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Lislchen 02-17-2012 09:39 AM
*joins in* :D
 
Text Cut: Fina...I mean, Professor Hadley
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhoenixRising (Post 10916828)
Well someone at least had the courage. Even his answer hadn't been entirely complete. "Except you forgot one thing. Where you get the numbers. Which of course, you get the the numbers from the Pythagorean Number System." But as per usual, they wouldn't be doing their own surnames just yet.

"Because your family that you've formed here at Hogwarts is so important," at least Fina thought it was. "I'd like you to pick a famous historical figure from your house, be it your house founder, or just simply someone from history who was in your house who you find .... inspirational, and calculate their Family Name Number. Knowing that this number reveals one's inner subconscious response to life, how do you think their family name number fit in with the way their life led?"


ooc: you may use your house founder's name. A name in history. I don't want you using a name from Harry Potter's generation though, if you can help it. Try and think back farther if possible =).


Lewis had been taking notes thoroughly for the last couple of minutes, trying to write everything down what the professor said. Somehow this whole family talk made some of his fellow classmates quite sad. And some of them were excited. He just couldn't really care less. It wasn't as if he was particularly proud of coming from his family but then again he didn't resent it either, so. Whatever.

They were supposed to pick an important former member of their house? Who to pick, who to pick? He had finally come to terms that he was going to have to stay here at Hogwarts so in the end he had in fact read all there was - or at least all the he could find - on Hogwarts. And therefore also on Hufflepuff. Did the Fat Friar have a last name? Was it Friar?

In the end Lewis picked Artemisia Lufkin. Mainly because she had been his first chocolate frog card ever and he liked her story. Soooo, now on to the calculations.

SPOILER!!: Family Name Number

L U F K I N
3 3 6 2 9 5

28 -> 2+8 = 10 -> 1+0 = 1

ONE (1): You inherit an independent spirit, a forceful nature, a strong will, and the ability to come up with original ideas.


Well, that interpretation seemed quite appropriate to the first female Minister of Magic.

TakemetotheBurrow 02-17-2012 12:51 PM
Ella sat drumming her fingers no her desk, wondering who to pick from her house. She knew there were many great witches and wizards but was drawing a blank. Suddenly, as if a light bulb had gone off, Ella thought of someone. Duh! Helga Hufflepuff! She had founded the house so she was obviously the most important, right? With a person in mind, Ella began her calculations.

SPOILER!!: Calculation
Quote:
H--U--F--F--L--E--P--U--F--F
8--3--6--6--3--5--7--3--6--6
(8) +(3)+(6)+(6)+(3)+(5)+(7)+(3)+(6)+(6)
= 53
= (5+3)
= 8


Then when she had calculated a number, Ella pulled her book out.

SPOILER!!: Definition
Quote:
EIGHT (8): You inherit an attitude about money and power that will cause you to seek recognition in business and finance. Your family name brings you the qualities of leadership, organization, a high value placed on success, competency, and doing a job well, as well a possibly inflated ego.

Hey Ju 02-17-2012 01:16 PM
Sophie was eager to start. As soon as Professor Hadley gave the instructions, she started thinking about a famous Hufflepuff. She didn't want to use their founder's name, so she searched for some more Hufflepuffs in her mind. She remembered her father telling her once that Hogsmeade's founder was a Hufflepuff! Mr... something Woodcroft. Oh good! At least she remembered his last name!

Pulling her textbook closer, she opened it and started working.

Text Cut: Parchment

Woodcroft

5 + 6 + 6 + 4 + 3 + 9 + 6 + 6 + 2
47 = 4 + 7
11 = 1 + 1
2


She then looked at what it meant.

Text Cut:

Number 2
You inherit a peaceful nature, the desire to reduce conflict, a sensitivity to things, a gift for detail, a love of gathering things, and a loving nature.


Hm. Okay. Now wait for further instructions!

FearlessLeader19 02-17-2012 02:25 PM
Jory listened carefully to Professor Hadley's instructions before he began. He decided to use the Fat Friar and he hoped that was ok with the Professor.

Fat Friar
6+1+2+6+9+9+1+9
=43 =4+3
=7

Meaning: You inherit wisdom to be able to research and analise, you are investigative.

Bazinga 02-17-2012 02:29 PM
Major Catch up...
 
SPOILER!!:
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhoenixRising (Post 10915178)
Noticing a sweet chipper young puff enter the room, she nodded politely. "I'm alright. You know." She smiled, doing her best to conceal signs of fatigue.



And there was her captain. Of course. Why must people ask the obvious how are you? Scratching at her temple absently, she forced a smile at the sixth year too. "Alright. You know."



"Can't complain." Besides, not that anyone really, genuinely wanted to listen anyway, if she did.

Text Cut: helloooo!!!




















"Hello, good day..." she greeted politely back to those KIND, KIND students who decided to be simple and NOT nosy.




Again, another student asked how she was, and for the first time, Fina felt like snapping. But she didn't. "I'm alright." She said simply, instead.



Are you feeling alright? What kind of question was THAT? She felt like saying no, but again, stopped herself. "I'm pleasant enough to teach a lesson, if that's what you mean." In other words, she wasn't getting out of a lesson .....

.......

Once it appeared as if most of the students who normally attended her lessons were seated and had jotted down a few notes about the topic on the board, Fina rose from her own seat and stood, leaning back gently against her desk.

"We'll just get started then..." Fina said, flicking her wand and closing the door, she set her wand beside her on her desk, resting her hand over it. "So... Family... There's actually many different types of families. Please, feel free to name them as you think of them. Just name one type though...." Gotta give others a chance.


Minerva thought about her family and then she thought of the family that she had found this summer and put her hand up. "Professor I'm not sure what you would call this type of family, but it's people that your not related to at all. They are friends that take you in and protect you from danger and make you part of their family." yes that was a great family she thought.

SPOILER!!:
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhoenixRising (Post 10915409)
A taxonomic rank? Well then, someone was bitter clearly when it came to discussing families. "Perhaps true, but a family is also one of the best taxonomic ranks you'll have." Even if they didn't appreciate their family now, which many didn't, they would.



Dysfunctional family? Yes, she'd go for that one. "In some sense... I think that every type of family is dysfunctional. It doesn't matter whether it's step family, adoptive, biological.... there is dysfunction to families. And I also think that it's this dysfunction that makes ... families more ... real."



"Nuclear family. Or in other words, the biological family." The main sort of family, in some sense. You've got the mum, dad, and kids.



"Yes. That is definitely a type of family. It can be a single parent family for any number of reasons too..." Maybe one parent had a job traveling all the time. Or their parent died. Or their parents split up. Who knew?



"Extended family...yes... Because it's not just your immediate family that is family." Your aunts and uncles were family too, even if sometimes you wished they weren't.



Adoptive. Yes. For some reason or other, that actually made Hadley think on Hogwarts family. "Like your family here, at Hogwarts. In some sense or other, your Hogwarts family is like your adopted family." Truth. Really.



Why did the Gryffindor Prefect seem soo.... depressed when he talked about that? What was up with BOTH Gryffindor Prefects actually? Were they neglected children? For whatever the reason, Hadley couldn't put her finger on it.

But she nodded. That was a type of family, after all. Both types. The neglectful parents and then the childless parents.




Well then. Someone was ready to start working on numbers. "There are. There are also plants called families too." See! Herbology and Arithmancy WERE linked! If nothing else than the fact they both had families in common!



"Step-families are a type of family, so yes," Fina said, nodding at the Hufflepuff, curiously wondering about that too.



Adoptive families. Yes. Someone mentioned that already, so Fina just nodded about that.



But foster families. Now that on the other hand, was slightly different from adoptive. Kind of the same idea, but not. "Yes, foster families is a type of a family."



Most common, yes, was probably the nuclear. "But that doesn't mean that the other types of families don't exist." Besides someone mentioned nuclear family already.


***

Right then. Now that they had some ideas and views about types of families that existed in the world .... "Family comes from the Latin word, familia and in essence it is a group of people affiliated in some way or another, either by co-inhabiting the same residence, biologically related through marriage, or sometimes even friendships can be construed as a family." Hadley paused a moment. "Families, yes, while traditionally speaking they are a mother, father, and children.... as your basic nuclear family, can be anything. They can be your role models. They can be your teammates. Your housemates. Your neighbors. Your pets. Family is, really anything you want it to be. It's not just about living under the same roof and sharing DNA, but it's about affiliation. Connection. Mutual love and respect for one another."

She paused again, looking around the room. "So before we get to the calculations involved in today's lesson, I want you to write your own surname down on your parchment and come up with a word or phrase for each each letter in your surname. In an acrostic style. Something that you think is important to you or your family. I'll put an example of my own name on the board."
Heartwarming
An Italian
Deliberate in actions
Lovely. Most of the time.
Even can relate to you.
Your turn now!


ooc: so yea, do a line-down acrostic with your surnames and traits that YOU think your character's family holds. No numbers .... yet. You'll have ... until sometime tomorrow, the 16th to work on this. At least 8 hours ....


Warm Hearts
Happy
Energetic
American
Typical family
Bubbly
On time
Real fun
Neat freaks
Minerva struggled with a few letters. Then she couldn't help but smile thinking of her family. She then thought of last term and their poem they had to write in the class and she glanced at Harvey. At least she wouldn't be embarrassed if they read them out loud this term.

SPOILER!!:
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhoenixRising (Post 10916769)
As Josephina walked around the room and glanced at the student's poetry, she couldn't help but notice how some of them seemed rather serious and melodramatic, whilst others ... were just ... positive radiance. Some students obviously thought well of their families, others, not so much.

"So now that we've got some basic ideas behind what we think our surnames mean just from our own personal experiences with our families, let's add numbers into the mix." Of course. Because this wouldn't be a lesson about the mysteries of numbers with them. "In case you haven't realized it by now, one of the numbers we're going over today is the Family Name Number, which as you may have guessed, uncovers information contained in your surname. You calculate this number ... how?"


Minerva put her hand up. "Professor to find the calculation we have to find the numbers for our last name and add them together. Once we get that single number we can find out what it means." every calculation had a meaning and that was the best part.

SPOILER!!:
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhoenixRising (Post 10916828)
Noticing Kurumi's silence, Fina looked at the fifth year curiously as she began to jot down notes. To which she couldn't help but peer over the girl's shoulder and nod, somehow wishing that the prefect would discover the courage to voice out her answers.



Well someone at least had the courage. Even his answer hadn't been entirely complete. "Except you forgot one thing. Where you get the numbers. Which of course, you get the the numbers from the Pythagorean Number System." But as per usual, they wouldn't be doing their own surnames just yet.

"Because your family that you've formed here at Hogwarts is so important," at least Fina thought it was. "I'd like you to pick a famous historical figure from your house, be it your house founder, or just simply someone from history who was in your house who you find .... inspirational, and calculate their Family Name Number. Knowing that this number reveals one's inner subconscious response to life, how do you think their family name number fit in with the way their life led?"


ooc: you may use your house founder's name. A name in history. I don't want you using a name from Harry Potter's generation though, if you can help it. Try and think back farther if possible =).


Minerva thought about different names and then she decided to just pick the obvious one even though others probably did it as well. Helga Hufflepuff. She took out her parchment and began to calculate
Parchment:
SPOILER!!:

H U F F L E P U F F
8 3 6 6 3 5 7 3 6 6

8+3+6+6+3+5+7+3+6+6=53
5+3=8
Family Number is 8


Minerva looked in her book and read what 8 meant.
Book
SPOILER!!:
EIGHT (8): You inherit an attitude about oney and power that will cause you to seek recognition in business and finance. Your family name brings you the qualities of leadership, organization, a high value placed on success, competency, and doing a job well, as well a possibly inflated ego
Interesting Minerva thought.

Devina Wellheart 02-17-2012 03:19 PM
Justin sat and thought of his family...The oddity of it and how his was so much different than the conventional idea of what a family is.As he thought on it he began to make a list.

Fiercly protective
Welcoming
Loving
Compassionate
amazingly optimistic
Proper to a fault

As Justin listed a few things the professor said they'd be exploring the meanings of their surnames...and of course calculations would be needed to do so.

Then they had to pick someone who was from there houses...of histrorical import... So, Justin thought of only one person....a distant cousin that would've been great if only not taken too soon. On his parchement he wrote out his calculation.
SPOILER!!: Parchement

D I G G O R Y
4+9+7+7+6+9+7=49
4+9=13
1+3=4
Family number is 4


Then he opened his textbook to find out what the meaning was. as he read along he wrote that down on his sheet of parchement as well.
SPOILER!!: parchement

You Inherit the belief that hardwork is the right way to work, a sense of cautiousness, thuroughness and self discipline.

Somnium 02-17-2012 05:45 PM
Taylor didnt want to fall back on the founder so she thought about it and remembered that Laverne de Montmorency was a ravenclaw. She smiled.
SPOILER!!: Calculations

de Montmorency
4+5+4+6+5+2+4+6+9+5+5+3+7=65
6=5=11
1+1=2
Two: You inherit a peaceful nature, the desire to reduce conflict, a sensitivity to things, a gift for detail, a love of gathering things, and a loving nature.

Taylor didnt know what 2 stood for so she looked it up in her textbook and copied it down into her notes.

Holmesian Feline 02-17-2012 08:40 PM
Professor Hadley confirmed what he knew though adding where to get the numbers from to assign to the letters. Well he knew that...he just hadn't mentioned the obvious. At least obvious to him as one of those older student who had been dealing with the class for a year or more already.

When they moved into the actual calculations, Gideon had thought they might be working on their own surnames but instead they were instructed to work on a famous person from Gryffindor House. Thinking on the idea, he wondered if his Great Grand Aunt would be acceptable to use. Not that she wasn't famous but that she was indeed family. He finally figured he might as well try it out and of Hadley didn't approve he could do another. So picking up his quill once more, the fifth year went to work, careful to spell the last name correctly.

Quote:
Family Name Number
McGonagall
4+3+7 +6+5+1+7+1+3+3 =40
4+0=4
Four...that was the number he got with his math. So Gideon looked to the textbook for the reading associated with the number four under the family name number chapter. Finding it, he read it through, thinking on how it fit.

Quote:
FOUR (4): You inherit a belief that hard work is the right way to work, a sense of cautiousness, thoroughness, and self-discipline.

Uncle Moose 02-17-2012 11:36 PM
Hmm so they needed a famous historical figure from their house? Oakey wasn't to keen on Historical Figures but had remembered Granny Gunter always talking about how her husband always was such a history buff and that he knew everything there was to know about Grogan Stump a former Minister of Magic who belonged to the Hufflepuff house.

Quote:
Stump
1+2+3+4+7=17
1+7=8
8

EIGHT (8): You inherit an attitude about money and power that will cause you to seek recognition in business and finance. Your family name brings you the qualities of leadership, organization, a high value placed on success, competency, and doing a job well, as well a possibly inflated ego.
Oakey set his quill down and mentally laughed at the thought that this would fit any Minister of Magic.

DarkStorm 02-18-2012 12:54 AM
Text Cut: Professor Hadley and Minnie
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhoenixRising (Post 10916828)
Noticing Kurumi's silence, Fina looked at the fifth year curiously as she began to jot down notes. To which she couldn't help but peer over the girl's shoulder and nod, somehow wishing that the prefect would discover the courage to voice out her answers.



Well someone at least had the courage. Even his answer hadn't been entirely complete. "Except you forgot one thing. Where you get the numbers. Which of course, you get the the numbers from the Pythagorean Number System." But as per usual, they wouldn't be doing their own surnames just yet.

"Because your family that you've formed here at Hogwarts is so important," at least Fina thought it was. "I'd like you to pick a famous historical figure from your house, be it your house founder, or just simply someone from history who was in your house who you find .... inspirational, and calculate their Family Name Number. Knowing that this number reveals one's inner subconscious response to life, how do you think their family name number fit in with the way their life led?"


ooc: you may use your house founder's name. A name in history. I don't want you using a name from Harry Potter's generation though, if you can help it. Try and think back farther if possible =).
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bazinga (Post 10917083)

Minerva thought about her family and then she thought of the family that she had found this summer and put her hand up. "Professor I'm not sure what you would call this type of family, but it's people that your not related to at all. They are friends that take you in and protect you from danger and make you part of their family." yes that was a great family she thought.



Warm Hearts
Happy
Energetic
American
Typical family
Bubbly
On time
Real fun
Neat freaks
Minerva struggled with a few letters. Then she couldn't help but smile thinking of her family. She then thought of last term and their poem they had to write in the class and she glanced at Harvey. At least she wouldn't be embarrassed if they read them out loud this term.



Minerva put her hand up. "Professor to find the calculation we have to find the numbers for our last name and add them together. Once we get that single number we can find out what it means." every calculation had a meaning and that was the best part.



Minerva thought about different names and then she decided to just pick the obvious one even though others probably did it as well. Helga Hufflepuff. She took out her parchment and began to calculate
Parchment:
SPOILER!!:

H U F F L E P U F F
8 3 6 6 3 5 7 3 6 6

8+3+6+6+3+5+7+3+6+6=53
5+3=8
Family Number is 8


Minerva looked in her book and read what 8 meant.
Book
SPOILER!!:
EIGHT (8): You inherit an attitude about oney and power that will cause you to seek recognition in business and finance. Your family name brings you the qualities of leadership, organization, a high value placed on success, competency, and doing a job well, as well a possibly inflated ego
Interesting Minerva thought.


Just as Harvey had finished his acrostic.. he couldnt help but feel that he was being watched or at least someone was looking at him.. so he looked around to see who it could be.. but upon looking around there was no-one looking at him.. they were all working on the acrostic or were waiting for the class to move on.. but he was sure that someone had been watching him or if not that then looking at him.. but he shook this feeling away he was just being silly.. if Gem was here in class then he would understand that.. but she wasnt.. so there was no-one else.. unless.. he then looked at Minnie.. she was finished and waiting for the class to move on.. nah.. she wouldnt look at him.. she had Justin now.. nah he was just being silly... He then listened as the professor spoke about the family name number.. and how at Hogwarts every claw was family and that they were to pick someone from history that was in their house that they found inspirational.. now Harvey being a muggle-born did not know anyone from his house except its founder.. he had never really read up on who else in history was a Ravenclaw.. so he decided to go with its founder.. Rowena Ravenclaw.. so he picked up his quill and set to work..

SPOILER!!: Harvey's Parchment
Family Name Number

Rowena Ravenclaw

RAVENCLAW

(9+1+4+5+5+3+3+1+5)=

(9+1)=10 (10+4)=14 (14+5+5)=24 (24+3+3)=30 (30+1+5)=36

3+6=9

Family Name Number = 9


He then opened up his book to look up the meaning of this number

SPOILER!!: Number 9 Meaning
NINE (9): You inherit an artistic flair, a concern for others, an emotional nature, generosity, a sense of needing to serve, a philanthropic nature, and an attitude of looking for what is possible.


He read this and wondered if this applied to the founder.. if Rowena Ravenclaw was like this.. as he read it he realised one other thing.. this may or may not apply to the founder of his house.. but it somewhat applied to Harvey himself.. he was always concerned for others, he too had an emotional nature. He was very generous, yeah he always felt that he wanted to help all that were around him and many of them knew this and HAD in fact experienced him helping them.. so this was 50% or so him.. well.. he didnt expect that now.. well he had done it.. he then waited for the professor to move on with the lesson.. but he couldnt help but study that meaning further as he waited..

hpluvr037 02-18-2012 04:22 AM
Text Cut: Best HoH ever
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhoenixRising (Post 10916828)
"Because your family that you've formed here at Hogwarts is so important," at least Fina thought it was. "I'd like you to pick a famous historical figure from your house, be it your house founder, or just simply someone from history who was in your house who you find .... inspirational, and calculate their Family Name Number. Knowing that this number reveals one's inner subconscious response to life, how do you think their family name number fit in with the way their life led?"


So... she didn't want them to use their own names yet? Well. She's right about at least one thing. Hufflepuff has become a second family to me. In a way he never could've expected.

So, who are some famous Hufflepuffs? Obviously Professor Longbottom, Cedric Diggory.. Helga Hufflepuff. But he wanted to use someone a bit less obvious. Oo, how about Newt Scamander?

A bit unsure of how to spell his name, he pulled out his Care of Magical Creatures textbook, which he happened to have with him. Yup, Scamander. He scribbled this name at the top of his parchment. Alright, now to assign numbers.

Text Cut: Keefer's notes
SCAMANDER
1 + 3 + 1 + 4 + 1 + 5 + 4 + 5 + 1
Add: 4 + 5 + 6 + 10 --> 9 + 16 --> 25
Reduce: 2 + 5 = 7
Family Name Number = 7


He perused the discussion in the text about what this meant. Well, his parents did instill in him a drive to learn all he could and do a good job in hi work. The observation, analysis, and perfectionism bit was all part of taking care of his hundreds of Abraxans. Though I'm not sure, then, if it comes with the job or from the family...

He wasn't sure how he felt about sharing the results aloud. He didn't mind if Hadley saw, but he wasn't going to blab it about for all the hear. This felt more... personal than usual. Wow, maybe I feel the need for privacy more than I thought! He laughed despite himself.

Gabrielle 02-18-2012 04:55 AM
Glenn nodded to the teacher and turned over the page of her journal to a fresh page with no ink yet on the page. After, she took out her textbook from her bag and found the page that explained the family numbers. She completed her own quickly, curious to what it would mean before moving on to what their activity really was.

SPOILER!!: Glenn's Journal

R E Y E S
9 5 7 5 1
9+5+7+2+1=24
2+4=6

SIX (6): You inherit a conservative attitude that sees helping others as the responsible thing to do. You are an excellent problem solver and are family-oriented. You may have inherited a stubborn streak as well as strong opinions.


She thought hard about who she could use for her famous Hufflepuff member. Hmm. Oh! She had one that was very relevant to Arithmancy.

SPOILER!!: Glenn's Journal 2

W E N L O C K
5 5 5 3 6 3 2
5+5+5+3+6+3+2=29
2+9=11

ELEVEN (11/2): You inherit the ability to uplift, encourage, and inspire others. Your family name brings with it a sensitivity to others and the desire for spiritual living. You will learn from life through many tests that illuminate certain universal truths.


Oh, that seemed right. Universal truths counted as the properties of the number 7 too, right?

slytherus 02-18-2012 05:19 AM
There wasn't anything that distracted Hades today. It was good that he finally paid attention in class. Although it was most unlikely to last long. Soon, something was definitely going to pop up inside his head and usually, those things never did any good to others.

Head lowered, the blonde was scribbling down on a piece of parchment. At some times, he'd stop writing as he made a mental calculation before he continued to write.

SPOILER!!: Hades' parchment
P E V E R E L L
7 + 5 + 4 + 5 + 9 + 5 + 3 = 38
3 + 8 = 11


After setting down his quill, Hades pulled his textbook and flipped to chapter twenty seven. Number eleven... Let see...

"You inherit the ability to uplift, encourage, and inspire others. Your family name brings with it a sensitivity to others and the desire for spiritual living. You will learn from life through many tests that illuminate certain universal truths."

That sounded accurate when it comes to the Peverell brothers.

AlwaysSnapesGirl 02-18-2012 05:21 AM
A famous Ravenclaw in history, hm? Vashti had no trouble thinking of several, not including the obvious Rowena and Helena Ravenclaw, but she wasn't sure which of them to pick. There were many interesting and important former Ravenclaws, but she really didn't want to calculate all of their Family Name Numbers. So after a bit of thought, she decided to pick Millicent Bagnold.

Text Cut: calculations
Millicent Bagnold
B + A + G + N + O + L + D
2 + 1 + 7 + 5 + 6 + 3 + 4
28
2 + 8
10
1 + 0
1
ONE (1): You inherit an independent spirit, a forceful nature, a strong will, and the ability to come up with original ideas.


That definitely seemed to fit with what she knew of the woman. Dipping her quill in ink again, Vashti wrote down how the number's meaning fit.

Text Cut: Connecting textbook meaning with real life
I chose Millicent Bagnold, the woman who was Minister for Magic from 1980 to 1990. She was Minister when Lord Voldemort was defeated the first time and during the time after when his Death Eaters were being rounded up. Her Family Name Number is one, which fits, I think. I'd say she'd definitely have to have a 'forceful nature' and a 'strong will' to deal with the chaos the Ministry dealt with during that time period, and she'd have to be capable of coming up with new, original ideas to help deal with what was going on as well as continue to run the rest of Great Britain. She also defended the celebrations that went on when Voldemort was destroyed, with the statement, "I assert our inalienable right to party." I think that definitely shows her independent and forceful nature since she was willing to temporarily defy the laws set by the International Statute of Wizarding Secrecy. Plus, everyone knows Ravenclaws throw the best parties.


That last part didn't really apply to the meaning of the number, but Vashti felt it ought to be added anyway. Because it was true.

affy7ann 02-18-2012 06:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhoenixRising (Post 10916769)
As Josephina walked around the room and glanced at the student's poetry, she couldn't help but notice how some of them seemed rather serious and melodramatic, whilst others ... were just ... positive radiance. Some students obviously thought well of their families, others, not so much.

"So now that we've got some basic ideas behind what we think our surnames mean just from our own personal experiences with our families, let's add numbers into the mix." Of course. Because this wouldn't be a lesson about the mysteries of numbers with them. "In case you haven't realized it by now, one of the numbers we're going over today is the Family Name Number, which as you may have guessed, uncovers information contained in your surname. You calculate this number ... how?"
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhoenixRising (Post 10916828)

"Because your family that you've formed here at Hogwarts is so important," at least Fina thought it was. "I'd like you to pick a famous historical figure from your house, be it your house founder, or just simply someone from history who was in your house who you find .... inspirational, and calculate their Family Name Number. Knowing that this number reveals one's inner subconscious response to life, how do you think their family name number fit in with the way their life led?"
Tayla listened to the professor and her classmates, and opened her textbook to chapter twenty-seven. She read quietly. "The Family Name Number is calculated by assigning each letter in the surname with the appropriate number, then adding those numbers together and reducing the sum to a single digit, unless we get a Master Number, in which case we do not reduce."

Tayla decided to use her house founder's last name. She loved being a Gryffindor and was curious to know what the meaning of it's family name number would be. She took her quill and started to calculate.

SPOILER!!: Tayla's Arithmancy Notebook; page one

FAMILY
- a group of people who love each other unconditionally
- annoying sometimes but you care about them anyway
- people you can count on always
- people who will never leave you behind or forget you (Ohana!)

Family
- from Latin 'familia'
- a group of people affiliated in some way, either by co-inhabiting the same residence, biologically related, through marriage, even friendships
- traditionally: father, mother, and children
- nuclear familiar: role models, teammates, housemates, neighbors, pets
- not just about living under the same roof or sharing DNA; about affiliation, connection, mutual love and respect

Types of Families
- nuclear family
- conjugal family
- extended family
- stepfamily
- traditional family


British and Canadian blood

April and Tayla, the siblings

Respect

Nicole and Matthew, the parents

Happiness

Include the pets Marigold and Cadbury!

Love

Live in both Muggle and Wizarding worlds



SPOILER!!: Tayla's Arithmancy Notebook; page two


Family Name Number
-- textbook: Chapter Twenty-Seven

G R Y F F I N D O R

7 + (1+8) + (2+5) + 6 + 6 + 9 + (1+4) + 4 + (1+5) + (1+8)
7 + 9 + 7 + 6 + 6 + 9 + 5 + 4 + 6 + 9
= 68
= (6+8)
= 14
= (1+4)
= 5



After finishing her calculations, she consulted her textbook. Then she raised her hand. "Professor, if my calculations are correct, the family name number for 'Gryffindor' is five. According to our textbook, a five reveals that," she paused and started to read. "You inherit a belief that you shouldn't be fenced in, for you are a free spirit. Restrictions, limitations, routine challenge you. Travel and change are easy for you, and you are innately curious and a risk taker." Tayla looked up again and continued to speak. "I'm not sure if it describes Godric Gryffindor completely well, but I think him being a free spirit and a risk taker is quite true."

hpluvr037 02-18-2012 04:20 PM
Keefer looked over his calculations again and realized he had made a mistake. Shoot, I assigned R to 1... it's supposed to be a 9... So it was time to start over again. Which was a shame really, because the number he had found fit his family fairly well.

Text Cut: Notes 2.0
SCAMANDER
1 + 3 + 1 + 4 + 1 + 5 + 4 + 5 + 1 9
Add: 4 + 5 + 6 + 9 + 9 --> 9 + 15 + 9--> 18 + 15 --> 33
Reduce: 2 + 5 = 7 3 + 3 = 6
Family Name Number = 7 6


He looked at the new meaning. Well, I do see helping others to be a priority.. which is probably why I got Sorted in Hufflepuff... And our family is definitely family-oriented! Another helped toward his Sorting, most likely. Though our family is pretty chill. I wouldn't say there is a stubborn streak anywhere, and we also aren't very vociferous about strong opinion. All in all, he thought the first number suited them better.

Then he happened to glance at the heading of his work. "Scamander. Wooooow... I was interpreting this in light of my own family both times." His cheeks flushed, he suddenly felt quite stupid.

Upon further reflection, he felt that a lot of the analysis he just did could be generalized. Many of these are Hufflepuff qualities, so I'm not surprised Scamander would be here. Family orientation, the importance of helping others, even problem solving skills. Yeah, a lot of it fits!

Semi-redemption!

RachieRu 02-18-2012 04:30 PM
Okaay. Time to calculate this number. That should be fun. Indiana found she was used to the calculations now, which made her happy. She was glad that she could do arthimancy well. It had kind of confused her in her first year, but now she was good at it. Well when she was able to count she was anyway. But first she needed to think of a historical figure in her house. Ravenclaw. The best house there was. Obviously. Hmm. Rowena Ravenclaw would do. She was nice. Indiana wrote her name onto the top of her parchment, under the title of family number. Okay. Now, she set about doing the calculation.

SPOILER!!: parchment
Family Name Number for Rowena Ravenclaw
R A V E N C L A W
9 + 1 + 4 + 5 + 5 + 3 + 3 + 1 + 5 = 36
3 + 6 =9

Quote:
NINE (9): You inherit an artistic flair, a concern for others, an emotional nature, generosity, a sense of needing to serve, a philanthropic nature, and an attitude of looking for what is possible.


Hmm. Now did the interpretation suit Rowena. Indiana mused, looking down, and reading what it was. Maybe. Generosity surely would. Rowena had been a ravenclaw after all, so like Ravenclaws must be generous, they were pretty epic. She wasn't too sure about the rest, but some of them definetly suited the Ravenclaw house. So things were good right?

Anna Banana 02-18-2012 05:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhoenixRising (Post 10916828)
Well someone at least had the courage. Even his answer hadn't been entirely complete. "Except you forgot one thing. Where you get the numbers. Which of course, you get the the numbers from the Pythagorean Number System." But as per usual, they wouldn't be doing their own surnames just yet.

"Because your family that you've formed here at Hogwarts is so important," at least Fina thought it was. "I'd like you to pick a famous historical figure from your house, be it your house founder, or just simply someone from history who was in your house who you find .... inspirational, and calculate their Family Name Number. Knowing that this number reveals one's inner subconscious response to life, how do you think their family name number fit in with the way their life led?"
Sierra looked from Gert to the professor as both of them started to explain the Family Name Number. It sounded easy enough, which was the good thing about Arithmancy. Sierra didn't think there were many good things about the subject, but at least the calculating part was easy.

Even if it did take years to do...

Okay, so she needed someone in her house, someone really old... Remembering one of the portraits hanging up around the castle, Sierra began to calculate the Family Name Number for Elizabeth Burke.

B U R K E
2 3 9 2 5

2 + 3 + 9 + 2 + 5= 21
2 + 1 = 3

Sierra double-checked her calculations then looked back to see what a number three meant.

THREE (3): You inherit a fun-loving, optmistic nature, a sense of humor, and a creative spirit.

Hmm. Sierra really didn't think the number three fit in with what she'd heard about Elizabeth Burke.

Supposedly, Burke was a pureblood who encouraged other purebloods to make fun of Muggles and call them a mudblood. I don't think a number three fits in well with her personality... Somehow, I just don't think many people would agree to her being fun-loving, optimitic, having a great sense of humor, or having a creative spirit.

PhoenixRising 02-19-2012 02:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FireboltAvis88 (Post 10916853)
Alyssa quickly jotted down what everyone was saying. She knew about how to calculate family numbers but since everybody had given the answer, she wasn't going to repeat herself. She knew that you assigned numbers to her last name using the Pythagorean Number System and added them up using the reducing method until you came up with one number or if it was a Master number then you didn't reduce it any further.

Then she heard the Professor tell them that they needed to pick somebody historical from their house and calculate their family name number. Hufflepuff. Who was famous and inspirational in Hufflepuff? Alyssa knew that most likely everybody would pick Helga Hufflepuff, so she decided to dig further back in history. Then she remembered Newton "Newt" Scamander. He wrote the book Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them, which was still used by all the students in Hogwarts. She had just finished reading that book in the Hufflepuff study tables a couple of weeks ago.

Taking out a parchment paper, Alyssa quickly calculated his Family Name Number.

Text Cut: Alyssa's calculations


1---2---3---4---5---6---7---8---9
A---B---C---D---E---F---G---H----I
J---K---L---M---N---O---P---Q---R
S---T---U---V---W---X---Y---Z

S C A M A N D E R
1+3+1+4+1+5+4+5+9
=33


Alyssa was going to reduce it further before she remembered that 33 was a Master Number. Referring to her textbook she wrote down what the number represented.

Alyssa realized that the Newt Scamander's family name number totally represented what he did in his life. His interests in beasts was encouraged by his own mother who bred Hippogriffs. He spent so much of his life travelling the globe, scouring for the existence of magical creatures all over the world. He just didn't keep all this knowledge to himself. He shared it will all the wizarding population. He spent his life dedicated to the study of magical beasts, Magizoology.

Alyssa wasn't sure whether she was supposed to provide her answer now, but raised her hand anyway and waited for the Professor to acknowledge her.
And now was the time to walk around and check student's work. Noting Alyssa's hand raise first, Fina approached the third year and looked over her work. Scamander; interesting choice and she had to hand it to the girl for not picking the first to pop into her head, which likely would have been Helga.

And she even got the fact that Scamander had a Master Number. "Good, good."

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steelsheen (Post 10916864)

Famous historical Ravenclaws? Vickers paused for a moment then looked around at the other students in blue robes. What are the chances that they would all be figuring out Rowena or Helena Ravenclaw's name? Vickers dug through his bag and pulled out his textbook, leafing through historical figures who's Hogwarts house was fortunately mentioned.

Then he came across the name of Garrick Ollivander. He was Ravenclaw? But of course he would! That would make so much sense why his wands were the best.

Vickers started scribbling the famed wandmaker's name down, and started to do the calculations. When finished, he flipped open his Arthmancy book and noted down what the number equivalency meant....

Wow would you look at that...

Vickers raised his hand on the Professor's question "Professor, the Ravenclaw figure I selected is Garrick Ollivander. His family name number is 4, and it does fit him rather well because it was through hard work, thoroughness and self-discipline that he became the best wand maker this side of the Magical World. "
Another non-ordinary historical figure was selected. Ollivander. "Yes, yes, good job and I do quite agree with you that his Family Name number was quite fitting for what he became in this world."

Quote:
Originally Posted by sweetpinkpixie (Post 10916867)
Kurumi noticed Professor Hadley give her a look, and the prefect wasn't sure how to take that particular look. She had the feeling that the Arithmancy professor was getting the wrong impression about her from this lesson...but matter of the family were really really hard to stomach right now.

Which is why come color returned to her face when she heard about just whose number they were going to be calculating right now. Someone from Gryffindor House? Kurumi's thoughts instantly went to one person who was actually still at the school and played an important role.

With the faintest of smiles tickling the corners of her lips, Kurumi set to working on her calculations.
SPOILER!!: Kurumi's parchment

1---2---3---4---5---6---7---8---9
A---B---C---D---E---F---G---H----I
J---K---L---M---N---O---P---Q---R
S---T---U---V---W---X---Y---Z

Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington
(4+5)+(4+9+4+1+7)+(7+0+9+7+9+5+7+2+6+5)=
(9)+(25)+(57) = 9 + 7 + 12 = 9+7+3 = 19 = 1+9= 10 = 1

ONE (1): You inherit an independent spirit, a forceful nature, a strong will, and the ability to come up with original ideas.


Setting her quill down, Kurumi thought for a moment. That seemed to be rather fitting for what she knew about Sir Nicholas, but she couldn't help but laugh at the mention of spirit in the description since, well, he WAS a spirit now.

Hey, had she just laughed? Even if it had been soft and mostly to herself, she had in fact smiled. Just as long as calculations stayed in this direction, she would manage to get out of this lesson tear-free. She didn't speak just yet, however, choosing to remain in quiet contemplation for a while more.
Hearing a subtle laugh, Fina looked over to the source and found Kurumi being curiously quiet. Approaching the fifth year, she glanced at her parchment, hoping to see an inkling of what was funny but noticed something else instead. Kurumi obviously was tired. "Uh.... for Porpington, the first 'O', you put a zero, rather than six..." But using one of the ghosts for their family name number; clever. Pity only half of them had confirmed family names.

Quote:
Originally Posted by alchemist_18 (Post 10916883)
So, they need to calculate the family number of a famous person in History? Raven thought about someone who was very famous in Slytherin. Then she took The famous potion master, Severus Snape.

Taking her quill, she started to write and count Snape family number

SPOILER!!: Raven's note

1---2---3---4---5---6---7---8---9
A---B---C---D---E---F---G---H----I
J---K---L---M---N---O---P---Q---R
S---T---U---V---W---X---Y---Z

S N A P E
1+5+1+7+5
14+5 = 19
1+9= 10
1+0= 1

1 = You inherit an independent spirit, a forceful nature, a strong will, and the ability to come up with original ideas.


Then she asked Professor Hadley. "Is it correct, Professor?"
"Quite right," she said nodding at the young snake who used the quite famous Potions Master from the 20th century.

SPOILER!!: Those who used Helga Hufflepuff

Quote:
Originally Posted by Squishy ♥ (Post 10916902)
Amelia honestly wasn't so sure who'd she do her calculation on, so she decided just to go with the Founder of her House. After all if it wasn't for Helga Hufflepuff, there would be no Hufflepuffs period. And that was a rather tragic thought as she loved her House and wouldn't have wanted to be placed anywhere else.

Right below her acrostic she put her calculation:

Amelia double checked the calculation in her head now and then was sure that she had done it correctly. She now waited for the next instructions.
Quote:
Originally Posted by TakemetotheBurrow (Post 10917036)
Ella sat drumming her fingers no her desk, wondering who to pick from her house. She knew there were many great witches and wizards but was drawing a blank. Suddenly, as if a light bulb had gone off, Ella thought of someone. Duh! Helga Hufflepuff! She had founded the house so she was obviously the most important, right? With a person in mind, Ella began her calculations.



Then when she had calculated a number, Ella pulled her book out.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bazinga (Post 10917083)
Minerva thought about different names and then she decided to just pick the obvious one even though others probably did it as well. Helga Hufflepuff. She took out her parchment and began to calculate
Parchment:
SPOILER!!:

H U F F L E P U F F
8 3 6 6 3 5 7 3 6 6

8+3+6+6+3+5+7+3+6+6=53
5+3=8
Family Number is 8


Minerva looked in her book and read what 8 meant.
Book
SPOILER!!:
EIGHT (8): You inherit an attitude about oney and power that will cause you to seek recognition in business and finance. Your family name brings you the qualities of leadership, organization, a high value placed on success, competency, and doing a job well, as well a possibly inflated ego
Interesting Minerva thought.


Noting the few Hufflepuffs who of course did choose to use Helga, she nodded when the all seemed to come up with 8.

SPOILER!!: Ravenclaw Family Name Number

Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverDragon (Post 10916907)
Family numbers? Sounded interesting. Silvia didn't know very many famous figures in her house other than its founder, so she went with that.

SPOILER!!: parchment
RAVENCLAW
9+1+4+5+5+3+3+1+5
36= 3+6
=9


Well, the "artistic flair" part seemed accurate, since creativity was one of the Ravenclaw traits, as did "looking for what is possible." One could also say that she served her students by bestowing them with knowledge. Silvia didn't know that much about Ravenclaw's personality though, and, scanning the descriptions of the other numbers, she thought the number seven would have fit quite well.
Quote:
Originally Posted by EW_FAN (Post 10917657)
Just as Harvey had finished his acrostic.. he couldnt help but feel that he was being watched or at least someone was looking at him.. so he looked around to see who it could be.. but upon looking around there was no-one looking at him.. they were all working on the acrostic or were waiting for the class to move on.. but he was sure that someone had been watching him or if not that then looking at him.. but he shook this feeling away he was just being silly.. if Gem was here in class then he would understand that.. but she wasnt.. so there was no-one else.. unless.. he then looked at Minnie.. she was finished and waiting for the class to move on.. nah.. she wouldnt look at him.. she had Justin now.. nah he was just being silly... He then listened as the professor spoke about the family name number.. and how at Hogwarts every claw was family and that they were to pick someone from history that was in their house that they found inspirational.. now Harvey being a muggle-born did not know anyone from his house except its founder.. he had never really read up on who else in history was a Ravenclaw.. so he decided to go with its founder.. Rowena Ravenclaw.. so he picked up his quill and set to work..

SPOILER!!: Harvey's Parchment
Family Name Number

Rowena Ravenclaw

RAVENCLAW

(9+1+4+5+5+3+3+1+5)=

(9+1)=10 (10+4)=14 (14+5+5)=24 (24+3+3)=30 (30+1+5)=36

3+6=9

Family Name Number = 9


He then opened up his book to look up the meaning of this number

SPOILER!!: Number 9 Meaning
NINE (9): You inherit an artistic flair, a concern for others, an emotional nature, generosity, a sense of needing to serve, a philanthropic nature, and an attitude of looking for what is possible.


He read this and wondered if this applied to the founder.. if Rowena Ravenclaw was like this.. as he read it he realised one other thing.. this may or may not apply to the founder of his house.. but it somewhat applied to Harvey himself.. he was always concerned for others, he too had an emotional nature. He was very generous, yeah he always felt that he wanted to help all that were around him and many of them knew this and HAD in fact experienced him helping them.. so this was 50% or so him.. well.. he didnt expect that now.. well he had done it.. he then waited for the professor to move on with the lesson.. but he couldnt help but study that meaning further as he waited..
Quote:
Originally Posted by RachieRu (Post 10918358)
Okaay. Time to calculate this number. That should be fun. Indiana found she was used to the calculations now, which made her happy. She was glad that she could do arthimancy well. It had kind of confused her in her first year, but now she was good at it. Well when she was able to count she was anyway. But first she needed to think of a historical figure in her house. Ravenclaw. The best house there was. Obviously. Hmm. Rowena Ravenclaw would do. She was nice. Indiana wrote her name onto the top of her parchment, under the title of family number. Okay. Now, she set about doing the calculation.

SPOILER!!: parchment
Family Name Number for Rowena Ravenclaw
R A V E N C L A W
9 + 1 + 4 + 5 + 5 + 3 + 3 + 1 + 5 = 36
3 + 6 =9




Hmm. Now did the interpretation suit Rowena. Indiana mused, looking down, and reading what it was. Maybe. Generosity surely would. Rowena had been a ravenclaw after all, so like Ravenclaws must be generous, they were pretty epic. She wasn't too sure about the rest, but some of them definetly suited the Ravenclaw house. So things were good right?


And then the students who used Ravenclaw, she glanced at their work, nodding again. Nine for Ravenclaw. Her thoughts wondered briefly for a moment about Slytherin and Gryffindor, but she figured, someone would do those, right? Maybe. It would be amusing if one was 6 and the other was 7 though.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverTiger (Post 10916951)
The Family Name number. Stella simply nodded as the acrostic mess concluded and theyd gone back to Arithmancy. She had known there was something, and now she didn't have to go back to her textbook to remember what it was. Others had given the answer to the question of how they discovered their Family Name number, though, so she stayed quiet. Even if she was curious about what Professor Hadley had thought about their acrostics, there was no reason to go back to that. Not when they were finally doing something she thought was relevant.

It was definitely interesting that they'd been asked to calculate the numbers for a famous person from their House, though. She knew exactly who she could focus on, although indirectly she knew she was probably one of the only people who could do the assignment and still be focusing on her actual family as well. She didn't like thinking about that, since she felt like it inherantly meant she should have been better at certain subjects than she was, but at least she wouldn't have to fall back on the Founders. And she could always just come up with another excuse if she was asked why she'd picked that person. Picking up her quill again, she started doing her calculations underneath her previous work.

SPOILER!!: Family Name number

FANCOURT
6+1+5+3+6+3+9+2
35
3+5
8

EIGHT (8): You inherit an attitude about money and power that will cause you to seek recognition in business and finance. Your family name brings you the qualities of leadership, organization, a high value placed on success, competency, and doing a job well, as well a possibly inflated ego.


Glancing at her textbook finally, she copied down the description that was assigned to the number eight, then just sat there looking at it for a while. Superficially, she didn't really see how it related. Not to most of what she remembered, both from books and what her mother could tell her. The longer she looked at it, though, there were definitely parts of it that fit.
And there was a name she hadn't read about in AWHILE. Fancourt. Perpetua Fancourt. Inventor of the lunascope. Nodding at Stella though and her calculations, she then moved on.

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Originally Posted by Lislchen (Post 10916974)
Lewis had been taking notes thoroughly for the last couple of minutes, trying to write everything down what the professor said. Somehow this whole family talk made some of his fellow classmates quite sad. And some of them were excited. He just couldn't really care less. It wasn't as if he was particularly proud of coming from his family but then again he didn't resent it either, so. Whatever.

They were supposed to pick an important former member of their house? Who to pick, who to pick? He had finally come to terms that he was going to have to stay here at Hogwarts so in the end he had in fact read all there was - or at least all the he could find - on Hogwarts. And therefore also on Hufflepuff. Did the Fat Friar have a last name? Was it Friar?

In the end Lewis picked Artemisia Lufkin. Mainly because she had been his first chocolate frog card ever and he liked her story. Soooo, now on to the calculations.

SPOILER!!: Family Name Number

L U F K I N
3 3 6 2 9 5

28 -> 2+8 = 10 -> 1+0 = 1

ONE (1): You inherit an independent spirit, a forceful nature, a strong will, and the ability to come up with original ideas.


Well, that interpretation seemed quite appropriate to the first female Minister of Magic.
Another name she hadn't heard in awhile, but very important female figure. Fina nodded at Rasting and his calculations, which were quite accurate for Lufkin.

Quote:
Originally Posted by jujune29th (Post 10917046)
Sophie was eager to start. As soon as Professor Hadley gave the instructions, she started thinking about a famous Hufflepuff. She didn't want to use their founder's name, so she searched for some more Hufflepuffs in her mind. She remembered her father telling her once that Hogsmeade's founder was a Hufflepuff! Mr... something Woodcroft. Oh good! At least she remembered his last name!

Pulling her textbook closer, she opened it and started working.

Text Cut: Parchment

Woodcroft

5 + 6 + 6 + 4 + 3 + 9 + 6 + 6 + 2
47 = 4 + 7
11 = 1 + 1
2


She then looked at what it meant.

Text Cut:

Number 2
You inherit a peaceful nature, the desire to reduce conflict, a sensitivity to things, a gift for detail, a love of gathering things, and a loving nature.


Hm. Okay. Now wait for further instructions!
Ah, the Hogsmeade Founder!!! Good thinking Sophie, Fina nodded as she looked over her calculations. "One thing though, is that Woodcroft actually is master number 11, which has a separate meaning from the ordinary two."

Quote:
Originally Posted by FearlessLeader19 (Post 10917078)
Jory listened carefully to Professor Hadley's instructions before he began. He decided to use the Fat Friar and he hoped that was ok with the Professor.

Fat Friar
6+1+2+6+9+9+1+9
=43 =4+3
=7

Meaning: You inherit wisdom to be able to research and analise, you are investigative.
And another student was done, to which Fina's eyebrow creased a bit. She was hoping that it wouldn't be attempted for the other two ghosts, but alas.... "Per Fat Friar, yes, 7 would be correct, except I don't believe Friar is his surname. I believe that was his first name." And 'Fat' was just a nickname he obtained over the years. "Unfortunately there's no historical evidence as to what the Friar's full name was, which is why calculating his family name number isn't really accurate. Same could be said for the Bloody Baron." Nickname again.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Devina Wellheart (Post 10917139)
Justin sat and thought of his family...The oddity of it and how his was so much different than the conventional idea of what a family is.As he thought on it he began to make a list.

Fiercly protective
Welcoming
Loving
Compassionate
amazingly optimistic
Proper to a fault

As Justin listed a few things the professor said they'd be exploring the meanings of their surnames...and of course calculations would be needed to do so.

Then they had to pick someone who was from there houses...of histrorical import... So, Justin thought of only one person....a distant cousin that would've been great if only not taken too soon. On his parchement he wrote out his calculation.
SPOILER!!: Parchement

D I G G O R Y
4+9+7+7+6+9+7=49
4+9=13
1+3=4
Family number is 4


Then he opened his textbook to find out what the meaning was. as he read along he wrote that down on his sheet of parchement as well.
SPOILER!!: parchement

You Inherit the belief that hardwork is the right way to work, a sense of cautiousness, thuroughness and self discipline.
Seeing another student set their quill down, Fina approached and glanced over their work. Diggory. The famous Hufflepuff who died during the Triwizard Tournament that was just over 80 years ago. She nodded at Justin's work. Four was correct for the Diggory family.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cassandra (Post 10917247)
Taylor didnt want to fall back on the founder so she thought about it and remembered that Laverne de Montmorency was a ravenclaw. She smiled.
SPOILER!!: Calculations

de Montmorency
4+5+4+6+5+2+4+6+9+5+5+3+7=65
6=5=11
1+1=2
Two: You inherit a peaceful nature, the desire to reduce conflict, a sensitivity to things, a gift for detail, a love of gathering things, and a loving nature.

Taylor didnt know what 2 stood for so she looked it up in her textbook and copied it down into her notes.
Seeing another student finish up, Fina approached the young Ravenclaw and looked over her work, impressed at the young girl's use of such a long name. "Except that de Montemorency is actually Family Name Number of 11. Because 11 is a master number. See how before you reduced your total to a two, you had an 11?"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Macavity (Post 10917387)
Professor Hadley confirmed what he knew though adding where to get the numbers from to assign to the letters. Well he knew that...he just hadn't mentioned the obvious. At least obvious to him as one of those older student who had been dealing with the class for a year or more already.

When they moved into the actual calculations, Gideon had thought they might be working on their own surnames but instead they were instructed to work on a famous person from Gryffindor House. Thinking on the idea, he wondered if his Great Grand Aunt would be acceptable to use. Not that she wasn't famous but that she was indeed family. He finally figured he might as well try it out and of Hadley didn't approve he could do another. So picking up his quill once more, the fifth year went to work, careful to spell the last name correctly.

Four...that was the number he got with his math. So Gideon looked to the textbook for the reading associated with the number four under the family name number chapter. Finding it, he read it through, thinking on how it fit.
Seeing another student not reading through the textbook, Fina approached the Gryffindor and looked over his calculations. McGonagall. And yes, he was right on with his math.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MyPatronusIsaMoose (Post 10917586)
Hmm so they needed a famous historical figure from their house? Oakey wasn't to keen on Historical Figures but had remembered Granny Gunter always talking about how her husband always was such a history buff and that he knew everything there was to know about Grogan Stump a former Minister of Magic who belonged to the Hufflepuff house.

Oakey set his quill down and mentally laughed at the thought that this would fit any Minister of Magic.
And another Minister of Magic used. Also a Hufflepuff. See, whoever said Hufflepuffs didn't produce GOOD, VALUABLE leaders to society, was SADLY MISTAKEN. Honestly.

She nodded at Oakey and his calculations for Grogan Stump. An 8. Quite right.

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Originally Posted by Gabrielle (Post 10917940)
Glenn nodded to the teacher and turned over the page of her journal to a fresh page with no ink yet on the page. After, she took out her textbook from her bag and found the page that explained the family numbers. She completed her own quickly, curious to what it would mean before moving on to what their activity really was.

SPOILER!!: Glenn's Journal

R E Y E S
9 5 7 5 1
9+5+7+2+1=24
2+4=6

SIX (6): You inherit a conservative attitude that sees helping others as the responsible thing to do. You are an excellent problem solver and are family-oriented. You may have inherited a stubborn streak as well as strong opinions.


She thought hard about who she could use for her famous Hufflepuff member. Hmm. Oh! She had one that was very relevant to Arithmancy.

SPOILER!!: Glenn's Journal 2

W E N L O C K
5 5 5 3 6 3 2
5+5+5+3+6+3+2=29
2+9=11

ELEVEN (11/2): You inherit the ability to uplift, encourage, and inspire others. Your family name brings with it a sensitivity to others and the desire for spiritual living. You will learn from life through many tests that illuminate certain universal truths.


Oh, that seemed right. Universal truths counted as the properties of the number 7 too, right?
Seeing another student finish writing, Fina looked over at her parchment and noted that she not only calculated for Bridget Wenlock, but for her own last name too. Hmph. Well she wasn't going to correct the girl on the fact that she got her own surname's number wrong. That's what she gets for jumping ahead.

But she calculated Wenlock's number; FINALLY, a Hufflepuff did so! And she even recognized the fact that the famous Arithmancer had a Master Number! "Good, good. On Bridget Wenlock's family name number anyway."

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Originally Posted by sevensnared (Post 10917964)
There wasn't anything that distracted Hades today. It was good that he finally paid attention in class. Although it was most unlikely to last long. Soon, something was definitely going to pop up inside his head and usually, those things never did any good to others.

Head lowered, the blonde was scribbling down on a piece of parchment. At some times, he'd stop writing as he made a mental calculation before he continued to write.

SPOILER!!: Hades' parchment
P E V E R E L L
7 + 5 + 4 + 5 + 9 + 5 + 3 = 38
3 + 8 = 11


After setting down his quill, Hades pulled his textbook and flipped to chapter twenty seven. Number eleven... Let see...

"You inherit the ability to uplift, encourage, and inspire others. Your family name brings with it a sensitivity to others and the desire for spiritual living. You will learn from life through many tests that illuminate certain universal truths."

That sounded accurate when it comes to the Peverell brothers.
For a moment, Hadley's eyes grew wide in surprise as there was yet another historical figure with the number 11 as their Family Name Number. But upon looking closer at the Slytherin's work, she shook her head. "You missed the second 'L' in your calculation." So you know, not a Master Number after all.

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSnapesGirl (Post 10917966)
A famous Ravenclaw in history, hm? Vashti had no trouble thinking of several, not including the obvious Rowena and Helena Ravenclaw, but she wasn't sure which of them to pick. There were many interesting and important former Ravenclaws, but she really didn't want to calculate all of their Family Name Numbers. So after a bit of thought, she decided to pick Millicent Bagnold.

Text Cut: calculations
Millicent Bagnold
B + A + G + N + O + L + D
2 + 1 + 7 + 5 + 6 + 3 + 4
28
2 + 8
10
1 + 0
1
ONE (1): You inherit an independent spirit, a forceful nature, a strong will, and the ability to come up with original ideas.


That definitely seemed to fit with what she knew of the woman. Dipping her quill in ink again, Vashti wrote down how the number's meaning fit.

Text Cut: Connecting textbook meaning with real life
I chose Millicent Bagnold, the woman who was Minister for Magic from 1980 to 1990. She was Minister when Lord Voldemort was defeated the first time and during the time after when his Death Eaters were being rounded up. Her Family Name Number is one, which fits, I think. I'd say she'd definitely have to have a 'forceful nature' and a 'strong will' to deal with the chaos the Ministry dealt with during that time period, and she'd have to be capable of coming up with new, original ideas to help deal with what was going on as well as continue to run the rest of Great Britain. She also defended the celebrations that went on when Voldemort was destroyed, with the statement, "I assert our inalienable right to party." I think that definitely shows her independent and forceful nature since she was willing to temporarily defy the laws set by the International Statute of Wizarding Secrecy. Plus, everyone knows Ravenclaws throw the best parties.


That last part didn't really apply to the meaning of the number, but Vashti felt it ought to be added anyway. Because it was true.
Looking over at Vashti's work, Fina nodded at the girl's use of another historical figure who was Minister of Magic, this one though, not a Hufflepuff. And just for the sake of it - because it was longer than many - she even read her interpretation and had to crack at a smile at the Ravenclaw throwing the best parties bit. For some reason or other, her inner competitive side wanted to hold challenge to that, even if she didn't voice it. Instead she just nodded and moved onto the next student.

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Originally Posted by affy7ann (Post 10918004)
Tayla listened to the professor and her classmates, and opened her textbook to chapter twenty-seven. She read quietly. "The Family Name Number is calculated by assigning each letter in the surname with the appropriate number, then adding those numbers together and reducing the sum to a single digit, unless we get a Master Number, in which case we do not reduce."

Tayla decided to use her house founder's last name. She loved being a Gryffindor and was curious to know what the meaning of it's family name number would be. She took her quill and started to calculate.

SPOILER!!: Tayla's Arithmancy Notebook; page one

FAMILY
- a group of people who love each other unconditionally
- annoying sometimes but you care about them anyway
- people you can count on always
- people who will never leave you behind or forget you (Ohana!)

Family
- from Latin 'familia'
- a group of people affiliated in some way, either by co-inhabiting the same residence, biologically related, through marriage, even friendships
- traditionally: father, mother, and children
- nuclear familiar: role models, teammates, housemates, neighbors, pets
- not just about living under the same roof or sharing DNA; about affiliation, connection, mutual love and respect

Types of Families
- nuclear family
- conjugal family
- extended family
- stepfamily
- traditional family


British and Canadian blood

April and Tayla, the siblings

Respect

Nicole and Matthew, the parents

Happiness

Include the pets Marigold and Cadbury!

Love

Live in both Muggle and Wizarding worlds



SPOILER!!: Tayla's Arithmancy Notebook; page two


Family Name Number
-- textbook: Chapter Twenty-Seven

G R Y F F I N D O R

7 + (1+8) + (2+5) + 6 + 6 + 9 + (1+4) + 4 + (1+5) + (1+8)
7 + 9 + 7 + 6 + 6 + 9 + 5 + 4 + 6 + 9
= 68
= (6+8)
= 14
= (1+4)
= 5



After finishing her calculations, she consulted her textbook. Then she raised her hand. "Professor, if my calculations are correct, the family name number for 'Gryffindor' is five. According to our textbook, a five reveals that," she paused and started to read. "You inherit a belief that you shouldn't be fenced in, for you are a free spirit. Restrictions, limitations, routine challenge you. Travel and change are easy for you, and you are innately curious and a risk taker." Tayla looked up again and continued to speak. "I'm not sure if it describes Godric Gryffindor completely well, but I think him being a free spirit and a risk taker is quite true."
Ah and there was her student to calculate the family name number for Godric. Now what about Salazar? But alas, Godric's family name number was disappointingly NOT a 6 or 7. "Five is correct," Fina nodded at the girl's calculations.

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Originally Posted by hpluvr037 (Post 10917896)
So... she didn't want them to use their own names yet? Well. She's right about at least one thing. Hufflepuff has become a second family to me. In a way he never could've expected.

So, who are some famous Hufflepuffs? Obviously Professor Longbottom, Cedric Diggory.. Helga Hufflepuff. But he wanted to use someone a bit less obvious. Oo, how about Newt Scamander?

A bit unsure of how to spell his name, he pulled out his Care of Magical Creatures textbook, which he happened to have with him. Yup, Scamander. He scribbled this name at the top of his parchment. Alright, now to assign numbers.

Text Cut: Keefer's notes
SCAMANDER
1 + 3 + 1 + 4 + 1 + 5 + 4 + 5 + 1
Add: 4 + 5 + 6 + 10 --> 9 + 16 --> 25
Reduce: 2 + 5 = 7
Family Name Number = 7


He perused the discussion in the text about what this meant. Well, his parents did instill in him a drive to learn all he could and do a good job in hi work. The observation, analysis, and perfectionism bit was all part of taking care of his hundreds of Abraxans. Though I'm not sure, then, if it comes with the job or from the family...

He wasn't sure how he felt about sharing the results aloud. He didn't mind if Hadley saw, but he wasn't going to blab it about for all the hear. This felt more... personal than usual. Wow, maybe I feel the need for privacy more than I thought! He laughed despite himself.
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Originally Posted by hpluvr037 (Post 10918352)
Keefer looked over his calculations again and realized he had made a mistake. Shoot, I assigned R to 1... it's supposed to be a 9... So it was time to start over again. Which was a shame really, because the number he had found fit his family fairly well.

Text Cut: Notes 2.0
SCAMANDER
1 + 3 + 1 + 4 + 1 + 5 + 4 + 5 + 1 9
Add: 4 + 5 + 6 + 9 + 9 --> 9 + 15 + 9--> 18 + 15 --> 33
Reduce: 2 + 5 = 7 3 + 3 = 6
Family Name Number = 7 6


He looked at the new meaning. Well, I do see helping others to be a priority.. which is probably why I got Sorted in Hufflepuff... And our family is definitely family-oriented! Another helped toward his Sorting, most likely. Though our family is pretty chill. I wouldn't say there is a stubborn streak anywhere, and we also aren't very vociferous about strong opinion. All in all, he thought the first number suited them better.

Then he happened to glance at the heading of his work. "Scamander. Wooooow... I was interpreting this in light of my own family both times." His cheeks flushed, he suddenly felt quite stupid.

Upon further reflection, he felt that a lot of the analysis he just did could be generalized. Many of these are Hufflepuff qualities, so I'm not surprised Scamander would be here. Family orientation, the importance of helping others, even problem solving skills. Yeah, a lot of it fits!

Semi-redemption!
As Keefer didn't look quite done by the time she was about to get around to looking at his parchment, she nodded and passed him by, letting him work just a bit longer. But this time, he looked done and she glanced at over at his parchment. Another Scamander was used, which she recalled from Alyssa's parchment of that he had a master number.

Something that Keefer failed to recognize. Even with his corrections.

"Uh... Keefer.... with your calculations, before you reduced to a 6, the answer was 33, which I do believe is a master number." Believe? She knew it.

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Originally Posted by Anna Banana (Post 10918384)
Sierra looked from Gert to the professor as both of them started to explain the Family Name Number. It sounded easy enough, which was the good thing about Arithmancy. Sierra didn't think there were many good things about the subject, but at least the calculating part was easy.

Even if it did take years to do...

Okay, so she needed someone in her house, someone really old... Remembering one of the portraits hanging up around the castle, Sierra began to calculate the Family Name Number for Elizabeth Burke.

B U R K E
2 3 9 2 5

2 + 3 + 9 + 2 + 5= 21
2 + 1 = 3

Sierra double-checked her calculations then looked back to see what a number three meant.

THREE (3): You inherit a fun-loving, optmistic nature, a sense of humor, and a creative spirit.

Hmm. Sierra really didn't think the number three fit in with what she'd heard about Elizabeth Burke.

Supposedly, Burke was a pureblood who encouraged other purebloods to make fun of Muggles and call them a mudblood. I don't think a number three fits in well with her personality... Somehow, I just don't think many people would agree to her being fun-loving, optimitic, having a great sense of humor, or having a creative spirit.
Seeing another student set their quill down and re-reading notes/textbook, Fina approached the fourth year and glanced down at Sierra's parchment, half hoping to see Salazar Slytherin there, but disappointed when not. It was a historical figure. Someone different. Burke. Elizabeth Burke.

And her calculations were correct, to which Sierra received a similar nod as she'd given out before.


Alas, seeing as everyone - or nearly everyone - had done their calculations for a historical figure, Fina figured it time to move on, which she walked back up to the front.

"So now that it seems like many of you have figured out the Family Name number," Fina paused, waiting for any objections to this. "Which represents your inner subconscious to life, as seen in one's surname, we're going to move onto another number which is somewhat related. Keep those historical figures you calculated the family name number for in mind though." They would use it for the new number. "This number is indicative of your greatest potential for self-actualization as you journey through life. The textbook says it to be related to one of your core numbers, but I actually find that it goes better with your Family Name Number." Greatest potential.... inner subconscious.... it was all related, yes?

"So any guesses as to what number this is?"

sweetpinkpixie 02-19-2012 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by PhoenixRising (Post 10918962)
Hearing a subtle laugh, Fina looked over to the source and found Kurumi being curiously quiet. Approaching the fifth year, she glanced at her parchment, hoping to see an inkling of what was funny but noticed something else instead. Kurumi obviously was tired. "Uh.... for Porpington, the first 'O', you put a zero, rather than six..." But using one of the ghosts for their family name number; clever. Pity only half of them had confirmed family names.
Looking up from her parchment, Kurumi saw Professor Hadley looking over her work. A 0? Why had she even written that down in the first place? The number 0 wasn't even a part of the Pythagorean Number System to begin with. Picking up her quill again to fix her notes, Kurumi couldn't help but look up the number 0's meaning - mostly for her own curiosity. "Emptiness, change, decay, nothing..." she read from her textbook.

Yep, that sounded about right...

Wind knocked out of her sails and any hint of a smile that had been on her face removed, Kurmi lazily went to fix her calculations.
SPOILER!!: Kurumi's parchment

1---2---3---4---5---6---7---8---9
A---B---C---D---E---F---G---H----I
J---K---L---M---N---O---P---Q---R
S---T---U---V---W---X---Y---Z

Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington
(4+5)+(4+9+4+1+7)+(7+0 6 +9+7+9+5+7+2+6+5)=
(9)+(25)+(57 63) = 9 + 7 + 12 9 = 9+7+9 = 19 25 = 1+9 2+5 = 10 7 = 1

ONE (1): You inherit an independent spirit, a forceful nature, a strong will, and the ability to come up with original ideas.
SEVEN (7): You inherit a desire for knowledge, you value learning, and you respect quality, facts, and theories, as well as a need for spiritual understanding. Your family traits will be those of observation, analysis, perfectionism, and the desire for privacy

When she had finished, Kurumi set her quill down once more and sighed. This number seemed rather ironic as well. Perhaps, it meant that Sir Nicholas was actually right where he was supposed to be as a ghost? His greatest growth coming with spiritual understanding and all that...you couldn't get much more spiritual than being a spectrum, could you?
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Originally Posted by PhoenixRising (Post 10918962)
Alas, seeing as everyone - or nearly everyone - had done their calculations for a historical figure, Fina figured it time to move on, which she walked back up to the front.

"So now that it seems like many of you have figured out the Family Name number," Fina paused, waiting for any objections to this. "Which represents your inner subconscious to life, as seen in one's surname, we're going to move onto another number which is somewhat related. Keep those historical figures you calculated the family name number for in mind though." They would use it for the new number. "This number is indicative of your greatest potential for self-actualization as you journey through life. The textbook says it to be related to one of your core numbers, but I actually find that it goes better with your Family Name Number." Greatest potential.... inner subconscious.... it was all related, yes?

"So any guesses as to what number this is?"
Kurumi looked up again when Professor Hadley asked another question of the class, but once again found herself too wrapped up in negative thoughts to feel like answering. It certainly sounded like your Growth Number, or the Key, from the way the Arithmancy professor was describing it. It was said to be related to one's Life Path Number which was part of the core.

Kurumi quietly wrote down Growth Number on her parchment and then set it back down on the table.

magikewe 02-19-2012 03:09 AM
Lily was busy thinking of someone to do the math for, that was different. But she looked up, shocked when she saw the professor walking around to continue. I'd better just do Ravenclaw... Lily thought as she furiously wrote down on her paper.
Text Cut: parchment

RAVENCLAW
9+1+4+5+5+3+3+1+5
36= 3+6
=9


Lily checked her math and then looked up just as the professor was asking the next question...
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhoenixRising
Alas, seeing as everyone - or nearly everyone - had done their calculations for a historical figure, Fina figured it time to move on, which she walked back up to the front.

"So now that it seems like many of you have figured out the Family Name number," Fina paused, waiting for any objections to this. "Which represents your inner subconscious to life, as seen in one's surname, we're going to move onto another number which is somewhat related. Keep those historical figures you calculated the family name number for in mind though." They would use it for the new number. "This number is indicative of your greatest potential for self-actualization as you journey through life. The textbook says it to be related to one of your core numbers, but I actually find that it goes better with your Family Name Number." Greatest potential.... inner subconscious.... it was all related, yes?

"So any guesses as to what number this is?"
Raising her hand, Lily decided to take a guess at the question. "Could it be something like your greatest achievment number? like giving you a general idea of what you will be remembered for... or something like that..." Lily trailed off at the end. It had sounded brilliant in her head, but sounded horrible once she had said it. Her face fell, just thinking of what the professor would say to her answer.

Bazinga 02-19-2012 03:17 AM
Minerva sat quietly she looked through her book and then put her hand up. "Professor could it be something about family growth or achievement."

PhoenixRising 02-19-2012 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by sweetpinkpixie (Post 10918993)
Looking up from her parchment, Kurumi saw Professor Hadley looking over her work. A 0? Why had she even written that down in the first place? The number 0 wasn't even a part of the Pythagorean Number System to begin with. Picking up her quill again to fix her notes, Kurumi couldn't help but look up the number 0's meaning - mostly for her own curiosity. "Emptiness, change, decay, nothing..." she read from her textbook.

Yep, that sounded about right...

Wind knocked out of her sails and any hint of a smile that had been on her face removed, Kurmi lazily went to fix her calculations.
SPOILER!!: Kurumi's parchment

1---2---3---4---5---6---7---8---9
A---B---C---D---E---F---G---H----I
J---K---L---M---N---O---P---Q---R
S---T---U---V---W---X---Y---Z

Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington
(4+5)+(4+9+4+1+7)+(7+0 6 +9+7+9+5+7+2+6+5)=
(9)+(25)+(57 63) = 9 + 7 + 12 9 = 9+7+9 = 19 25 = 1+9 2+5 = 10 7 = 1

ONE (1): You inherit an independent spirit, a forceful nature, a strong will, and the ability to come up with original ideas.
SEVEN (7): You inherit a desire for knowledge, you value learning, and you respect quality, facts, and theories, as well as a need for spiritual understanding. Your family traits will be those of observation, analysis, perfectionism, and the desire for privacy

When she had finished, Kurumi set her quill down once more and sighed. This number seemed rather ironic as well. Perhaps, it meant that Sir Nicholas was actually right where he was supposed to be as a ghost? His greatest growth coming with spiritual understanding and all that...you couldn't get much more spiritual than being a spectrum, could you?

Kurumi looked up again when Professor Hadley asked another question of the class, but once again found herself too wrapped up in negative thoughts to feel like answering. It certainly sounded like your Growth Number, or the Key, from the way the Arithmancy professor was describing it. It was said to be related to one's Life Path Number which was part of the core.

Kurumi quietly wrote down Growth Number on her parchment and then set it back down on the table.
Watching Kurumi as she fixed her calculations, she frowned at the silence. Totally unlike the fifth year and though Fina suspected stuff was going on in her head, she knew better than to call the girl out on it in the middle of the lesson.

So instead she just did her best to let Kurumi be .... for now.

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Originally Posted by Hermione Lily Potter (Post 10919002)
Lily was busy thinking of someone to do the math for, that was different. But she looked up, shocked when she saw the professor walking around to continue. I'd better just do Ravenclaw... Lily thought as she furiously wrote down on her paper.
Text Cut: parchment

RAVENCLAW
9+1+4+5+5+3+3+1+5
36= 3+6
=9


Lily checked her math and then looked up just as the professor was asking the next question...


Raising her hand, Lily decided to take a guess at the question. "Could it be something like your greatest achievment number? like giving you a general idea of what you will be remembered for... or something like that..." Lily trailed off at the end. It had sounded brilliant in her head, but sounded horrible once she had said it. Her face fell, just thinking of what the professor would say to her answer.
Greatest achievement number? Yes, wasn't that what she just said. "That's what it represents, but not the name for the number." Stealing another glance back at the Gryffindor, she was sure the girl knew it, but she kept quiet. And Fina wasn't going to press for the answer.

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Originally Posted by Bazinga (Post 10919014)
Minerva sat quietly she looked through her book and then put her hand up. "Professor could it be something about family growth or achievement."
"Close.... Not family growth." There was no such number called that. "But the number I was inferring to is called the growth number." Yes. It's a chapter backwards in the textbook, but Fina thought it better to go over last names first.

"The Growth number, or the key, describes about how you further grow as your progress according to your life path. Why do you think I said it relates more to the Family Name Number than the Life Path?"

FearlessLeader19 02-19-2012 05:38 AM
Jory listened to what Professor Hadley said. "Oh,'' he said disappointed. But quickly he grinned at her. "I'll go change it right now.''

Hufflepuff
8 3 6 6 3 5 7 3 6 6
8+3+6+6+3+5+7+3+6+6=53
5+3=8
You inherit an attitude for power which will cause you to seek recognition in relation to business as well as finance.

Jory raised his hand to answer the question. "Is it because it relates to you and your family possibly from generations, so it kinda passes down?'' "Like DNA,'' he thought.

FireboltAvis88 02-19-2012 05:39 AM
SPOILER!!: Professor Hadley
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhoenixRising (Post 10919052)
Watching Kurumi as she fixed her calculations, she frowned at the silence. Totally unlike the fifth year and though Fina suspected stuff was going on in her head, she knew better than to call the girl out on it in the middle of the lesson.

So instead she just did her best to let Kurumi be .... for now.

Greatest achievement number? Yes, wasn't that what she just said. "That's what it represents, but not the name for the number." Stealing another glance back at the Gryffindor, she was sure the girl knew it, but she kept quiet. And Fina wasn't going to press for the answer.

"Close.... Not family growth." There was no such number called that. "But the number I was inferring to is called the growth number." Yes. It's a chapter backwards in the textbook, but Fina thought it better to go over last names first.

"The Growth number, or the key, describes about how you further grow as your progress according to your life path. Why do you think I said it relates more to the Family Name Number than the Life Path?"


Alyssa pondered over the question before raising her hand. "Professor could it be because the Life Path Number only relates to the path that we follow using the talents and abilities we have, while the Growth Number shows us that at some point through our life path, we will finally discover that one talent or ability we will excel in the most. It's something that we inherited but we haven't learned to use it to the best of our ability. It is related more to the Family Name Number because that number also shows what we inherited through our families and how that ultimately affects what we become in the future." Alyssa hoped that she wasn't rambling on again and that she actually made sense. Because she did know the difference. She only had problems actually putting it into words that made sense.


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