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The charms classroom was clean and bright and ready for the first lesson of the year and Professor Schirmer was waiting at the front of the class for the students to arrive.
Was she in a good mood? Well she was ALMOST smiling, at least.
The desks are set up in the usual way, no funny business today.
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ooc: sorry for the time conversion confusion O_O I do not know how I got it so messed up, I'm totally usually an expert. I blame posting the notice before I was awake.
Don't worry if you can't join in from the beginning, this lesson will last through the weekend and this first post will be updated as the lesson progresses.
Questions so far: What should firsties know about charms? What do we know about incantations? How do we make a spell and its effects cease? Why do you think we will want to use Finite and NOT Finite Incantatem as the counterspell today? What do you know about Gripping Charms and what do you think they'd be useful for? The gripping charm you will learn today has the incantation 'Prehenso'. Can anyone guess how the meaning of this incantation relates to its purpose? Can you think of any related English words?
ooc instructions for practising activity can be found here and here
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Minerva couldn't believe that the first year Hufflepuff wouldn't stop. First she hugged the professor and now asking about a non related charms question. She looked at the girl and gave her a look that said to stop. She made a mental note to talk with her later. She then turned back the professor raising her hand. "Professor this incantation means to take hold. And English word that relates would be hold."
Asher was so excited, they really were going to do magic in their first lesson. He'd hoped so. Mostly because he told Anya they would.
Prehenso doesn't that translate to something like to catch or some thing? He slowly raised hand. "It has something to do with catching. And a word in English... mmm clench?" Well that was the first thing that he thought of.
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"The gripping charm you will learn today has the incantation 'Prehenso'. Can anyone guess how the meaning of this incantation relates to its purpose? Can you think of any related English words?"
Ah Latin. Yes, Selina could do that. In fact, Selina was thrilled with that aspect of Hogwarts. It seemed that every class, no matter what class it was, Latin was somehow mixed into the lesson. She loved the fact that she could do Latin like she could do at home with her Mum. So when her Professor brought up Prehenso Selina beamed... thank you Vergil's Aenid.
Her hand shot up in the air and said, "Profesor, Prehenso is a form of Prenso, are, avi, atum. It means to grasp or seize hold of, which would make sense with a gripping spell."
Eino was well aware that the incantation was in Latin, but Professor Schirmer asked them about how the words might related to English. So, he raised his hand and gave it his best shot. "It sounds an awful similar to the prefix 'pre' and the word 'hend' combined, which would mean something like 'to seize in advance' or 'to take before.' Maybe it is because the enchanted objection will be gripped before... it falls or drops?" He hadn't exactly thought it through, so the end was rather sloppy. He was still satisfied with his thinking process, it was the presentation that needed some sharpening up.
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Gustav couldn't help but chuckled softly when Laura went to hug the professor. Hufflepuff had been losing more points lately. But he stopped himself and returned to his notes. He wondered what the professor was talking about. "Prehenso?"he thought. He hadn't learn about it yet so he remained quiet while the rest answered. He knew the word because it was latin for "to hold or to clutch". He raised his hand to answer," Perhaps we can used a gripping charm? Prehenso is latin for "to clutch or to lay hold off"?" he asked the professor.
"The gripping charm you will learn today has the incantation 'Prehenso'. Can anyone guess how the meaning of this incantation relates to its purpose? Can you think of any related English words?"
Prehenso? Ira had never heard this word before! She didn't know the answer to this, so it was better if she kept quiet and listened to others.
And the only English word she could relate to Prehenso is Prehistoric, which surely did not have any relation to the spell at all!
Kennedy raised his hand, trying not to lose his train of thought. It's been happening a lot lately. "It sounds like prehension, which like Kurumi mentioned, could mean to grasp," he said, writing what he said down. He felt a small throb at his temple.
Nate raised his hand and said "I can relate prehenso to present so. So like if you want something present you can cast prehenso, when you're trying to catch the you want. You will catch it, and there for it will be present." Nate was hoping his answer would be near to correct.
Autumn thought the word over for a bit she raised her hand "Prehenso is the latin word for grab.. or something along that lines I think." It paid to be taught some latin in her muggle school, though she wasn't entirly sure she hoped this answer would earn her some praise or even better points
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"The gripping charm you will learn today has the incantation 'Prehenso'. Can anyone guess how the meaning of this incantation relates to its purpose? Can you think of any related English words?"
Sierra stared at the professor. The only Latin words she knew were the ones used for the most common of spells--and then the ones she'd managed to learn along the way. She had absolutely no idea how it related to any of the English words.
"I don't really know much about the word or any word that might relate to it," Sierra said, raising her hand. Truth, ...but that's what she was here for--to learn otherwise. She'd never even used or heard of the word prehension, which was what she'd heard a few others suggest. "You've already told us that we're learning a gripping spell, though, so I'm going to guess that Prehenso translates into something like grip or strong hold. So when you put that with the wand movements and your intent, it results in just what the word means--a grip or strong hold."
Hades continued to remain quiet as he wrote down notes when he knew that he can't rely on his memorisation ability forever. The look on his face didn't show that he was a mischievous boy. Instead, he looked more like a grown man ready to shoulder responsibilities. However, never judge a book by its cover. Ever.
Hades stopped writing and put down his quill when the professor asked about the Gripping Charm. He raised his hand mellowly. "Prehenso means 'capture' in Latin, wasn't it, ma'am?" he tried to confirm because he thought that he heard about it from his mother before. "It was invented so Quidditch players can catch the quaffle with a hand, but it can also be used on other things. For instance, when someone was hanging on a high place, they can use the charm to hold on to something," like a pipe.
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"Today we're going to learn a Gripping Charm." She paused. "What do you know about Gripping Charms, what do you think they'd be useful for?"
Kimalia had to politely cover her hand over her mouth to help prevent a giggle when a student went up to hug the Professor. Not a good idea, hehe.
Well, gripping mainly holds something secure. Something that Sierra had already mentioned was it being useful for Quidditch, making Kimalia look at her and nod in approval. Yep, yep, no need to give an answer already given. Next!
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Breathe, Althea.
"The gripping charm you will learn today has the incantation 'Prehenso'. Can anyone guess how the meaning of this incantation relates to its purpose? Can you think of any related English words?"
Raising her hand, since it had been a while, "Well, it sounds similar to the English word "Prehensile" which alludes to something being capable of grasping."
"The gripping charm you will learn today has the incantation 'Prehenso'. Can anyone guess how the meaning of this incantation relates to its purpose? Can you think of any related English words?"
Raising his hand, Christopher spoke up. "Prehenso means to grip, or take hold of, which makes sense, as it's a gripping spell," he answered, surprised he even knew the answer. Of course his father had taught him bits of Latin and other languages growing up, but he blamed this all on Selina. She never shut up about how wonderful Latin was, which he agreed with, although he'd never give her the satisfaction of knowing. Perhaps he rants around the house would prove useful after all. Maybe he should even start listening to them.
Nate had looked up enough Latin--and enough spells--over the summer to be able to guess this one, and even if he wasn't right he would be darn close. Might as well speak as though you know what you're talking about, though. Nate's hand went up and he replied, "Prehenso sounds like a conjugation of a Latin verb, meaning to catch, grab hold of, sieze, and the like."
It made sense to Nate, and apparently to the other students who were saying similar things...
"Prehenso actually means to grasp constantly. It's Latin," Jezzabelle said raising her hand. She felt like she was doing a good job now, but when it came time to actually perform she was going to fail horribly.
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"The gripping charm you will learn today has the incantation 'Prehenso'. Can anyone guess how the meaning of this incantation relates to its purpose? Can you think of any related English words?"
Prehenso? That reminds me of..!
"Monkeys!" he said excitedly, both hands straining as high into the air as possible. Keefer loved monkeys. "Sorry, I just mean that monkeys have prehensile tails, which they use to grip branches. So Prehens-o, Prehens-ile, I think the relation is quite clear," he finished, nodding his head.
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"The gripping charm you will learn today has the incantation 'Prehenso'. Can anyone guess how the meaning of this incantation relates to its purpose? Can you think of any related English words?"
Caass continued her furious note scribbling as she wrote down every single bit of information that she deemed useful.
Yes, yes. Gripping charms on quaffles, she learned about that in Flying class, not sure which though..
Then she raised her hand when Professor Schirmer asked about the incantation, Preheso. "It's Latin for grasp or take hold of." Any translation would be fine. Basically the same thing.
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"That's right, Miss Stone."
"That's exactly what its for."
"Hand, Miss Stewart-Quinn." Professor Schirmer reminded the Slytherin girl. "But yes, it is."
"The gripping charm and the Quaffle, yes. And if you've ever tried to play with an old Quaffle, the kind with the straps," As she had in a flying lesson once upon a time as a student, "You'll know that even the straps could be difficult to grasp at times, particularly if the weather was difficult." Which, well, Quidditch didn't let a little thing like weather get in the way, did it?
"There is a difference yes, the gripping charm allows for release, the sticking charm does not. And what you'll be 'gripping' isn't the important part, its the practical application of the charm that is important, as it isn't dependent on a specific object." Althea answered.
"Don't forget your hand." Last warning. "But yes, it does."
"Yes its very useful for climbing." Like the muggle spiderman.
"Yes its a very useful tool in a duel. Usually it would be part of an exception list if it was not allowed to be used. It makes it somewhat easier to avoid a disarming spell too." Mr Uronen was turning into her star pupil... for the day, at least.
"Right and..." Althea paused and then smiled. A real smile. "This particular gripping charm is not suitable for the abstract, but there are plenty of charms which alter mind and thought, it would be an interesting experiment to find a combination which would work." And not... backfire dangerously? That too.
"Right, Miss Greingoth." She smiled at the Slytherin.
"Right, Miss Carter." The 'claw got a nod.
She listened and nodded slightly. Was he... finished answering? It sort of sounded as if he had more to say. But no? Alright.
"Yes, Mr. Greingoth."
"That's true, Miss Wheatborn."
"Yes that's right."
"Good example." Althea answered with a nod.
"Yes, the Quaffle."
"Ten points from Hufflepuff for leaving your seat AND invading my personal space. You will go and inform your head of house why you've managed to lose points for your house as soon as the lesson ends, or I'll be taking more points from you." And she WOULD be checking.
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Breathe, Althea.
"The gripping charm you will learn today has the incantation 'Prehenso'. Can anyone guess how the meaning of this incantation relates to its purpose? Can you think of any related English words?"
Alyssa repeated the incantation silently in her mind. "Prehenso". After a few seconds of thought, Alyssa raised her hand."Professor, incantation Prehenso mean to capture or to hold. The only English word I can think that sounds close to that incantation is apprehend. The Prehen in the incantion Prehenso to the prehend in apprehend." Alyssa hoped her answer was correct.
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Breathe, Althea.
"The gripping charm you will learn today has the incantation 'Prehenso'. Can anyone guess how the meaning of this incantation relates to its purpose? Can you think of any related English words?"[/INDENT]
Prehenso? Prehenso? She was never good at Latin words and it seemed like one. Honestly, she didn't have any idea as to what that word meant.
"Prehenso.." she muttered, thinking hard of an english word that would somehow sound like it. "Prehen..Prehen..err--comprehend?" Beezus frowned. No, it was not comprehend. How would comprehend be connected to gripping?
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Raven raised her hand and answered the question. "Professor Schirmer, Prehenso means to hold. It similar with Prehension." she said.
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"The gripping charm you will learn today has the incantation 'Prehenso'. Can anyone guess how the meaning of this incantation relates to its purpose? Can you think of any related English words?"
Messer sighed in defeat when an older looking Hufflepuff called Professor Schirmer with Sir instead of Mam. What the girl was thinking and that cost them another 5 points. Could this day getting any worse?
Then out of nowhere another Hufflepuff girl gave the Professor a hug and that cost them another 10 points. Messer gave the girl a death glare. They already lost like 20 points or so in this lesson. She need to stop doing something that will cost them another house points.
The eleven years old boy raised his hand before he speaks "Isn't it Latin word for grasp, Professor?"
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"5 points from Hufflepuff for RUDENESS and calling me SIR!" REALLY. She huffed a bit then addressed the answer attempt. "That's not quite the right answer."
OOC: Sorry, it's just in my head everything 'Professor' is male. Did that in potions too last year
And that was the second time she had called a female professor 'sir'. The first was Lafay (she didn't get any minuses then), then Shirmer. Or was it Schirmer? Anyways, she wouldn't risk it to loose another 5 points by misspelling the Professor's name. She buried her head in her hands in embarrassment, promising that she would mince her words before jet-spraying them around.
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"Those of you who answered that Finite targets a specific spell on an object or individual and Finite Incantatem ends spell effects in the surrounding area are correct."
That hadn't been too painful, really.
"Today we're going to learn a Gripping Charm." She paused. "What do you know about Gripping Charms, what do you think they'd be useful for?"[/INDENT]
Janice decided thatshe will call each Professor 'Professor', not Sir, not Miss/Mrs/Ms. They might get offended again. She raised her hand and answered.
"Quidditch, Professor. It helps Chasers get a better grip on the Quaffle." And it had helped her a lot, too. In Quidditch, of course.
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Breathe, Althea.
"The gripping charm you will learn today has the incantation 'Prehenso'. Can anyone guess how the meaning of this incantation relates to its purpose? Can you think of any related English words?"
Nope, Janice couldn't answer that. Words started runnning down her brain, and most of them has the word 'comprehension' in it. And that would certainly not help her in answering the question asked. She decided to just stay put and wrote more notes based on what others had said.
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Breathe, Althea.
"The gripping charm you will learn today has the incantation 'Prehenso'. Can anyone guess how the meaning of this incantation relates to its purpose? Can you think of any related English words?"[/INDENT]
Zhenya had a nice long think... she wasn't immediately aware, so she put her thoughts into acceleration! She finally raised her hand, "Professor, I think Prehenso has a meaning of Taking hold; grasping and catching, which is what the spell allows you to do," she said.
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Breathe, Althea.
"The gripping charm you will learn today has the incantation 'Prehenso'. Can anyone guess how the meaning of this incantation relates to its purpose? Can you think of any related English words?"
Oooh the gripping charm? Sounded interesting.
As for Prehenso... "It has something to do with grip, I think," Nora said after raising her hand. Well, it was pretty obvious, since she had already told them that it was the gripping charm. Or maybe it had nothing to do with that?
Latin was not a language that Mike was too familiar with. Shoot, he could bearly get english down. "Think Mike, what could Prehenso sound like in english?" Mike thought out loud.
He raised his hand to answer the question. "Well I see Pre, which means before, I can't think of any english words that fit."
He dipped his head a little, hoping he was able to answer the question partially.
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