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The classroom had been cleaned and tidied in preparation for Erik's first History of Magic lesson, not by the man himself, but by the house elves he had arranged to do it for him. With so few elves still on staff, the trick to getting something cleaned was really just a matter of scheduling. And so he had scheduled a cleaning for his classroom.

As a result, all the student desks were polished and dust-free, arranged neatly in rows with a large centre aisle for easy entry and exit. The chalkboards at the front of the room were clean, blank, and ready for note-taking. Even the professor's desk in the front corner was void of any clutter. Student essays and homework would be cluttering it soon anyway.

The professor himself, if you wish to call him that, was waiting patiently for the students to arrive. He was perched quietly at the edge of his desk, arms crossed, suit pressed. He flicked open the door of the room with a wave of his wand and then stowed his wand back in its invisible holster.

Class would begin shortly.


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7. Correct answers / Demonstration and practice of Spiritum Revelio
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9. Who died in this room?
10. Time to practise the spell.
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"Class, I vas not trying to ask vhat your previous professor had taught you, nor trying to gauge your feelings toward him," he gave a few students particular looks as he said that, "but I vas more trying to get at vhe gist of how historians study history. Because today, I vant you all to think like a historian."

Erik pointed his wand at the board and more notes popped up in tidy cursive. "History can be studied by reading about key events, witnessing historical events yourself, and researching historical events vhrough a combination of efforts." So far, it seemed the students had had a combination course in history, which was more than Erik had expected but which was good anyway.

"Today ve are going to discuss a sombre subject, but an important one I feel, as history is all around us and impacts us continuously." He adjusted his cuffs and continued. "How many of you know someone who has died?" Vinteren waited for a silent show of hands. "And how many of you personally know or know ov someone who has died at Hogwarts? Name someone of historical significance whom you think died at vhis school, and if you can tell us, how, vhen, and vhere they died."


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Mo was glad the professor clarified, because it went entirely against his nature to speak about people when they weren't around. He'd enjoyed the last professor, even if he wasn't sure he'd learned much in the way of history. The classes were ENGAGING, and that was something.

But death. Oh, why? Mo gave a cautious look in West's direction to make sure his mate person-thing was okay. Did Mo know anyone who had died? Not really, which made him a rarity in this class apparently.
West saw the look from Mo and sort of... partially acknowledged it, serious eyes now, unlike earlier in the lesson. West's hand was not up at the question about who knew someone who had died... because... well... he did but did he really KNOW her? He remembered how she smelled... and that there was this lullaby... and...

... it didn't matter.

He tackled the question part instead, raising his hand and recalling what he'd read in Hogwarts, A History. "Abby Wright was a Hufflepuff Student murdered at Hogwarts a little over ten years ago. Hogwarts, A History doesn't say who or how she died, only that she was one of three Hufflepuffs that was murdered that year." It was an interesting term to read about considering their Headmistress was a professor back then and there was something in there about her now-husband getting tossed out a window. Weird.
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Okay then...at least this one was honest. Not that Erik had asked how he should teach this subject, but rather how they thought they should learn it. No matter. "Vhat vould be a nice way of teaching history, unfortunately, time travel is frowned upon." Not illegal, exactly, just frowned upon. He gave the Hufflepuff a thin smile. "Good try."


Frowned upon? How so? What a pity! At least the professor had given her a thin smile in response to her hopeful grin. She would take it as a small sample that he couldn't be that stone-person-without-feelings she had supposed him to be.

He asked about dead people... she knows lot of people who had died. At Hogwarts? She didn't know much about Hogwarts's History.... But, yeah! A idea popped in her mind and quickly she raised her hand and waved: "Professor! The Fat Friar! The ghost of my house! It seemed that he was one of the firsts students of Hogwarts! Oh!" She covered her mouth with her hands: "I don't know when he died and I'm not sure if he died at Hogwarts, but... He knows everything about Hogwarts or much more about History of Magic, I guess" , she had a gleam in her eyes as she said it.
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Oh what a wonderful subject. Death. When the Professor asked if the students knew of someone who had died Tag slowly raised his hands and tried to discreetly look around the classroom.

Afterwards the professor wanted to know of anyone who had died of Hogwarts. "What about Fred Weasley? He died during the Battle of Hogwarts in 1998, by some sort of explosion." An that was as much as Tag knew about Fred Weasley.
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Skipping the part about knowing people who had died, on a personal level he assumed, Ryan raised his hand.

"Remus Lupin. I believe he died during the Battle of Hogwarts, right next to Nymphadora Tonks." He looked over at Ella and gave a small smile.
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[FONT="Arial"]"Class, I vas not trying to ask vhat your previous professor had taught you, nor trying to gauge your feelings toward him," he gave a few students particular looks as he said that, "but I vas more trying to get at vhe gist of how historians study history. Because today, I vant you all to think like a historian."

Erik pointed his wand at the board and more notes popped up in tidy cursive. "History can be studied by reading about key events, witnessing historical events yourself, and researching historical events vhrough a combination of efforts." So far, it seemed the students had had a combination course in history, which was more than Erik had expected but which was good anyway.

"Today ve are going to discuss a sombre subject, but an important one I feel, as history is all around us and impacts us continuously." He adjusted his cuffs and continued. "How many of you know someone who has died?" Vinteren waited for a silent show of hands. "And how many of you personally know or know ov someone who has died at Hogwarts? Name someone of historical significance whom you think died at vhis school, and if you can tell us, how, vhen, and vhere they died."
A sombre subject. Beezus sighed. Deaths, they were going to talk about deaths. Such an uncomfortable topic but she stayed listening as the discussion went on.

But she knew she won't be able to get through this topic without wibbling. See there. They brought up the deaths of the two Professors. "Professor Christiansen......and Professor Burbage...." She muttered silently to herself. They were good mentors, those two. Even if one was a complete puzzle to all of them and the other was a complete nutter. Still, they were good and it was most unfortunate that they died under the worst of circumstances.

More sighing.

Anyway, she had an answer...at least one that she haven't heard her peers had mentioned so Beezus raised her hand. "Professor, there's also the death of Myrtle, commonly known to everyone as Moaning Myrtle. She was a Ravenclaw student." ...Ah. A fellow eagle. "She was killed by Founder Salazar Slytherin's basilisk under Lord Voldemort's orders on June 13, 1943. But she still haunts the Girl's Bathroom at the First Floor." And she also heard that the ghost had been flirting with her boyfriend. Pssh. But....Myrtle was of historical significance, wasn't she? She had witnessed A LOT of events at Hogswarts since she died, even helped in the quest to defeat Isfret.
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Michael finished writing down some notes about how they learn past history and he had just finished up when the Professor asked his next question. He paused for a moment and listened to the other students, of course he knew about the famous battle of Hogwarts and those that died there, but that was an obvious answer.

He raised his hand in the air. "I remember my mum telling me about this student from her house that died in the library and no one could figure out how he died." Pause. "I think his name was Set Avis and it was either the year 2067 or 2068, I can't remember the exact date.
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This was the part of the class where she typically went quiet. Recollection wasn't her thing, she had a selective memory and it never took quite well to things of the historical kind. Not her fault, nothing she could do about it either. Sure she knew some but everyone she knew was being said and she didn't think the Professor would appreciate repetition--

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Wasn't there that one guy...um...slowly her hand rose while she tried getting it together in her head. Her grandparents had told her about him, poor chap, pity what happened to him. Now if only she could remember his name. "Um...there was that Professor, that DADA Professor who was possessed by the Dark Lord. He died after Lord Voldemort's soul left his body."

Real shame, if only they could have gotten him another body first, guy probably might have lived.

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Minerva smiled as the professor gave her more praise, wow she really did like this professor. Now for his next question, Minerva listened and thought of many different names that she had read about. Trying to think of one that might stand out that others weren't saying.

Her first thoughts went to fourth term with that dreaded plant *wibbles* and the professors that they lost over it. Oh and don't forget poor Millie the wombat, no Minerva would never forget watching that happen, but someone said about those professors.

Next her thoughts went to the people she read about, back at that war that was here. Many of the names were already being said. She thought about the name Snape, but then he didn't die in Hogwarts so she threw that out, finally she put her hand up, "Professor, there was one name that stuck out in the list of student names that died in that battle, her name was Lavender Brown." Min didn't know why that name stuck out to her.. Which made her second guess herself that maybe just maybe she got the name wrong.
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So they were going to discuss death? Or more specifically people who died at Hogwarts? That was a bit of a morbid topic, was it not? Ethan eyed the new professor a bit curiously as he listened to his classmates rattle off the more familiar names from his history books.

Not wanting to repeat an answer the boy tried to think a bit deeper until he remembered something he had heard just last summer. Raising his hand, he said, "Mr. Vinteren, my aunt told me that when she was a student here a few years ago, one of her favorite professors was murdered. Forrester, I believe his name was.. and he was, I think, professor of Astronomy." Huh. Weird how two Astronomy teachers had been killed within a decade or so. Though now that he thought about it, Ethan wasn't completely sure if Forrester was actually killed at Hogwarts. That detail he didn't quite remember.
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Lexi was pleased with the nod that accent man gave her. It made her feel successful.

Now she had to figure out a good answer for someone who had died at Hogwarts. There were a lot of famous people who had died, but she wanted someone that hadn't already been said. Then she remembered her granny talking about a boy who had died. What were the names? Crelly? Cranie? Creevey? That was it, Colin Creevey. Raising her hand she spoke. "My granny told me about a boy named Colin Creevey who died. He apparently idolized Harry Potter and when he was told to leave with the other underage wizards he snuck back in to fight with Dumbledore's Army and then died. It was in the Battle of Hogwarts on May 2, 1998."
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Jory scribbled some notes as Professor Vinteren spoke then raised his hand. "Albus Dumbledore, Sir,'' he said. "He died at the hands of Severus Snape 30 June 1997 on the Astronomy Tower.'' Dumbledore was certainly a historical figure. Headmaster of Hogwarts, defeated Grindelwald, discovered the twelve uses of dragon blood. And those were just a few of the things he had done.
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Daichi grinned when the professor agreed with him that experiencing something was far better than reading about it in a boring book. This was exactly why he didn't like this year. You know, seventh year, studying, books, bleh.

At the subject of death, his grin faded and he sighed. He was afraid that the Professor was going to ask about personal things, like who has seen someone die and to be honest, Daichi did not want to answer those questions to anyone. But , this was luckily not the case and he relaxed in his seat a bit more before raising his hand.


"Cuthbert Binns was a Professor at Hogwarts who is said to have died in the staff room and his ghost just got up the next morning to start classes. I guess it was old age..."
he lowered his hand before throwing it back up in the air. "Oh! Wasn't he a History of Magic Professor?" he added.

There were alot more *cooler* answers than that ghost professor because, battle of hogwarts anyone? So why he said that answer, he didn't know...
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Nigel was pretty sure he wanted a longer answer. But Nigel was not in the mood and it was a correct answer. But this question was pretty easy. Nigel raised his hand and answered.

"Lord Voldemort died from his spell rebounding off Harry Potter and hitting him instead at the Battle of Hogwarts. I think it was in the Great Hall. But i am not sure"

Nigel read that in a very interesting textbook his uncle bought him. It was a little darker than most normal books. But that was what made it awesome.
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The Professor wanted them to behave like historians...Hmph. How very interesting. Not very challenging, though...as he was simply asking about people who had died at the school...

...And he got that stuff from before. Kinda like with Ancient Runes, yea? One had to master Runes from historical study...because the runes themselves were so old and dated. Sure, they learned about them...but not on a mastery level.

The Slytherin made a mental note to speak with Professor Botros about it.

As for an answer to the present question..."Bellatrix LeStrange, Professor...I think that was the right pronounciation. She was the Dark Lord's right hand..." That's what he'd read, anyway.
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Ascanius wasn't one for answering questions... in class... ever... well, if a guy was teaching, but this was a special case. They got to talk about death and stuff. Interesting parts. You know, not the whole this plant was discovered in this day and age. No stuff of importance. Of course, he had to admit his knowledge on magical history was pathetic. 'Cause magic was yeah....

Although he DID remember that one person that his girlfriend mentioned. It wasn't exactly history, but it was someone who HAD died at Hogwarts. And that was TECHNICALLY what Ascanius was going to say. It just wasn't a famous person or anything. Famous enough that Pen told him all about it though.

He rose his hand lazily, 'cause he wasn't going to put EFFORT into this, and said, "Professor, didn't a Professor here die not too long ago. Um, the Astronomy one. Uh, Marion Burbage. And she bit the dust via plant, right?" Ascanius hadn't been there then, but some of the people in here would remember that, no?
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Penelope kept silent on the how to study history question since the others covered that pretty well and then some, even adding things that Scabior had done. She'd mentioned the train lesson in her first answer anyway, and she didn't feel like repeating herself or the others. So her hand stayed down then.

But then they were moving on to who had died... Okay... Yeah, she knew people who had died. But who at Hogwarts? A couple came to mind instantly. Were they historically important though if it had only happened a couple years ago? Eh, she was gonna answer anyway. Up went her hand. "A couple terms ago a few professors died from this possessed plant. The Ancient Runes and Astronomy professors. The plant ate them..." And that was all she was gonna say about that, so her hand went back down.
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How does one learn history of magic? How haff…wait, she was thinking it in his accent. No! This was going to be confusing. She listened to some of the people answer his question. Groan. Some of those answers really didn’t help cause, obviously he was trying to ask about that one specific lesson. With the adorable kiddie teaching; which was rather a fun lesson. Raising her hand Mika finally spoke, “Well, generally we are assigned readings and…asked our opinions on things, discussions and the like really” she paused a moment.

“As Sophie said we have had some recent practical lessons that were really quite fun.” She smiled. “In the future though I would love to go on fieldtrips or to have…a, well…ghost – not a creepy ghost but say the Bloody Barron come in and teach use about the founding of Hogwarts and even about students of the past like everyone connected to the ‘Dumbledores Army thing” she nodded. Because that would be awesome. She blinked at the next question. "Well - um, Myrtle Professor, Moaning Myrtle she's a ghost here and died by seeing a basalic that was later killed by Harry Potter...um...and well, Tom Riddle? Or as most people call him Voldemort died here."
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Deaths at Hogwarts. Well this was a cheery subject, huh? Ella frowned slightly and wracked her brain, trying not to repeat any of the previous answers.

"Nymphadora Tonks, Sir. She died during the battle of Hogwarts while dueling." Sad really. From what Ella had read about the woman, she seemed like a really interesting person.
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Mo was glad the professor clarified, because it went entirely against his nature to speak about people when they weren't around. He'd enjoyed the last professor, even if he wasn't sure he'd learned much in the way of history. The classes were ENGAGING, and that was something.

But death. Oh, why? Mo gave a cautious look in West's direction to make sure his mate person-thing was okay. Did Mo know anyone who had died? Not really, which made him a rarity in this class apparently.

But stories about people who had died at Hogwarts were practically ghost stories, and he knew about those. Long dead, though, 'cause his mother was overprotective sometimes. He raised his hand, perhaps a bit eagerly. "Barty Crouch, Sr was a Ministry official who was murdered by his son on the grounds of Hogwarts, sir. I heard that his son turned his body into a bone and buried it in the garden, and I ALSO heard that they never found it because they sucked out his son's soul before he could tell where it was buried." Mo paused. "Oh, yeah. That was in May of 1995 during the Triwizard Tournament."
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West saw the look from Mo and sort of... partially acknowledged it, serious eyes now, unlike earlier in the lesson. West's hand was not up at the question about who knew someone who had died... because... well... he did but did he really KNOW her? He remembered how she smelled... and that there was this lullaby... and...

... it didn't matter.

He tackled the question part instead, raising his hand and recalling what he'd read in Hogwarts, A History. "Abby Wright was a Hufflepuff Student murdered at Hogwarts a little over ten years ago. Hogwarts, A History doesn't say who or how she died, only that she was one of three Hufflepuffs that was murdered that year." It was an interesting term to read about considering their Headmistress was a professor back then and there was something in there about her now-husband getting tossed out a window. Weird.
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Okay then...at least this one was honest. Not that Erik had asked how he should teach this subject, but rather how they thought they should learn it. No matter. "Vhat vould be a nice way of teaching history, unfortunately, time travel is frowned upon." Not illegal, exactly, just frowned upon. He gave the Hufflepuff a thin smile. "Good try."


Frowned upon? How so? What a pity! At least the professor had given her a thin smile in response to her hopeful grin. She would take it as a small sample that he couldn't be that stone-person-without-feelings she had supposed him to be.

He asked about dead people... she knows lot of people who had died. At Hogwarts? She didn't know much about Hogwarts's History.... But, yeah! A idea popped in her mind and quickly she raised her hand and waved: "Professor! The Fat Friar! The ghost of my house! It seemed that he was one of the firsts students of Hogwarts! Oh!" She covered her mouth with her hands: "I don't know when he died and I'm not sure if he died at Hogwarts, but... He knows everything about Hogwarts or much more about History of Magic, I guess" , she had a gleam in her eyes as she said it.
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Oh what a wonderful subject. Death. When the Professor asked if the students knew of someone who had died Tag slowly raised his hands and tried to discreetly look around the classroom.

Afterwards the professor wanted to know of anyone who had died of Hogwarts. "What about Fred Weasley? He died during the Battle of Hogwarts in 1998, by some sort of explosion." An that was as much as Tag knew about Fred Weasley.
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Skipping the part about knowing people who had died, on a personal level he assumed, Ryan raised his hand.

"Remus Lupin. I believe he died during the Battle of Hogwarts, right next to Nymphadora Tonks." He looked over at Ella and gave a small smile.
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A sombre subject. Beezus sighed. Deaths, they were going to talk about deaths. Such an uncomfortable topic but she stayed listening as the discussion went on.

But she knew she won't be able to get through this topic without wibbling. See there. They brought up the deaths of the two Professors. "Professor Christiansen......and Professor Burbage...." She muttered silently to herself. They were good mentors, those two. Even if one was a complete puzzle to all of them and the other was a complete nutter. Still, they were good and it was most unfortunate that they died under the worst of circumstances.

More sighing.

Anyway, she had an answer...at least one that she haven't heard her peers had mentioned so Beezus raised her hand. "Professor, there's also the death of Myrtle, commonly known to everyone as Moaning Myrtle. She was a Ravenclaw student." ...Ah. A fellow eagle. "She was killed by Founder Salazar Slytherin's basilisk under Lord Voldemort's orders on June 13, 1943. But she still haunts the Girl's Bathroom at the First Floor." And she also heard that the ghost had been flirting with her boyfriend. Pssh. But....Myrtle was of historical significance, wasn't she? She had witnessed A LOT of events at Hogswarts since she died, even helped in the quest to defeat Isfret.
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Michael finished writing down some notes about how they learn past history and he had just finished up when the Professor asked his next question. He paused for a moment and listened to the other students, of course he knew about the famous battle of Hogwarts and those that died there, but that was an obvious answer.

He raised his hand in the air. "I remember my mum telling me about this student from her house that died in the library and no one could figure out how he died." Pause. "I think his name was Set Avis and it was either the year 2067 or 2068, I can't remember the exact date.
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This was the part of the class where she typically went quiet. Recollection wasn't her thing, she had a selective memory and it never took quite well to things of the historical kind. Not her fault, nothing she could do about it either. Sure she knew some but everyone she knew was being said and she didn't think the Professor would appreciate repetition--

Oh wait!

Wasn't there that one guy...um...slowly her hand rose while she tried getting it together in her head. Her grandparents had told her about him, poor chap, pity what happened to him. Now if only she could remember his name. "Um...there was that Professor, that DADA Professor who was possessed by the Dark Lord. He died after Lord Voldemort's soul left his body."

Real shame, if only they could have gotten him another body first, guy probably might have lived.

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Minerva smiled as the professor gave her more praise, wow she really did like this professor. Now for his next question, Minerva listened and thought of many different names that she had read about. Trying to think of one that might stand out that others weren't saying.

Her first thoughts went to fourth term with that dreaded plant *wibbles* and the professors that they lost over it. Oh and don't forget poor Millie the wombat, no Minerva would never forget watching that happen, but someone said about those professors.

Next her thoughts went to the people she read about, back at that war that was here. Many of the names were already being said. She thought about the name Snape, but then he didn't die in Hogwarts so she threw that out, finally she put her hand up, "Professor, there was one name that stuck out in the list of student names that died in that battle, her name was Lavender Brown." Min didn't know why that name stuck out to her.. Which made her second guess herself that maybe just maybe she got the name wrong.
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Not wanting to repeat an answer the boy tried to think a bit deeper until he remembered something he had heard just last summer. Raising his hand, he said, "Mr. Vinteren, my aunt told me that when she was a student here a few years ago, one of her favorite professors was murdered. Forrester, I believe his name was.. and he was, I think, professor of Astronomy." Huh. Weird how two Astronomy teachers had been killed within a decade or so. Though now that he thought about it, Ethan wasn't completely sure if Forrester was actually killed at Hogwarts. That detail he didn't quite remember.
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Now she had to figure out a good answer for someone who had died at Hogwarts. There were a lot of famous people who had died, but she wanted someone that hadn't already been said. Then she remembered her granny talking about a boy who had died. What were the names? Crelly? Cranie? Creevey? That was it, Colin Creevey. Raising her hand she spoke. "My granny told me about a boy named Colin Creevey who died. He apparently idolized Harry Potter and when he was told to leave with the other underage wizards he snuck back in to fight with Dumbledore's Army and then died. It was in the Battle of Hogwarts on May 2, 1998."


As the students started volunteering answers, Erik pointed his wand at the board so it flipped over to the other clean side. A list began forming there as more and more deaths were....unfortunately...recalled by the students. Hogwarts was looking like quite the popular place to die, no?
Known Locations of Deaths at Hogwarts
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Staff Room (Binns)
Great Hall (Voldemort, Lestrange)
First Floor Girls' Bathroom (Myrtle)
Ancient Runes Classroom (Christiansen)
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Remus Lupin
Set Avis
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Edward Forrester
Colin Creevey

When it seemed the answers had stopped coming in so much, Erik cleared his throat. "Does anyvone have any corrections or additions to make to vhese lists? For example, does anyvone recall vhere Professor Quirrell died?"

Believe it or not, Erik actually knew the locations of several of these peoples' deaths. He liked reading about this topic.
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Well that list was interesting, but West eyed one particular part of it.

West stuck his hand up, since he knew about that particular one... "Forrester didn't die at Hogwarts, he died at The Leaky Cauldron. But he was a professor at the time." Which was why West had seen to it that his name was added to the fountain in the tower patch. It felt right to do so.
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Believe it or not, Erik actually knew the locations of several of these peoples' deaths. He liked reading about this topic.
No corrections? Yeah....West Odessa had one. She didn't. So......

As for where Quirinus Quirrell died, the brunette's eyebrows forked together as she thought hard. She read all about this in Hogwarts, A History, it was the recalling that required effort. Meeerlin. She silently drummed her fingers on her desk for a few moments. Quirrell....Quirrell.....he died..... Oh! There! ...She raised her hand and answered, "I believe Professor Quirinus Quirrell died in.....a chamber deep inside a trapdoor in one classroom located at the Third Floor which used to be a forbidden area." It was also the chamber where the Mirror of Erised was apparently kept secure and it protected the Sorcerer's Stone while it was at the school. See? Reading always helps.

Any other locations she knew? Let's see.....Beezus raised her hand again. "Remus Lupin....didn't he die at the Courtyard? He was killed by Death Eater Antonin Dolohov." His story was a real tragic one. So sad..
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Minerva sat and listened to all the names. Wow so many people were killed at this school. It kind of freaked her out a bit knowing this. She even felt a little on edge thinking about it. As he made the list of people, Minerva knew there was more, but she just couldn't put her mind to think of the names.

Putting up her hand she couldn't think of the exact name of the place Quirrel died, but she could at least try "[Professor, I can't think of the name of the place he died in, but it was a secret hide away for a stone that Hogwarts was hiding at the time." for some reason her memory was not helping her think of how he died either.
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Why was the topic 'death'? Like, she's had enough of it already. Almost as much as Milton, who would've made the list, you know. But the black hole thing, Airey telling them that they were all dying, the thestral at Ancient Runes, boggarts going on at DADA. And now THIS, Vinteren.

Granted, there had to be more 'death' connections, but Lottie could think of none.

Her eyes narrowed at the man. We're definitely suspicious of you, Mister. Was he the dark wizard in disguise that would make her win a 5-galleon bet? Who was he planning on killing, though?

Deaths at Hogwarts. Many Hufflepuffs, you know? Cedric Diggory didn't die AT Hogwarts, so he didn't count. Yay for Hufflepuff.

Hey, way a minute, Christiansen died? When did this happen? Didn't he have an accent like Mr. Vinteren here? See, suspicious. Hand raised. "I think there was a man-eating plant loose on the grounds. And they say the Herbology Professor at the time went missing." The portraits say so. She wasn't making this up. And they had Milton to prove it, anyway. "But I don't know if anyone died back then." Just interesting information, yes, Vinteren? Does anyone know where the Herbology Professor went? Because she'd like to know.
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As the students started volunteering answers, Erik pointed his wand at the board so it flipped over to the other clean side. A list began forming there as more and more deaths were....unfortunately...recalled by the students. Hogwarts was looking like quite the popular place to die, no?
Known Locations of Deaths at Hogwarts
Astronomy Tower (Dumbledore, Burbage)
Staff Room (Binns)
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First Floor Girls' Bathroom (Myrtle)
Ancient Runes Classroom (Christiansen)
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Set Avis
Quirinus Quirrell
Lavender Brown
Edward Forrester
Colin Creevey

When it seemed the answers had stopped coming in so much, Erik cleared his throat. "Does anyvone have any corrections or additions to make to vhese lists? For example, does anyvone recall vhere Professor Quirrell died?"

Believe it or not, Erik actually knew the locations of several of these peoples' deaths. He liked reading about this topic.

Seeing what the Professor had written on the board, Michael couldn't help but frown.

Unknown location?

But he had just said...

Oh did Professor man do that on purpose so that Michael could raise his hand and correct him? Okay he could do that. He raised his hand in the air. "Uh yes Sir, I have a correction." Maybe with all the students saying their answers that the man hadn't heard what Mikey had said before. "Set Avis died in the library." This time he emphasised it just so the Professor wouldn't miss it again.
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"Today ve are going to discuss a sombre subject, but an important one I feel, as history is all around us and impacts us continuously." He adjusted his cuffs and continued. "How many of you know someone who has died?" Vinteren waited for a silent show of hands. "And how many of you personally know or know ov someone who has died at Hogwarts? Name someone of historical significance whom you think died at vhis school, and if you can tell us, how, vhen, and vhere they died."
What a lovely topic of discussion.

The only person he could think of was his grandma, who died about 5 years ago. Which was sad at the time because it made his grandad sad. But he came to stay with Theo and his family a lot so he was pretty much okay now. He didn't raise his hand, though.

At Hogwarts?

He knew of those two professors but other students had already mentioned those. It was a little creepy actually, to start naming loads of deaths from THEIR school. Why was it so dangerous here? Obviously, the battle of Hogwarts took lots of lives. Theo had read all about that since it was kinda interesting. "There was a Slytherin..." Because it was cool to read about historic Slytherins. But what was his naaaaaame? "Crabbe." His first name had completely vanished from his mind. "I can't remember WHERE he died, but it was caused by Fiendfyre." True story.

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Oakey normally got bored in History of Magic, and just started doodling on his notes. Instead he just placed one elbow on his desk and and laid his cheek on his hand. dotting around the names of those who died while he attended Hogwarts.

Can they move on to who lived full, and not so deadly lives while attending the school? He didn't care if the list was short.
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She kinda wanted to know how some of the rest of 'em died but knew that would require reading and consequently knew that that wasn't happening. Eh, maybe she'd get someone to tell her about them later. These people all seemed to have the right answer.

Lex looked over the list, they all seemed right, mostly because she'd never heard of a number of them but she figured she'd stick her hand up because two of those that she did know about technically weren't right. Technically. "Neither the location for Professor Burbage or Mr. Runes Guy are correct. Runes guy was yanked from the classroom--heard him screaming and everything so he was still alive there and probably alive while he was pulled down several flights of stairs. Same for Professor Burbage. She left the room kicking and screaming but still very much alive so she couldn't have died in the Astronomy Tower. Not sure if she made it down all the flights of stairs though, that could be taxing for someone at her age. With both cases they were most likely digested by the plant and we found the plant in the Greenhouse so for all we know they probably died there. I'm almost sure they weren't eaten or killed before then though because a Ravenclaw Quidditch Captain was also taken but we got there in time so he lived." YOU ARE VERY WELCOME MILTON!

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"Today ve are going to discuss a sombre subject, but an important one I feel, as history is all around us and impacts us continuously." He adjusted his cuffs and continued. "How many of you know someone who has died?" Vinteren waited for a silent show of hands. "And how many of you personally know or know ov someone who has died at Hogwarts? Name someone of historical significance whom you think died at vhis school, and if you can tell us, how, vhen, and vhere they died."[/FONT][/COLOR]
Sarah never knew someone personally that had died, of course she had heard of people dying yet she had both sets of grandparents alive and all her great parents alive too. She decided not to add a death, not wanting to be the next one. Why did he have to choose death? Did he think soemone else was going to die?

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Sarah knew that he was killed on the third floor or at least that was where the trapdoor was, yet maybe he was killed on a different floor where the trapdoor lead to? Sarah did not know yet even if she did know she wanted to be quiet.
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"There is the unidentified fallen fifty at the Battle of Hogwarts"

It did seem that a lot of people died here at Hogwarts.
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Well that list was interesting, but West eyed one particular part of it.

West stuck his hand up, since he knew about that particular one... "Forrester didn't die at Hogwarts, he died at The Leaky Cauldron. But he was a professor at the time." Which was why West had seen to it that his name was added to the fountain in the tower patch. It felt right to do so.
Aha, here was a correction he'd been expecting. "Very good," Erik acknowledged the boy with a nod, flicking his wand at the board so Forrester was removed from the list. He didn't even know how the child knew where Forrester had died, but...maybe he was a voracious reader.

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No corrections? Yeah....West Odessa had one. She didn't. So......

As for where Quirinus Quirrell died, the brunette's eyebrows forked together as she thought hard. She read all about this in Hogwarts, A History, it was the recalling that required effort. Meeerlin. She silently drummed her fingers on her desk for a few moments. Quirrell....Quirrell.....he died..... Oh! There! ...She raised her hand and answered, "I believe Professor Quirinus Quirrell died in.....a chamber deep inside a trapdoor in one classroom located at the Third Floor which used to be a forbidden area." It was also the chamber where the Mirror of Erised was apparently kept secure and it protected the Sorcerer's Stone while it was at the school. See? Reading always helps.

Any other locations she knew? Let's see.....Beezus raised her hand again. "Remus Lupin....didn't he die at the Courtyard? He was killed by Death Eater Antonin Dolohov." His story was a real tragic one. So sad..
"Correct," he acknowledged the Ravenclaw prefect next. "On both accounts. Quirrell died in vhe chambers beneath Hogwarts and Lupin died outside Hogwarts in vhe courtyard. Excellent."

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Minerva sat and listened to all the names. Wow so many people were killed at this school. It kind of freaked her out a bit knowing this. She even felt a little on edge thinking about it. As he made the list of people, Minerva knew there was more, but she just couldn't put her mind to think of the names.

Putting up her hand she couldn't think of the exact name of the place Quirrel died, but she could at least try "[Professor, I can't think of the name of the place he died in, but it was a secret hide away for a stone that Hogwarts was hiding at the time." for some reason her memory was not helping her think of how he died either.
"That's right," Erik encouraged the Hufflepuffs, "as your classmate said, it vas in an underground chamber vhere they were hiding vhe Philosopher's Stone at vhe time." Crazy Hogwartians.

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Wow! That was quite a list of deaths at Hogwarts! Jory had not realised that there were so many people. Who knew how many others they might have missed. Professor Quirrell? Jory wasn't sure but he raised his hand, anyway. "Professor Quirrell died in a chamber possibly somewhere under the school where Mr Flamel's Stone was hidden.'' Also the Mirror of Erised.
"Yes, correct." Erik wondered what was with the Hufflepuffs and Quirrell.

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NO WAY.

Why was the topic 'death'? Like, she's had enough of it already. Almost as much as Milton, who would've made the list, you know. But the black hole thing, Airey telling them that they were all dying, the thestral at Ancient Runes, boggarts going on at DADA. And now THIS, Vinteren.

Granted, there had to be more 'death' connections, but Lottie could think of none.

Her eyes narrowed at the man. We're definitely suspicious of you, Mister. Was he the dark wizard in disguise that would make her win a 5-galleon bet? Who was he planning on killing, though?

Deaths at Hogwarts. Many Hufflepuffs, you know? Cedric Diggory didn't die AT Hogwarts, so he didn't count. Yay for Hufflepuff.

Hey, way a minute, Christiansen died? When did this happen? Didn't he have an accent like Mr. Vinteren here? See, suspicious. Hand raised. "I think there was a man-eating plant loose on the grounds. And they say the Herbology Professor at the time went missing." The portraits say so. She wasn't making this up. And they had Milton to prove it, anyway. "But I don't know if anyone died back then." Just interesting information, yes, Vinteren? Does anyone know where the Herbology Professor went? Because she'd like to know.
...he wasn't sure if Wisteria was joking or not. "Are you talking about vhe deaths of vhe Astronomy and Ancient Runes professors two years ago?" he asked, rather point-blank. "Because vhat did happen." At least one very important person had died back then. He shouldn't be forgotten like that.

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Seeing what the Professor had written on the board, Michael couldn't help but frown.

Unknown location?

But he had just said...

Oh did Professor man do that on purpose so that Michael could raise his hand and correct him? Okay he could do that. He raised his hand in the air. "Uh yes Sir, I have a correction." Maybe with all the students saying their answers that the man hadn't heard what Mikey had said before. "Set Avis died in the library." This time he emphasised it just so the Professor wouldn't miss it again.
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What a lovely topic of discussion.

The only person he could think of was his grandma, who died about 5 years ago. Which was sad at the time because it made his grandad sad. But he came to stay with Theo and his family a lot so he was pretty much okay now. He didn't raise his hand, though.

At Hogwarts?

He knew of those two professors but other students had already mentioned those. It was a little creepy actually, to start naming loads of deaths from THEIR school. Why was it so dangerous here? Obviously, the battle of Hogwarts took lots of lives. Theo had read all about that since it was kinda interesting. "There was a Slytherin..." Because it was cool to read about historic Slytherins. But what was his naaaaaame? "Crabbe." His first name had completely vanished from his mind. "I can't remember WHERE he died, but it was caused by Fiendfyre." True story.

Errrr who was Professor Quirrell?
"Vincent Crabbe died in vhe Room of Requirement, as a result of vhe Fiendfyre he set himself in an attempt to stop Harry Potter from destroying Lord Voldemort's horcrux." Erik replied to the boy in one long, matter-of-fact sentence. He knew his history. And he added that to the board.

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"There is the unidentified fallen fifty at the Battle of Hogwarts"

It did seem that a lot of people died here at Hogwarts.
"Vhat is also true," Erik added the fifty to the list. "A lot of people haff died at your school, it seems."

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Whoa...that was a nifty list.

She kinda wanted to know how some of the rest of 'em died but knew that would require reading and consequently knew that that wasn't happening. Eh, maybe she'd get someone to tell her about them later. These people all seemed to have the right answer.

Lex looked over the list, they all seemed right, mostly because she'd never heard of a number of them but she figured she'd stick her hand up because two of those that she did know about technically weren't right. Technically. "Neither the location for Professor Burbage or Mr. Runes Guy are correct. Runes guy was yanked from the classroom--heard him screaming and everything so he was still alive there and probably alive while he was pulled down several flights of stairs. Same for Professor Burbage. She left the room kicking and screaming but still very much alive so she couldn't have died in the Astronomy Tower. Not sure if she made it down all the flights of stairs though, that could be taxing for someone at her age. With both cases they were most likely digested by the plant and we found the plant in the Greenhouse so for all we know they probably died there. I'm almost sure they weren't eaten or killed before then though because a Ravenclaw Quidditch Captain was also taken but we got there in time so he lived." YOU ARE VERY WELCOME MILTON!

But yeah, point was, neither died at the location they were attacked at.
And then there was Alexa Cambridge. Erik winced at the way she described Tristan as 'Runes guy' - it was so disrespectful. So painful to hear how he was being described as 'screaming' down 'several flights of stairs.' Erik took a breath and reminded himself that she had no idea. She didn't know who Tristan Christiansen really was. She had been...what, a first year at the time?

Patience, Vinteren, patience.

"You haff a point there, Miss Cambridge," he said instead, quietly adjusting his notes on the board to fit along with her theory. "Better?"

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Known Locations of Deaths at Hogwarts
Astronomy Tower (Dumbledore)
Staff Room (Binns)
Great Hall (Voldemort, Lestrange)
First Floor Girls' Bathroom (Myrtle)
Underground Chambers (Quirrell)
Hogwarts Library (Avis)
Room of Requirement (Crabbe) / nearby (Weasley)
Hogwarts Grounds (Crouch)
Courtyard (Lupin)
Greenhouses (Burbage, Christiansen)

Known Deaths, Unknown Locations
Nymphadora Tonks
Abby Wright
Fat Friar
Lavender Brown
Colin Creevey
Unidentified Fallen Fifty
And on the topic of his notes...Erik glanced to the board and made another correction. "Fred Weasley actually died outside the Room of Requirement, as he vas killed in an explosion vhile fighting alongside his brother." He adjusted that note and looked at the class.

"I realise vhis is a difficult topic for many of you, but I assure you I haff a point in reviewing vhis vith you." He paused. "It has been more vhan 80 years since vhe Battle of Hogwarts, yet we still know and recognise as fact the locations of all vhese peoples' deaths." He gestured toward the board. "How is vhat possible? How do we know for certain, for example, vhat Remus Lupin vas killed in vhe Courtyard? And even though she didn't die in vhe battle of Hogwarts," he gestured toward Burbage's name, "how do ve know how and vhere she died?"

He was looking for a few different answers here...
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"Sources, professor?" Alice had remained fairly quiet for the majority of the lesson, eyes glued to her name tag as she tried to avoid that face Selina had been so obsessed with. But she was talking now, hand up and everything, even though she still wasn't making direct eye contact. "People who were there document the information, such as about where they died and when, by people using the.. historical method?" Or something. "Like the use of primary and secondary sources and all. Historiography."

.. if that didn't make any sense, they could blame his face. His face was distracting.

At least she wasn't stammering now, or blushing, that would have been worse than spouting nonsense in a lesson.
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Well, Jory certainly knew how he knew about most of those death. He raised his hand. "Professor, the facts were documented in books,'' he said. "The information most likely would have had to come from witnesses, the ones who survived the Battle.''
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