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Old 01-12-2012, 01:25 PM
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Upon entering the classroom, ones first thought could have been that they had walked into the wrong room and was actually joining a cult. The room was exceedingly dark, windows having been closed off with dark burgundy, almost black looking, drapes that hung from ceiling to floor. Deep purple colored mats were lined perfectly from one another on the floor in rows of six while a deep red one sat in the front of them all where Professor Medea currently sat upon. However, one could find their way around the room, for scattered around were a great deal of candles, both lighting portions of the walls, floors, and ceiling itself in a rather ghostly glow fashion. Candles that floated in water surrounded with the stationary candles to light up the particularly extra shiny floor were placed strategically around so no one would accidentally catch fire, while large rectangle like shapes cradling the ceiling with an orange glow gave the final look to the room.

In front of each mat is a parchment already shaped into a long cone to be easily placed in front of you to be read. Of course, the Professor hasn't placed names to face yet, so please come in, complete the task of writing your name on the parchment in a mostly dark room, and become comfortable on one of the mats. Class will be starting shortly!



OOC: Please come in and take a seat on one of the mats [and be familiar with the rules and expectations]. Also, so you aren't referred to as 'that kid' or 'hey you', have your character fill out the name tag so we know who you are. The lesson will begin in about 12 hours or so. Feel free to hang out, but please don't add pages and pages of chatter.

Class has BEGUN! Please don't post a late arrival. Just jump in like your character has been there the whole time.
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Amelia shifted into the new position and raised her hand to answer the next question asked. "I don't think using the spell itself makes it necessarily Dark. I think the intention does. If it's used in self defence for instance, that's an entirely different thing than casting it to just hurt someone for the sake of hurting someone." She thought back into history, and the fact that even Harry Potter, Ron Weasley, and Hermione Granger had used spells like the Unforgivable Curses when they had been young. And she knew that they were far from Dark Wizards.

"As I said before, we could all say Unforgivable Curses and none of them would work unless there was intention behind the words. Harry Potter himself had used a Unforgivable Curse, and he was far from a Dark Wizard."
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"However, is it just the spell itself that makes it dark? If a vitch or vizard used one of these spells, vould that automatically make them a dark person? Vot makes someone a dark vitch or vizard?"[/color]
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Zhenya had a moment to think whilst she got into this new position. It wasn't bad at all, except for the balancing, she was a bit wobbly but managed to stay up just fine. She was focusing on the Professor's hands.

"Professor, I believe what makes a witch or wizard dark is someone who primarily studies, practices and uses dark magic, so if you use a dark spell once, maybe out of self defence or something, it doesn't make you dark if you don't do it regularly," she thought. She wouldn't like to ever use dark magic, but if it was her family in danger then she supposed she could. "I also think it is your intention that might make it dark. If you try to cast something dark and you don't have enough intent then it might not work," she added.
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Ellie folded her arms, rocking from heel to toe and smirking at the students wobbling to keep their balance. To answer the Professor's question from before? No, she would not be doing these yoga positions. They were pointless and everyone looked ridiculous. She refused to be part of that crowd.

To answer the Professor's current question, however, "It depends on intent. If they mean lasting harm on someone and perform the curse or others mutliple times, I'd say they were Dark. If it's someone using it once in more of a self-defense sort of way than a pointed attack, then they're...not dark." Just using a curse. Anyone could use a curse.
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Minerva got into the tree pose, but almost lost her balance. She put both feet back on the and retried this time it worked. She put up her hand. "Professor I don't think it is just the spell that makes a wizard dark. The spell is considered dark because in most cases it is used for evil or to harm. In some cases like the jinxes they are used well as jokes like some have said, but the more horrible ones like the curses the wizard has to be dark before using to the spell to even think about using it, especially one that will kill another wizard."
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"You can let go of your foot now."

She'd let them relax and grumble a little while she wrote a few things down on her parchment list. Glancing at her watch after, seeing that they didn't have much time left, perhaps enough for one more topic, she stood up and looked out to the class. Time for more grumbles. She was SURE they wouldn't enjoy this pose. It did require...balance.

"Ve're almost done. I promise. Just one more position. The tree pose. Hold your hands together like so..." Demonstration time! "Then take your foot, and carefully hold it over your knee." She would make it a little less difficult by keeping the hands mid-level and not above their heads like she was used to doing. Before their complains could fill her ears though, she continued on.

"So, ve've discussed the three categories for dark spells. The jinxes, in which cause damage or negative effects. The hexes, which are the simplest of malevolent spells to cast, most often having some sort of transfiguration or other negative effect. And then the curses, which almost always are intended to cause grave harm to the victim."

"However, is it just the spell itself that makes it dark? If a vitch or vizard used one of these spells, vould that automatically make them a dark person? Vot makes someone a dark vitch or vizard?"


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Sierra made a face as they were instructed to move into yet another weird position. What was the purpose of this anyway?! To torture them?! That had to be it! Sierra moved her body into the tree position then glanced up at the professor. Merlin, she'd be sore tomorrow! It was all the professor's FAULT, too!!!

Finally, her hand went up. "It's not just the spell that makes someone dark. The witch or wizard has to have an evil intent behind the casting, too," she explained. "They have to really want to hurt someone just for...well, no reason. Just to. That's what makes them dark."

So did that mean she could randomly cast a hex one some unsuspecting Puffer, and as long as she 'really didn't mean to hurt them', it wouldn't count?! Hmm... It was something to think about.
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Beatrice sighed with relief as Professor Romanos asked them to put their feet down. She immediately stood up and bent down to massage her knees and legs. Maybe she could try and use some exercise before she attends the same class next time.

For there was still one more position. She followed the Professor's demonstration like so. She raised her other foot and held it against her knee. She swayed a bit but she kept herself together. Before answering the next question, she made sure she wouldn't fall down then she raised her hand, "Professor, as my classmates have said, it is not only the mere use of those spells that makes a with or wizard dark but also the intent," she rocked a bit on her position that made her lost balance. She hurriedly let go of her raised foot and stepped it back on the floor to support her from falling completely. "In addition to that, I believe that if doing so makes them happy or they enjoy it at the very least, they could really be considered dark." Because only dark wizards find happiness in harming others.
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Sophie actually thought this Tree Pose was one of the easiest ones. She didn't have a hard time raising her hand this time.

"I don't think so, ma'am. Sometimes we may have to use some of these spells to protect ourselves, for example! Or just to have some fun." she knew a couple of people in her own family that were not dark wizards and witches, but loved playing around with some of these spells they had just talked about. "I think that what makes someone a dark wizard or witch is their intention on using the spells... right?"
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Jezzabelle felt her balance wobble on this pose too. She really hoped this was the end of the complicated poses. Raising her hand she took a deep breath and then said, "I don't necessarily think that just because a witch or wizard uses a curse makes them dark. As I said, they have to really mean it. Really want to see someone hurt and not care about the repercussions." She placed her hand down hoping it would help with her balance.
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Gustav wondered if these poses was a way to learn how to multi-task. He did what he was told and did the tree pose. Balance...Balance....he thought to himself.
"For me, using dark curses does not necessarily mean they are bad witches or wizards...it is knowing the real intentions behind using such spells ...is it the purpose to kill another being just to bring them satisfaction or to protect in self-defense...it questions us really... because we do not know what exactly lies beneath the minds of the individual..." he said as he raised his head to answer.
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Aki tried the position their professor demonstrated, she started placing her foot in the position she almost fell down,

Oooops!I hope no one noticed..Focus Akira!Focus.. she thought.

Aki started relaxing her muscles while trying to maintain peace in her mind. Slowly, she was able to do the Tree Pose. She straightened her body just like what her mother did when she attends to the yoga classes.

Awesome.. she thought and smiled.

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"Professor, I don't think so, the dark spell isn't what makes the wizard a dark wizard but merely the intention in doing so. But sometimes in rare cases, it's the main reason why they turn to dark witches and wizards. They become so full of the dark spells that they're able to produce and so they become addicted to it, like they couldn't use their wands without producing dark spells..Well, that's my opinion."

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One thing Hades was sure that his balance had improve. Final pose? There's more? Merlin, save them! Reluctantly, the fourth year copied the proffessor's pose. "Using dark magic doesn't make someone a dark wizard or witch. It depends on their intentions, I guess? In some occasions, good people might need to use dark magic. They don't do it to harm people. But it's different when it comes to dark wizard. Or witches. They want to hurt people using dark magic and that's what make them who they are, dark wizardsa and witches." It made sense, right? He just thought of it spontaneously.
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"You can let go of your foot now."

She'd let them relax and grumble a little while she wrote a few things down on her parchment list. Glancing at her watch after, seeing that they didn't have much time left, perhaps enough for one more topic, she stood up and looked out to the class. Time for more grumbles. She was SURE they wouldn't enjoy this pose. It did require...balance.

"Ve're almost done. I promise. Just one more position. The tree pose. Hold your hands together like so..." Demonstration time! "Then take your foot, and carefully hold it over your knee." She would make it a little less difficult by keeping the hands mid-level and not above their heads like she was used to doing. Before their complains could fill her ears though, she continued on.

"So, ve've discussed the three categories for dark spells. The jinxes, in which cause damage or negative effects. The hexes, which are the simplest of malevolent spells to cast, most often having some sort of transfiguration or other negative effect. And then the curses, which almost always are intended to cause grave harm to the victim."

"However, is it just the spell itself that makes it dark? If a vitch or vizard used one of these spells, vould that automatically make them a dark person? Vot makes someone a dark vitch or vizard?"


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Maxwell struggled with the pose because it had trouble holding is leg behind him. "Well, Professor I believe that would have more to do with that Witch or Wizards intentions and reasoning behind using any jix's, curses or hexes."
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"Indeed, there are three most unforgivable. Good." Probably talk about it later.



Defensive curse? "Yes, most curses can be blocked by counter-curses. Not all though. Good." She had a feeling the unforgivables would be popular examples.



Oh, apparently not! Good. Variety with examples was needed. "Yes the gemino curse. Most often confused vith the geminio spell. Good."



Medea couldn't help but smile at the way the girl started her answer. "It definitely vill. Good."



"Yes indeed. Good." she nodded.



"Yes, they are not generally taught in schools, and I vill not see them being used here unless under strict supervision." she said, talking to both the girl and the rest of the class. Also depended on the spell. "Good though."



"Yes, unfortunately some are almost impossible to stop. Good." Yes, quite unfortunate.



"Yes, good." she nodded.



"Yes, good. The focused intent is the most important vith the curses than vith any other spell. Othervise, the spell may not vork properly or even be successfully cast at all." Always came down to the intent.



"Fiendyre is indeed one of them. Good." she nodded.



Medea nodded slowly as she spoke. "Those two particular spells still affect the victim's own will to move freely, which labels them as curses, however...you are right. Compared to other curses, these are some of the least harmful." She smiled, lowering her voice a little. "Quite frankly, I'd prefer to use those two when dueling also, if it came down to it. There are always other vays to take down your opponent though vithout resulting to curses."



Make someone ill...

Blowing away a piece of stray hair away from her face, Medea blinked at the girl. Football? Alrighty then. "No. Miss Hyde, if you can please stay behind after class?"

While Medea formed it into a question, the girl didn't have a choice.




Medea smiled. Not because of the correct answer, no. Well, that too, but the lack of balance in this room was unbelievable. "Definitely not cool. Good."



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Pardon?

Medea shook her head a little, not familiar with what the girl was saying for a moment before it dawned on her. Awww haha. Cheeky student. "Since this is defense against the dark arts, I'd say it's safe to presume ve'll going vith the magical curse." She could talk to her muggle studies professor for information about muggle curses.




"Yes, to obtain information was a very popular reason that the cruciatus curse has been used in the past, and possibly present." However unfortunate it was. "Good."



...Dear Merlin, don't let the girl pull this one into the shenanigans.



"The flagrante curse is indeed a good example. Good." she nodded.



Medea nodded. "Good. Vith curses, the intent is very important when casting the spell."



Yes, unfortunately... "They can be used to protect, though it usually comes down to the intent of the caster, and the situation they are in. The shriveling curse is a good example, yes."



"They certainly can. Good." she nodded.



"None of the three unforigivables are acceptable. Which is why they are...unforgivable." she smiled a little and nodded. "Good." Least the girl knew that the spells should be used sparingly if at all.



"The blasting curse indeed. Good." she nodded.



Medea nodded. "It certainly is severe. Any idea why the body-bind curse has been listed as a curse?" She just wanted to know the girl's thoughts and if she knew.



Medea nodded. "Preferably in the presence of adult supervision. Good." She didn't want to hear that a wall was blasted open on the opposite side of the castle after this.



"Yes, good." she nodded. The body-bind as well as the unforgivables seemed to be the most popular.



"Yes, good." she nodded. Though she did have opinions on what was the worst spell. She wasn't going to put down the kid's own opinion though.



"Deadly indeed. And I, as vell as the rest of the staff no doubt, vill not tolerate having that spell used." Just a warning for everyone. "Good though."



"Yes, good." she nodded. "Intent is very important for curses."



"Yes, good." she nodded. "Sometimes confused vith the blasting charm though."



"It does harm one in a horrible vay, indeed." she nodded, though not delving further into the topic. "Good."



"Yes, good." she nodded before moving on to the next student.



"The unforgivable curses are indeed good examples, yes." she nodded.



"Not the only curses though." she said with a slight grin. She knew what the girl meant. "Good though."



"You can remove most effects of a curse vith the use of a counter curse." she nodded. "Good."



Medea paused in replying to contemplate the way the girl's answer was worded before slowly nodding. "Yes, okay. Good. Curses are indeed strong, but not the strongest when it comes down to it. Other spells can be just as strong and just as harmful."



"Yes, intent is very necessary and important when performing curses." she nodded. "Good."



She was a bit bemused on his thoughts of the reductor curse, but the other two she could understand. "That is...a vise decision." she nodded slowly. "Perhaps think about it a little more and whenever you think you're ready, you can give me your answer." Whether it was during the next class or the end of the year, it was up to him.



"Yes, intent is indeed important. Good." she nodded.



"Indeed, the unforgivables do not have a counter-curse. One of them though, can be resisted, but it takes a very strong vill to do so."



Hmmm. "Not really for self-defense." she shook her head. "Some can be used for self defense, if not all of them vithin reason, but most often they are used for offense purposes intended to harm. Good though."


"You can let go of your foot now."

She'd let them relax and grumble a little while she wrote a few things down on her parchment list. Glancing at her watch after, seeing that they didn't have much time left, perhaps enough for one more topic, she stood up and looked out to the class. Time for more grumbles. She was SURE they wouldn't enjoy this pose. It did require...balance.

"Ve're almost done. I promise. Just one more position. The tree pose. Hold your hands together like so..." Demonstration time! "Then take your foot, and carefully hold it over your knee." She would make it a little less difficult by keeping the hands mid-level and not above their heads like she was used to doing. Before their complains could fill her ears though, she continued on.

"So, ve've discussed the three categories for dark spells. The jinxes, in which cause damage or negative effects. The hexes, which are the simplest of malevolent spells to cast, most often having some sort of transfiguration or other negative effect. And then the curses, which almost always are intended to cause grave harm to the victim."

"However, is it just the spell itself that makes it dark? If a vitch or vizard used one of these spells, vould that automatically make them a dark person? Vot makes someone a dark vitch or vizard?"


The Tree Pose


Harvey let go of his foot as instructed, he was hoping the lesson was over already.. that was until he was given another pose to do.. the tree pose.. reluctantly he did as he was told.. barely holding his balance.. before he lost it and had to put his other foot back down again to stop himself from falling over.. he tried again and this time he managed to keep the pose. He then put up his hand to answer the question "Professor I think it is the intention of causing grave harm to the other person using one of the 3 unforgivable curses that could automatically make them a dark person, or it could be someone who gets happy or finds pleasure in causing grave harm to another person using the spells. This could also make them a dark person automatically" he answered as he held the pose, he was trying hard to keep his balance..
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So it was the last pose then. That's good since Tiffany just couldn't remain her balance when doing yoga though it was fun to try a bit of it. She let her legs go and did the tree pose as she looked at how the professor did that. Well...that's really hard to get balanced on her mat that she nearly fell down when she raised her hand and answered the question.

"Professor, I think it depends on their main purpose of using those spells. If they deliberately use them to harm or kill people, then they would be considered as dark witches and wizards,"she paused a bit."But I think that if they are not harming people on purpose, why should they use that kind of unforgivable curses but not other normal spells if they only want to defend themselves?"

After giving the answer, she focused on her balance work again, just hoping that she would not fall in front of the whole class.
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Elise nodded and set her leg down with a heavily exaggerated thud. This was totally going to hurt in the morning. Her eyes widened as the Professor asked them to get into another position and groaned. No more!

Lifting her leg to her knee, she moved a little too quickly and had to resort to hopping around on one foot to keep from falling over. Hop. Hop. Stay. Calming down. Okay.

Placing her hands in the right position, she waited until she was stable before answering.

"It's not the spell that makes someone dark. It's the intent behind the spell, whether to injure or potentially kill the victim."
Putting her hand back where it should've been, she wobbled around before regaining balance.

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"I too think it is the caster's intent that really determines if the spell is dark. Some spells are just labeled dark because of how they were commonly used in the past and the fact that they can cause harm. But many of them can also be used for defense or even practical purposes. For example, the blasting curse could simply be used on a large boulder that is blocking your way, so long as everyone nearby stands far enough back to not get hit; and the leglock and body-bind curse could hinder someone from running off somewhere dangerous."
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"Phew! Tayla relaxed when the professor said they could let go of their foot. But before the ache went away, they were asked to make another pose. "All right. Just one more position..." Tayla thought, realizing yoga - or whatever this was supposed to be - was more tiring than she expected. At least it felt more tiring than the professor made it look!

Tayla took her foot once more and held it over her knee, like what was demonstrated. She struggled to keep her balance as Professor Romanos continued discussing and then asked the next question. After quickly raising her hand and putting it back in position to maintain her balance, Tayla replied, "No, Professor. It isn't just the spell that makes it dark. The witch or wizard who uses it factors in a great deal. There are those who truly enjoy hurting others. They take great satisfaction from the curses or jinxes, from seeing their victims suffer, hearing them scream or beg. I think this cruel intent makes the spell's effect darker and stronger."

Answering the question made Tayla's chest feel a bit heavy. She couldn't understand how anyone could feel that way, but she knew that, sadly, there were witches and wizards who were heartless and terribly cruel.
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Would she keep that promise? Would this really be the last yoga thing they do? Hmmm...Ari tried to copy the Professor's movements but lost her balance when trying to raise her leg and fell flat on her back. Ouch. Not to mention embarrassing too. Waiting until the red in her cheeks disappeared, Ariadne raised her hand to reply to the question.

'It is not the spell that makes a person dark, it is intent that matters. If someone uses a hex as defence that doesn't make him or her evil, but if they want to provoke pain and suffering on purpose, they are indeed Dark witches or wizards.' Ari thought for a moment and then added: 'But in the case of jinxes, not even intent makes you a Dark wizard. Jinxes are most oftenly used as pranks; for example, Jinxes and hexes were used a lot during Harry Potter's time at school with the intention of getting revenge on other students. Ginny Weasley was known for her Bat-Bogey Hexes, but that didn't make her a Dark witch.'
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Oooh. A tree pose? They were going to look like trees? That seemed really cool. Indiana giggled, watching the professor for a moment. It looked hard. Obviously they would need to balance, which maybe she should be good at, seeing as she was a quidditch player. Indy mused, getting herself into the pose, although she found that she wasn't that good at this balance thing. And this really didn't look like tree's so much. That was pretty sad. Indy wanted to look like a tree! But back to the question. "I think a person's intention makes them a dark witch or wizard. They need to have the intention of wanted to cause someone a lot of harm. I don't think any old wizard using a dark spell would automatically be a dark wizard or witch, because you really have to mean it, and want to hurt someone to get the spell to work." And she suspected that most people couldn't do that.
Medea nodded. "And perhaps if the vitch or vizard vos able to perform the spell correctly? Even for a first time. Vould that label them as dark?" Just something to think about.

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Laura looked at the Professor and smiled. "I can do that Professor." If the Professor wanted to spend more time with her then Laura wasn't going to say no to her. "Well Professor maybe if they like spending time out at night?" That would be suspious wouldn't it, and nope Laura wasn't going to do this pose either.
Hmmm good. One step forward...

...and two steps back...

Oh look, another student was answering.


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Daisy changed into the 'tree pose'. Seriously, the yoga was harder than the questions, but then again, they were probably aimed at first years, and were helping to refresh her memory a little too.
'Not just the spell is bad, most of the time they are bad, but if used for defence, they can be acceptable. People like Aurors use curses legally against dark wizards,' she answers, 'It mainly depends on WHY they are using them, you know, their intentions,' Daisy was proud, she didn't think she knew this much on the subject, but she had read about it before, 'say they were just using them for fun, or for trying to take over the world... that's a bit over the top, but whatever, that's bad,' she said, trying to actually remember what the question was, 'but in defence, they're acceptable. Not always good, but acceptable'
"Yes, defense is a good reason, but again, it depends on the intention. Trying to harm your opponent to the point where you aren't in danger anymore versus trying to disarm them in a vay where it's least likely to cause harm are two different stories."

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She attempted the tree pose and fell over. She then got back up and tried again,"If they do bad things that are harmful to others, is that what makes them back."
Oops! Thank Merlin she'd remembered to put out these mats before the lesson. Too many students falling over. And a general answer. Okay. "Vot about if they were under the imperius curse? Or they were being blackmailed into doing so?"

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Finally they could set their feet back on the ground! And of course, there was always the next position ready too! But it was the last position, meaning it was now time for last question! So this class was over too! Then again, Professor wrote something in her parchment. What was Professor writing in her parchment? and that too every time before asking a question? Maybe it was kind of check-list, Ira decided.

The tree pose! Oh! Ira knew this! She could balance herself on her one leg, for sure. She lifted her left leg up and balanced herself on her right one.

Then, when she was sure she wasn't gonna fall, she raised her hand up and answered, "Professor, according to me, a spell is not responsible for making someone Dark. But intent of the spell-caster is. If there is malice in a wizard's intentions, then he is a Dark wizard!" She thought some more about it. Then she added, "Also for example, if we take the case of the unforgivable curses even, if there is really a need to use them, so as to protect others, then the wizard who casts it to protect others from getting hurt can't be called a dark wizard, right?" Ira hoped that she was able to convey her point...
Medea stared at the young girl for a moment before slowly nodding. "A vizard who protects others could hardly be called dark, but in vot situation vould one really need to use the unforgivable curses?" She was curious to know the girl's opinions.

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Oh, well, he could do that position. Sort of. No, no, he could. Because he was standing and doing that without much hassle. Good to know.

Then he separated his hands as he raised one of them before answering the question, "Well, it depends on what they're used for," so, basically, yes, the intentions, "And most importantly why." But he continued, "So, if perhaps a witch or wizard use them once in their whole life, that doesn't mean they're dark...however, if they continuously do so, and enjoy it...then, yes, that would make them dark."

Hands back together.
"All good points. Good." she nodded. There wasn't anything she could think of that she could loop into what the kid said.

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Oh. Change of position. Louisa was focusing on those positions more than she was on the questions again. She struggled to stay still as she stood in the Tree Pose. The name was kind of funny actually and she found herself smiling slightly. It was a tricky one, though. Because you had to keep your arms clapped together yet balance yourself. It would've been easier if she just spread her arms and used them for balance.

....oh! They were in DADA class, not gym. Riiight. "Yes...?" she answered and questioned at the same time. "I guess it makes them so." If somebody used a curse, jinx or hex that made them dark wizards. It was simple to Louisa. And maybe too general.. but again, she didn't really know much about those stuff.
Yes?

Well...alrighty then.

"Any chance you can expand on that, Miss Carter?"


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Selina let go of her leg with a sigh of relief. She was not a contortionist. As much as she wanted to be her body did not move like that... no way. If this Professor wanted someone flexible she would have to look to Violet who was a dancer. She knew that her friend could contort her body in weird and awkward ways. Selina, however, could not.

So Selina then moved onto the next pose and almost fell over. Balance? No way on land. If this were flying it would be a different story. Wait, flying! She closed her eyes and pretended she was in the air. Suddenly she could balance... it was like flying.

"Ma'am?" She said completely relaxed, "The spell has a dark intent, therefore it is dark. Spells perform their function and if the function is dark then so is the spell. And no, not every person who uses a dark spell is dark. What if someone's family were being attacted and the victim used a dark spell to protect there family. They are not dark then. And I think your last question cannot be answered. It's like asking why some people prefer fruits over vegetables. I mean can you really tell if darkness if conditioned or innate? It is hard to say."
That last portion was quite a thinker. "That is an excellent point of view, Miss Skylar." she grinned and nodded. "I doubt even the most educated and wisest person in the vorld vouldn't be able to answer it. There is too much grey in between the dark and light to tell. Excellent thinking."

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Now they were getting into ethics. This is why they needed to be doing relaxation poses, not hard poses. He raised his hands, still pressed together, wobbling dangerously in the process. "Dark implies evil, the express desire to hurt someone and perhaps even enjoy it. I think that all of us have this feeling at some point in our lives when we let our emotions get the best of us."

Like Laura in the corridor earlier that day...

"At times like that, some of us fall prey to the desire for revenge, to make the other person feel our pain. It's our form of 'justice,' though our rationale at such times is perhaps not the best. Therefore, I think the use of a curse does not implicate someone as a Dark wizard or witch automatically. We all make mistakes. However, repeated use of curses, hexes, and jinxes is grounds for labeling someone Dark, in my book."
Medea nodded a little bit. "Those are good points. Ve all do make mistakes."

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Oh no. Nonononono.

Nora couldn't do it. She knew she couldn't do it.

With a deep breath and trying to focus only on not falling, Nora raised her hand before copying that LAST position. "A dark spell doesn't really have to make the witch or wizard dark." And she was going to lose her balance soon... "I think it's the hatred or... everything that is negative" uhm... ? "that makes them dark. And, of course, the constant use of dark spells."
"Yes, negativity is a very large contributing factor." she nodded.

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Alex raised his hand. "I think it's a bit of both, to be honest. In the case of the Unforgivable Curses, you have to really MEAN it when you cast and really want to inflict harm on them to make it work. True, someone could have certain reasons for wanting to inflict harm on someone as an act of defense or revenge but generally, it's a bad person casting the spell," he finished.

As soon as he finished speaking, he nearly toppled over and had to stop himself from falling by balancing himself with his arms. This yoga stuff was HARD.
"That is true. You do have to take in account those grey areas that become a bit fuzzy when considering light from dark." she nodded.

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Alyssa was glad to be finally changing positions, until the Professor gave them another one to move into. This was definitely an interesting class. 'Even if we didn't learn a thing which would be difficult not to, we at least learned the various yoga poses,'Alyssa laughed to herself before raising her hand to answer the Professor's next question.

"Professor, I don't think that it automatically makes someone a dark witch or wizard especially if the dark spell they used was to defend themselves. There is of course no excuse to cast the Unforgivable Curses unless the witch or wizard was absolutely sure that to not use it would mean their certain death. Even then he/she had to be very comfortable knowing that they will be causing pain to the victim or possibly killing someone, if they use it and are willing to accept the consequences of their actions.

What is most important is the intent of the person casting the dark spell. If it is to just to amuse or torture a victim then it is wrong. If it is repeatedly used in order for the person to gain power through fear and intimidation, then yes, it does make that person a dark witch or wizard.
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"Yes, that is very vell put. Good." she nodded.

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Taylor went into the tree position swiftly. She raised her hand. "Professor, isn't one classed as a dark wizard or witch if one uses magic to kill, or harm anyone and had the strong intent to do it with?"
"Harming others and using magic to kill are contributing factors to vot determines a dark vitch or vizard, but not the only reason or vay one is 'dark'." she nodded. "Good point though."

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And yet another position...how fun. Once Hannah had managed the said tree pose she piped up with her answer. "Professor I don't think merely using a curse makes you a dark wizard. I think you must have bad intentions in order for you to be considered a dark wizard. I don't think using a curse for self defense makes you a dark wizard for instance." She really hoped this was the last position for the class and for the rest of the year for that matter.
"Yes, good thoughts."

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The Tree pose was impossible, this much August Goldstein was certain of.

Many attempts were made by the Gryffindor but he was unable to achieve standing more than a few second each time he continued to try over and over again until the Professor asked them another querstion, the last he thought he heard her say.

"I don't think just performing the spell would make a witch or wizard bad really, Professor. I think it's just like what I and yourself mentioned before." he said gesturing to her. "It requires intent to harm or maim that makes someone's action, like casting, dark or evil."
"Mmhmm, intent is a good start vith dark vitches and vizards." she nodded. "Though like Mr. Hyde had said, some of us let the emotions get the best of us sometimes. Perhaps even enough to cast such spells as curses or the unforgivables, even if just for once. Perhaps, do you think repeated actions of this dark intent vould make the person dark?"

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Ella looked at the pose the professor was now doing and bit her lip. She didn't exactly think the tree pose was going to be easy. She got her arms in position with no problem but when she tried to put her foot in front of her knee she started to wobble. She felt her body rock back and forth a few times before she fell over sideways. "Ooof!" She got up quickly, trying not to call too much attention to herself. "Sorry..." She said sheepishly to the professor.



Ella wasn't entirely sure about this. She knew that sometimes witches and wizards used curses in dire circumstances and they weren't necessary dark. "Professor, I guess a dark witch or wizard means to do damage with the spells they are using. They have no sympathy for the person they are causing the harm to and no worry about the consequences. I guess that someone using a dark spell doesn't make them dark...it's why they're doing it."
"Careful Miss Bishop." Thank Merlin class was almost over. Got through it without any injuries. "Good thoughts. Though vot about if revenge was put into play? Vot vould be the results then?"

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Finally, it was onlyone more pose and it was Violet's favourite one. Violet concentrated on a still object and balanced on one foot to do the tree pose. She thought of the teacher's question while balancing on her foot. Then she raised her hand. Professor, A spell itself does not make it dark because they can be used as defensive spells for on's safety. A witch or wizard who wants to do harm to others or for powe can be considered as a dark person."
Medea nodded. "Good thoughts."

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Lily paused trying to answer the professor's added question. After gathering her thoughts Lily replied, "Is is considered a curse because it prevents the person being attacked by the curse from doing anything, like casting a defense charm or getting away?" Lily wasn't quite sure but that made sense to her.

Lily had to think on this question for a while. What would make a wizard/witch dark? After a while of thought while in the tree pose, Lily raised her hand carefully, as to not knock herself over. "I think the intent behind the spell would cause the person to be considered dark. Like if someone said a spell and meant to cause harm, they might be considered dark." Lily replied trying to stay upright even though she had done yoga many times before.
"Perhaps." she nodded. "Though, there intentions then may be dark, but vot about other times in which he or she may use the spells? For example, protecting someone?"

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These positions were getting harder with each question. An Adam did not have the greatest balance in the world. He tried to put one of his feet behind him an hopped to a side,an regained his balance by shifting all his weight to the opposite side. Now he found his center an put his foot behind him crossing it in a odd manner, an put his hands together as if he were praying.

"If the person who is casting the spell has a evil,sadistic reason to cast it, maybe that makes them a dark witch or wizard because they are willing to harm someone."
"Yes, good thoughts." she nodded.

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Jonathan arched an eyebrow. The next pose was much harder than the previous pose. Take left foot and hold it on the knee And then hands mid-level. This should be right, right? Jonathan's fee was a little bit shaking as well. Hard complicated poses.

What makes someone a dark witch or Wizard?

Jonathan raised his hand to answer and is trying to keep himself balanced at all times "Dark wizards or witches are those people who practices the use of dark arts for evil means" he answered. It could be of any form, for revenge, for settling a deal or maybe for just pure pleasure. Some people are just evil by nature.
"That is a general vay to look at it." she nodded and smiled. Simple yet accurate. "Good."

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Kurumi was relieved when they were allowed to put their foot down...only to find that they were picking it back up again and going into a different position. At least this one didn't seem to be all THAT bad in comparison. Having stabilized herself, Kurumi thought for a moment about the question being asked before raising her hand and, surprisingly, not wobbling.

"Professor, I don't think that casting a spell on it's own earns one the title of Dark Wizard, at least not in the sense that we all think of them. If simply casting a spell based on dark magic was enough, then people like Harry Potter, Hermione Granger, Albus Dumbledore, and the entire student body of Durmstrang would be considered dark wizards," she said, wobbling just a bit but managing to straighten herself out before it became too obvious. "That being said, one could argue that Durmstrang's students are dark wizards because they studies and practises the Dark Arts in school. I don't mean that they are evil and have malice behind their intent, but just trying to say that a Dark Wizard isn't exactly someone that fits into a cookie cutter mold." At least, in Kurumi's opinion. Basing a definition around feelings and emotions was always something she didn't really like and struggled with, which was hard and, sometimes, impossible when discussing the Dark Arts.
Medea couldn't help but quietly laugh at the cookie cutter comment. "They certainly don't." she smiled. "Perhaps, more of a mutated one vith odd angles and turns." Even then it probably wouldn't work.

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Amelia shifted into the new position and raised her hand to answer the next question asked. "I don't think using the spell itself makes it necessarily Dark. I think the intention does. If it's used in self defence for instance, that's an entirely different thing than casting it to just hurt someone for the sake of hurting someone." She thought back into history, and the fact that even Harry Potter, Ron Weasley, and Hermione Granger had used spells like the Unforgivable Curses when they had been young. And she knew that they were far from Dark Wizards.

"As I said before, we could all say Unforgivable Curses and none of them would work unless there was intention behind the words. Harry Potter himself had used a Unforgivable Curse, and he was far from a Dark Wizard."
"Indeed." she nodded.

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Zhenya had a moment to think whilst she got into this new position. It wasn't bad at all, except for the balancing, she was a bit wobbly but managed to stay up just fine. She was focusing on the Professor's hands.

"Professor, I believe what makes a witch or wizard dark is someone who primarily studies, practices and uses dark magic, so if you use a dark spell once, maybe out of self defence or something, it doesn't make you dark if you don't do it regularly," she thought. She wouldn't like to ever use dark magic, but if it was her family in danger then she supposed she could. "I also think it is your intention that might make it dark. If you try to cast something dark and you don't have enough intent then it might not work," she added.
Medea nodded a little. "Though if you do have enough intent? Vould that make someone dark? Take in mind, it also depends on the situation."

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Ellie folded her arms, rocking from heel to toe and smirking at the students wobbling to keep their balance. To answer the Professor's question from before? No, she would not be doing these yoga positions. They were pointless and everyone looked ridiculous. She refused to be part of that crowd.

To answer the Professor's current question, however, "It depends on intent. If they mean lasting harm on someone and perform the curse or others mutliple times, I'd say they were Dark. If it's someone using it once in more of a self-defense sort of way than a pointed attack, then they're...not dark." Just using a curse. Anyone could use a curse.
It seemed answers were all she was going to get. Good enough. Least the important part was being covered. "Indeed. Good." she nodded.

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Minerva got into the tree pose, but almost lost her balance. She put both feet back on the and retried this time it worked. She put up her hand. "Professor I don't think it is just the spell that makes a wizard dark. The spell is considered dark because in most cases it is used for evil or to harm. In some cases like the jinxes they are used well as jokes like some have said, but the more horrible ones like the curses the wizard has to be dark before using to the spell to even think about using it, especially one that will kill another wizard."
"The killing curse is indeed a very dark spell that one must...really mean to do to be executed correctly." Not something to be easily messed with. "Good thoughts."

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Sierra made a face as they were instructed to move into yet another weird position. What was the purpose of this anyway?! To torture them?! That had to be it! Sierra moved her body into the tree position then glanced up at the professor. Merlin, she'd be sore tomorrow! It was all the professor's FAULT, too!!!

Finally, her hand went up. "It's not just the spell that makes someone dark. The witch or wizard has to have an evil intent behind the casting, too," she explained. "They have to really want to hurt someone just for...well, no reason. Just to. That's what makes them dark."

So did that mean she could randomly cast a hex one some unsuspecting Puffer, and as long as she 'really didn't mean to hurt them', it wouldn't count?! Hmm... It was something to think about.
"Perhaps repeatedly casting vith the same intent, yes." she nodded. General overview. "Good."

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Beatrice sighed with relief as Professor Romanos asked them to put their feet down. She immediately stood up and bent down to massage her knees and legs. Maybe she could try and use some exercise before she attends the same class next time.

For there was still one more position. She followed the Professor's demonstration like so. She raised her other foot and held it against her knee. She swayed a bit but she kept herself together. Before answering the next question, she made sure she wouldn't fall down then she raised her hand, "Professor, as my classmates have said, it is not only the mere use of those spells that makes a with or wizard dark but also the intent," she rocked a bit on her position that made her lost balance. She hurriedly let go of her raised foot and stepped it back on the floor to support her from falling completely. "In addition to that, I believe that if doing so makes them happy or they enjoy it at the very least, they could really be considered dark." Because only dark wizards find happiness in harming others.
"That is generally the intent of the dark vitch or vizard." she nodded. They enjoyed the pain or torment it caused. "Good."

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Sophie actually thought this Tree Pose was one of the easiest ones. She didn't have a hard time raising her hand this time.

"I don't think so, ma'am. Sometimes we may have to use some of these spells to protect ourselves, for example! Or just to have some fun." she knew a couple of people in her own family that were not dark wizards and witches, but loved playing around with some of these spells they had just talked about. "I think that what makes someone a dark wizard or witch is their intention on using the spells... right?"
Just have some fun...

It better be those minor jinxes in which were fun.

"Yes, intent is a big factor. Good."


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Jezzabelle felt her balance wobble on this pose too. She really hoped this was the end of the complicated poses. Raising her hand she took a deep breath and then said, "I don't necessarily think that just because a witch or wizard uses a curse makes them dark. As I said, they have to really mean it. Really want to see someone hurt and not care about the repercussions." She placed her hand down hoping it would help with her balance.
"Vot if it was just a one time deal?" she asked. "Vould that still make them dark?"

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Gustav wondered if these poses was a way to learn how to multi-task. He did what he was told and did the tree pose. Balance...Balance....he thought to himself.
"For me, using dark curses does not necessarily mean they are bad witches or wizards...it is knowing the real intentions behind using such spells ...is it the purpose to kill another being just to bring them satisfaction or to protect in self-defense...it questions us really... because we do not know what exactly lies beneath the minds of the individual..." he said as he raised his head to answer.
Medea nodded. "Very good thoughts, Mister Ferrom. Keep those in mind."

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Aki tried the position their professor demonstrated, she started placing her foot in the position she almost fell down,

Oooops!I hope no one noticed..Focus Akira!Focus.. she thought.

Aki started relaxing her muscles while trying to maintain peace in her mind. Slowly, she was able to do the Tree Pose. She straightened her body just like what her mother did when she attends to the yoga classes.

Awesome.. she thought and smiled.

Then she raised her hand to answer the question,

"Professor, I don't think so, the dark spell isn't what makes the wizard a dark wizard but merely the intention in doing so. But sometimes in rare cases, it's the main reason why they turn to dark witches and wizards. They become so full of the dark spells that they're able to produce and so they become addicted to it, like they couldn't use their wands without producing dark spells..Well, that's my opinion."

After answering, she placed her hands together just as their professor instructed, relaxed and listened to what her classmates are answering.
Taking a deep breath, Medea nodded. That certainly was another way to put it. Mostly true too. "Yes the dark arts do tend to...take a hold of someone if they use it for too long. Good."

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One thing Hades was sure that his balance had improve. Final pose? There's more? Merlin, save them! Reluctantly, the fourth year copied the proffessor's pose. "Using dark magic doesn't make someone a dark wizard or witch. It depends on their intentions, I guess? In some occasions, good people might need to use dark magic. They don't do it to harm people. But it's different when it comes to dark wizard. Or witches. They want to hurt people using dark magic and that's what make them who they are, dark wizardsa and witches." It made sense, right? He just thought of it spontaneously.
"Indeed they do. Good." she nodded.

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Maxwell struggled with the pose because it had trouble holding is leg behind him. "Well, Professor I believe that would have more to do with that Witch or Wizards intentions and reasoning behind using any jix's, curses or hexes."
Medea nodded. "The intentions are an important factor, yes. Good."

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Harvey let go of his foot as instructed, he was hoping the lesson was over already.. that was until he was given another pose to do.. the tree pose.. reluctantly he did as he was told.. barely holding his balance.. before he lost it and had to put his other foot back down again to stop himself from falling over.. he tried again and this time he managed to keep the pose. He then put up his hand to answer the question "Professor I think it is the intention of causing grave harm to the other person using one of the 3 unforgivable curses that could automatically make them a dark person, or it could be someone who gets happy or finds pleasure in causing grave harm to another person using the spells. This could also make them a dark person automatically" he answered as he held the pose, he was trying hard to keep his balance..
"Someone who finds pleasure in causing harm to others certainly vill find themselves being labeled as dark. Especially vith the use of the unforgivables. Good." she nodded.

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So it was the last pose then. That's good since Tiffany just couldn't remain her balance when doing yoga though it was fun to try a bit of it. She let her legs go and did the tree pose as she looked at how the professor did that. Well...that's really hard to get balanced on her mat that she nearly fell down when she raised her hand and answered the question.

"Professor, I think it depends on their main purpose of using those spells. If they deliberately use them to harm or kill people, then they would be considered as dark witches and wizards,"she paused a bit."But I think that if they are not harming people on purpose, why should they use that kind of unforgivable curses but not other normal spells if they only want to defend themselves?"

After giving the answer, she focused on her balance work again, just hoping that she would not fall in front of the whole class.
"Why indeed. Most people, because they do not vish to harm intentionally, find other vays to take down their opponent vithout the use of dark spells, and even if they do use them, they are more of the mild ones such as the body-bind curse. Most often, the darker the spell, the more it becomes reserved for the darker person."

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Elise nodded and set her leg down with a heavily exaggerated thud. This was totally going to hurt in the morning. Her eyes widened as the Professor asked them to get into another position and groaned. No more!

Lifting her leg to her knee, she moved a little too quickly and had to resort to hopping around on one foot to keep from falling over. Hop. Hop. Stay. Calming down. Okay.

Placing her hands in the right position, she waited until she was stable before answering.

"It's not the spell that makes someone dark. It's the intent behind the spell, whether to injure or potentially kill the victim."
Putting her hand back where it should've been, she wobbled around before regaining balance.

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"Vot about the situation the person is in? Vot if that is THE only way to take down their opponent? Perhaps they are protecting someone other then themselves?"

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Silvia got into the new position. She had decent balance so it wasn't too hard. She raised her hand.

"I too think it is the caster's intent that really determines if the spell is dark. Some spells are just labeled dark because of how they were commonly used in the past and the fact that they can cause harm. But many of them can also be used for defense or even practical purposes. For example, the blasting curse could simply be used on a large boulder that is blocking your way, so long as everyone nearby stands far enough back to not get hit; and the leglock and body-bind curse could hinder someone from running off somewhere dangerous."
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"Phew! Tayla relaxed when the professor said they could let go of their foot. But before the ache went away, they were asked to make another pose. "All right. Just one more position..." Tayla thought, realizing yoga - or whatever this was supposed to be - was more tiring than she expected. At least it felt more tiring than the professor made it look!

Tayla took her foot once more and held it over her knee, like what was demonstrated. She struggled to keep her balance as Professor Romanos continued discussing and then asked the next question. After quickly raising her hand and putting it back in position to maintain her balance, Tayla replied, "No, Professor. It isn't just the spell that makes it dark. The witch or wizard who uses it factors in a great deal. There are those who truly enjoy hurting others. They take great satisfaction from the curses or jinxes, from seeing their victims suffer, hearing them scream or beg. I think this cruel intent makes the spell's effect darker and stronger."

Answering the question made Tayla's chest feel a bit heavy. She couldn't understand how anyone could feel that way, but she knew that, sadly, there were witches and wizards who were heartless and terribly cruel.
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'It is not the spell that makes a person dark, it is intent that matters. If someone uses a hex as defence that doesn't make him or her evil, but if they want to provoke pain and suffering on purpose, they are indeed Dark witches or wizards.' Ari thought for a moment and then added: 'But in the case of jinxes, not even intent makes you a Dark wizard. Jinxes are most oftenly used as pranks; for example, Jinxes and hexes were used a lot during Harry Potter's time at school with the intention of getting revenge on other students. Ginny Weasley was known for her Bat-Bogey Hexes, but that didn't make her a Dark witch.'
Medea nodded. She did enjoy the few answers that popped up, diving a little more deeper into the meanings and examples. "That is a very good example." she nodded. "Most commonly dark vizards or vitches go right for the curses though."



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"Perhaps." she nodded. "Though, there intentions then may be dark, but vot about other times in which he or she may use the spells? For example, protecting someone?"
Lily paused briefly before answering. "If they are using the spells to protect someone, their intentions wouldn't be dark anymore, they would be to protect the person. Though I think that someone who uses these types of spells for dark reasons and then for protection of others, may have some issues they need to sort out. I'm not sure they would really be considered dark if that was the situation, because they may just have anger issues, rather than being truly dark." Lily thought this was a pretty complete answer even if it was hard to follow. She just hoped that the professor understood where she was coming from with this.
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Zhenya considered the Professor's question for a moment. Hmm... "What I mean by what I said - is that there's the dark wizards who know how to cast the spells well, but there's the wizards that might now how they are cast but will never have enough intent to properly cast the spell, because they..." how could she explain it? "Umm.. because non-dark wizards don't sit around practising dark magic, therefore they don't know exactly how to cast it. Someone who isn't a dark wizard might try the spell at a time they think it is needed, like a family member being endangered, but because they aren't experienced or dark enough to truly want to harm the other person, the spell doesn't work. But if it does work, then I think it doesn't make a wizard dark because their intent came from their need to protect someone else," she explained.

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Ella smiled, red faced, at the professor. She was quite the cluts today! "I guess I think people who want revenge have been seriously damaged emotionally or physically by another person. This hurt drives them to do something that they might not have done in an everyday situation. I guess I don't necessarily think someone who uses them to get revenge is a dark witch or wizard...does that make any sense?"
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Medea nodded. "And perhaps if the vitch or vizard vos able to perform the spell correctly? Even for a first time. Vould that label them as dark?" Just something to think about.



Hmmm good. One step forward...

...and two steps back...

Oh look, another student was answering.




"Yes, defense is a good reason, but again, it depends on the intention. Trying to harm your opponent to the point where you aren't in danger anymore versus trying to disarm them in a vay where it's least likely to cause harm are two different stories."



Oops! Thank Merlin she'd remembered to put out these mats before the lesson. Too many students falling over. And a general answer. Okay. "Vot about if they were under the imperius curse? Or they were being blackmailed into doing so?"



Medea stared at the young girl for a moment before slowly nodding. "A vizard who protects others could hardly be called dark, but in vot situation vould one really need to use the unforgivable curses?" She was curious to know the girl's opinions.



"All good points. Good." she nodded. There wasn't anything she could think of that she could loop into what the kid said.



Yes?

Well...alrighty then.

"Any chance you can expand on that, Miss Carter?"




That last portion was quite a thinker. "That is an excellent point of view, Miss Skylar." she grinned and nodded. "I doubt even the most educated and wisest person in the vorld vouldn't be able to answer it. There is too much grey in between the dark and light to tell. Excellent thinking."



Medea nodded a little bit. "Those are good points. Ve all do make mistakes."



"Yes, negativity is a very large contributing factor." she nodded.



"That is true. You do have to take in account those grey areas that become a bit fuzzy when considering light from dark." she nodded.



"Yes, that is very vell put. Good." she nodded.



"Harming others and using magic to kill are contributing factors to vot determines a dark vitch or vizard, but not the only reason or vay one is 'dark'." she nodded. "Good point though."



"Yes, good thoughts."



"Mmhmm, intent is a good start vith dark vitches and vizards." she nodded. "Though like Mr. Hyde had said, some of us let the emotions get the best of us sometimes. Perhaps even enough to cast such spells as curses or the unforgivables, even if just for once. Perhaps, do you think repeated actions of this dark intent vould make the person dark?"



"Careful Miss Bishop." Thank Merlin class was almost over. Got through it without any injuries. "Good thoughts. Though vot about if revenge was put into play? Vot vould be the results then?"



Medea nodded. "Good thoughts."



"Perhaps." she nodded. "Though, there intentions then may be dark, but vot about other times in which he or she may use the spells? For example, protecting someone?"



"Yes, good thoughts." she nodded.



"That is a general vay to look at it." she nodded and smiled. Simple yet accurate. "Good."



Medea couldn't help but quietly laugh at the cookie cutter comment. "They certainly don't." she smiled. "Perhaps, more of a mutated one vith odd angles and turns." Even then it probably wouldn't work.



"Indeed." she nodded.



Medea nodded a little. "Though if you do have enough intent? Vould that make someone dark? Take in mind, it also depends on the situation."



It seemed answers were all she was going to get. Good enough. Least the important part was being covered. "Indeed. Good." she nodded.



"The killing curse is indeed a very dark spell that one must...really mean to do to be executed correctly." Not something to be easily messed with. "Good thoughts."



"Perhaps repeatedly casting vith the same intent, yes." she nodded. General overview. "Good."



"That is generally the intent of the dark vitch or vizard." she nodded. They enjoyed the pain or torment it caused. "Good."



Just have some fun...

It better be those minor jinxes in which were fun.

"Yes, intent is a big factor. Good."




"Vot if it was just a one time deal?" she asked. "Vould that still make them dark?"



Medea nodded. "Very good thoughts, Mister Ferrom. Keep those in mind."



Taking a deep breath, Medea nodded. That certainly was another way to put it. Mostly true too. "Yes the dark arts do tend to...take a hold of someone if they use it for too long. Good."



"Indeed they do. Good." she nodded.



Medea nodded. "The intentions are an important factor, yes. Good."



"Someone who finds pleasure in causing harm to others certainly vill find themselves being labeled as dark. Especially vith the use of the unforgivables. Good." she nodded.



"Why indeed. Most people, because they do not vish to harm intentionally, find other vays to take down their opponent vithout the use of dark spells, and even if they do use them, they are more of the mild ones such as the body-bind curse. Most often, the darker the spell, the more it becomes reserved for the darker person."



"Vot about the situation the person is in? Vot if that is THE only way to take down their opponent? Perhaps they are protecting someone other then themselves?"



Medea smiled and nodded. "Those are indeed very good examples. Now you're thinking." Gooooood.



"Yes, that is an excellent vay of putting it. Good." she nodded.



Medea nodded. She did enjoy the few answers that popped up, diving a little more deeper into the meanings and examples. "That is a very good example." she nodded. "Most commonly dark vizards or vitches go right for the curses though."



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Jezzabelle's balance gave way again but she had placed her foot down in time to catch herself before falling. Very good question was it not? Raising her hand because she wasn't sure if she had to or not. "Well...I would have to say that I would be wrong then." Never was admitting you were wrong an easy thing. "If it was a one time thing it would have to depended on the circumstances that surround the reason as to why they did in the first place and why they didn't do it again." Was that a good answer for the question she had been asked?
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Medea stared at the young girl for a moment before slowly nodding. "A vizard who protects others could hardly be called dark, but in vot situation vould one really need to use the unforgivable curses?" She was curious to know the girl's opinions.
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It was then she remembered what she had read about the Great Trio in the Hogwarts History. Didn't they too use the Imperious and Cruciatus curse? She answered, "Professor, in the battle of Hogwarts, the Trio and their teacher also used the Imperious and Cruciatus curse, but it was for good. So what I basically mean, is that in events of a fight of good and evil people, use of Unforgivable curses should be allowed for the good people..." Ira hoped she was making sense and was able to convey what she really thought. She continued, "And the good people do not enjoy the effects like pain and suffering, but instead they use it to remove evil from the world. So in such situations, they can't be considered Dark.."
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