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oh its Erik ok 07-22-2013 01:03 PM

Nigel raised his hand at the question. He did not really like talking about what goes on at his house. But it was true that he had a house elf.

"We have one.Does the housework, keeps secrets and is an excellent cook."

He does basically everything Nigel said before. But also keeps the family secrets. So he will probably never be freed. Though Nigel would know why he would want freedom. His family treats him well at the house.

hermionesclone 07-22-2013 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Emzily (Post 11396585)
Theo never really felt excited about History of Magic, but he was in a great mood today. His dodgy tummy had passed, so he put it down to that. It was nice to have a FREEEEEE STOMACH. With a spring in his step, Theo took a seat at the front of the classroom, immediately appreciating how clean it was. It was usually always clean, though, just saying that Theodore appreciated it, yup. The professor wasn't here yet, so Theo thought it was totally okay for some chit-chat.

He sat next to ALEC and smiled. "Morning!"

Maybe HoM would involve ice cream TOO....

... Theo sure hoped so.

Oh?

OH?

Alec was surprised. But pleasantly surprised. Theo had come to sit next to him! THEO! After everything that had happened and... Alec GRINNED. "Morning!" he chirped, sitting up a little straighter. How AWESOME was this?

Now... the big question was... to hug or not hug? HMMMM...

He sort of stretched his hand behind his head and was about to use 'the move' to side!hug the Slytherin sitting next to him when...


Text Cut: Vinteren!
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Originally Posted by Erik Vinteren (Post 11396792)
"I trust you all are doing vell..." he eyed their shiny faces, some of which looked exceptionally happy. Heh. "To begin today's lesson, tell me vhat you know, everything you know, about house elves."

Yes, house elves. Those creatures that had been noticeably absent from the kitchens this term. What did they know or think about house elves?

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Originally Posted by Erik Vinteren (Post 11396896)
"Does anyone in here haff a house elf in his/her family? Or more vhan one elf?" He was curious to see a show of hands...and the responses to his follow-up questions. Surely the students could tell them more about the creatures that lived in their own homes and up until this year, had taken care of them in this very castle...



... Vinteren strolled in.

Erm... Awkward. His hand found his hair and he ruffled it instead, his eyes glued on the History of Magic Professor. The man had asked a question about house elves but Alec was too busy... ruffling... his hair.

... Okay, he had to stop. NOW. Just in time for Vinteren's next question.

Did he have a house elf? "Erm... we don't have one in the Summers household," Because, well, his Dad wasn't exactly magical. It would just be weird. "And Professor? Don't they usually work for old wizarding families?" And were there still that many old wizarding families around? And if there weren't... did that mean that not many house elves were in employment? Especially since the ones that had been at Hogwarts, apart from Toddles, were gone too. Or... was he just thinking too much on this?

It was probably the last one.

Kimothy 07-22-2013 02:50 PM

Question 1 and 2
 
So... uhm. House Elves. What were house elves? What did they do? Why do they have such not-so cute names? So many mysteries in life that included house elves. Kat did know a few information about those creatures, especially since she used to deal with them in this castle. This term, they didn't have much of them and only one of them seemed to have stayed behind to help them in here. Hand up, Kat was ready to answer. "They're super loyal to their master... and like Alice and the others said, house elves can only be freed if their master presents them with any type of clothing." But somehow Kat wasn't too convinced by the 'loyalty' part because if they really were... where in Merlin's beard did the other Hogwarts elves go?

Logical question. They can't just retire like what they claimed in the Daily Prophet. Hmm.

Moving on to the next question... "We don't have a house elf, Sir," Kat said with her hand raised. Because that was what they were supposed to do, right? Raise their hand when they answer? "My aunt does, though. It does the chores and helps the family members out with whatever they can offer." Typical house elf.

Uncle Moose 07-22-2013 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Erik Vinteren (Post 11396896)
"Does anyone in here haff a house elf in his/her family? Or more vhan one elf?" He was curious to see a show of hands...and the responses to his follow-up questions. Surely the students could tell them more about the creatures that lived in their own homes and up until this year, had taken care of them in this very castle...

Oakey kept quite for the first question that Vinteren asked, his mind wandered and someone clung to thoughts of Kurumi and her obsession with the Elves in Hogwarts."My Family used to own one. Cheez, was under servitude to Grampy Gunter until he passed. Then she was meant to serve under my Guardian but he freed her instead." Had he just openly called a man he never met in his life Grampy? Well that was a first.

AlwaysSnapesGirl 07-22-2013 02:52 PM

So now the question went to who had one in their family. Penelope mentally debated for a moment whether to answer this one. Her grandparents had them, but she didn't really feel like talking about them...but then again, she wouldn't be talking about them, just their house elves. And the elves were some of the only things she liked about that house, since they were actually nice to her and all that. So she finally raised her hand. "My grandparents have a few."

Talikins 07-22-2013 03:01 PM

Someone was in a good mood today. Ness gave Minnie wide smiles and was about to greet her back, but it was then Professor Vinteren entered the classroom. Focus on him, the red head shifted away from looking at Minnie and then took out some parchment and quills in case notes were needed, but apparently not yet.

At the first question there was only one thing Nessie wanted to say, but then she didn't want to say and clearly because it wouldn't or more like didn't make much sense. She wanted to mention that she thought house elves looked dirty, but looked not were because if they were then of course people wouldn't have used them like they did. It was probably their skin or something, but Ness always felt grossed out when those creatures were near, not that she ever complained much because they WERE useful and she did miss them cleaning her clothing as well as cooking her food.

Considering she was quiet for the first question, Ness half answered the second one by shaking her head. For some reason she was a quiet one today, but she had to admit she was tempted to ask Vinteren if he had an elf of his own. You know, curiosity killed the cat though.

pundantic 07-22-2013 03:21 PM

House Elves.

It was kind of wrong, yeah? Why were they even talking about them? Jeez. That was something that always made his head spin about magic. For such an ADVANCED society they were still making a group enslaved. Way to go witches and wizards of JERKDOM. Pfft.

So he wasn't going to answer either question put out there. Also, he didn't own a house elf. Prior to getting any magical letter he hadn't even known they existed. Also, no way the home could afford one. Government funded that place.

StarShine 07-22-2013 03:52 PM

Loyal? Loyal?! Forrest wanted to LAUGH at those who said loyal. Laugh BITTERLY too. So far, the house-elves had been the most disloyal creatures he had met in this world. But who cared as long as there was ice-cream? Ice-cream... he needed that...

Back to the class.

He raised his hand in the air to answer. "There must be several breeds though, since Hogwarts elves aren't very loyal." He still wasn't impressed with them at all.

Erik Vinteren 07-22-2013 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TakemetotheBurrow (Post 11396901)
"They're loyal to their masters, Sir." And lots of others had touched on that as well. It was a sad thing, though, the way they were bound to their masters. Ella couldn't imagine having to do everything someone told her to and then feeling the urge to harm herself if she messed said thing up. It just didn't sit well with her.

"Yes, vhey are. And who, generally speaking, are vhe masters of house elves?" She didn't have to answer this question as Erik was fairly certain everyone in the classroom knew the answer, but he asked it anyway.

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Originally Posted by LilFox06 (Post 11396903)
She blinked those thoughts away. She raised her hand slowly. "My brother has one." she said.

...really, golden boy Carter Phillips, quidditch man-child extraordinaire, owned a house elf? Vinteren blinked for a moment at this revelation and then gave Anya a nod.

"Interesting."

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Originally Posted by DaniDiNardo (Post 11396909)
That one was a no brainer as well. "We don't have any at home, Daddy wants one but my step-mum freaks out about everything magic. My grandparents do though!!! They have three really nice ones that make me cookies and sneak me sugar when my grandmum isn't looking." In exchange for her leaving them alone of course.

And somewhere in that rambly answer was a confirmation of Alexa's family owning elves. "Okay good, vhank you Alexa," Erik cut her off before she could go on about sugar and elves.

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Originally Posted by Bazinga (Post 11396911)
She looked around the room with his next question. Of course she didn't have any since her mother pretended to be a muggle and her father was a muggle. She grew up muggleborn basically, but Ethan had an elf and that elf hated her being in the kitchen.... It was like offended when she would try to cook or something. "I don't have one, but my boyfriends family does and I've noticed they are very protective of their job. I love to cook and he doesn't like me in the kitchen, because it's his job." She hated that he felt that way, she would cook for him as well if he would let her.

Very protective of their job. "Good," Erik nodded to the Hufflepuff. "House elves only haff so many duties to complete and believe vhey are being insulted vhen wizards try to take vhose away from vhem."

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Originally Posted by lemon (Post 11396912)
She got a 'very good' from the pretty professor AND her own question? Alice ignored the wince and grinned, baring all her pointy pearly whites at the man in a huge smile. He was even making eye contact, first time ever. His eyes, those were really pretty too, did he know? "Um, usually discarded household items, rather than clothing, 'cause that's what's used to free them and they'd consider it shameful." Did he need more elaboration?

"Like pillowcases, tea cozies, towels.." Was that good enough? Could she have more praise?

She was flashing her teeth at him. Oh no, no no no. Erik had heard things about this Gryffindor's teeth...if he was a wise man he would not encourage the girl to speak up any more, even if her answers were spot-on.

"Correct," he said simply, his eyes moving past her and on to the next person. Tea cosies and pillowcases were enough examples for him.

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Originally Posted by MaverickMagpie (Post 11396913)
Tobias grinned even wider. "Yeah! Like Dinky and Noodle and Wibble and Flakey and Jigglypuff," he rattled off excitedly, and then he even giggled slightly at what professor man said next. "My name is Tobias Nestor Tempus, sir. My name is funny to everyone."

But he accepted that.

He kinda sorta raised his hand again. "I don't, but my grandfather used to have at least one, and like his dad, and his dad's dad. I don't think they have one any more though because-"

Tobias stopped suddenly and bit his lip. He wasn't sure he wanted to share that particular piece of information and ended the sentence differently than originally intended, but still just as cheerful as before.

"-they just didn't want house elves any more. He told me loads about them though."

Okay, more examples. Examples were good...except Erik didn't find anything funny about the boy's name and merely blinked at all his cheerfulness. "Vhank you for sharing," he replied to him evenly. There was surely a story behind why the boy's family had gotten rid of their house elves but he wasn't sure they had time for it now.

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Originally Posted by Charely Potter (Post 11396955)
Instead, he wrote the confirmed and somewhat amusing facts down in his notebook..hmm.. wait, now there was one thing he didn't hear from the others yet, prompting his hand raising. "House elves deserve money for their work." Least that's how Wade figured.

Now this, this was an opinion, not a fact. Erik raised an eyebrow at the boy's answer. "Vhy do you believe vhat?" he countered his statement. "Do house elves vhemselves vant payment for vheir work?"

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Originally Posted by lazykitty (Post 11396956)
Yes, Sky had been here the entire time. But was also still determined to not be a parrot. So, she'd glossed right over the first question, letting the others repeat each other if they wished. But the second question, well that was more personal and she couldn't let the others answer for her. So, here it goes. "No, my family doesn't have any elves at home. We believe in the muggle way of doing things, unless it's a situation where it's to our benefit to use magic. Or in an emergency." Besides, using elves just meant you were arrogant and lazy.

This was an interesting answer, one Erik would have liked to poke at more. Was the girl saying that her family was a load of Muggles or did they not own house elves for moral reasons? "Vhank you for sharing," was all he said instead. They could delve more into the debate of owning house elves later.

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Originally Posted by Team ronmione (Post 11396958)
House elves had to follow orders from their owners, Tag knew that. Oh! And he knew something else about them. He wasn't sure if anyone else had given out this answer, so he raised his hand and said "They can only be freed if their owner gives them some sort of piece of clothing. Whatever it is." Otherwise, that basically meant 'no clothes, no freedom'. An that's such a shame to those poor house elves because, Tag wondered, who would, those who had house elves, be kind and considerate enough to give them some clothing. Hopefully some people did give their house elves clothing. He would. It just didn't seem right.

"Correct," Erik nodded to the small Gryffindor. Even a sock could free a slave, if given by the right person...

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Originally Posted by Govoni (Post 11396960)
Hmmm. Why was the Professor asking him that all quiet-like? Dylan just kinda looked at him curiously for a moment and then carried on with answering. "Well, yes, sir. It's in all the books...'.....any creature that has sufficient intelligence to understand the laws of the magical community and to bear part of the responsibility in shaping those laws'...House elves aren't stupid. They know our laws and their rights...but they still remain loyal to whatever families they serve..."

Seemed a little silly...but when the House Elf race had only known one way of living for so long...It had to be hard to accept change. "They also consider it disgraceful to get paid....or, at least, I'd read that somewhere."

"...And no, my family doesn't own House Elves. Their faces creep me out."

Erik listened respectfully to the Slytherin's answer before speaking. "Do house elves have some representation in vhe Ministry?" Erik was curious to see what he knew. "Vhe law says vhey have sufficient intelligence to know vheir rights, but why vhen do vhe elves not take advantage of vhem?"

Like he said, they considered it disgraceful to be paid...why was that? Erik looked to the rest of the class to see what they thought too.

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Originally Posted by CassiopeiaAKTF (Post 11397057)
So his answer was a direct and simple "No"

No house elves in this one's family. Okay then, Erik acknowledged him with a curt nod...

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Originally Posted by xXxPandora (Post 11397064)
When the man asked the class if they had house elves in their homes, she hesitated for a while. They didn't have one in their house, but her Grandmother did. With this, she raised her hand up in the air. "My family doesn't own a house elf sir, but my Grandmother does. Usually, she sends her house elf to clean my house at least thrice a week since no one is basically living there while I'm at school." She'd explain more on why no one else was living in that house but she didn't deem it necessary. Those who knew why would know why....and those who didn't....well, too bad for them.

Okay and another interesting personal student answer..."Vhat's kind of your grandmother, and her elf, to do..." Erik supposed.

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Originally Posted by Emzily (Post 11397069)
Theo didn't know MUCH about house elves, other than they were a little annoying. But they cooked the food and cleaned, so they weren't THAT bad. Hogwarts certainly seemed to have struggled without them this year. He raised his hand, "They speak in their own language." Kinda anyway.

Did they? Erik tilted his head to the side slightly and studied the Slytherin who had said this. "Vhat language is vhat, Mr. Kinsley? Care to give us an example?" Here he was, thinking all along that they spoke the language of their masters...

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Originally Posted by Tegz (Post 11397088)
As for house elves... West put his hand up. "We have one called Chaucer. He's been coming here and helping out a bit when my dad can spare him." He volunteered.

Chaucer, fascinating name for a house elf. Erik quite liked the name. "And vhat's nice of him to do. How long has Chaucer been vith your family?"

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Originally Posted by the fastest seeker (Post 11397097)
She stuck her hand up perkily and spoke, "My grandmother did have a house elf but she died," Cassia didn't remember much because she was like three years old. No one could have solid memories from that age?

But then she paused and added quickly, " The house-elf died not my grandmother," Just to clear everything out. Her grandma was VERY alive.

The house elf had died, not the grandmother...heh. Erik almost smiled at that. "Good to know, vhank you for sharing, Cassia."

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Originally Posted by jrtpuplvr (Post 11397122)
Asher was surprised to hear that there were still families that had House Elves. He didn't think people did that anymore, large places like Hogwarts maybe, but not households. "We do not have a House Elf. My mom says that's why she has children. To do the chores around the house."

..."Vell, vhat a smart mother you haff." Erik's mouth was definitely curved into a smirk now.

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Originally Posted by Meizzner (Post 11397124)
Nigel raised his hand at the question. He did not really like talking about what goes on at his house. But it was true that he had a house elf.

"We have one.Does the housework, keeps secrets and is an excellent cook."

"Keeps vhe secrets...vhat is a good point to make about house elves..." Erik would know that they were excellent secret-keepers, all the more excellent because of their undying loyalty.

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Originally Posted by hermionesclone (Post 11397176)
Did he have a house elf? "Erm... we don't have one in the Summers household," Because, well, his Dad wasn't exactly magical. It would just be weird. "And Professor? Don't they usually work for old wizarding families?" And were there still that many old wizarding families around? And if there weren't... did that mean that not many house elves were in employment? Especially since the ones that had been at Hogwarts, apart from Toddles, were gone too. Or... was he just thinking too much on this?

It was probably the last one.

"Yes, vhey are typically found vorking for old wizarding families. Vhat is a good point to make, Mr. Summers." One he was surprised no one had brought up sooner.

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Originally Posted by PotterHeadforLife (Post 11397191)
"They're super loyal to their master... and like Alice and the others said, house elves can only be freed if their master presents them with any type of clothing." But somehow Kat wasn't too convinced by the 'loyalty' part because if they really were... where in Merlin's beard did the other Hogwarts elves go?

Logical question. They can't just retire like what they claimed in the Daily Prophet. Hmm.

Moving on to the next question... "We don't have a house elf, Sir," Kat said with her hand raised. Because that was what they were supposed to do, right? Raise their hand when they answer? "My aunt does, though. It does the chores and helps the family members out with whatever they can offer." Typical house elf.

"Good points to make," Erik replied to the first part of her answer. And to the second part, "Vhank you for sharing." Another one whose family had an elf. Interesting.

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Originally Posted by DJ ExpelliarMOOSE (Post 11397194)
Oakey kept quite for the first question that Vinteren asked, his mind wandered and someone clung to thoughts of Kurumi and her obsession with the Elves in Hogwarts."My Family used to own one. Cheez, was under servitude to Grampy Gunter until he passed. Then she was meant to serve under my Guardian but he freed her instead." Had he just openly called a man he never met in his life Grampy? Well that was a first.

Grumpy Gunter and Cheez the house elf...it was difficult not to smile at this answer too. But Erik instead gave the Head Boy a serious nod. "Vhank you for sharing, Oakey."

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSnapesGirl (Post 11397196)
So now the question went to who had one in their family. Penelope mentally debated for a moment whether to answer this one. Her grandparents had them, but she didn't really feel like talking about them...but then again, she wouldn't be talking about them, just their house elves. And the elves were some of the only things she liked about that house, since they were actually nice to her and all that. So she finally raised her hand. "My grandparents have a few."

"Vhank you for sharing..." Erik replied to the last student to volunteer out loud...oh, were there no more? No? Okay then, moving on...

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Originally Posted by Deniiz (Post 11397230)
Loyal? Loyal?! Forrest wanted to LAUGH at those who said loyal. Laugh BITTERLY too. So far, the house-elves had been the most disloyal creatures he had met in this world. But who cared as long as there was ice-cream? Ice-cream... he needed that...

Back to the class.

He raised his hand in the air to answer. "There must be several breeds though, since Hogwarts elves aren't very loyal." He still wasn't impressed with them at all.

To this. Erik couldn't have asked for a better transition than if he had paid the Hufflepuff boy to speak up.

"Vhy do you say vhat?" he inquired, fixing his blue eyes on the lad and standing up from his desk. He moved over to the chalkboard, his eyes sweeping the rest of the room, and then lazily pointed his wand at the board so it would start taking down their descriptions of house elves up to now.

"Does anyone really know vhy, or how Hogwarts' house elves came to be missing? Or vhere are vhey now?"

TakemetotheBurrow 07-22-2013 04:35 PM

Ella was just eyeing Vinteren curiously. She couldn't tell if the question he'd asked was rhetorical or not so she answered anyway, feeling like she was repeating information. "Old wizarding families, I'd think." Like...those were the people who usually had house elves, yeah? And Alec sort of said the exact same thing so the blonde nodded in agreement.

As for his next question, the sixteen year old raised her eyebrows. Surely if they were meant to know that kind of information they would, yeah? As for the house elves having gone missing...is that what they were? Ella's eyes widened a bit, suddenly alarmed. She'd assumed they were somewhere else working until they were called back to Hogwarts... "Toddles is still here, Professor. And a few other elves too. Perhaps the others have jobs elsewhere."

Felixir 07-22-2013 04:42 PM

Tobias raised his hand agaaaiiiiin. He'd been thinking about this since wayyyyyy back in like September or October when he'd talked about it to Forrest.

"Well... I don't know much about the house elves here or anything much about this school, but... well... they're not paid, are they? It's in their nature to like to work, so it's not like they're on strike or anything."

But he still couldn't think of an actual reason for the house elves to be gone. Oooooh, was he gonna learn where they were at today?

"Maybe they were elf-napped?"

AlwaysSnapesGirl 07-22-2013 04:44 PM

Now onto the elves at Hogwarts. Or the ones that used to be at Hogwarts since they weren't anymore since they went...missing? That was the word Mr. Vinteren had just used. Interesting...

Penelope raised her hand. "Toddles said that they said they had to leave for some reason, but they didn't really want to leave, especially since they had to leave him behind." So that was all she knew. Just what Toddles had told her when she and Alexa had talked to him earlier in the term. She still felt bad for the poor baby elf that he had to be left behind by those he considered his family. It was sad.

RachieRu 07-22-2013 04:49 PM

Hmm. Where were the elves now? Well. That was a kind of obvious question really. It was very clear where the house elves were. And it certainly was not at Hogwarts. With a little grin on his face Clement put his hand up into the air. "Not here...." He murmured with a little shrug. Well. it was true. The house elves weren't here. Though this probably was not the answer that the professor had been after. But oh well. Clement didn't know the answer, so this one would have to do.

Talikins 07-22-2013 04:51 PM

A question she could and would actually answer. Though she did think about it before really saying anything. First she thought of the money situation, but realised it made no sense considering that elves weren't ever really paid, but she still felt it had something to do with that. Maybe the cutlery...or maybe it had something to do with Truebridge...or the elves just looked unhygienic, cause they really did.

Hand raise and then pout before she opened her mouth to speak. "I think its something to do with the whole money situation, but not the money its self because they don't get paid." Did that even make sense? Maybe a little more rambling. "I think they left because of something related to that situation." A bit different to what the elves had told people themselves, but maybe Truebridge forced them to lie or something. You never knew.

DuckyLinJi 07-22-2013 04:59 PM

Leaning back in his chair, Daichi grabbed a piece of parchment and his fwooper quill before he began to doodle. He still listened to what the Professor was saying though, no worries~

"Maybe you did that, sir" made the house elves leave that is. Straight forward Daichi was straight forward :3 "Or maybe they wanted a new job" did it really matter? He would be gone this term anyways.

Emzily 07-22-2013 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Erik Vinteren (Post 11397232)
Did they? Erik tilted his head to the side slightly and studied the Slytherin who had said this. "Vhat language is vhat, Mr. Kinsley? Care to give us an example?" Here he was, thinking all along that they spoke the language of their masters...

"Does anyone really know vhy, or how Hogwarts' house elves came to be missing? Or vhere are vhey now?"

Errrrrrr... elfish?

No... really, he didn't know. Theo shrugged but said, "Well, they are still understandable, but it's like they speak like babies." He tried to think of an example, but he really didn't hold too many conversations with house elves. They were creepy. "Like, they always use their names instead of saying I." It made sense, but not really another language. Oh well.

MISSING?

"I thought they went on strike cos they weren't treated nicely." Because it wasn't a money thing since they don't get paid, right?

Uncle Moose 07-22-2013 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Erik Vinteren (Post 11397232)
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"Does anyone really know vhy, or how Hogwarts' house elves came to be missing? Or vhere are vhey now?"

It was really upsetting that the House Elves had to be let go, Poor Toodles must of worked his ears off picking up all the slack this term. "I'm not sure where they would be now." Unless Toodles did, and told someone. Did anyone actually know? "The House Elf Relocation Office in the Department of Regulation and Control of Magical Creatures must have played some part in finding the Elves new places to work."

Unless Truebridge just up and kicked them out to save money. In which case someone should report her for that.

Bazinga 07-22-2013 05:55 PM

Minerva listened to all the students and about their house elves. She still was smiling towards the professor. He was just super smart and she thought his lessons were so interesting. Plus again he agreed with what she had said. She looked curiously has he asked about the Hogwarts Elves. Well how would they know. They weren't told anything.. They still didn't have all the answers as to why Goblins came or why they were paying for everything, so how would they know about the elves.


Putting her hand up, "Professor, with all do respect. I'm not sure any of us can really answer that. It seems like no one really wants us to know what's going on. We got here and they were gone. I'm hoping they left on their own, but I don't think any of us can say for sure. It would be nice to know these answers along with a few others this term if you may know them." She gave him another smile hoping she didn't step over a line by asking, but she had to try if they could finally get some answers.

bitsyandtank 07-22-2013 06:25 PM

Since this was his first year at Hogwarts, he really had no idea what the House Elves were like or why they may have left. "Maybe the students were mean to them and they wanted new jobs? Or, we all ate too much and they got tired of cooking so often?"

Asher assumed that if the House Elves were still all around Hogwarts they wouldn't have to clean so much or do their own laundry. That would have been nice. Although, they probably wouldn't have eaten so much ice cream either. Not so nice.

DaniDiNardo 07-22-2013 06:26 PM

She didn't know where this class was going and she was quickly missing the point of all these questions but it was Mr. Vinteren so she wasn't about to complain or anything. Instead, she sat forward in her seat, trying to look attentive while ignoring her waning attention span.

Fooocus Lex.

"I don't know where exactly they've gone but when I was talking to Toddles he said that they left him behind and told him they had to go. But the way he told it...kinda made it seem like they didn't wanna go. I'm guessing they might have been kidnapped or forced by some others means away from the castle." That was what she and Penelope had thought when they heard it.

"He cries a lot now and doesn't get hugs, but I'm guessing they figured it'd be better for him to stay so I'm willing to assume they're somewhere terrible now."

All speculation though because she'd never bothered to looked into it more. Most of her focus was on the ice-cream.

Now she kinda felt bad for forgetting.

oh its Erik ok 07-22-2013 06:46 PM

Nigel had no idea what happened to the elves. Maybe they left to go on strike or the Ministry took them away because of poor working conditions. All Guesses. So Nigel did not have an answer since everyone else's suggestions seemed more plausible then whatever he was thinking of.

"That is a good question"

Nigel did not enjoy doing his own laundry. So the quicker the elves come back. The happier he will be.

pundantic 07-22-2013 07:21 PM

NO. Of course they didn't know where the elves had gotten to. Hence the word MISSING. It was almost like he was just asking questions to hear himself talk with the level of stupid that was floating around his head and every male Professor at this school. Women were a lot more articulate or at least more interesting to look at. Whatever.

And like every other question, Ascanius just wasn't going to answer. Jeez, ask a question that had some merit to it. Yeah?

Expecto-Penguin 07-22-2013 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Erik Vinteren (Post 11396896)
"Does anyone in here haff a house elf in his/her family? Or more vhan one elf?" He was curious to see a show of hands...and the responses to his follow-up questions. Surely the students could tell them more about the creatures that lived in their own homes and up until this year, had taken care of them in this very castle...

Kace raised his hand, "Professor my Aunt has an house elf in her family. He is really sweet though. I love spending time with him." Kace then remembered something else. "He always helps out with the cooking and cleaning when my family has parties." he nodded at that. He always wanted to help Twinky but he always rejected it...but *shrugs* at least he offered right?

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Originally Posted by Erik Vinteren (Post 11397232)
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"Does anyone really know vhy, or how Hogwarts' house elves came to be missing? Or vhere are vhey now?"

Wait....

The house elves were missing?? When did that happen. He seemed to see some around the school. He didn't know more was missing. Interesting news to Kace's brain. He had NO idea why they went missing but he had a few ideas were they could be.....

He heard Oakey's answer and that seemed legit. So the ministry was helping them find jobs. That was good news too! Twinky was still at his Aunt's house since she was pureblood and Twinky was a family elf.

"Well Professor i know house elves stay with their family members, so maybe that is where some of them have gone?" Kace suggested.

StarShine 07-22-2013 09:25 PM

Why would he say that? To Forrest it was the MOST obvious thing: house elves were supposed to be loyal, but he had yet to see any more than three at the castle. So they weren't very loyal after all. Maybe some were loyal, and some weren't. Maybe they just wanted to rebel for the fun of it. Ths reluctancy stories older students were telling? Well, Forrest didN'T buy them. If they had such special magic, they could have FOUGHT and be HERE.

"Corruption!" Using aaaall the cool words he knew. Yep. "Maybe unbidden ideas were spread among them, and they wanted to rebel. Or just have had enough of work. Judging by their descriptions, it sounds like they work quite hard to me. Too hard for any living thing." All in all, it was THEIR own choice to leave.

"I can't guess where they are, though. They can just go to anywhere they want, so." Shrug. And crave for ice-cream.

Govoni 07-22-2013 09:27 PM

SPOILER!!: Professor!
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Originally Posted by Erik Vinteren (Post 11397232)
Erik listened respectfully to the Slytherin's answer before speaking. "Do house elves have some representation in vhe Ministry?" Erik was curious to see what he knew. "Vhe law says vhey have sufficient intelligence to know vheir rights, but why vhen do vhe elves not take advantage of vhem?"

Like he said, they considered it disgraceful to be paid...why was that? Erik looked to the rest of the class to see what they thought too.

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"Does anyone really know vhy, or how Hogwarts' house elves came to be missing? Or vhere are vhey now?"


Dylan pondered that for a moment, trying to diplomatically choose his words. "If they are, sir...I am not aware of it." Ahem. Translation: No, they aren't...and that's kinda lame. "...Aren't they bound by magic? Like...it's the House Elves 'hightest law' or whatever to be loyal...They enjoy being enslaved and having a purpose." That's what the books said, anyway...Dylan could only go by that since he hadn't dealt with the creatures on a personal level...

...and the Slytherin stared at Professor Vinteren when he asked that last...There were things he wanted to say...but Dylan bit his tongue. Hard...Might have even drew blood...More diplomatic words...

"They......." Pause. "..... belong to the school...So, with that in mind, couldn't only the Headmaster or Headmistress send them away? NOT that I'm accusing Headmistress Truebridge...but with her running the show here, isn't that the most logical explanation?" PAUSE. "...because aren't House Elves too powerful to allow themselves to be stolen?"


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