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Arithmancy Two: Chaldean Numerology & Your Bridge Numbers
It seemed as if the term seemed to be getting away from Josephina. Between the random student freezings and some rough patches on the pitch for her house, time just seemed to slip away. But before it got any later in the term, it was time for another round of numbers.
After making sure the desks were straight, she resumed her start of lesson position, by taking a seat on the desk at the front and then flicked her wand casually at the door to open it.
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Take your seats, take out your notes from last lesson, and we'll begin shortly!
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Not for the first time, Penelope sat at her desk with a blank yet slightly confused expression on her face. It was becoming a habit really, but it was especially so after she'd hit her head almost two weeks ago which had forced her to stay in bed most of the time and do nothing. It'd even caused her to miss the Quidditch game which she was still upset over. But finally, today, she'd started to feel much better than she had, so she'd hoped this Arithmancy lesson wouldn't be too bad for her.
But instead, it was making her head go back to hurting.
She hadn't even looked at the textbook in ages, so that was probably why, but still, why did everything have to be so hard to remember? Why couldn't she just instantly remember these things like everyone else seemed to be able to do? Why was all this so hard for her?
Meh. She set an elbow on her desk and rested her chin in her hand. Until they got to a question she could remember the answer to (which probably wasn't going to be any time soon), she would just continue to stare down at the blank parchment on her desk - 'cause she didn't feel like taking notes either. Staaaare.
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Ira nodded and made a small note of the method said by keefer. WUV was actually easier to remember, but at the same time, a bit funny, as it made her remember a puppy barking! Hehe...
Anyways, moving on, Ira thought about the next question, and raised her hand up and answered, "Its Babylonia, professor." And made a small note again of the extra info as said by Keefer.
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WUV....That was a good way to remember it! That Captain Keefer sure was smart...no wonder he was the leader of the Quidditch team! She smiled over at the boy before turning back to her notes and scribbling that little tip down so she could remember it.
The next question Hadley asked was actually quite hard. Ella didn't know the answer off the top of her head so she started flipping through her notes. She knew that it was some ancient place but she just couldn't think of where...Using her finger to scroll through her notes, she found it. "Professor, was it Baby-Babylonia?" That was kind of hard to say, huh? Babylonia...It sounded like a baby covered in bologna.
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Since everybody was right Nigel guessed he should add the answer to his notes. But now it was getting more confusing. Nigel thought this as a Math class not a History class. He did not really care either way but he did like to know what exactly what Arithmancy was.
Okay he was rambling now. It was now time to get back to the question. What geographical location did this system come from. Well he looked at his notes and they seemed to help. "Professor, it was Babylonia" That did seem correct but Babylon sounded better in Nigel's opinion. Babylonia sounded like something you put on a sandwich.
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Hadley the Points Hacker could ask the world's most difficult questions, could she not? Yet when a Puffer, a young one at that, spoke up, Sierra jerked her head in the young girl's direction. How did she know that whole Babylon--...wait.
Something triggered inside Sierra's mind. She knew this. She'd read it before, although, she couldn't imagine why she'd been reading something about Chaldean Numerology. "The southern part of Babylonia," she said, raising her hand as she added in a little extra input.
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Tiffany was not the kind of students who were very interested in Arithmancy since she was not really good at this subject but then she could still remember some of the details of it, as the Professor had said in the previous lesson.
"It was the Babylonia,"she answered as she raise her hand up in the air. It was such an interesting name that she would never forget and keep it in her mind for the rest of the lessons, she guessed.
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Jezzabelle could have banged her head on the desk and the answer would still be on the tip of her tongue. It had a weird spelling in her opinion. Kind of like if you mashed the word baby with...well, with another word.
She sat there pondering it over trying to get it to come forward to come of and the urge to bash her head into the desk jumped forward yet again. Babyliona...no not liona...was that even a word? But something like that. Then it hit her. Hand shooting in the air she said, "Babylonia...in the southern part?" She wasn't entirely sure it was the southern part but it tickled her brain a little so she was probably correct somewhat.
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Keefer grinned. He was wondering if Hadley would notice his little play on letters. Nothing gets past her! He smiled warmly up at his Head of House, fully of affection for her wonderful leadership.
Oh, and he definitely knew this one as well. Cue two hands in the air. "Chaldean is just a different term for saying Babylonian. The Babylonians occupied what is known as the Cradle of Civilization, which is the fertile area between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers and north of the Persian Gulf. Currently it's Iran and Iraq." Yes, he was a fountain of geographical information.
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Ira nodded and made a small note of the method said by keefer. WUV was actually easier to remember, but at the same time, a bit funny, as it made her remember a puppy barking! Hehe...
Anyways, moving on, Ira thought about the next question, and raised her hand up and answered, "Its Babylonia, professor." And made a small note again of the extra info as said by Keefer.
Listening, Josephina smiled when the students seemed to even know the geographical significance of the Chaldean method. "Yes, Babylonia, or as Prefect Greingoth made more specific, the southern part of Babylonia. Which is present-day Iran and Iraq, as Captain Marius added for us." Wealth of geographical knowledge it seemed, her captain had. Though she couldn't fight off the sense that Keefer and Sierra were perhaps competing to add the most originality and detail to their answers?
"Why is the number 9 omitted from Chaldean Numerology System?"
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Okay. Southern Babylonia...which was now Iran and Iraq. Ella scribbled down these additions to her notes, wanting to keep them up to date. As for Professor Hadley's next question, Ella knew this one. She remembered from their previous lesson. "Professor Hadley, wasn't the number nine left out because it was considered to be like a...holy number?" YUP. Number nine was like the swiss cheese of numbers to the Chaldeans. Tee-hee.
Again, Ira raised her hand up and answered, "9 was considered as a sacred and holy number." Though Ira didn't see why it could not been used. A sacred number was even more special right? So it should have been used with even more emphasis on it as a lucky number.
She continued, "I think it is because of the fact that any number multiplied by 9 always reduces back to 9... so it was considered different..maybe"
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Listening, Josephina smiled when the students seemed to even know the geographical significance of the Chaldean method. "Yes, Babylonia, or as Prefect Greingoth made more specific, the southern part of Babylonia. Which is present-day Iran and Iraq, as Captain Marius added for us." Wealth of geographical knowledge it seemed, her captain had. Though she couldn't fight off the sense that Keefer and Sierra were perhaps competing to add the most originality and detail to their answers?
"Why is the number 9 omitted from Chaldean Numerology System?"
Now this was something he couldn't know from basic geography and knowledge of ancient civilizations. But he could hazard a guess, no?
Two hands shot up into the air, well before fellow student leader, Sierra Greingoth, could manage a response.
"Honestly, I have no idea. But ancient people tended to be rather superstitious and violent. So my guess is that it had something to do with their religion, perhaps it was the number of love, war, fertility, something along those lines?" Or he was way off.
"But what confuses me there is that I thought the Babylonians had a base-60 numbering system, so it seems far less likely that this specific number would garner any significance. Like for our base-10 system, 9 is the last digit before you have to add another place value and power of 10. But nothing like that holds with theirs." AND he was rambling now.
Back on topic."Er.. I guess what I'm saying is... perhaps it has some superstitious quality? I know the Jews had a word they wouldn't use because it was holy, and other religions have numbers that are sacred. Maybe this is just another example of that."
That's right, Greingoth. The Puffs can beat you in class, why not on the Pitch?
And most importantly, WHAT had he eaten for breakfast this morning? It seemed to be stimulating his brain in an unusual way.
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With the next question Kurumi again decided to simple repeat the information silently in her head for review, although she did omit the southern bit from her thoughts having forgotten about that minor detail. Babylonia was still on par with everything else, so she hadn't forgotten all that much during the gap between her OWLs, the previous lesson, and now.
Hearing the next question, the sixth year again decided to remain silent in her seat and instead answered inside her head as her own personal review. Because because the Chaldeans felt the 9 was holy, sacred, and thus to be held apart from the rest, she repeated inside her head word for word from the textbook - just as she had memorized it. She could still remember the flashcard she had made about the Chaldean System for her OWLs. Those were not tucked away somewhere inside her sock drawer. She should probably offer those to Selina for her own studying benefits now that she thought about it.
After class she would be sure to find her in the common room...or in the Great Hall. Chances were she would find her in the Great Hall devouring nibbling on some friend chicken or something.
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Numbers. YUUUUCK!
What was more horrid than taking an elective in a magic school? Taking an elective in a magic school that didn't really involve magic. Why had Elijah taken the class then? A) To keep his parents happy and B) The Professor was his Head of House and if he kept her happy then whenever he got into serious trouble she may go easy on him. It was called forward thinking. Would explain why Elijah enjoyed Divination so much.
In attempt to look the part for the class, Elijah walked in holding a large abacus. All of the beads of his abacus were a canary yellow to sport his house pride (and also to bring out the colour in his gorgeously dreamy eyes). He had no clue how to use one of the damn things, but he thought he could just move the beads about and pretend to be counting or something. Did Arithmancy even NEED abaci? Merlin only knew.
"Why hello, Professor," he greeted as he walked in front of her desk, making sure to subtly (or maybe not so subtly) show off his abacus. He pulled a small flower from his robe pockets and presented it to the Professor, "For you, Professor. You are looking extremely well today."
Always the charmer.
He made his way between the desks, noting who was currently present. He spotted Vickers nearby and Kurumi, both of which were ridiculously intelligent and both of which probably knew how to work his abacus if it came to that. Hm. Who to sit next to?
He decided on the 'Claw, figuring that keeping his distance from Kurumi voluntarily may make her want him even more. 'Playing hard to get,' as they say.
"Hellllllooooo Vickers!" he said cheerily, sliding his fine looking self into a chair beside him. Looking over his shoulder he gave Kurumi a small wave and a wink, that way she totally knew he was thinking about her at least. "How are we today, my fine 'Claw?" he asked, turning his attention back to his friend. "Do you like my abacus?"
Elijah briefly spotted the words on the blackboard and groaned somewhat. He didn't have any notes from last lesson... probably because he hadn't taken any last lesson out of sheer laziness. Thankfully Vickers seemed to have his, which made Elijah even more please about his choice of desk buddy. He pulled out some blank pieces of parchment and a quill before seeing how quickly he could shove a bead on his abacus from left to right.
Still OCing stacking up his notes from last lesson, Vickers looked up and grinned as the Hufflepuff settled beside him, "Oh hey there Elijah" he greeted back and was quickly taken with the contraption on Elijah's desk "An abacus..." he murmured in quiet amazement. He hasnt seen those in a while, at least not around Hogwarts
SPOILER!!: Hadley
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Listening, Josephina smiled when the students seemed to even know the geographical significance of the Chaldean method. "Yes, Babylonia, or as Prefect Greingoth made more specific, the southern part of Babylonia. Which is present-day Iran and Iraq, as Captain Marius added for us." Wealth of geographical knowledge it seemed, her captain had. Though she couldn't fight off the sense that Keefer and Sierra were perhaps competing to add the most originality and detail to their answers?
"Why is the number 9 omitted from Chaldean Numerology System?"
He sifted through his notes from last class and raised his hand "Professor the Chaldeans regarded the number 9 as sacred and wanted to keep it separate from the rest of their usual numerological chart." There was something he was wondering about though, since last class. Up goes the hand again "Professor, the Chaldeans still allow a person with 9 as a sum of their number to keep that number, but what meaning would they be using then, given how each number all the way to 52 as a specific meaning? "
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Oopsie. Chelle didn't know that part about Babylonia, so she took her quill and some parchment and began to scribble it down. She would have to do a little more research from now on before coming for Arithmancy. Yup.
Why was 9 left out?
This was one question she was confident about. A few days ago, she had been wondering the same thing, and she had gone looking for the answer by herself. This was an easy one. "Professor, the number 9 was left out of the Chaldean Number System because the Chaldeans felt that the number 9 was holy, sacred and thus to be held apart from the rest," she replied.
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Alyssa was upset that she had missed answering the last question regarding where the Chaldean System was first used which everyone knew was the Southern most part of Babylon and even though she was slow in answering the next question, she was still determined to give her answer.
So she raised her hand, and answered.
"Professor the Number 9 was left out of the Chaldean Number System because the Chaldeans believed that the number 9 was considered holy and sacred and therefore was considered to be better than the other numbers."
"However, the Chaldeans did still consider the number 9 if it was the number that one's calculation ended up with."
"I guess one of the reasons why it's special and different is because unlike the other numbers, no matter how one multiplies the number 9, it's core number will always reduce back to the number 9."
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Listening, Josephina smiled when the students seemed to even know the geographical significance of the Chaldean method. "Yes, Babylonia, or as Prefect Greingoth made more specific, the southern part of Babylonia. Which is present-day Iran and Iraq, as Captain Marius added for us." Wealth of geographical knowledge it seemed, her captain had. Though she couldn't fight off the sense that Keefer and Sierra were perhaps competing to add the most originality and detail to their answers?
"Why is the number 9 omitted from Chaldean Numerology System?"
Jory raised his hand. "It was left out because it was considered to be sacred,'' he said after some thought. If his memory served him right, that indeed was the answer.
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"Why is the number 9 omitted from Chaldean Numerology System?"
"Because it was their sacred number," Nora said as she quickly raised her hand, glad that she finally knew the answer to a question. Well, she probably knew them all, but she just wasn't as quick as others were. Besides, she didn't want to look in her notes before answering. That would be called cheating, eh?
"The Chaldean culture supposed that, in addition to being highly mystical, the number always vanished. To them, connecting a letter with this number would be bland to the beholder." Said Sarah upon raising her hand.
This was cool! They were doing like a quiz session. Ness liked this and once again she was greatful to have Hadley her teacher. The red head listened careful giving up a little with answering. She knew only some of those answers anyway and she didn't feel like embarrasing herself by saying the wrong things.
As for this answer, she remembered more or less what it was about, but just to make sure she looked in her book again. "Professor wasnt it because the number 9 was considered to have more importance?" That seemed right..well to Ness it did.
Listening, Josephina smiled when the students seemed to even know the geographical significance of the Chaldean method. "Yes, Babylonia, or as Prefect Greingoth made more specific, the southern part of Babylonia. Which is present-day Iran and Iraq, as Captain Marius added for us." Wealth of geographical knowledge it seemed, her captain had. Though she couldn't fight off the sense that Keefer and Sierra were perhaps competing to add the most originality and detail to their answers?
"Why is the number 9 omitted from Chaldean Numerology System?"
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Okay. Southern Babylonia...which was now Iran and Iraq. Ella scribbled down these additions to her notes, wanting to keep them up to date. As for Professor Hadley's next question, Ella knew this one. She remembered from their previous lesson. "Professor Hadley, wasn't the number nine left out because it was considered to be like a...holy number?" YUP. Number nine was like the swiss cheese of numbers to the Chaldeans. Tee-hee.
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Still OCing stacking up his notes from last lesson, Vickers looked up and grinned as the Hufflepuff settled beside him, "Oh hey there Elijah" he greeted back and was quickly taken with the contraption on Elijah's desk "An abacus..." he murmured in quiet amazement. He hasnt seen those in a while, at least not around Hogwarts
SPOILER!!: Hadley
He sifted through his notes from last class and raised his hand "Professor the Chaldeans regarded the number 9 as sacred and wanted to keep it separate from the rest of their usual numerological chart." There was something he was wondering about though, since last class. Up goes the hand again "Professor, the Chaldeans still allow a person with 9 as a sum of their number to keep that number, but what meaning would they be using then, given how each number all the way to 52 as a specific meaning? "
Elijah had spotted the look the Professor had given him when he had been pretending to use his abacus. Perhaps this was not the time to be using his abacus. He'd wait till actual maths started and not this alphabet mumbo jumbo.
He was determined to get back in her good books so waited for the next question to be answered. Now, no matter what question was likely to come out of Professor Hadley's mouth, there was NO chance Elijah was going to know the real answer, so he devised a plan...
The first person to put up their hand was a Huffie girl. Ella, he thought her name was - they met briefly in Care of Magical Creatures, maybe? Or maybe she was one of his admirers that kept coming up to him to tell him how gorgeous he was... ANYWAY.
As Ella raised her hand, Elijah raised his hand in unison. Part one: complete. As the girl began to speak, Elijah's jaw began to move, copying everything she was saying, just a millisecond later than her perhaps, but LOUDER to ensure his answer was the one that was heard. "Left out... because... considered.... HOLY number!"
He gave his biggest smile, smug at how he KNEW this one. Sorta. He turned round to his good friend Vickers, "Look Vickers! I knew one!" So what if everyone in the class was giving a variety of different answers, he was FIRST... kinda.
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Elijah had spotted the look the Professor had given him when he had been pretending to use his abacus. Perhaps this was not the time to be using his abacus. He'd wait till actual maths started and not this alphabet mumbo jumbo.
He was determined to get back in her good books so waited for the next question to be answered. Now, no matter what question was likely to come out of Professor Hadley's mouth, there was NO chance Elijah was going to know the real answer, so he devised a plan...
The first person to put up their hand was a Huffie girl. Ella, he thought her name was - they met briefly in Care of Magical Creatures, maybe? Or maybe she was one of his admirers that kept coming up to him to tell him how gorgeous he was... ANYWAY.
As Ella raised her hand, Elijah raised his hand in unison. Part one: complete. As the girl began to speak, Elijah's jaw began to move, copying everything she was saying, just a millisecond later than her perhaps, but LOUDER to ensure his answer was the one that was heard. "Left out... because... considered.... HOLY number!"
He gave his biggest smile, smug at how he KNEW this one. Sorta. He turned round to his good friend Vickers, "Look Vickers! I knew one!" So what if everyone in the class was giving a variety of different answers, he was FIRST... kinda.
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After they gave HER answer...in unison at that...Ella turned to look at the boy incredulously. Really, Romeo? REALLY? And in all honesty, Ella was actually quite impressed by his plan cause he clearly wasn't an expert in Arithmancy and Ella OWNED in this class so he had good taste...in people to steal answers from. But DUDE. SO not cool. She frowned at him, eyebrows raised before turning back to the front. Hmph. He wouldn't be doing that all class, would he? CrazyAnswerStealerStealingAnswersFromASecondYear.
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Minerva was confused by the questions. She listened and wrote in her notes what others said, but she hated not knowing the answers. When the next question came she looked into her book and put her hand up, "UMMM.. Professor Hadley could it be they thought the 9 was evil or that it did not add well so they avoided it?" Minerva wasn't really sure, but figured guessing couldn't hurt.
Chartruese sat at the back of the class too timid to answer any questions. However, this was one that she knew. She raised her hand and said," Professor, 9 is considered a sacred number.
Nigel was now wondering where these questions were going and what they were going to do in this class today. But Nigel did not really care if it wasted time, he just wanted to answer the question.
"Professor, is it because the number 9 was a holy number?"
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SPOILER!!: Elijah and Ella
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Elijah had spotted the look the Professor had given him when he had been pretending to use his abacus. Perhaps this was not the time to be using his abacus. He'd wait till actual maths started and not this alphabet mumbo jumbo.
He was determined to get back in her good books so waited for the next question to be answered. Now, no matter what question was likely to come out of Professor Hadley's mouth, there was NO chance Elijah was going to know the real answer, so he devised a plan...
The first person to put up their hand was a Huffie girl. Ella, he thought her name was - they met briefly in Care of Magical Creatures, maybe? Or maybe she was one of his admirers that kept coming up to him to tell him how gorgeous he was... ANYWAY.
As Ella raised her hand, Elijah raised his hand in unison. Part one: complete. As the girl began to speak, Elijah's jaw began to move, copying everything she was saying, just a millisecond later than her perhaps, but LOUDER to ensure his answer was the one that was heard. "Left out... because... considered.... HOLY number!"
He gave his biggest smile, smug at how he KNEW this one. Sorta. He turned round to his good friend Vickers, "Look Vickers! I knew one!" So what if everyone in the class was giving a variety of different answers, he was FIRST... kinda.
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After they gave HER answer...in unison at that...Ella turned to look at the boy incredulously. Really, Romeo? REALLY? And in all honesty, Ella was actually quite impressed by his plan cause he clearly wasn't an expert in Arithmancy and Ella OWNED in this class so he had good taste...in people to steal answers from. But DUDE. SO not cool. She frowned at him, eyebrows raised before turning back to the front. Hmph. He wouldn't be doing that all class, would he? CrazyAnswerStealerStealingAnswersFromASecondYear.
Vickers glanced at his Potions--now Arithmancy-- buddy with a tight-lipped smile and a firm nod. He answered correctly. But he also answered with an echo. An echo that sounded strangely like a girl. Should he tell Elijah that if he yells loud enough he sounds like a girl? Shifting in his seat slightly he spotted a Hufflepuff girl throwing dagger-looks at his buddy. Yeah hello there echo.
Face back to front with the tight-lipped smile still in place, he scribbled a few notes on his parchment trying not to chuckle out loud.
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Listening, Josephina smiled when the students seemed to even know the geographical significance of the Chaldean method. "Yes, Babylonia, or as Prefect Greingoth made more specific, the southern part of Babylonia. Which is present-day Iran and Iraq, as Captain Marius added for us." Wealth of geographical knowledge it seemed, her captain had. Though she couldn't fight off the sense that Keefer and Sierra were perhaps competing to add the most originality and detail to their answers?
"Why is the number 9 omitted from Chaldean Numerology System?"
Sierra grinned when her answer was highlighted. Of course it was the right answer. Duh. She was simply awesome like that. Of course the Puffer had to add in even more information. At least it wasn't Hollingberry this time, though...
She started to raise her hand to respond to the question when the Puffer captain himself chimed in.
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Now this was something he couldn't know from basic geography and knowledge of ancient civilizations. But he could hazard a guess, no?
Two hands shot up into the air, well before fellow student leader, Sierra Greingoth, could manage a response.
"Honestly, I have no idea. But ancient people tended to be rather superstitious and violent. So my guess is that it had something to do with their religion, perhaps it was the number of love, war, fertility, something along those lines?" Or he was way off.
"But what confuses me there is that I thought the Babylonians had a base-60 numbering system, so it seems far less likely that this specific number would garner any significance. Like for our base-10 system, 9 is the last digit before you have to add another place value and power of 10. But nothing like that holds with theirs." AND he was rambling now.
Back on topic."Er.. I guess what I'm saying is... perhaps it has some superstitious quality? I know the Jews had a word they wouldn't use because it was holy, and other religions have numbers that are sacred. Maybe this is just another example of that."
That's right, Greingoth. The Puffs can beat you in class, why not on the Pitch?
And most importantly, WHAT had he eaten for breakfast this morning? It seemed to be stimulating his brain in an unusual way.
Oh, for the love of Merlin! Did the poor boy have some crush on Hadley, or something? Surely the question didn't need that detailed of answer. Nevertheless, he'd answered just before Sierra, which gave her the upper hand. Why spend valuable time thinking when you can wait for the Puffers to give you all the answers?
Puffers = hard workers
Slytherins = those who benefit from the hard workers
Sierra happened to know this answer, though, and it wasn't what the Puffer had said. "...because the Chaldeans thought the number was holy and should be set apart," Sierra said, raising her hand. "However, ...if a name happens to total nine then the nine remains."
Jezzabelle just sat there and made tiny star in her notes next to the answer this time around. The answer had already been thoroughly given by the other students and she also knew the answer herself without having to refer to her notes. So she waited patiently for the next question.
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Now Prue realised why she'd never really come to arithmancy before! Because truly, how and why was she supposed to know why 9 wasn't used? It was too much... so she sat awkwardly drawing a small picture on her parchment while she thought things along the lines of 'why wouldn't you use a number?'
"Was it because it was a 'bad' or 'cursed' number, like 4 is the death number in chinese?" sure it didn't stop them from using the number but it would make sense... wouldn't it?
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SPOILER!!: Number 9 is "wholly" ... err... holy..
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Okay. Southern Babylonia...which was now Iran and Iraq. Ella scribbled down these additions to her notes, wanting to keep them up to date. As for Professor Hadley's next question, Ella knew this one. She remembered from their previous lesson. "Professor Hadley, wasn't the number nine left out because it was considered to be like a...holy number?" YUP. Number nine was like the swiss cheese of numbers to the Chaldeans. Tee-hee.
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Again, Ira raised her hand up and answered, "9 was considered as a sacred and holy number." Though Ira didn't see why it could not been used. A sacred number was even more special right? So it should have been used with even more emphasis on it as a lucky number.
She continued, "I think it is because of the fact that any number multiplied by 9 always reduces back to 9... so it was considered different..maybe"
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Now this was something he couldn't know from basic geography and knowledge of ancient civilizations. But he could hazard a guess, no?
Two hands shot up into the air, well before fellow student leader, Sierra Greingoth, could manage a response.
"Honestly, I have no idea. But ancient people tended to be rather superstitious and violent. So my guess is that it had something to do with their religion, perhaps it was the number of love, war, fertility, something along those lines?" Or he was way off.
"But what confuses me there is that I thought the Babylonians had a base-60 numbering system, so it seems far less likely that this specific number would garner any significance. Like for our base-10 system, 9 is the last digit before you have to add another place value and power of 10. But nothing like that holds with theirs." AND he was rambling now.
Back on topic."Er.. I guess what I'm saying is... perhaps it has some superstitious quality? I know the Jews had a word they wouldn't use because it was holy, and other religions have numbers that are sacred. Maybe this is just another example of that."
That's right, Greingoth. The Puffs can beat you in class, why not on the Pitch?
And most importantly, WHAT had he eaten for breakfast this morning? It seemed to be stimulating his brain in an unusual way.
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With the next question Kurumi again decided to simple repeat the information silently in her head for review, although she did omit the southern bit from her thoughts having forgotten about that minor detail. Babylonia was still on par with everything else, so she hadn't forgotten all that much during the gap between her OWLs, the previous lesson, and now.
Hearing the next question, the sixth year again decided to remain silent in her seat and instead answered inside her head as her own personal review. Because because the Chaldeans felt the 9 was holy, sacred, and thus to be held apart from the rest, she repeated inside her head word for word from the textbook - just as she had memorized it. She could still remember the flashcard she had made about the Chaldean System for her OWLs. Those were not tucked away somewhere inside her sock drawer. She should probably offer those to Selina for her own studying benefits now that she thought about it.
After class she would be sure to find her in the common room...or in the Great Hall. Chances were she would find her in the Great Hall devouring nibbling on some friend chicken or something.
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He sifted through his notes from last class and raised his hand "Professor the Chaldeans regarded the number 9 as sacred and wanted to keep it separate from the rest of their usual numerological chart." There was something he was wondering about though, since last class. Up goes the hand again "Professor, the Chaldeans still allow a person with 9 as a sum of their number to keep that number, but what meaning would they be using then, given how each number all the way to 52 as a specific meaning? "
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Oopsie. Chelle didn't know that part about Babylonia, so she took her quill and some parchment and began to scribble it down. She would have to do a little more research from now on before coming for Arithmancy. Yup.
Why was 9 left out?
This was one question she was confident about. A few days ago, she had been wondering the same thing, and she had gone looking for the answer by herself. This was an easy one. "Professor, the number 9 was left out of the Chaldean Number System because the Chaldeans felt that the number 9 was holy, sacred and thus to be held apart from the rest," she replied.
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Alyssa was upset that she had missed answering the last question regarding where the Chaldean System was first used which everyone knew was the Southern most part of Babylon and even though she was slow in answering the next question, she was still determined to give her answer.
So she raised her hand, and answered.
"Professor the Number 9 was left out of the Chaldean Number System because the Chaldeans believed that the number 9 was considered holy and sacred and therefore was considered to be better than the other numbers."
"However, the Chaldeans did still consider the number 9 if it was the number that one's calculation ended up with."
"I guess one of the reasons why it's special and different is because unlike the other numbers, no matter how one multiplies the number 9, it's core number will always reduce back to the number 9."
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"Why is the number 9 omitted from Chaldean Numerology System?"
Jory raised his hand. "It was left out because it was considered to be sacred,'' he said after some thought. If his memory served him right, that indeed was the answer.
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"Because it was their sacred number," Nora said as she quickly raised her hand, glad that she finally knew the answer to a question. Well, she probably knew them all, but she just wasn't as quick as others were. Besides, she didn't want to look in her notes before answering. That would be called cheating, eh?
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"The Chaldean culture supposed that, in addition to being highly mystical, the number always vanished. To them, connecting a letter with this number would be bland to the beholder." Said Sarah upon raising her hand.
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This was cool! They were doing like a quiz session. Ness liked this and once again she was greatful to have Hadley her teacher. The red head listened careful giving up a little with answering. She knew only some of those answers anyway and she didn't feel like embarrasing herself by saying the wrong things.
As for this answer, she remembered more or less what it was about, but just to make sure she looked in her book again. "Professor wasnt it because the number 9 was considered to have more importance?" That seemed right..well to Ness it did.
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Elijah had spotted the look the Professor had given him when he had been pretending to use his abacus. Perhaps this was not the time to be using his abacus. He'd wait till actual maths started and not this alphabet mumbo jumbo.
He was determined to get back in her good books so waited for the next question to be answered. Now, no matter what question was likely to come out of Professor Hadley's mouth, there was NO chance Elijah was going to know the real answer, so he devised a plan...
The first person to put up their hand was a Huffie girl. Ella, he thought her name was - they met briefly in Care of Magical Creatures, maybe? Or maybe she was one of his admirers that kept coming up to him to tell him how gorgeous he was... ANYWAY.
As Ella raised her hand, Elijah raised his hand in unison. Part one: complete. As the girl began to speak, Elijah's jaw began to move, copying everything she was saying, just a millisecond later than her perhaps, but LOUDER to ensure his answer was the one that was heard. "Left out... because... considered.... HOLY number!"
He gave his biggest smile, smug at how he KNEW this one. Sorta. He turned round to his good friend Vickers, "Look Vickers! I knew one!" So what if everyone in the class was giving a variety of different answers, he was FIRST... kinda.
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Chartruese sat at the back of the class too timid to answer any questions. However, this was one that she knew. She raised her hand and said," Professor, 9 is considered a sacred number.
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Nigel was now wondering where these questions were going and what they were going to do in this class today. But Nigel did not really care if it wasted time, he just wanted to answer the question.
"Professor, is it because the number 9 was a holy number?"
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Oh, for the love of Merlin! Did the poor boy have some crush on Hadley, or something? Surely the question didn't need that detailed of answer. Nevertheless, he'd answered just before Sierra, which gave her the upper hand. Why spend valuable time thinking when you can wait for the Puffers to give you all the answers?
Puffers = hard workers
Slytherins = those who benefit from the hard workers
Sierra happened to know this answer, though, and it wasn't what the Puffer had said. "...because the Chaldeans thought the number was holy and should be set apart," Sierra said, raising her hand. "However, ...if a name happens to total nine then the nine remains."
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Jezzabelle just sat there and made tiny star in her notes next to the answer this time around. The answer had already been thoroughly given by the other students and she also knew the answer herself without having to refer to her notes. So she waited patiently for the next question.
Josephina smiled at the number of students who raised their hands and knew the answer to that question.
"Precisely right. The Chaldeans seemed to hold the belief that the number 9 was holy and sacred and needed to be set apart from the rest," Fina reiterated. She didn't need to elaborate more though, as Keefer had already given quite the long-winded explanation. The boy ate something for breakfast, obviously. Perhaps some Muggle Wheaties?
But what was that that the Ravenclaw boy asked? "Yes, as Mister Vanderbilt asked.... if someone ends up with a number 9 as their sum for their calculation, they would use the meanings found underneath that particular number calculation. So from last lesson, if you were calculating your Destiny Number, and your final result was between the numbers 1 through 9, then your meanings of the numbers would be the same as found in chapter 7 for the Pythagorean System. Numbers are universal in meaning. It's the process of calculating them though that changes." Depending on the system you used.
SPOILER!!: Number 9 as EVIL?!? :O
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Now Prue realised why she'd never really come to arithmancy before! Because truly, how and why was she supposed to know why 9 wasn't used? It was too much... so she sat awkwardly drawing a small picture on her parchment while she thought things along the lines of 'why wouldn't you use a number?'
"Was it because it was a 'bad' or 'cursed' number, like 4 is the death number in chinese?" sure it didn't stop them from using the number but it would make sense... wouldn't it?
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Minerva was confused by the questions. She listened and wrote in her notes what others said, but she hated not knowing the answers. When the next question came she looked into her book and put her hand up, "UMMM.. Professor Hadley could it be they thought the 9 was evil or that it did not add well so they avoided it?" Minerva wasn't really sure, but figured guessing couldn't hurt.
"Not quite," Fina shook her head. "They didn't think the number nine was bad. It was just ... special and holy."
Right then, it was time to move on with the lesson, but one more question should do it. Make it an even five.
"One last question before we move on." She paused, flipped through her notes briefly, and then looked up again. "In terms of number vibrations, single numbers denote what? When compared with what do double or compound numbers show?"
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Skimming over her carefully taken notes, the young lion tried to find the answer to the question. Where was it? Looking up on down the paper she looked for key words like 'compound' or 'single numbers'. Finally locating it in the middle of the page in tiny scrawl she squinted. It's bad that she struggle to make out her own hand writing but she managed to make out the main points.
Jezzabelle raised her hand," Single numbers represent the physical outward appearance while compound numbers show deeper hidden forces."
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