn’t know makes his stomach protest for food. Besides, growing kid. As he munched happily on his food, Ethan nudged Simon and gestured the boy to let him see his notes. Sharing is caring…and he just might get something more sensible from his fellow snake. He too, turned to Cutty who’s just behind him. “Watcha got, Mordaunt?” Three heads are better than two. See? That even seemed relevant in Arithmancy. Three is greater than two. Heh. As Ethan took a peek, the Slytherin choked at Cutty’s work. Cough, Cough, Cough. “Are you Pythagoras’ decendant???” Those numbers just looked…intimidating for the boy. Yup.




"If I am you might be too. We might be related. Mordaunt's not common as all that." Or the wizard by the same name at the train depot seemed to give that impression. Maybe he could convince Ethan that they were actually family. Cutty knew not of any relation due to his father's with-holdings, but he figured it couldn't hurt. On the chance that Ethan should be prefected. There was nothing so cushy as the position of al-vizier.

From his years of selling sweets to the student body, Cutty had gotten rather used to arranging numbers. He'd also gotten rather quick and scrolling the complicated symbol for silver sickles. Maybe it was helpful here. The number arranging, not the sickle symbol.

MudInMyBlood 06-11-2014 12:46 PM

Not being able to answer the question of "what else" on the first attempt, AJ just kept quiet and tried to think of something to add, but how could you really do that when nothing was making sense to you at all? Who would have thought that she ever would have wished for regular muggle math again. Numbers were just numbers... why did they have to mean something more? She listened to everything the professor said and made notes, notes that she didn't understand of course.

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SEVEN: Odd number, so male
EIGHT: Even number, so female
NINE: Odd number, so male
That was the only thing that she was sure of. She knew that there was way more to it, but she was stumped. The first year turned to her textbook for guidance. Hopefully she could make some sense out of this!

Lolita Domingo 06-11-2014 03:09 PM

Miss Hapgood and Mr Hair were still discussing, though it appeared the Prefect was going to start pulling his weight a bit now. Finally, she thought. And from the look on Agatha's face, he may have actually written something intelligent. Score one for Ravenclaw. Mr Strand and Miss Abbott were also still discussing, though they seemed a bit further along. And Leah had spotted an error? Good catch. She decided to leave them be for now.

She was pleased when she looked at Mr Rehman's work. "Interesting thoughts about the twice and thrice characteristics. Now tell me what type of real life application those numbers could have, similar to how five and six were marriage and creation." In fact, when she came to her next student (Jasmine), she saw exactly what she had just been talking about. "Bueno. Now what other ways can be used to add or multiply to each number? That will give you more interpretations." And then there was Miss Petersfield.. Lolita was having trouble understanding her notes and the way her mind worked. She decided to just let her keep thinking.

Coming to the side of the room she next looked at what Mr Newell and Bean Girl were doing. "Your answers for 6 and 7 look solid. Why don't you give 8 and 9 a bit more thought?" They didn't look as complete as the other two, but they probably just hadn't finished yet. And she could definitely tell which parts were additions from Bean Girl. What a handful. It seemed that Miss Valentine nearby was not being sucked into the crazy, at least. "Good, now what about combining their characteristics?" Educated guesses, if nothing else.

Mr Mordaunt seemed to be looking for patterns in the actual combinations of numbers. "Interesting approach. I'll be curious to see what that yields." She liked the way his brain worked. And she also liked the other Mordaunt's (Ethan) answers for seven and eight. And apparently now both were teaming with Mr Holden, which would broaden the perspective of all three.

Next up was the Gryffindor Prefect, who appeared to have taken her slight encouragement to heart. "I see your own personal flair is involved in your interpretations. You're on the right track, Miss Cambridge." Maybe she should pair with Miss Aldrich or Miss Wayne, who seemed to be a bit behind in this particular task. Lolita decided not to suggest it, since it looked like one of them was already enlisting someone else's help.

"Keep thinking, estudiantes!"


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OOC: I will likely move on to the last bit of the lesson in about 20-24 hours.

Weasley174 06-11-2014 03:18 PM

Angel was totally lost here and the Professor had just stared at her work without talking about it, well she didn't care what this crazy Professor thought of her, she was going to do what she was doing and the Professor could either love it or hate it she didn't care what the Professor thought.

SPOILER!!: Work


Seven= It's an odd number, which means that it's good age to be.
Eight= You are a year older now congratulations.
Nine= The Germans say Nine for zero for some crazy reason, I'm still trying to figure out.


She was totally and utterly lost and would be speaking the Professor Bentley at the end of this lesson to see if Arithmancy was needed because she was starting to lose her marble with all this crazy numbers, give her muggle number lessons everyday.

MudInMyBlood 06-11-2014 04:17 PM

Snorts at all the bean talk, but for now my girl is in her own bubble. :)
 
Combining their characteristics? What characteristics? Like a characteristics of a boy and girl? She could do that. She eyed her sister and the look on her face showed that she was just as confused as she was. Maybe they should hold some kind of class for the kids who were first years who had no idea what was going on before they had to endure a real class. AJ thought that after the lesson she would have to find somebody who understood this rubbish and get them to put their heads together. The lion didn't really care about the subject, but it was frustrating her to no end that she was so lost.

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SEVEN: Odd number, so male, masculine, harmony
EIGHT: Even number, so female, feminine, loving
NINE: Odd number, so male, masculine, forceful
Okay so adding masculine and feminine didn't exactly add much considering that male and female already pretty much said that. Racking her brain she added a few more things to her notes. Remembering that the professor said something about love and harmony she decided to throw that in there too.

Anna Banana 06-11-2014 04:29 PM

Text Cut: Wood'sLittleFlower
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wood'sLittleFlower (Post 11624020)
There was hair pulling over here.

CB was tugging on the ends of her hair, frustrated and slightly confused. With a sigh, she stood up from her desk, and adjusted her toga before heading toward the front of the room to grab another kabob. Arithmancy was not her thing as she was slowly finding out.

On her way back to her seat, she nibbled at the kabob, almost dropping a piece in the process. She straightened her parchment tent as she wiggled into her seat and went back over her notes.

ONE: generator of all numbers, not actually considered a number; characterized reason What????
TWO: first female number; characterized opinion and division What does this mean??
THREE: first male number, combination via addition of 1 (unity) and 2 (division); characterized harmony I don't get this either.
FOUR: second female number, represented space and matter; characterized by justice and order Why do they have genders?
FIVE: union of first male and female numbers; characterized love and marriage They're not alive...
SIX: Product of two and three. First male and female numbers. New life is formed after marriage. Creation????
SEVEN: ????
EIGHT: ????
NINE: ????
TEN: unites 1, 2, 3, and 4, represents the idea of everything; characterized by the cosmos??????


She desperately wanted something to chew on, to calm her nerves. Apparently she wasn't as prepared as she thought she was and attempted to hide her notes under her arms whenever the professor got too close. Heh.

Desperate for some help, CB tapped the girl who happened to be sitting in front of her (Sophie) on the shoulder with the feathery end of her quill, making sure the glittery pink ink didn't drip in the process.

"What did you get?" 'Cause i've got nothing.



Sophie glanced up as the professor verified that what she'd wrote down so far was correct. Cool. So at least she didn't have to redo what she'd already done and could just go from there. She was actually surprised she'd managed to do so well so far. Usually, this subject was one of the three she wasn't so great in.

She copied down a few more things onto her parchment:

ONE: generator of all numbers, not actually considered a number; characterized reason
TWO: first female number; characterized opinion and division
THREE: first male number, combination via addition of 1 (unity) and 2 (division); characterized harmony
FOUR: second female number, represented space and matter; characterized by justice and order
FIVE: Five is a combination of two plus three, and since two is a female number and three is a male number, I think five could represent love. It sort of makes sense to me, since we weren't told that we could also combine 1 and 4 to equal 5. It's like we purposely added just the female plus male numbers. <333
TEN: Ten is a combination of ALL the numbers listed above. We were told it comes from adding combinations of 1, 2, 3, and 4, and since we also got to 5 by adding 2 and 3, I think ten means EVERYTHING. So it would equal reason (1), opinion/division (2), harmony (3), justice/order (4), and love (5).

SIX (2x3): Represents creation, new life formed after marriage.

SEVEN:
EIGHT:
NINE:


She started to dip her quill in ink when she felt a tap on her shoulder. Oh, heyyy--a partner! Yeah, she needed one of those in one of her worst subjects. She slid her parchment closer to the girl, so she could see Sophie's answers for the first part. "The professor said these were right," she said, pointing to the top of her parchment. "Let me see what I can come up with for seven, eight, and nine."

She turned around and started jotting down a few things.

FireboltAvis88 06-11-2014 04:48 PM

Leah
 
SPOILER!!: Leah
Quote:

Originally Posted by nanyjj (Post 11624088)

Cris' notes were fascinating up close. That was all Leah felt at first, staring at all those words. "Uh huh," she said, reading about 5 and 10. "Oh, so adding the two numbers add the characteristics too." Well that bit was easy. Professor Domino (the second year still could not get her name right) came and gave Cris a hint. An event in life. Balanced out with harmony... marriage? Just as Leah was about to say it out loud, her partner had said her thoughts out. "Yeah, I agree. Perfect harmony makes marriage." Also the two plus three.

Moving on to ten, the girl listened to Cris speak. "Reason, opinion, division, unity, harmony, space and matter, justice and order? That's like, everything." she commented, before the older Badger continued. She nodded. "Understood." The Greeks were weird, though.

Professor Domino's explanation proved them correct! Or nearly correct, anyway. Not understanding why a number representing EVERYTHING actually existed, Leah scribbled down her thoughts.
SPOILER!!: Notes about 7, 8, 9
7 - 3+4 Male. Harmony, justice and order.
8 - 4+4 Female. Double justice and order.
9 - 3*3 Male. Triple harmony

Haha. But not bad considering that it was Leah Abbott writing down notes. The girl waited a bit for Cris who was writing an awful lot. Finally when she passed him her notes with a "Mine's really bad, trust me." she was again surprised by his notes. "Um, I don't mean to criticize or anything, but isn't the product or 3 and 4 twelve?" the second year asked, pointing at his description of 7. Moving on to the other numbers, she nodded. "I feel sorry for number 9." Sad face cue.



Cris checked what he had written down, when Leah pointed out his conclusions for the number 7. "My bad, it's supposed to be a combinatiion of both 3 and 4 not a product of 3 and 4, so that would add up to seven. Thanks for pointing that out to me. Here let me correct that," Cris thanked Leah and he took back his journal and corrected what he had written down before turning to read Leah's answers.

As he read, something else popped in to his head, so he decided to mention it to Leah.

"Your conclusions make a lot of sense. I noticed that about the number 9 and that it should logically be 3 times the harmony, but what does that mean? Universal harmony? I just doesn't make sense at all. And I was thinking, since 7 has the characteristics of 3 and 4, could one of its characteristics be peace too? You know justice, order and harmony combined? Let me go through my answer for 7 and 9 and revise it a little."

Text Cut: Cris' possible answers

7 - odd, male number. Product Combination of 3 (harmony) and 4 (justice and order). Considered mystical. There are 7 days in a week before we start back to day 1. Represents change, life growth and development. Characterized life, anddestiny and peace.
8 - even, female number. Figure 8 looks like a woman. Number is sacred because it is the only evenly-even number. That is the number 8 is a product of 2 4's, the 4's a product of 2 2's and the 2's the product of 2 1's. Combination of 4 (justice and order) or 2 (harmony) or 1 (reason). Characterized law, prudence and counsel.
9 - odd, male number. 9 months of pregnancy, the gestational period. Is the first square number 3x3 (harmony thrice-fold). Is also the last number before the infinite number, 10. Nothing can come after that. It is just one short of the perfect number. Limited by one number. Can't go past 10. Represents limitations and boundaries. Characterized, failure and shortcomings.


"So how does this look now?" Cris pulled over his journal to show Leah his revised answers.

Watson 06-11-2014 05:08 PM

Cutty & Ethan!
 
SPOILER!!: Ethan
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mordred (Post 11624037)
The Slytherin nodded back at the professor and examined his answer. Well, that worked and was pleased himself. The better news? He can get more kebabs. But yeah, maybe in a little while, he’d go savor his little achievement first, because learning Arithmancy is a bit of a challenge, no?

The explanation was revealed shortly, and Ethan nodded in understanding as he copied the exact answer for Five and Ten. Well, he’s close all right, and that was good. At least his answer didn’t come straight from a textbook. That even made him feel smarter and whatnot. Moving on!

Whaaaaaat?

More numbers??? The Slytherin scrunched up his nose as he re-read the writings on the board. Six is the product of the male and female number, which could only mean a first born child, correct? But what about numbers seven to nine? Seriously? Ethan controlled himself not to do a head desk, instead, he concentrated on the smell of food. Yes. That should be enough to drive his brain to work, no? And so…more experimenting happened.

Scribble, scribble, scribble. Head scratch. Scribble, scribble, scribble.

SPOILER!!: Ethan’s Deduction

Six (Creation) = Two(First female number)* Three(First male number)
Seven (Tolerance / Family) = Four (Space & Matter or Creation) + Three (Harmony) OR Five (Love & Marriage) + Two (Opinion & Division) OR Six (Creation) + One (Reason)
Eight (Control or…Authority?) = Five (Love & Marriage) + Three (Harmony) OR Four (Justice and Order) * Two (Opinion + Division) OR Seven (Tolerance / Family) + One (Reason)
Nine (Understanding / Justice?) = Three (Harmony) * Three (Harmony) OR Five (Love & Marriage) + Four (Justice & Order) OR Seven (Family / Tolerance) + Two (Opinion and Division) OR Eight (Control / Authority) + One (Reason)
Ten (Perfect Number)


“This is crazy stuff.” Ethan thought as he cradled his head while writing his interpretation. Stuff’s hard, you see? The Slytherin put his quill down, got up and got himself some more veggie kebabs. Analysing stuff that he doesn’t know makes his stomach protest for food. Besides, growing kid. As he munched happily on his food, Ethan nudged Simon and gestured the boy to let him see his notes. Sharing is caring…and he just might get something more sensible from his fellow snake. He too, turned to Cutty who’s just behind him. “Watcha got, Mordaunt?” Three heads are better than two. See? That even seemed relevant in Arithmancy. Three is greater than two. Heh. As Ethan took a peek, the Slytherin choked at Cutty’s work. Cough, Cough, Cough. “Are you Pythagoras’ decendant???” Those numbers just looked…intimidating for the boy. Yup.



SPOILER!!: Cutty
Quote:

Originally Posted by SlytherinSistah (Post 11624050)
"Juh..!", But before Cutty could get the word out, Simon had already uttered it. Too eerie. For the first time in his life, Cutty's face mirrored that of the person with whom he was communicating quite unintentionally. Wide-eyed suspicion.

It had suddenly faded, however to blank consideration as he looked down at his dormmates notes. "I was lookin' for a pattern. Trying to see if it mattered which numbers we combined to arrive at 7-9's numerical vibration. What I see is that the first three numbers are found by combining 1 with other numbers, then the next three are found by combining 2. Like, 2 plus 3 is five and 2 times 3 gives us 6 and so on. So I was wondering if the next set would be combinations of 3 or perhaps 5." He took a blank sheet of parchment and demonstrated for his dormmate just what he meant.


"If that's the case, then I think you'd be close with your answer for 9. Only, you've got the meanings for 4 and 6, which gives us 10." He spoke casually, though. Not his usual judgey self. Or he was holding it all in, as he was prone to rudeness. "I think you meant 5, anyway. Which gives us..."



"But if there is a pattern with 3, then maybe 9 might be..."


Cutty looked to his dormmate to try and glean anything of comprehension, although to his weak amygdala he was more likely trying to read an expression that suggested he was being followed or believed.


Oh pattern hunting! thought Simon. That made sense. That was probably the most logical approach to it all. Before Simon could respond to let Cutty know if he were following him, Ethan had nudged him. Good, Ethan was joining. The three of them would be able to tackle this problem together. Teamwork was always good. Simon passed his notebook back to Ethan for a second with a quick, "I'm not sure if anything is right there, but that's where I was starting from. What did you deduce?" he asked with a friendly grin. He nodded again. "Seriously, he probably has a secret time turner that's allowed him to travel back in time and learn this art from the real people who invented it," teased Simon playfully before becoming more serious. " He's a genius."

Now back to Cutty. He nodded again. "I see what you're saying that makes more sense.. Yes, I did mean five," said Simon turning a hue of pink with embarrassment. He crossed that note out. *Ahem*. Right, now where were they? "That was an interesting observation perhaps... If the pattern was three, then the pattern could be 3 plus 5 plus 1 or it could be 2 plus 1 plus six...?" He raised an eyebrow. He thought perhaps he was following his friend. He jotted down some notes.

Hmmmm...

keepmeclose22 06-11-2014 05:39 PM

Austin looked over his notes and took what the professor had to heart. He decided to think about the other aspect of it, the math side. Well, Six had a lot of numbers that could add into it, so does Eight. On his paper, he wrote down all the addition combinations next to his already written notes.

SPOILER!!: notes
Quote:

6: First born child; creation -5+1, 4+2, 3+3
7: First house; living, or life - 6+1, 5+2, 4+3
8: Second born child; creation...again? - 7+1, 6+2, 5+3, 4+4
9: First grandparent; Elderly - 8+1, 7+2, 6+3, 5+4


With this, Austin tried to find all the ways that they could be combined. He had already covered the human aspect, now for the 'cosmos' aspect, as he called it. He decided to start with six. Five meant marriage, while one meant unity. Maybe the unity of marriages? This leads him back to a child, so he thought he was okay on that one. Four meant Justice, while two meant opinion. Combining those two could mean the opinion on justice? But that didn't make any sense. Adding two threes together meant extra Harmony. So maybe that means there's Harmony between a family that has opinions on how to discipline their first born child.

Seven. He wasn't entirely sure what six was, so he wasn't going to worry about the addition of six and one right now. The next option would be five and two. Five, again, was marriage, while two was opinion. With what he already had, maybe seven was the choice of two married people who want to have a second child. The only thing he could pick up from the next addition of numbers was that seven was both discipline and harmony, which should be good between married people.

Eight. The addition of seven and one, and six and two he disregarded, for he wasn't entirely sure what seven or six was. So he focused on the latter two. Five and three would be the Harmony between two people who are married. While the two fours meant extra Discipline, which he wasn't too sure about. He'd have to check that out later.

Nine. The only one he really could work with was five and four. Which he gathered was something along the lines of marriage and discipline. He wasn't sure what that meant. Maybe discipline in a marriage?

He was starting to get flustered with all of these possibilities, and he wasn't sure what to do. So he wrote down what he could, and waited for the professor to continue.

SPOILER!!: updated notes
Quote:

6: First born child; creation -5+1, 4+2, 3+3
-Extra Harmony and Justice
7: First house; living, or life - 6+1, 5+2, 4+3
-Discipline and Harmony
8: Second born child; creation...again? - 7+1, 6+2, 5+3, 4+4
Extra Discipline and Harmony
9: First grandparent; Elderly - 8+1, 7+2, 6+3, 5+4
-Marriage and Discipline


Anna Banana 06-11-2014 06:12 PM

Sophie squinted her eyes at her parchment, not because she couldn't see what she'd written, but because she was thinking hard about what the answers might be. Finally, she put her quill to her parchment and jotted down a few ideas.

ONE: generator of all numbers, not actually considered a number; characterized reason
TWO: first female number; characterized opinion and division
THREE: first male number, combination via addition of 1 (unity) and 2 (division); characterized harmony
FOUR: second female number, represented space and matter; characterized by justice and order
FIVE: Five is a combination of two plus three, and since two is a female number and three is a male number, I think five could represent love. It sort of makes sense to me, since we weren't told that we could also combine 1 and 4 to equal 5. It's like we purposely added just the female plus male numbers. <333
TEN: Ten is a combination of ALL the numbers listed above. We were told it comes from adding combinations of 1, 2, 3, and 4, and since we also got to 5 by adding 2 and 3, I think ten means EVERYTHING. So it would equal reason (1), opinion/division (2), harmony (3), justice/order (4), and love (5).

SIX (2x3): Represents creation, new life formed after marriage.

SEVEN: Maybe seven is a combination of two and five. Two means opinion and division, while five means marriage. Maybe seven means being able to keep your individuality (uniqueness) despite becoming one with someone else. Kind of like being true to yourself.
EIGHT: I don't think we'd get too much by adding four to itself, so I think eight is a combination of three and five. Three means harmony and five means marriage, so I think eight means learning to live with the person you married (living in harmony) and getting along with them. Maybe it means you work together to have a happy life.
NINE: Maybe nine is a combination of three and six. Three means harmony and six means new life, so maybe this is the decision to have a second child. Or maybe it means a new life together as a husband, wife, and child.


She turned around to her partner and showed her what she'd come up with. "What do you think about this?" she asked, pointing to the seven, eight, and nine. Also... "I'm Sophie, by the way."

hermionesclone 06-11-2014 06:45 PM

Keep trying? Was he THAT bad at this?!

One look a the board told him yes.

Jeez. This was freaking difficult. The fourteen year old propped his elbow on the table and placed his chin in the palm of his hands. A scowl crossed his face as his blue eyes fixed themselves on the scribbles that were meant to be his notes. Uh huh. Difficult. Really difficult. How in the name of merlin were people guessing this stuff correctly? And was it just that? Guesswork?

He needed a break, man.

Rubbing his left temple, the boy picked up his quill again, crossed out his answers for numbers five and ten and then scribbled down the right ones. These notes were steadily getting messier and messier but Grayson reaaaaaally didn't care about that. Not even a smidgen. The bit about number six was scribbled down, too. Uh huh.

Quote:

SEVEN: sum of one, two and four; reason + opinion and division + justice and order = a really smart or witty kid, probably. Maybe they need to learn how to use their brains properly. Isn't this a powerful number?
SEVEN: sum of three and four; harmony + justice and order = THIS could be about the greater good
EIGHT: sum of three and five; harmony + love and marriage = babies. OR it could mean a great life. Good for you.
EIGHT: product of two and four; opinion and division x justice and order = compromise?
NINE: sum of four and five; justice and order + love and marriage = a very political relationship from the sounds of it. OR love within the workplace. OR some sort of unity.
NINE: three x three; harmony x3 = LOTS of harmony. Or there'll be difficult times ahead and you'll need to gather up all the harmony you can.
Yeaaaaaaaaaah................... this was NOT his subject.

'Least the kebabs were great.

FearlessLeader19 06-11-2014 06:59 PM

Adi nodded at Professor Domingo after she spoke. Okay. Back to more thinking. He studied his answers as he tried to come up with real life applications for the numbers. Once again, he began making adjustments:

SPOILER!!: Adi's Parchment
SEVEN: (4+3) Male kid. Will have a combination of harmony, justice and order as traits. This possibly means Peace.
Eight: (4+4) Female kid. Will have twice the traits of justice and harmony. This possibly means cohesion.
NINE: (3*3) Male kid. Will have thrice the trait of harmony. This possibly means love.


Okay, Professor Domingo. Is this any better? Adi seriously hoped so.

ArianaBlack 06-11-2014 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squishy (Post 11623798)
Oh, hello there! Smiling at Zander as he joined her, Lux nodded. She definitely needed a partner because this subject was so hard. Numbers were so very confusing. Looking at his notes, she could see that he was on the same track as her. "We are both on the same page with that... And apparently wrong." Sigh. The Professor was speaking again, and confusing her even more.

they needed to work out the meanings of MORE numbers? Seriously?! Mentally groaning, Lux supposed that it was good she had a partner for this. "Let's get started then."

SPOILER!!: Board notes for reference
ONE: generator of all numbers, not actually considered a number; characterized reason
TWO: first female number; characterized opinion and division
THREE: first male number, combination via addition of 1 (unity) and 2 (division); characterized harmony
FOUR: second female number, represented space and matter; characterized by justice and order
FIVE: union of first male and female numbers; characterized love and marriage
TEN: unites 1, 2, 3, and 4, represents the idea of everything; characterized by the cosmos


Zander gave Lux the best smile he could muster under the circumstances. Ugh. It's hard to try to be happy when you're being bogged down with all this number nonsense. SERIOUSLY, WHAT WAS THIS WOMAN EVEN TALKING ABOUT ANYMORE!? Yeah, Zander's lost. Really lost. And apparently so was Lux.

"Hm... Okay, uh seven, eight, and nine?" he thought outloud. Well he looked at Lux with a perplexed face. "So seven and nine are males?" he questioned more than he stated. "Which leaves eight to be a female?" That's all he really new according to Professor, Professor over there.

The third year began scribbling down on his pair quite vigorously.

SPOILER!!: Attempt at this number mumbo jumbo

Seven: Male; 3 (harmony) + 4 (Justice and Order) ; 1 (Unity) + 2 (Opinion) + 4 (Harmony) + 2 (Opinion) + 5 (Love) ;

Eight: Female; 4 (harmony) + 4 (harmony) ; 4 (harmony) x 2 (Opinion and Division)

Nine: 3 (Harmony) x 3 (Harmony) ; 1 (Unity) + 3 (Harmony) + 5 (Love) ; 4 (Justice) +5 (Love)


"Uh, that's all I've got?" He said as he showed Lux his notes. He could figure out the whole what numbers add and multiply, but the whole what they all mean together thing was completely lost on him.

WhittyBitty 06-11-2014 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArianaBlack (Post 11624285)
SPOILER!!: Board notes for reference
ONE: generator of all numbers, not actually considered a number; characterized reason
TWO: first female number; characterized opinion and division
THREE: first male number, combination via addition of 1 (unity) and 2 (division); characterized harmony
FOUR: second female number, represented space and matter; characterized by justice and order
FIVE: union of first male and female numbers; characterized love and marriage
TEN: unites 1, 2, 3, and 4, represents the idea of everything; characterized by the cosmos


Zander gave Lux the best smile he could muster under the circumstances. Ugh. It's hard to try to be happy when you're being bogged down with all this number nonsense. SERIOUSLY, WHAT WAS THIS WOMAN EVEN TALKING ABOUT ANYMORE!? Yeah, Zander's lost. Really lost. And apparently so was Lux.

"Hm... Okay, uh seven, eight, and nine?" he thought outloud. Well he looked at Lux with a perplexed face. "So seven and nine are males?" he questioned more than he stated. "Which leaves eight to be a female?" That's all he really new according to Professor, Professor over there.

The third year began scribbling down on his pair quite vigorously.

SPOILER!!: Attempt at this number mumbo jumbo

Seven: Male; 3 (harmony) + 4 (Justice and Order) ; 1 (Unity) + 2 (Opinion) + 4 (Harmony) + 2 (Opinion) + 5 (Love) ;

Eight: Female; 4 (harmony) + 4 (harmony) ; 4 (harmony) x 2 (Opinion and Division)

Nine: 3 (Harmony) x 3 (Harmony) ; 1 (Unity) + 3 (Harmony) + 5 (Love) ; 4 (Justice) +5 (Love)


"Uh, that's all I've got?" He said as he showed Lux his notes. He could figure out the whole what numbers add and multiply, but the whole what they all mean together thing was completely lost on him.

Lux was relieved that she wasn't the only person who was clear
Y confused by this lesson. Whatever this Professor was trying to get at was lost on her. But yes, Zander seemed correct in the genders of the numbers, so that got him another nod from her.

Looking at his notes, she saw all the math work and tried to make sense of it. So the meanings were gathered from combining the meanings of other numbers? Was that how this worked? "Maybe Seven means harmony, justice and order." The other combinations he did could work, but that seemed the easiest since it only involved adding 3 and 4 together. "Maybe Eight is Four but extra powerful. Because I'm not sure about harmony and division working together." Unless that made sense after all; in that case just ignore her. "For Nine, I like unity, harmony, and love because it seems the most romantic of the options." Every once in a while this Puff liked romance, so 1 + 3 + 5 seemed like the best option to her.

oh its Erik ok 06-11-2014 10:22 PM

Now his marginally good work was getting criticized by someone 3/4 years younger than him. Just his luck. Not that anything she was saying was wrong or anything. And was that a surprised look on her face. At least one of his answers was clever.

"Yeah, i did not think you could just do three times three. Since it is just multiplying harmony...So yeah probably just means a good relationship. Married or not, if doing three times three"

Shrug.

That was just a guess.

ArianaBlack 06-12-2014 12:47 AM

SPOILER!!: Partner! aka LUXXX
Quote:

Originally Posted by Squishy (Post 11624297)
Lux was relieved that she wasn't the only person who was clear
Y confused by this lesson. Whatever this Professor was trying to get at was lost on her. But yes, Zander seemed correct in the genders of the numbers, so that got him another nod from her.

Looking at his notes, she saw all the math work and tried to make sense of it. So the meanings were gathered from combining the meanings of other numbers? Was that how this worked? "Maybe Seven means harmony, justice and order." The other combinations he did could work, but that seemed the easiest since it only involved adding 3 and 4 together. "Maybe Eight is Four but extra powerful. Because I'm not sure about harmony and division working together." Unless that made sense after all; in that case just ignore her. "For Nine, I like unity, harmony, and love because it seems the most romantic of the options." Every once in a while this Puff liked romance, so 1 + 3 + 5 seemed like the best option to her.



Zander tried to encourage Lux with small nods as she spoke. It really sounded like she was unsure of herself too. Was Arithmancy just like not a third year thing? The small boy looked around the room to try to see if everyone else was just as lost. Most people looked busy at works, so either they all got it and Zander missed something important OR everyone else was just really good at faking it. Probably the latter. Annnyyyways, back to this number nonsense.

The third year nodded as he jotted down what she said by underlining the favorited options. Then he looked back at his parchment and decided to scribble some more down too. "I added a few possible meanings for the number nine?" he told Lux quietly. "I'm not sure if I'm even close.... But what do you think?" He added. Hopefully she'd have some more ideas because at this rate Zander was running out.

SPOILER!!: Updated Notes for the Clueless

Seven:Male;
3 (harmony) + 4 (Justice and Order) ;
1 (Unity) + 2 (Opinion) + 4 (Harmony) ;
2 (Opinion) + 5 (Love) ;

Eight: Female;
4 (harmony) + 4 (harmony) ; Like 4, but twice as powerful because it's doubled
4 (harmony) x 2 (Opinion and Division) ;

Nine: Male;
3 (Harmony) x 3 (Harmony) ; Lot's of Harmony (??)
1 (Unity) + 3 (Harmony) + 5 (Love) ; Romantic // Very peaceful
4 (Justice) + 5 (Love) ; Will to fight for what they love (??)
3 (Harmony) + 6 (New Life) ; The harmony of the marriage will bring about another child (??)


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