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Arithmancy One: Introduction to Spell Numerization & Basic Curse-Breaking
The room was breezy, which wouldn't have been terribly strange for the November day except that the windows closed. Having just finished rearranging the desks for about the fifth time that morning, Professor Hadley settled on having the desks pushed together in pairs.
Resting her backside against her own desk, she was flipping through the latest copy of Numbers and You as she waited the arrival of the students.
ooc: please take your seats and keep chatting to a minimum. Lesson will begin as soon as enough of you have posted arriving <3 Lesson has started. Any late arrival posts WILL be subjected to points loss, so please, pretend as though your character has been there the whole time. Oh and the same goes for editing your post; I'd rather have you DOUBLE post (and I'd merge it) then have you edit your posts. Editing posts is also subjected to points loss.... Unless of course you WANT to lose points ;D
"Ultimately this list contains the essential characteristics of each of the numbers zero through nine. As such, what might this indicate for a combination of numbers such as 47?" Fina asked. Nice random, two digit number.
Victoria raised her hand after a few minutes of thoughtful thinking. "It really depends, professor. 4 and 7 must be reduced if it's in the same word/word chains." replied Victoria. "If not, I guess that you will take the two numbers and figure out the meanings. In this case, 4 basically means hard work, and 7 means wisdom and magical in a way. And if we put both of the numbers together, we can conclude that this person is hard working in his/her life, and that his wisdom and his research will make his/her life magical or lucky."
"Ultimately this list contains the essential characteristics of each of the numbers zero through nine. As such, what might this indicate for a combination of numbers such as 47?" Fina asked. Nice random, two digit number.
Alyssa found herself lagging behind again. She hated playing catch up. The class was responding faster than she could think and even though she knew the answers, by the time she thought of raising her hand, the Professor had moved on. Sigh! At the rate she was going she was never going to earn any points in this class. But she was going to try! She quickly jotted down the characteristics of each number in her journal.
Then she thought about the combination of 4 and 7, and what 47 would represent.
Staring at the numbers, a thought suddenly dawned on Alyssa. 4+7=11. What were the odds of the Professor coming up with the number 47. High? But still the significance, at least to Alyssa was mind boggling. 11 was the month she was born in. 7 was the day!! She suddenly knew what the characteristics of the numbers 47 would be because she had struggled with it all her life.
Raising her hand, Alyssa said, "Professor, in order for us to understand the characteristics of 47, I think that we need to further breakdown the numbers. 4+7=11. 11 is considered to be a master number because it posseses more potential than the other numbers and is believed to be the most intuitive of all numbers. There is always a constant battle between it's characteristics because they are highly charged and hard to control. We have charisma, leadership and inspiration, together with dynamism and inner conflict. All these are good characteristics but if there isn't a goal to focus on, these characteristics can turn in themselves and cause phobias and fears.
So if we were to combine 11 with a 4 and a 7, we would have that battle of greatness vs self destruction, going on with down to practical down to earth 4, and spiritual 7. However, if we can find a way to balance out all three numbers' characteristics, 47 will possess amazing characteristics."
Alyssa hoped that her answer was correct. She sure as heck knew that she had a lot of 11 and an equal number of 7 inside her. No wonder she was unpredictable and weird sometimes.
"Ultimately this list contains the essential characteristics of each of the numbers zero through nine. As such, what might this indicate for a combination of numbers such as 47?" Fina asked. Nice random, two digit number.
Jayden raised her hand. "Perhaps the number 47 takes both qualities from four and seven?" She half answered, half asked.
"Ultimately this list contains the essential characteristics of each of the numbers zero through nine. As such, what might this indicate for a combination of numbers such as 47?" Fina asked. Nice random, two digit number.
Keefer was lost. He was pretty good at Muggle math, but this was way different. He never really understood Arithmancy, and this Numerology business didn't seem any easier. Well, it could just be the characteristics of 4 and the characteristics of 7, but that seems too obvious. No, Keefer liked to think outside of the box, and that idea was definitely in a tiny little box. Lid closed.
Adding the 4 and the 7? That could get me somewhere. Again, not too creative. Then something else came to him. Though he was excited about his idea, he tentatively raised his hand. This was still not a class he was good in.
"Professor, it looks to me like you listed the properties for ten digits. So those act as the core basis of our interpretation, right? Maybe with two- or three-digit numbers, you have to divide them by 10 and see what's left over! So, like with 47, if you divide it by 10 you get 4 with 7 left over. So then 47 would share the core characteristics with 7." He quickly looked up at the board. "Analysis, research, solitude, wisdom, spiritual focus, investigative, mysticism, and magic!" he finished, reading off the board.
He felt confident that he had made a good contribution to the class discussion, even if he was way off.
"Ultimately this list contains the essential characteristics of each of the numbers zero through nine. As such, what might this indicate for a combination of numbers such as 47?" Fina asked. Nice random, two digit number.
Vashti briefly wondered whether she ought to write all that down in her notes before eventually deciding that she would. Sure, it was all in her textbook, but writing it down would help her remember it so she wouldn't have to always use her textbook - and that would be a good thing, right? Right. So she picked up her quill again and began scribbling the list on the blackboard onto her parchment.
As she wrote, she half-listened to the answers the other students were giving, using the other half of her focus to figure out one that she could give. By the time she finished and set down her quill, she had thought of one. Her hand was soon in the air.
"Typically in Arithmancy we reduce two digit numbers like 47, so when you add the four and the seven, it equals eleven which wouldn't be reduced because it's a master number. Eleven means things like 'an inspirational messenger' and a 'reformer of world problems', but I think it still possesses some of the qualities of the four and seven from the original number. I mean, if someone is an inspirational messenger, they're probably pretty wise, and they've probably done at least some research and investigating to figure out what their message is. And if they are going to reform the world's problems, that requires some wisdom too, as well as hard work and endurance, since it's not really a simple or easy thing to accomplish."
That...came out a bit longer than she'd intended. Did that even answer the question?
"So that's what a 47 could indicate." Now it did. Maybe. She lowered her hand anyway.
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"Ultimately this list contains the essential characteristics of each of the numbers zero through nine. As such, what might this indicate for a combination of numbers such as 47?" Fina asked. Nice random, two digit number.
Wow. She didn't know any of that. Well, once again she's just a first year so nobody can really expect her to know those things ultimately. And with this, Beatrice did the best she could to jot down all the things that Professor Hadley said. Her parchment was almost full and her hands are all worn up.
But she still tried her best to answer the Professor's question. "Er-I think that the number 47 would indicate something like having optimism with one's work and task or something like that." she said, mumbling at the same time fretting. Numbers were one of her antagonists. They don't enjoy Beatrice's company.
"Ultimately this list contains the essential characteristics of each of the numbers zero through nine. As such, what might this indicate for a combination of numbers such as 47?" Fina asked. Nice random, two digit number.
Rory watched as the list of numbers and their descriptions appeared instantly on the board. As soon as the last number came on, he began scribbling these notes into a notebook as quickly possible before they ever disappeared. But as he was doing so, the number 47 came. 47...combination...that's obvious. Rory raised his hand immediately.
"You can't have a certain, I guess, characteristic for forty-seven. It's double-digit number meaning you have to add the two digits together?" It was until he said this out loud that he began to think he was completely wrong. That couldn't be right, could it? Oh, well. Just keep going, Rory. "And so, when you add the two digits, four and seven, you get eleven, right? But again, eleven is also a two digit number meaning you would have to add the digits together. One plus one is obviously two and there you go. Two is your number and the characteristics for two are exactly how they're stated up there." He pointed at the board. "I guess, technically you could say that forty-seven has the same characteristics as two. Heavy emphasis on relationship and being cooperative with others, being in harmony, and all that junk."
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Sierra looked up at the professor, an expression of confusion spread all across her face. See, this was why she hated Ancient Runes, Arithmancy, and Divination. They were all confusing and required way too much thought before answering.
...and why was nearly everyone suggesting something different?!
She thought about the question for a few extra seconds then raised her hand. "Four plus seven equals eleven, which is a master number," she said. What did eleven mean again? "An eleven stands for someone who wants to do good in this world...someone who wants to change the world for the better." Then how would that fit into four and seven? Did she even have to add those two in? "...and if you still needed to factor in the four and the seven, then maybe..." She trailed off as she thought. "...maybe it just shows you put a lot of thought into what you do to makes things better. It's not just quick, thoughtless ideas."
Luna raised her hand ''Fourty seven is a two diget number so you have to add them together 4+7= 11 and because it's a two diget number you have to do it again 1+1= 2 so your answer is two,'' she replied it was easier the more you thought about it really
Orr thought about the number 47. It seemed like number 4 and 7 complemented each other: 4 had Building, formation, hard work, endurance, sober-mindedness, practicality, organization while 7 had Analysis, research, solitude, wisdom, spiritual focus, investigative, mysticism, magic.
Add them together did give the master number of 11 but as she thought about it more-- she came up with 2 which is the final addition that could be made from the original numbers and that seemed to her to represent the best of both 4 and 7 combined. the number 2 has harmony, unity, relationships, collaboration, duality, humans/human magic.
Orr raised her hand and answered when the professor called on her, "Could it indicate in a double digit number that the individual characteristics of each number can combine with the other number's characteristics to create a more balanced number with more balanced characteristics?"
"Oh merlin. I sure hope you're not REALLY doing such," Fina said, shaking her head at the second year. Because otherwise she was going to have to have another pep talk with her Hufflepuffs. Of course she might need to do that soon anyway....
“I promise you I’m not “ said Nessie answering the Professor. She looked at her partchment again and realized that she had by mistake mixed the D and the M around. She took out her pen and crossed out her mistake she then redid everything.
"Ultimately this list contains the essential characteristics of each of the numbers zero through nine. As such, what might this indicate for a combination of numbers such as 47?" Fina asked. Nice random, two digit number. [/COLOR]
Okay..47 that shouldn’t be too hard to figure out. Nessie wasn’t too good with numbers but it was always worth a try.Wouldn’t be the two connected together She asked herself trying to figure out the answer.Like wouldn’t it have be 4 which is all about being hard working and about being organized, which is then added to 7 which is about research, focus and wisdom.
No this all seemed very wrong! Nessie gave her head a little smack trying to turn it on. Then she came up with what she thought was the right answer. She raised her hand confindently. "Professor because the number is two digits you add the 4 and 7 together that equals 11 and then since 11 is still a two digit number you add it together aswell which would then equal 2. So your answer would be 2 which is about harmony, relationships, unity and so on" Ness still had a confused look on her face. This Arithmancy was just too confusing for her mind to take in.
Ariella listened intently as everyone gave their answers. It seemed to her that Kurumi's answer was going to be correct. After all, she had given an answer that was out of the box.
Truthfully, Ariella didn't really have an idea of what 47 could be. It being a combination of 4 and 7 seemed like too simple of an answer. But that was the only thing she could think of. She thought than an answer was better than nothing. "Professor, I'm not quite sure, but could it be a combination of the characteristics of 4 and 7?" And that brought up another interesting thing in Ariella's mind. Could it be maybe about adding the digits together? She decided to hold off until other people had a chance to answer. She didn't want to confuse anyone - she had a tendency to do that when she had a question.
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SPOILER!!: Those thinking to reduce...
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Originally Posted by nups21
Ira raised her hand and answered, "Ma'am, should we take 47 as a combo of 4 and 7 or should we add it up till we get to the single digit number, like in this case, 4+7=11, then 1+1=2...so our final interpretation should be based on 2? If that is so, then maybe 47 represents same characteristics as 2 i.e. Harmony, unity, relationships, collaboration and duality"
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Originally Posted by Jason Potter Weasley
William raised his hand. " I think you must add 4 and 7 together to make the number 11.This Then add 1 plus 1 which equals 2" William told the professor. " The number 2 represents relationships, harmony and human magic' Willaim explained to the professor.
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Originally Posted by WitchLight27
Erin raised her hand feeling a little worried if her answer would be right. She'd met with Professor Hadley before, but the classroom is different. She smiled at her and started at once, "I think, we need to add up numbers 4 and 7, Professor. We are provided with the designated meaning of numbers 0 through 9 and so to come up with 1 single digit, we need to add two or more digits on and on until we get one single unified digit. The meaning of 47 would be that of number 2. We add 47 together and we get 11. We add the digits again and we get 2."
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Originally Posted by Con_Stripes
Corey was staring at the professor in precisely the way that you did if you thought someone was a bit crazy and might do something weird or interesting if you watched them for long enough. This was supposed to be an introduction?
Luckily he had a grip on the theory, and wasn't this class pretty much all theory?
"Aren't all numbers in Arithmancy reduced except where they're master numbers, Ma'am?" He stuck his hand up and it sort of hovered there a bit.
"So instead of Four and Seven being the numbers to look at, You add them together and you get Eleven, and that is a master number so you don't really need to reduce it again. Well you can, but you have to take into account what Eleven means first, because its like, higher functioning and greater expectation and stuff. Eleven means vision and light aaaand.... being uplifting and inspiring and guiding people and stuff. And not working from a place of selfishness." So it was a bad number for Slytherins.
Other than that, 47 was the number for silver right? And a prime number.
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Originally Posted by Trish
Penny thought about 47 for a few minutes, putting her hand in the air .."Professor, the 47 would be reduced to a single digit..... 4+7=11 and 1+1=2" Penny consulted her textbook and then continued..
"The Number 2 means Harmony, unity, relationships, collaboration
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Originally Posted by Lara_the_Firelady
Josh, busy with eyeing the numbers and their meanings or whatever they represent on the borard, did not look away even the other students had started to answer the Arithmancy professor's question. He was merely thinking that he rather liked the number one and number five on that board. But he knew unfortunately it never meant he would get what he liked.
Eh...
Finally looking at the professor, the Gryffindor decided to express his thoughts about the question as well ''I think it is either the meaning on the number we get by reducing it to a single digit or the meaning that we get after combining what the two numbers represent, maybe taking out those qualities that do not match or fit well each other...which is rather hard to figure out since there's no negative meanings on the board.''
Did that make sense? Eh...yes or no, it was his opinion and he was proud of it.
Hehe...
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Then Raven tried to answer the question, she raised up her hand.
"If I'm not mistaken, we need to add the combination of the number. For example like 47, so 4+7= 11. But... 11 is also a combination, right?"
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Why were they talking about them, then? This was the same thing that happened when people tried learning things from books. They're filled with things that are totally unimportant to what you want to know. Hadley was like a walking BOOK.
Ellie will be keeping a closer eye on this Professor from now on. Just in case she morphed into her true book form and tried to EAT her.
OH OH OH!
THIS. This she knew. "You add them together, the four and the seven. It'd make eleven. And since eleven's an uber special, really awesome number, you don't reduce it anymore." And you could find whatever eleven meant in the textbook. Ellie didn't know offhand, and wasn't going to pull out the book unless it was COMPLETELY necessary. Which she was sure it wasn't, because she was positive she didn't need to tell Hadley what that special number meant. Hadley probably had the book memorized. OR her true form was an Arithmancy textbook. Either way, Ellie needn't waste breathe explaining what the Professor already knew.
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Oh Marie knew this one, or at least she thought she did. With her hand in the air she voiced her answer. "With a number like 47 you would add together the 4 and 7 and come up with 11. Since 11 is one of the Master Numbers you leave it as that and do not break it down any further. The number 11 has the meaning of: Master of Illumination, the inspirational messenger, the number of light; one who raises consciousness, reformer of world problems, wants to uplift others, inspires by teaching own truth."
Yep, that's the way she seen it so that meant it was true... right?
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Uh, what? Tori had gotten the first part up til now but now they were going into TWO digit numbers?
"Don't you have to reduce the numbers first, professor, like do 4 + 7 so that you get 11? And then you look at whatever the book says for 11?"
This class contained too much referencing of textbooks for Tori's liking.
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Originally Posted by Miss Marilyn
Marilyn raised her hand, "You simply add them together...The 4 plus 7 equals 11...And because 11 is, indeed, a Master number, you do not break it down further."
There were a few Master numbers, as well...Would they also be giving characteristics for them? Flipping to that page, she looked over the material...just in case.
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Rory watched as the list of numbers and their descriptions appeared instantly on the board. As soon as the last number came on, he began scribbling these notes into a notebook as quickly possible before they ever disappeared. But as he was doing so, the number 47 came. 47...combination...that's obvious. Rory raised his hand immediately.
"You can't have a certain, I guess, characteristic for forty-seven. It's double-digit number meaning you have to add the two digits together?" It was until he said this out loud that he began to think he was completely wrong. That couldn't be right, could it? Oh, well. Just keep going, Rory. "And so, when you add the two digits, four and seven, you get eleven, right? But again, eleven is also a two digit number meaning you would have to add the digits together. One plus one is obviously two and there you go. Two is your number and the characteristics for two are exactly how they're stated up there." He pointed at the board. "I guess, technically you could say that forty-seven has the same characteristics as two. Heavy emphasis on relationship and being cooperative with others, being in harmony, and all that junk."
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Originally Posted by Anna Banana
Sierra looked up at the professor, an expression of confusion spread all across her face. See, this was why she hated Ancient Runes, Arithmancy, and Divination. They were all confusing and required way too much thought before answering.
...and why was nearly everyone suggesting something different?!
She thought about the question for a few extra seconds then raised her hand. "Four plus seven equals eleven, which is a master number," she said. What did eleven mean again? "An eleven stands for someone who wants to do good in this world...someone who wants to change the world for the better." Then how would that fit into four and seven? Did she even have to add those two in? "...and if you still needed to factor in the four and the seven, then maybe..." She trailed off as she thought. "...maybe it just shows you put a lot of thought into what you do to makes things better. It's not just quick, thoughtless ideas."
Ugh. What did just say anyway?!
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47?
Okay...
Luna raised her hand ''Fourty seven is a two diget number so you have to add them together 4+7= 11 and because it's a two diget number you have to do it again 1+1= 2 so your answer is two,'' she replied it was easier the more you thought about it really
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Okay..47 that shouldn’t be too hard to figure out. Nessie wasn’t too good with numbers but it was always worth a try.Wouldn’t be the two connected together She asked herself trying to figure out the answer.Like wouldn’t it have be 4 which is all about being hard working and about being organized, which is then added to 7 which is about research, focus and wisdom.
No this all seemed very wrong! Nessie gave her head a little smack trying to turn it on. Then she came up with what she thought was the right answer. She raised her hand confindently. "Professor because the number is two digits you add the 4 and 7 together that equals 11 and then since 11 is still a two digit number you add it together aswell which would then equal 2. So your answer would be 2 which is about harmony, relationships, unity and so on" Ness still had a confused look on her face. This Arithmancy was just too confusing for her mind to take in.
Professor Hadley just smiled as students began their guessing of what 'forty-seven' might mean. Oh, some of them were quite ready to begin name calculations. Such a pity that they weren't doing that today.
"The reduction would be correct, under normal Arithmatical calculations." She paused. "But alas, none of those calculations in today's class." So sadly, both eleven and two, are wrong.
SPOILER!!: Adding MORE math?! o.O
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Kurumi sat back a bit as numbers and what not were discussed. It was probably best to let the newer students answer these bits, right? Not to mention Kurumi was still a little traumatized from the slight eyebrow raise from answer. Besides, up to now had been mostly review.
Kurumi cocked her head to the side. Two digit numbers? Up until now they had always been told to reduce the numbers to a single digit, but that didn't seem to be the case this time around. Since people were already discussing adding and subtracting the numbers, even combining the meanings, Kurumi opted to think of something else - especially since they had just been discussing PEMAS. "Perhaps," Kurumi said when it was her turn. "You first examine the multiples of the numbers? In this case, 47 is a prime number and can only be divisible by itself and one, so it takes on the meaning of one? Or perhaps the fact that it is a prime number implies something?" She rubbed the back of her neck as she thought some more. "Say we had 45 instead of 47, then perhaps it has the characteristics of 5 and 8?"
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Keefer was lost. He was pretty good at Muggle math, but this was way different. He never really understood Arithmancy, and this Numerology business didn't seem any easier. Well, it could just be the characteristics of 4 and the characteristics of 7, but that seems too obvious. No, Keefer liked to think outside of the box, and that idea was definitely in a tiny little box. Lid closed.
Adding the 4 and the 7? That could get me somewhere. Again, not too creative. Then something else came to him. Though he was excited about his idea, he tentatively raised his hand. This was still not a class he was good in.
"Professor, it looks to me like you listed the properties for ten digits. So those act as the core basis of our interpretation, right? Maybe with two- or three-digit numbers, you have to divide them by 10 and see what's left over! So, like with 47, if you divide it by 10 you get 4 with 7 left over. So then 47 would share the core characteristics with 7." He quickly looked up at the board. "Analysis, research, solitude, wisdom, spiritual focus, investigative, mysticism, and magic!" he finished, reading off the board.
He felt confident that he had made a good contribution to the class discussion, even if he was way off.
"While those are both very ... intellectual guesses," Hadley began, staring at the Gryffindor and the Hufflepuff, wide eyed. "You're over-thinking this." No need for division or prime numbers! She wasn't THAT insane!
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Jenny pondered for a while before quickly raising her hand. Wow, that was a good question.
"Um..." Jenny paused a bit before continuing. "with a number such as 47, there will be a combination of qualities from the numbers 4 and 7?" And she paused again. "Like 47 could represent hard work and wisdom at the same time...or it could represent endurance and spiritual focus."
It sounded so simple, yet why was Jenny thinking it could be wrong?
Before she could respond to any other inquiries, Fina had to stare at a young Ravenclaw. "Miss Takahashi...I'm afraid I don't understand a WORD you're saying." She could have sworn the fourth year was FINE not too long ago, but things happen in seconds at Hogwarts. "Nonetheless, five points from you for somehow managing to take a babbling draught during a lesson."
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SPOILER!!: Some combination of reducing and combining meanings...
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Originally Posted by Macavity
Gideon listened to what was being said, taking notes on certain things and all around trying to make sense of it all. At her last question, the Gryffindor mulled it over before raising his hand and answering. "Would it be a combination of the two numbers, 4 and 7....or a reduction of the number to its simply for which would be 2? " He questioned, not sure which way she meannt it to be derieved. "If the latter then it would involve harmony and relationships."
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Selina looked intensely at the list that her Professor had just riddled off. How could 47 fit into that list? Well she could do a couple of things. She could add up the four and the seven to get eleven. Then from there she could add one plus one together and get two. That would give her the answer of unity and such that went along with two.
Or she could just do four and seven separately and give both of her findings, "Ma'am? You can either interpret it as two because of the addition of four and seven and so on. Or you could just do four and seven separately and combine the findings.
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Victoria raised her hand after a few minutes of thoughtful thinking. "It really depends, professor. 4 and 7 must be reduced if it's in the same word/word chains." replied Victoria. "If not, I guess that you will take the two numbers and figure out the meanings. In this case, 4 basically means hard work, and 7 means wisdom and magical in a way. And if we put both of the numbers together, we can conclude that this person is hard working in his/her life, and that his wisdom and his research will make his/her life magical or lucky."
Victoria hoped that that made sense.
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Vashti briefly wondered whether she ought to write all that down in her notes before eventually deciding that she would. Sure, it was all in her textbook, but writing it down would help her remember it so she wouldn't have to always use her textbook - and that would be a good thing, right? Right. So she picked up her quill again and began scribbling the list on the blackboard onto her parchment.
As she wrote, she half-listened to the answers the other students were giving, using the other half of her focus to figure out one that she could give. By the time she finished and set down her quill, she had thought of one. Her hand was soon in the air.
"Typically in Arithmancy we reduce two digit numbers like 47, so when you add the four and the seven, it equals eleven which wouldn't be reduced because it's a master number. Eleven means things like 'an inspirational messenger' and a 'reformer of world problems', but I think it still possesses some of the qualities of the four and seven from the original number. I mean, if someone is an inspirational messenger, they're probably pretty wise, and they've probably done at least some research and investigating to figure out what their message is. And if they are going to reform the world's problems, that requires some wisdom too, as well as hard work and endurance, since it's not really a simple or easy thing to accomplish."
That...came out a bit longer than she'd intended. Did that even answer the question?
"So that's what a 47 could indicate." Now it did. Maybe. She lowered her hand anyway.
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Alyssa found herself lagging behind again. She hated playing catch up. The class was responding faster than she could think and even though she knew the answers, by the time she thought of raising her hand, the Professor had moved on. Sigh! At the rate she was going she was never going to earn any points in this class. But she was going to try! She quickly jotted down the characteristics of each number in her journal.
Then she thought about the combination of 4 and 7, and what 47 would represent.
Staring at the numbers, a thought suddenly dawned on Alyssa. 4+7=11. What were the odds of the Professor coming up with the number 47. High? But still the significance, at least to Alyssa was mind boggling. 11 was the month she was born in. 7 was the day!! She suddenly knew what the characteristics of the numbers 47 would be because she had struggled with it all her life.
Raising her hand, Alyssa said, "Professor, in order for us to understand the characteristics of 47, I think that we need to further breakdown the numbers. 4+7=11. 11 is considered to be a master number because it posseses more potential than the other numbers and is believed to be the most intuitive of all numbers. There is always a constant battle between it's characteristics because they are highly charged and hard to control. We have charisma, leadership and inspiration, together with dynamism and inner conflict. All these are good characteristics but if there isn't a goal to focus on, these characteristics can turn in themselves and cause phobias and fears.
So if we were to combine 11 with a 4 and a 7, we would have that battle of greatness vs self destruction, going on with down to practical down to earth 4, and spiritual 7. However, if we can find a way to balance out all three numbers' characteristics, 47 will possess amazing characteristics."
Alyssa hoped that her answer was correct. She sure as heck knew that she had a lot of 11 and an equal number of 7 inside her. No wonder she was unpredictable and weird sometimes.
Now. Where was she was? "Oh! You lot are getting closer... Thinking about combining the characteristics..." Nevermind the fact that one girl included 11 in her combination, but at least she didn't think a TWO was involved. And she had mentioned balancing them out.... the characteristics.
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Originally Posted by EastonionNW
Nate raised his hand. "Forming wisdom?"
"Er... close..." She guessed. Formation is four and wisdom is seven. She could see where he got that from.
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Nora stared at all those numbers, and she finally raised her hand when she had an answer in mind. "Four and seven are in some way related, aren't they? Four is all about hard work, and seven is about... intelligence, but still, hard work." Was that right?
"So... forty seven indicates something between the two." If that made any sense.
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"Could the number 47 possibly use characteristics from 4 and 7 such as hard work and research? It seems to be a number that theorists would find most helpful." Cael truthfully had no idea, but he hoped he didn't sound like a complete idiot.
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Minerva put her hand up. "Professor the number 47 could mean investigative, hardworking, organized, and research."
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Jory stared at the numbers thinking hard. He raised his hand. ''Uh, Professor, would we take the respective meaning for 4 and 7 and combine them? Like hard working researcher?''
Jory had no idea if he was on the right track.
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47... Hmm... Janice raised her hand hesitantly, and answered.
"Could we, like, combine the meanings? Well, not combine, but taking shared meanings from those numbers. Like, uhm, practicality, research, sober-mindedness and mysticism?" That couldn't be the answer, she thought. Impossible.
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Originally Posted by PhoenixAuror169
"Well, Professor," She began, softly, and shyly, "The number four, as I said earlier had the characteristics of building, formation, and hard work. The number seven's characteristics are analysis, research, wisdom, and magic. Maybe, the number Forty-Seven will result in the combination of the characteristics?" In her head, it made sense. Whether or not all of the characteristics would be shared, she didn't know.
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Louisa listened intently as the professor asked the question. Hmm. The logic thing to answer was what most people had already said. She raised her hand anyway, "I guess we can combine the characteristics of the two single digits?" Yeah, she really had no idea whether this sounded lame or not, it was just the right thing to do.
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"Is the combination of the characteristics of the numbers 4 and 7.
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Jayden raised her hand. "Perhaps the number 47 takes both qualities from four and seven?" She half answered, half asked.
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Wow. She didn't know any of that. Well, once again she's just a first year so nobody can really expect her to know those things ultimately. And with this, Beatrice did the best she could to jot down all the things that Professor Hadley said. Her parchment was almost full and her hands are all worn up.
But she still tried her best to answer the Professor's question. "Er-I think that the number 47 would indicate something like having optimism with one's work and task or something like that." she said, mumbling at the same time fretting. Numbers were one of her antagonists. They don't enjoy Beatrice's company.
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Ariella listened intently as everyone gave their answers. It seemed to her that Kurumi's answer was going to be correct. After all, she had given an answer that was out of the box.
Truthfully, Ariella didn't really have an idea of what 47 could be. It being a combination of 4 and 7 seemed like too simple of an answer. But that was the only thing she could think of. She thought than an answer was better than nothing. "Professor, I'm not quite sure, but could it be a combination of the characteristics of 4 and 7?" And that brought up another interesting thing in Ariella's mind. Could it be maybe about adding the digits together? She decided to hold off until other people had a chance to answer. She didn't want to confuse anyone - she had a tendency to do that when she had a question.
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Orr thought about the number 47. It seemed like number 4 and 7 complemented each other: 4 had Building, formation, hard work, endurance, sober-mindedness, practicality, organization while 7 had Analysis, research, solitude, wisdom, spiritual focus, investigative, mysticism, magic.
Add them together did give the master number of 11 but as she thought about it more-- she came up with 2 which is the final addition that could be made from the original numbers and that seemed to her to represent the best of both 4 and 7 combined. the number 2 has harmony, unity, relationships, collaboration, duality, humans/human magic.
Orr raised her hand and answered when the professor called on her, "Could it indicate in a double digit number that the individual characteristics of each number can combine with the other number's characteristics to create a more balanced number with more balanced characteristics?"
She hoped that she made sense.
At first she hadn't been sure the one Ravenclaw had figured it out, what with her vague answer, but actually, that was precisely it and would totally help for the next activity.
"Precisely! The number forty-seven, would take the characteristics of four and combine it with the characteristics of seven!" Fina exclaimed. Now that they knew one number and would have somewhat of an idea what they were doing....
"Now everyone take a few moments, with a partner, and make a list of what you think the characteristics of the following numbers are..."
19
28
37
52
080
"If you can't find a single partner, you're more than welcome to work in groups of three." Fina noted. "We will move onto the next activity once you've completed this..."
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"Precisely! The number forty-seven, would take the characteristics of four and combine it with the characteristics of seven!" Fina exclaimed. Now that they knew one number and would have somewhat of an idea what they were doing....[/COLOR]
"Now everyone take a few moments, with a partner, and make a list of what you think the characteristics of the following numbers are..."
19
28
37
52
080
"If you can't find a single partner, you're more than welcome to work in groups of three." Fina noted. "We will move onto the next activity once you've completed this..."
Gah, more numbers ? Her vision was getting blurry. Not literally but her brain clearly hurt. Why can't she absorb numbers ?!
So maybe, it was best to have a partner. Yeah. That was a good idea. It would be much greater if there would be three of them. After writing the given numbers on her parchment, she looked around, "Anyone wanna partner with me ?" she asked the crowd.
Gah, more numbers ? Her vision was getting blurry. Not literally but her brain clearly hurt. Why can't she absorb numbers ?!
So maybe, it was best to have a partner. Yeah. That was a good idea. It would be much greater if there would be three of them. After writing the given numbers on her parchment, she looked around, "Anyone wanna partner with me ?" she asked the crowd.
Ira looked around for a partner and found that a Ravenclaw too was searching...
She waved her "Hi, I'm Ira, I can be your partner...Whats your name? Are you too a first year like me?"
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Ira looked around for a partner and found that a Ravenclaw too was searching...
She waved her "Hi, I'm Ira, I can be your partner...Whats your name? Are you too a first year like me?"
Oh, there's a Gryffindor. That is judging from the scarlet color of her robes. She smiled at the girl, "I'm Beatrice. And yeah, I'm a first year too." she said.
Time to get started with the characteristics of the numbers. Yeah. The earlier the better, "So what do you think 19 means ?" she asked the Gryffie girl.
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Having stayed quiet once she'd been told she wasn't entirely accurate regarding Arithmancy in general, Stella had occupied herself with taking notes on the numbers as they were discussed and then the characteristics of how to interpret multiple digit numbers on their own. She knew that generally, reduction was important, but apparently that wasn't the case with today's subject. The idea of combining various meanings seemed more interesting anyhow, and she added the list of numbers to her notes as they were instructed to break into partners and analyse them on their own.
Once that had been done, she looked up again. "Does anyone want to be my partner?," she asked, smiling a little to herself as she didn't detect as much of an accent this time. Maybe it would get easier to pretend she was honestly English after not too much longer, even if she didn't want to forget French. At least as a language, and she didn't want to forget Risa either.
SPOILER!!: list of numbers to analyse (for my own reference)
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28
37
52
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Oh, there's a Gryffindor. That is judging from the scarlet color of her robes. She smiled at the girl, "I'm Beatrice. And yeah, I'm a first year too." she said.
Time to get started with the characteristics of the numbers. Yeah. The earlier the better, "So what do you think 19 means ?" she asked the Gryffie girl.
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Ira looked around for a partner and found that a Ravenclaw too was searching...
She waved her "Hi, I'm Ira, I can be your partner...Whats your name? Are you too a first year like me?"
"Can I group with you two?" Erin asked softly and shyly. She knew Beezus but the girl she's partnering with, she clearly hadn't met yet. "Hello, I'm Erin. And hi Beezus," she smiled.
She placed her quill and parchment at the table before they could even answer and waited for their reply.
Oh, there's a Gryffindor. That is judging from the scarlet color of her robes. She smiled at the girl, "I'm Beatrice. And yeah, I'm a first year too." she said.
Time to get started with the characteristics of the numbers. Yeah. The earlier the better, "So what do you think 19 means ?" she asked the Gryffie girl.
"19 means mixture of characteristics of one and nine...Hey but aren't these two numbers opposites? Like, 1 represents beginning and 9 represents end! So how can these numbers be combined?" Ira asked Beatrice
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"Can I group with you two?" Erin asked softly and shyly. She knew Beezus but the girl she's partnering with, she clearly hadn't met yet. "Hello, I'm Erin. And hi Beezus," she smiled.
She placed her quill and parchment at the table before they could even answer and waited for their reply.
Ira saw another girl approach them..."Hi I'm Ira, sure you can join us" she replied with a smile "We were just discussing what number 19 means."
"19 means mixture of characteristics of one and nine...Hey but aren't these two numbers opposites? Like, 1 represents beginning and 9 represents end! So how can these numbers be combined?" Ira asked Beatrice
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Ira saw another girl approach them..."Hi I'm Ira, sure you can join us" she replied with a smile "We were just discussing what number 19 means."
Erin smiled- "Hello Ira. Thanks!" she moved closer to her side giggling like a little kid given a lollipop. Then she stumbled on Ira's question. "Yeah, maybe somewhere in the middle?" she said jokingly. "Like midway?" Does she make sense? No. She couldn't even understand herself.
"How about somewhere between independence and tolerance?," Erin said pausing for a while not knowing what to add.
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Kurumii blushed a bit. Over-thinking, story of her life really. She turned her parchment over to a fresh page and wrote down the numbers to be discussed and then looked up. She saw that three first years had already separated off into a group, so much for pairs (hehe), so her head went in the other direction.
"Anyone else need a partner?"
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"Can I group with you two?" Erin asked softly and shyly. She knew Beezus but the girl she's partnering with, she clearly hadn't met yet. "Hello, I'm Erin. And hi Beezus," she smiled.
She placed her quill and parchment at the table before they could even answer and waited for their reply.
She looked up to see her friend Erin. Yayy ! They will be doing the potion together. With Ira, of course. "Sure," she answered as Erin placed her quill and parchment on their table.
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"19 means mixture of characteristics of one and nine...Hey but aren't these two numbers opposites? Like, 1 represents beginning and 9 represents end! So how can these numbers be combined?" Ira asked Beatrice
She looked confusingly at her, "Er-Just combine their meanings, I guess." Right? Like the example 47 that they had. "So maybe, 19 would mean the beginning of the end," she suggested.
Erin smiled- "Hello Ira. Thanks!" she moved closer to her side giggling like a little kid given a lollipop. Then she stumbled on Ira's question. "Yeah, maybe somewhere in the middle?" she said jokingly. "Like midway?" Does she make sense? No. She couldn't even understand herself.
"How about somewhere between independence and tolerance?," Erin said pausing for a while not knowing what to add.
Ira replied with a giggle, "Maybe who know? I'm not liking this lesson too much...How can some simple numbers have so many characteristics?" Ira didn't believe in Numerology..."Is our life really based on these numbers?"
"And what would be the midway between beginning and ending? Well lets just write it down in our parchment, and let professor do her own calculations. What say?" Saying so, Ira took a quill and wrote down 19 and the characteristics of both 1 and 9.
"We still have more numbers...."
Kurumii blushed a bit. Over-thinking, story of her life really. She turned her parchment over to a fresh page and wrote down the numbers to be discussed and then looked up. She saw that three first years had already separated off into a group, so much for pairs (hehe), so her head went in the other direction.
"Anyone else need a partner?"
Orr glanced around and saw that many students had already partnered up but she saw a Gryffindor 4th year looking for someone to partner with. "Hey." Orr said to her, "Do you want to partner up with me?"
She looked up to see her friend Erin. Yayy ! They will be doing the potion together. With Ira, of course. "Sure," she answered as Erin placed her quill and parchment on their table.
She looked confusingly at her, "Er-Just combine their meanings, I guess." Right? Like the example 47 that they had. "So maybe, 19 would mean the beginning of the end," she suggested.
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Ira replied with a giggle, "Maybe who know? I'm not liking this lesson too much...How can some simple numbers have so many characteristics?" Ira didn't believe in Numerology..."Is our life really based on these numbers?"
"And what would be the midway between beginning and ending? Well lets just write it down in our parchment, and let professor do her own calculations. What say?" Saying so, Ira took a quill and wrote down 19 and the characteristics of both 1 and 9.
"We still have more numbers...."
Erin smiled at her widely. From Ira's side, she moved in between the two girls and nudged her pretty friend Beezus on her side. Then, they both giggled. She took her quill and wrote down Beezus' idea. Then she took the time to write down her ideas as well.
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19- Beginning of the end
28- Sucess means collaboration
37-
52
080
"Look in here. Ideas for 28. How about yours?" she asked the two.