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Upon entering the Divination classroom, it seems the decor has been changed back to the way it had been set up for the tasseomancy lesson the previous term, or at least similar. Instead of desks, there are quite a few small round wooden tables arranged around the classroom, still leaving room between to walk, even if the chairs are pulled out. Four chairs sit around each table, but other than that there is nothing much to show what the topic that is going to be discussed is. Even the bookshelves along the wall are covered by a drape of colorful fabric, which at least lends some excitement to the room, and is made even brighter by the sunlight streaming in from open windows.
The only curious thing in the room would probably be the crystal ball close by Professor Bishop's elbow, seemingly ignored by her as she is idly focused on the Tarot cards she has arranged on the table in front of her. Is that part of the lesson, or just decoration?
ooc: The lesson will start no later than at some time midday tomorrow (PST), but feel free to post yourselves entering, etc. Curiosity is entirely welcome, as to what Professor Bishop is doing or anything else, but try not to involve yourselves in too much chatting amongst yourselves. I'll be checking in again later tonight, to reply if necessary.
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Nika raised her hand with an eyebrow raised. She may not know very much but she could offer a guess. Yes, that seemed like the best thing to do. "Well you said reflection? And mirrors show reflection so maybe a mirror?" The more she talked the stupider it sounded.
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Oh she knew this. Mia raised her hand in the air again almost knocking Treyen's head off in the process. "Water has been known to be used for scrying." There were other things she could think of but she should give everyone else a chance to have a go.
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Simon listened to the answers being given but kept quiet, no immediate ideas coming to mind about the crystal ball other then the fact it was a crystal ball. He heard Josh's reply and couldn't help but chuckle mildly amused but caught himself and returned to normal. However at the mention fo scrying by the professor the seventh year was reminded of something he had read in passing and he paid more attention, raising his hand when an idea came to mind.
"Wouldn't a pool or bowl of water be used for scrying as long as its clean and clear," he offered before lowering his hand. The boy wondering if he had hit upon the right thing.
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Hmm, another fascinating side-track, Renée thought as she heard Kurumi’s answer. “Another interesting fact,” she agreed with a smile, sensing that there had been something else in the Gryffindor’s mind not that long before that she supplanted by the scientific response. “I can’t say I know exactly what this particular crystal ball is made out of, but you very well might be right. This would have to be quite the old specimen if it was made out of beryl, however. Newer ones are made out of rock crystal, or quartz.” She might not have known exactly what made up this orb, but she still knew her history. As, it seemed, did Kurumi.
Kurumi nodded at Professor Bishop as she addressed her comment about what the crystal ball was made from. Not that it really related to the lesson, but Kurumi thought that she would much rather have a crystal ball made from beryl than quartz. Beryl just sounded more regal and like a queen. Queen Beryl perhaps...
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She turned and set the crystal ball in question back on her table, then returned her attention to the class in order to speak again. “Scrying, as so many of you have touched on,” whether or not they realized it, “is a method of using reflections, images, to gain insight into the past, present and future. of course, the reflections that one sees aren’t really there, but merely visions brought about through focus and reflected in the orb or whatever is used. Not only crystal balls can be used, in fact, for scrying. Does anyone want to suggest something else that could be used?” Eventually they would get to the actual activity she had planned, but touching on scrying was always in her plans. Everything was related when it came to Divination anyhow.
Kurumi thought for a moment about what Professor Bishop said, especially about using reflections and images in crystal balls to read into the future. "Professor Bishop, could you use any object that can reflection or cast shadows for the purpose of scrying? Or are there certain properties that the object must have? For example, Egyptians used ink, blood and other dark liquids when performed scrying. So, it seems like something that is liquid would ned to be dark. Can you not use water in a bowl?"
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Well, it wasn’t quite staying on topic, but Jai’s suggestion brought another grin to Renée’s face. “An interesting conjecture, Mr. Pierce,” she replied in amusement, before deciding to ask something of him. “What in fact would you expect to see if you had looked in this?” It wasn’t really important to the discussion as a whole, but she imagined the curiosity had been put out there by his suggestion anyhow. It could very well start off another interesting and informative tangent, depending on the answer.
She turned and set the crystal ball in question back on her table, then returned her attention to the class in order to speak again. “Scrying, as so many of you have touched on,” whether or not they realized it, “is a method of using reflections, images, to gain insight into the past, present and future. of course, the reflections that one sees aren’t really there, but merely visions brought about through focus and reflected in the orb or whatever is used. Not only crystal balls can be used, in fact, for scrying. Does anyone want to suggest something else that could be used?” Eventually they would get to the actual activity she had planned, but touching on scrying was always in her plans. Everything was related when it came to Divination anyhow.
ooc: Moving things along . . . Same rules apply as usual. (and those who replied to the first question all get one point)
Jai was a bit surprised at his Professor's response. He cleared his throat a bit and said,"In a literal sense, objects on the other side of the crystal ball would seem obscured but truly looking into it, things from the past, the future may be shown. That's what someone familiar with crystal balls may expect. But I think I would see the present in the clearest form; things hidden, things misunderstood, things not clear, even things lost. That's what I would expect to see in a crystal ball." He was confident in his answer whether right or wrong at the least he would now know what to expect if he did look into a crystal ball.
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Well the young Puff looked to be quite happy with where he was at, and Salander nodded good naturedly, leaning back in his seat and catching the sight of Sierra not too far away, looking to be quite the opposite of her twin. Eh? Does she need some happy candy? Then he spotted Josh take a seat next to her and grinned, well at least there'll be someone that would try to wipe the grumpiness off her face-- to replace it with what can be anybody's guess. Specially when it comes to Josh. Speaking of which he turned his head back towards Evelyn just as she said she was good-good. "Great!" the Slytehrin lad replied grinning and was about to say something about a spoon throwing contest they can hold in the common rooms when Professor Bishop spoke up....
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At the sound of the deep and dramatic sigh, Renée didn’t even bother trying to ignore it and go back to what she had been doing. It wasn’t like she couldn’t pick up her reading after finding out what was going on, and she couldn’t help but raise an eyebrow in curiosity as she saw it had been Salander who had made the noise. She wasn’t curious enough to ask, especially as his demeanor seemed to shift just as dramatically as he made his way to a seat near the front again, and she returned his easy smile. “Hello Salander. Ready for another foray into deciphering the future?,” she replied, teasing a little. Hopefully he wouldn’t be quite as distracted as he had been this time last term.
"Yes Ma'am!" he grinned cheekily. Heck he'd foray anything she tells him to to be honest.
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Slipping the deck of Tarot cards into her pocket for safekeeping, Renée looped around her table to stand in front of it as she sent the entire class another smile. “Okay, I think there’re enough of us here to start,” she began, waiting for the little conversations to die down as people started trying to focus. That would hopefully not take long, as she turned and picked up the crystal ball off the table behind her carefully before returning her attention to the class to hold it up so they could all see it better. “What is the first thing that comes to mind when you see this?,” she asked, before grinning a little as she looked at the glass herself. “I’m not going to bother asking if you even know what this is, but if that factors into your thoughts, I don’t mind.” She just had to hope the ideas weren’t too crazy, because she didn’t want to get distracted and drop the crystal ball. She didn’t have half as many of those as she did her Tarot cards, so replacements wouldn’t be as available.
Oh first question. He stared at the orb in her hands, and blurted out "Magnifying glass."Eh? "The better to see you with my dear.... errrr I mean Professor." he added quickly. And if one can see what he sees from the angle where he's sitting, what he said would make perfect sense.
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She turned and set the crystal ball in question back on her table, then returned her attention to the class in order to speak again. “Scrying, as so many of you have touched on,” whether or not they realized it, “is a method of using reflections, images, to gain insight into the past, present and future. of course, the reflections that one sees aren’t really there, but merely visions brought about through focus and reflected in the orb or whatever is used. Not only crystal balls can be used, in fact, for scrying. Does anyone want to suggest something else that could be used?” Eventually they would get to the actual activity she had planned, but touching on scrying was always in her plans. Everything was related when it came to Divination anyhow.
Scrying? Crying? Salander didnt want to see crying. Nope. Nu-uh. No way Jose. The Slytherin lad tilted his head. What else is that thing good for other than to see things really REALLY well? He shrugged slowly, pinched his lips and let out a wild guess "Well you got a crystal ball that can act as a magnifying glass so maybe you can start a nice fire-- make smores, grill some lamb chops, get some drinks, you know--have a party!" What does that have anything to do with scrying? He has no idea.
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Treyen nodded at Mia's response, though. She was right, if they were going to need a partner in this particular lesson, then they could work together. It seemed perfectly good to him.
And then...the class had started.
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Slipping the deck of Tarot cards into her pocket for safekeeping, Renée looped around her table to stand in front of it as she sent the entire class another smile. “Okay, I think there’re enough of us here to start,” she began, waiting for the little conversations to die down as people started trying to focus. That would hopefully not take long, as she turned and picked up the crystal ball off the table behind her carefully before returning her attention to the class to hold it up so they could all see it better. “What is the first thing that comes to mind when you see this?,” she asked, before grinning a little as she looked at the glass herself. “I’m not going to bother asking if you even know what this is, but if that factors into your thoughts, I don’t mind.” She just had to hope the ideas weren’t too crazy, because she didn’t want to get distracted and drop the crystal ball. She didn’t have half as many of those as she did her Tarot cards, so replacements wouldn’t be as available.
Actually, he wanted to say 'Nolan', because that was the first thing that popped into his head when he entered the classroom and walked inside. But, that would make no sense to many. He could go with 'Divination', or 'Seers', or something related to that, but that was fairly obvious, and the 'Future', per say, had been mentioned.
He still answered, though, after raising his hand, "Lightning," that was the second thing he will always remembered whenever a crystal ball could be around. Mainly because that's the first thing he thought he saw when they were presented with crystal gazing their first time around, but he wasn't going to mention that either. "You know, like those pseudo-energy balls Muggles used to have," where you placed one finger and then all the lightning-type stuff went over to that point? Remember? Yeah, they looked alike.
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Another grin crept onto Renée’s face as Eino of the previous singing offered his response to the discussion, though. That was getting more to the actual point of the lesson, whether he knew it or not. “More accurately, crystal balls are used for crystallomancy,” she pointed out, “ although that in fact is a branch of scrying. I would imagine most serious Diviners wouldn’t use their crystal balls as paperweights, however. Not the ones they specifically use, as that could dim the orb’s power.” At least, that was her opinion. One didn’t usually use their wand for anything other than magical things, most of the time, and that should extend to other magical tools as well.
She turned and set the crystal ball in question back on her table, then returned her attention to the class in order to speak again. “Scrying, as so many of you have touched on,” whether or not they realized it, “is a method of using reflections, images, to gain insight into the past, present and future. of course, the reflections that one sees aren’t really there, but merely visions brought about through focus and reflected in the orb or whatever is used. Not only crystal balls can be used, in fact, for scrying. Does anyone want to suggest something else that could be used?” Eventually they would get to the actual activity she had planned, but touching on scrying was always in her plans. Everything was related when it came to Divination anyhow.
His hand was raised again, as Bishop asked another question, "Anything that involves a reflective surface, really, whether it's solid or liquid, glass or water." Treyen nodded, and the nod was also directed to Mia, for she had said the water part before him.
And yes, Miss Malfoy, you are welcome to stop by my office any time if you’d like to discuss the Tarot,” she added, glancing at the blonde Ravenclaw with another little smile. “But let’s try and stay on topic here, alright?"
She turned and set the crystal ball in question back on her table, then returned her attention to the class in order to speak again. “Scrying, as so many of you have touched on,” whether or not they realized it, “is a method of using reflections, images, to gain insight into the past, present and future. of course, the reflections that one sees aren’t really there, but merely visions brought about through focus and reflected in the orb or whatever is used. Not only crystal balls can be used, in fact, for scrying. Does anyone want to suggest something else that could be used?” Eventually they would get to the actual activity she had planned, but touching on scrying was always in her plans. Everything was related when it came to Divination anyhow.
ooc: Moving things along . . . Same rules apply as usual. (and those who replied to the first question all get one point)
Hannah raise her hand Could it Be A bowl of water or something dark that you can do scrying with.Sorry professor she said with a smile then Putting on her Black glasses and she smiled.
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Aha!
There was Bishop! Tell us what awesome stuff you had for this class woman! Like do it now! Hehehehehhee. No need to be rude of course. He was just mind joking. And mind joking was those jokes he had in mind which had not been voiced out yet. Learned something new? Yea, you definitely had.
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Watching the woman carefully, his eyes got fixed on the crystall ball which was known to be used for seeing stuff to get info about one's info. But the professor did not ask that, did she? Nope. She had asked what was the first thing that came to his mind. And what was that? ''A huge pearl that i would like to present my beloved Evelyn!'' he uttered rather loudly with a huge smirk on his face.
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Renée had in fact asked the students what the first thing that came to their mind when they looked at a crystal ball was, but part of her hadn’t exactly expected to get entirely offbeat and creative answers. Of course, she should have expected it from Josh and Evelyn. In their own ways, they were always the ones who could come up with something interesting. “I’m sure she would enjoy that, Josh,” she said dryly, giving him a wry smile as she glanced at the Slytherin to see if she’d been paying attention. At least they hadn’t gone back to the discussion about fire symbology. It seemed Evelyn had her own ideas about the topic at hand, however, and that might have saved her Gryffindor from too much glares and such. That remained to be seen, though. “It could very well have been a bubble, Evelyn. Good suggestion, especially as it could be said there’s a bit of an ephemeral quality to both,” she said to the girl instead. Still waiting to see if there was going to be a reaction to Josh’s antics.
Hmm there was her Gryffindor! With an answer that...well...
If only it were true.
Grinning as a little laugh escaped her, she leaned against the table, hands folded under her chin, and just looking over at him. Until of course, Professor Bishop said something about...something. Ephermal? Wha? What did THAT mean? She wasn't insulting her answer was she? Pssh.
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She turned and set the crystal ball in question back on her table, then returned her attention to the class in order to speak again. “Scrying, as so many of you have touched on,” whether or not they realized it, “is a method of using reflections, images, to gain insight into the past, present and future. of course, the reflections that one sees aren’t really there, but merely visions brought about through focus and reflected in the orb or whatever is used. Not only crystal balls can be used, in fact, for scrying. Does anyone want to suggest something else that could be used?” Eventually they would get to the actual activity she had planned, but touching on scrying was always in her plans. Everything was related when it came to Divination anyhow.
However, she didn't really get the chance to ask since Bishop started to continue with the class. Eh, she'd just look up Ephermal later. There had to be something in the library about it.
Wait...no way. NO WAY! "Fire can be used for scrying." she SMILED. Why was she smiling? Because! Fire was INVOLVED. "Are we by any chance using fire for anything today?"
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She turned and set the crystal ball in question back on her table, then returned her attention to the class in order to speak again. “Scrying, as so many of you have touched on,” whether or not they realized it, “is a method of using reflections, images, to gain insight into the past, present and future. of course, the reflections that one sees aren’t really there, but merely visions brought about through focus and reflected in the orb or whatever is used. Not only crystal balls can be used, in fact, for scrying. Does anyone want to suggest something else that could be used?” Eventually they would get to the actual activity she had planned, but touching on scrying was always in her plans. Everything was related when it came to Divination anyhow.[/COLOR]
Well pin a rose on your nose, Professor Bishop!
Sierra had just raised her hand to provide some sort of insight on that first question, when the professor hastily moved on to the next question. Mehh. Just her luck to be stuck in a class she was already very skeptical about and be too late to even attempt an answer. She frowned but otherwise just listened to the rest of the discussion.
Scrying--it sounded like crying to her. So the images inside the crystal ball were really just perceptions and not actual images? Ha! She knew this subject was a fake! Nevertheless, she raised her hand, if for nothing else than to at least attempt a decent grade. She could just imagine the look on her father's face if she brought home failing grades! "What about water or fire? Or smoke for that matter?" she suggested.
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Alex raised his hand. "Well, you could use water, although it might be kind of difficult to try and see anything but your face in there," he explained. How could anyone focus on anything but their reflection? That must not be the best way to do a reading, he guessed.
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Rebecca thought for a little bit. Then, suddenly, two things poped into her head. "Isn't a mirror one?" she asked. "Since in fairy tales the people always look into mirrors and see things in them. And can't water be one also? Because I read somewhere that said something about water being a really good alternative to a crystal ball when scrying." She wasn't too sure about any of her answers but at least she tried, right?
Caroline thought for a moment trying think of one that no one else had said. Nearly everyone had said what she knew and most were repeating them. She raise her hand, if Crystal balls were one then why couldn't the crystal jewels be used. It kind of made sence. "Crystals, like the jewel crystals."
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Simon smiled as the professor returned his greeting before being brought back to the current conversation as Kyle started introductions for the one girl's sake. "Nice to meet you, Zara," he said with a polite smile towards her, unconsciously echoing what the Ravenclaw said just moments before. His gaze passing to his fellow seventh year when she asked about quidditch.
"Pretty well..." he answered simply. "Only had one so far so hopefully the rest will go the same way," he added with a one armed shrug as he retrieved a roll of parchment and quill for any notes he could take when the class began.
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Flipping the top card from her deck over idly, just to appease her curiosity, Renée glanced at it quickly before returning her attention to the classroom as it continued filling up. Interest was always good, and useful. "Good day to you as well, Heather," she responded as the Gryffindor girl as she'd looked for a seat. She'd picked up on a little bit of frustration, but wasn't about to question it. Concern was something she always felt, but the girl was getting herself past the feeling anyhow and preparing for the lesson. Therefore, she could go back to gathering her own thoughts, preparing herself for the lesson.
Her eyes widened as Renée watched the next student stumble his way into the classroom, but as he managed to regain his balance, she schooled her face into a less concerned expression. Although it was still there as he tried to catch his breath, and she shook her head slightly in response to his question before Heather answered it for her. “No, it hasn’t quite started yet, and please do,” she did reply, before giving him a gentle smile. “Make yourself comfortable, Daichi, and I’ll start the lesson soon.” He seemed to be catching his breath finally, at least. People didn’t need to rush to her lesson, as far as she was concerned.
The next arrival certainly didn’t seem to have been rushing, nor really concerned as to what they might be learning. One of those was a good thing, as there truly was no need to rush, but the other was troublesome. Renée gave the girl a friendly smile, tinged by the tiniest bit of concern, though. “Hello K-Lee,” she replied, having noted the Slytherin’s physical appearance. That was never good, and she silently tried to ask her if she was okay, with a look. She didn’t want to embarrass her by actually pointing anything out, if K-Lee was trying to keep things to herself. That didn’t stop her from hoping she was alright.
An amused smile crept onto Renée’s face as she saw the next student slide inside the door like he was in a Muggle movie or something. That was always an interesting entrance, but as she watched, he had to struggle to regain his balance. There was always a downside to dramatic arrivals, as she knew. “Hello, Mr. Keaton,” she replied once he had managed to gather himself together. “Why don’t you find yourself a seat and we’ll get things started soon,” she suggested. Preferably not in some possibly dangerous way, even though those were still rather amusing. They weren’t for the classroom, though.
It seemed not everyone was concerned about being late, or making an entrance, and Renée smiled at the little first year as she walked into the classroom. There was definitely excitement there, but it was controlled somehow. Impressive. “Hello Miss Marchbanks,” she replied, watching as the girl made her way to a seat. Politeness was always a good starting point, especially until she could definitively learn everyone’s name. She had a feeling that wouldn’t be difficult with this Gryffindor, as she caught the interest in the crystal ball. Revealing its purpose was going to be interesting, but she understood why it had gotten the attention.
Renée nodded to herself as yet another Gryffindor first year trailed into the classroom. The faintest curiosity about if the first year interest was skewed toward that house flickered through her mind, but she didn’t betray her thoughts one bit as she smiled at the girl. She’d done her homework, it seemed, at least when it came to learning the professors’ names. “Hello Miss Adler,” she replied, idly wondering if this girl was related to the other enthusiastic Gryffindor she knew. That was neither here nor there, though, and she glanced around the room again to see how many seats were left open by now. Still quite a few, so she’d wait a bit longer to start.
Another nervous student had apparently decided to enter, and Renée had to wonder if it was the subject or if the Aparecium parchment’s messages from last term were still in people’s minds. That had been amusing to her, but there was always the possibility it could have influenced people. She smiled at the new Hufflepuff Quidditch Captain, though. “Hello, Isobel,” she replied. “Just relax for a little bit and I’ll get things moving soon.” Probably once some more of the seats had been filled, even if that wasn’t really important. She wasn’t about to make anyone feel left out, by starting the lesson too soon.
”Hello Renesmee,” Renée replied with a smile, as the Hufflepuff made her way into the classroom. “I’m doing quite well.” It was curious, how certain students seemed to feel the need to ask, but she wasn’t about to dismiss the question unanswered. Not when essentially, she was perfectly fine. It was just not exactly related to the lesson at hand, so it threw her a little. As did the fact it seemed like the empty seats were starting to get harder to find, which made her think about getting her wand ready to summon some more chairs. It wasn’t quite necessary yet, though, as she watched the girl find a seat with Treyen and Mia.
It seemed Selina had understood her unsaid message, which made Renée relax a bit more as the Gryffindor gave her another smile. She worried about the redhead, especially knowing she could only help so much before things were beyond her knowledge. “You’re welcome, and I appreciate the compliment,” she replied with a smile of her own. Selina had a difficult situation to handle, but she had a feeling the girl would end up surprising everyone. If she could get past her own prejudices against what she was and tell herself it wasn’t a curse. Abilities were always only what they were seen as.
Turning back to the door, Renée widened her eyes again in concern as another girl ran in, out of breath. Running late was one thing, but she didn’t want anyone to end up in the hospital wing just from trying to make it to class on time. “Good day, Charlie,” she replied, managing to smile at the Ravenclaw as she made sure nobody was going to pass out. Luckily, everything seemed okay for now, even if there was a bit of tension in the room as the girl worked her way through the tables. Charlie had found a seat, so she could concentrate on everyone else for now.
That seemed to be good timing, as Renée turned to look at the door as yet another girl came racing in. “Hello, Amy,” she replied calmly, acknowledging the apology and giving the Hufflepuff a smile as the girl fell into a seat. “Not quite late yet, but that was cutting it close. Apparently there was even more curiosity than she’d expected there, and she raised an eyebrow questioningly as the repeated questioning and apologetic aspect of the girl’s words. “It’s okay,” she assured her. “Class will be starting in a few moments.” Hopefully she could gather herself together before then.
Renée grinned slightly at the curious smile on the Slytherin boy’s face as Alex had entered, and the amusement didn’t fade as it had flickered into a full-on grin towards herself. “Good day to yourself as well, Alex,” she replied with another smile. It seemed curiosity had made way for a bit of a challenge, but she knew what she planned should be up for that. It definitely had mysterious aspects to it, which should entertain people and make them think. Of course, most of the topics she could think of would likely be the same way, but for now she needed to settle things down and get the lesson started.
Slipping the deck of Tarot cards into her pocket for safekeeping, Renée looped around her table to stand in front of it as she sent the entire class another smile. “Okay, I think there’re enough of us here to start,” she began, waiting for the little conversations to die down as people started trying to focus. That would hopefully not take long, as she turned and picked up the crystal ball off the table behind her carefully before returning her attention to the class to hold it up so they could all see it better. “What is the first thing that comes to mind when you see this?,” she asked, before grinning a little as she looked at the glass herself. “I’m not going to bother asking if you even know what this is, but if that factors into your thoughts, I don’t mind.” She just had to hope the ideas weren’t too crazy, because she didn’t want to get distracted and drop the crystal ball. She didn’t have half as many of those as she did her Tarot cards, so replacements wouldn’t be as available.
ooc: Okay. Class has started, so anyone who hasn’t “entered” yet should just pretend they’ve been here all along. Get as creative as you like with answers, but as usual, try to limit yourself to only one or two ideas so everyone can try to participate. And no copying from Google/Wikipedia/etc., as usual. Use your own words, as I will know if you don’t.
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Renée had in fact asked the students what the first thing that came to their mind when they looked at a crystal ball was, but part of her hadn’t exactly expected to get entirely offbeat and creative answers. Of course, she should have expected it from Josh and Evelyn. In their own ways, they were always the ones who could come up with something interesting. “I’m sure she would enjoy that, Josh,” she said dryly, giving him a wry smile as she glanced at the Slytherin to see if she’d been paying attention. At least they hadn’t gone back to the discussion about fire symbology. It seemed Evelyn had her own ideas about the topic at hand, however, and that might have saved her Gryffindor from too much glares and such. That remained to be seen, though. “It could very well have been a bubble, Evelyn. Good suggestion, especially as it could be said there’s a bit of an ephemeral quality to both,” she said to the girl instead. Still waiting to see if there was going to be a reaction to Josh’s antics.
Text Cut: cynics ;)
So far so good, and Renée glanced at the rest of the students, still balancing the crystal ball in her hands, as they continued offering suggestions. The few who had offered a cynical point of view made another wry smile creep onto her face, even though they had a point. “Interesting outlook, you two. No less true, considering the fact that crystal balls are quite often present in the imagery loved by Muggle fortune tellers and the like, whether or not they in fact do have divinatory abilities. It can be hard to really say if they in fact do see anything or not,” she began, before Mia’s hand had raised as well to offer another amusing opinion on the matter. “Seems you might have first-hand experience in that matter, Mia. Once again, that is sadly always possible, the use of magic to deceive people.” She couldn’t help but wonder what exactly did happen when a stranger would arrive.
Text Cut: past, future, prophecy
They needed to get back on the topic of actual divination, though, so Renée refrained from asking for even more elaboration on Mia’s story. Luckily, it seemed many people were more apt to just go with the idea of crystal balls as conduits for the future, and she smiled at all the students who had said something to that effect. The little history lesson brought a bit of a grin to her face as well. “Yes, most commonly crystal balls are supposed to be said to give the diviner images of the future, although in fact if the right questions are asked images of just about anything could be seen,” she replied, acknowledging William’s suggestion that the past could be seen as well. “And in fact you are correct, Miss Marchbanks. Professor Trelawney allegedly did use crystal balls as weapons during the Battle of Hogwarts, but then I’d imagine if you studied that incident you would find that pretty much everything available was used in that fashion.”
She nodded again as Alex brought up the similarities between crystal balls and the prophecies stored in the Ministry, and gave him a smile as well. “Another valid point, although do you really believe that crystal balls have nothing real inside of them?,” she posited, before sending a little grin over at Kannalynne at her argument. “Uncertainty can, as it seems you have said, be attributed to any form of Divination, Miss Basthowe, not just with the use of crystal balls,” she agreed. “If one truly could know the future, it would mean that none of us have any real choices in life, and I don’t believe anyone would say that would be a good thing. And yes, Miss Malfoy, you are welcome to stop by my office any time if you’d like to discuss the Tarot,” she added, glancing at the blonde Ravenclaw with another little smile. “But let’s try and stay on topic here, alright?”
Well, it wasn’t quite staying on topic, but Jai’s suggestion brought another grin to Renée’s face. “An interesting conjecture, Mr. Pierce,” she replied in amusement, before deciding to ask something of him. “What in fact would you expect to see if you had looked in this?” It wasn’t really important to the discussion as a whole, but she imagined the curiosity had been put out there by his suggestion anyhow. It could very well start off another interesting and informative tangent, depending on the answer.
Hmm, another fascinating side-track, Renée thought as she heard Kurumi’s answer. “Another interesting fact,” she agreed with a smile, sensing that there had been something else in the Gryffindor’s mind not that long before that she supplanted by the scientific response. “I can’t say I know exactly what this particular crystal ball is made out of, but you very well might be right. This would have to be quite the old specimen if it was made out of beryl, however. Newer ones are made out of rock crystal, or quartz.” She might not have known exactly what made up this orb, but she still knew her history. As, it seemed, did Kurumi.
Another grin crept onto Renée’s face as Eino of the previous singing offered his response to the discussion, though. That was getting more to the actual point of the lesson, whether he knew it or not. “More accurately, crystal balls are used for crystallomancy,” she pointed out, “ although that in fact is a branch of scrying. I would imagine most serious Diviners wouldn’t use their crystal balls as paperweights, however. Not the ones they specifically use, as that could dim the orb’s power.” At least, that was her opinion. One didn’t usually use their wand for anything other than magical things, most of the time, and that should extend to other magical tools as well.
She turned and set the crystal ball in question back on her table, then returned her attention to the class in order to speak again. “Scrying, as so many of you have touched on,” whether or not they realized it, “is a method of using reflections, images, to gain insight into the past, present and future. of course, the reflections that one sees aren’t really there, but merely visions brought about through focus and reflected in the orb or whatever is used. Not only crystal balls can be used, in fact, for scrying. Does anyone want to suggest something else that could be used?” Eventually they would get to the actual activity she had planned, but touching on scrying was always in her plans. Everything was related when it came to Divination anyhow.
ooc: Moving things along . . . Same rules apply as usual. (and those who replied to the first question all get one point)
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Simon listened to the answers being given but kept quiet, no immediate ideas coming to mind about the crystal ball other then the fact it was a crystal ball. He heard Josh's reply and couldn't help but chuckle mildly amused but caught himself and returned to normal. However at the mention fo scrying by the professor the seventh year was reminded of something he had read in passing and he paid more attention, raising his hand when an idea came to mind.
"Wouldn't a pool or bowl of water be used for scrying as long as its clean and clear," he offered before lowering his hand. The boy wondering if he had hit upon the right thing.
Kyle looked over to Professor, she was kind of glad in a sense that well, class had started ands he didn't have to endure the awkwardness that was what Hannah had said to Simon...no they weren't dating. But she wouldn't say anything classes had started. She was sure that his answer was right, yeah if the water had a flat surface and wasn't rippling what so ever.
"Professor, aren't mirrors used in scrying as well" and then, if her memory served her well they had talked about a certain type of scrying the year before. "Also, wouldn't pyromancy be typically listed as a type of scrying even though it is with fire" yes she did love fire, mainly because it kept you warm...not setting things on fire. "As I recall, the most commonly used types of scrying are crystalomancy, pyromancy, Catoptromancy, and as Simon stated scrying with water which is a type of hydromancy" she blushed.
Yes, blushed. Even though she was a Ravenclaw she didn't always like giving huge speeches.
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Another grin crept onto Renée’s face as Eino of the previous singing offered his response to the discussion, though. That was getting more to the actual point of the lesson, whether he knew it or not. “More accurately, crystal balls are used for crystallomancy,” she pointed out, “ although that in fact is a branch of scrying. I would imagine most serious Diviners wouldn’t use their crystal balls as paperweights, however. Not the ones they specifically use, as that could dim the orb’s power.” At least, that was her opinion. One didn’t usually use their wand for anything other than magical things, most of the time, and that should extend to other magical tools as well.
She turned and set the crystal ball in question back on her table, then returned her attention to the class in order to speak again. “Scrying, as so many of you have touched on,” whether or not they realized it, “is a method of using reflections, images, to gain insight into the past, present and future. of course, the reflections that one sees aren’t really there, but merely visions brought about through focus and reflected in the orb or whatever is used. Not only crystal balls can be used, in fact, for scrying. Does anyone want to suggest something else that could be used?” Eventually they would get to the actual activity she had planned, but touching on scrying was always in her plans. Everything was related when it came to Divination anyhow.
If all they needed was an objected that could reflect images then plenty of items could be used. "Could a metal spoon be used?" It is sort of like a mirror, but it was a spoon, so it was like eating and scrying, two in one sort of deal. This all reminded him of his plants to launch a career as a soothsayer, but that hadn't worked out properly, really, because he couldn't soothsay anything. He really just liked to make stuff up and hope it would be convincing enough for others to believe in him. But, it would be nice to actually learn it so he could soothsay accurately and make some monies so he could buy more dragon scales.
Renée had in fact asked the students what the first thing that came to their mind when they looked at a crystal ball was, but part of her hadn’t exactly expected to get entirely offbeat and creative answers. Of course, she should have expected it from Josh and Evelyn. In their own ways, they were always the ones who could come up with something interesting. “I’m sure she would enjoy that, Josh,” she said dryly, giving him a wry smile as she glanced at the Slytherin to see if she’d been paying attention. At least they hadn’t gone back to the discussion about fire symbology. It seemed Evelyn had her own ideas about the topic at hand, however, and that might have saved her Gryffindor from too much glares and such. That remained to be seen, though. “It could very well have been a bubble, Evelyn. Good suggestion, especially as it could be said there’s a bit of an ephemeral quality to both,” she said to the girl instead. Still waiting to see if there was going to be a reaction to Josh’s antics.
Text Cut: cynics ;)
So far so good, and Renée glanced at the rest of the students, still balancing the crystal ball in her hands, as they continued offering suggestions. The few who had offered a cynical point of view made another wry smile creep onto her face, even though they had a point. “Interesting outlook, you two. No less true, considering the fact that crystal balls are quite often present in the imagery loved by Muggle fortune tellers and the like, whether or not they in fact do have divinatory abilities. It can be hard to really say if they in fact do see anything or not,” she began, before Mia’s hand had raised as well to offer another amusing opinion on the matter. “Seems you might have first-hand experience in that matter, Mia. Once again, that is sadly always possible, the use of magic to deceive people.” She couldn’t help but wonder what exactly did happen when a stranger would arrive.
Text Cut: past, future, prophecy
They needed to get back on the topic of actual divination, though, so Renée refrained from asking for even more elaboration on Mia’s story. Luckily, it seemed many people were more apt to just go with the idea of crystal balls as conduits for the future, and she smiled at all the students who had said something to that effect. The little history lesson brought a bit of a grin to her face as well. “Yes, most commonly crystal balls are supposed to be said to give the diviner images of the future, although in fact if the right questions are asked images of just about anything could be seen,” she replied, acknowledging William’s suggestion that the past could be seen as well. “And in fact you are correct, Miss Marchbanks. Professor Trelawney allegedly did use crystal balls as weapons during the Battle of Hogwarts, but then I’d imagine if you studied that incident you would find that pretty much everything available was used in that fashion.”
She nodded again as Alex brought up the similarities between crystal balls and the prophecies stored in the Ministry, and gave him a smile as well. “Another valid point, although do you really believe that crystal balls have nothing real inside of them?,” she posited, before sending a little grin over at Kannalynne at her argument. “Uncertainty can, as it seems you have said, be attributed to any form of Divination, Miss Basthowe, not just with the use of crystal balls,” she agreed. “If one truly could know the future, it would mean that none of us have any real choices in life, and I don’t believe anyone would say that would be a good thing. And yes, Miss Malfoy, you are welcome to stop by my office any time if you’d like to discuss the Tarot,” she added, glancing at the blonde Ravenclaw with another little smile. “But let’s try and stay on topic here, alright?”
Well, it wasn’t quite staying on topic, but Jai’s suggestion brought another grin to Renée’s face. “An interesting conjecture, Mr. Pierce,” she replied in amusement, before deciding to ask something of him. “What in fact would you expect to see if you had looked in this?” It wasn’t really important to the discussion as a whole, but she imagined the curiosity had been put out there by his suggestion anyhow. It could very well start off another interesting and informative tangent, depending on the answer.
Hmm, another fascinating side-track, Renée thought as she heard Kurumi’s answer. “Another interesting fact,” she agreed with a smile, sensing that there had been something else in the Gryffindor’s mind not that long before that she supplanted by the scientific response. “I can’t say I know exactly what this particular crystal ball is made out of, but you very well might be right. This would have to be quite the old specimen if it was made out of beryl, however. Newer ones are made out of rock crystal, or quartz.” She might not have known exactly what made up this orb, but she still knew her history. As, it seemed, did Kurumi.
Another grin crept onto Renée’s face as Eino of the previous singing offered his response to the discussion, though. That was getting more to the actual point of the lesson, whether he knew it or not. “More accurately, crystal balls are used for crystallomancy,” she pointed out, “ although that in fact is a branch of scrying. I would imagine most serious Diviners wouldn’t use their crystal balls as paperweights, however. Not the ones they specifically use, as that could dim the orb’s power.” At least, that was her opinion. One didn’t usually use their wand for anything other than magical things, most of the time, and that should extend to other magical tools as well.
She turned and set the crystal ball in question back on her table, then returned her attention to the class in order to speak again. “Scrying, as so many of you have touched on,” whether or not they realized it, “is a method of using reflections, images, to gain insight into the past, present and future. of course, the reflections that one sees aren’t really there, but merely visions brought about through focus and reflected in the orb or whatever is used. Not only crystal balls can be used, in fact, for scrying. Does anyone want to suggest something else that could be used?” Eventually they would get to the actual activity she had planned, but touching on scrying was always in her plans. Everything was related when it came to Divination anyhow.
ooc: Moving things along . . . Same rules apply as usual. (and those who replied to the first question all get one point)
Selina visibly tensed at the topic of conversation in the classroom. It seemed like all of her peers suddenly were discussing the future and the ways to access it like it was some kind of game. What they all didn't realize was the danger in seeing the future. Although the concept, knowing what was coming next, had a certain appeal to it, the burden of carrying around the future on one's conscious must be exhausting. Selina would know.
As the conversation blossomed and Bishop made a few comments on those seeing the future Selina flinched. It was not exactly the topic of conversation that Selina enjoyed talking about. But that was the difficulty in attending this class. Sometimes she had to stretch out beyond her comfort zone of denial to the general public and fear of what she would see next to try to conquer her ability. But it was taking a long time.
She then slowly rose her hand and kept her eyes down at the desk. Any unneeded attention was not something Selina wanted, "Well ma'am, water reflections and mirrors are common practices of channeling the future in this practice." Selina would know first hand, for sometimes when she looked in the mirror she saw something from the future back.
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She turned and set the crystal ball in question back on her table, then returned her attention to the class in order to speak again. “Scrying, as so many of you have touched on,” whether or not they realized it, “is a method of using reflections, images, to gain insight into the past, present and future. of course, the reflections that one sees aren’t really there, but merely visions brought about through focus and reflected in the orb or whatever is used. Not only crystal balls can be used, in fact, for scrying. Does anyone want to suggest something else that could be used?” Eventually they would get to the actual activity she had planned, but touching on scrying was always in her plans. Everything was related when it came to Divination anyhow.[/COLOR]
Scrying? Uhh...
Helena tried to remember something from what she'd read some time ago, and raised her hand. "Professor? Can't we use stones, water, or even fire and smoke?" For scrying of course. But maybe she shouldn't have said that. Because she wanted to use a shiny crystal ball, not... water.
She turned and set the crystal ball in question back on her table, then returned her attention to the class in order to speak again. “Scrying, as so many of you have touched on,” whether or not they realized it, “is a method of using reflections, images, to gain insight into the past, present and future. of course, the reflections that one sees aren’t really there, but merely visions brought about through focus and reflected in the orb or whatever is used. Not only crystal balls can be used, in fact, for scrying. Does anyone want to suggest something else that could be used?” Eventually they would get to the actual activity she had planned, but touching on scrying was always in her plans. Everything was related when it came to Divination anyhow.[/COLOR]
ooc: Moving things along . . . Same rules apply as usual. (and those who replied to the first question all get one point)
Ooh, what could be used? Viola bit her lip and thought about it for a couple of minutes. Oh yeah! Mirrors! She raised her hand and said, "How about a mirror?" Since, scrying involves reflections, Viola thought a mirror could also be used.
She turned and set the crystal ball in question back on her table, then returned her attention to the class in order to speak again. “Scrying, as so many of you have touched on,” whether or not they realized it, “is a method of using reflections, images, to gain insight into the past, present and future. of course, the reflections that one sees aren’t really there, but merely visions brought about through focus and reflected in the orb or whatever is used. Not only crystal balls can be used, in fact, for scrying. Does anyone want to suggest something else that could be used?” Eventually they would get to the actual activity she had planned, but touching on scrying was always in her plans. Everything was related when it came to Divination anyhow.
ooc: Moving things along . . . Same rules apply as usual. (and those who replied to the first question all get one point)
"Tea cups, perhaps?" Janice answered her question after thinking for a long time.
Another grin crept onto Renée’s face as Eino of the previous singing offered his response to the discussion, though. That was getting more to the actual point of the lesson, whether he knew it or not. “More accurately, crystal balls are used for crystallomancy,” she pointed out, “ although that in fact is a branch of scrying. I would imagine most serious Diviners wouldn’t use their crystal balls as paperweights, however. Not the ones they specifically use, as that could dim the orb’s power.” At least, that was her opinion. One didn’t usually use their wand for anything other than magical things, most of the time, and that should extend to other magical tools as well.
She turned and set the crystal ball in question back on her table, then returned her attention to the class in order to speak again. “Scrying, as so many of you have touched on,” whether or not they realized it, “is a method of using reflections, images, to gain insight into the past, present and future. of course, the reflections that one sees aren’t really there, but merely visions brought about through focus and reflected in the orb or whatever is used. Not only crystal balls can be used, in fact, for scrying. Does anyone want to suggest something else that could be used?” Eventually they would get to the actual activity she had planned, but touching on scrying was always in her plans. Everything was related when it came to Divination anyhow.
ooc: Moving things along . . . Same rules apply as usual. (and those who replied to the first question all get one point)
Olivia raised her hand. "Couldn't you use anything with a reflective surface, professor? Mirrors, crystals, even a metal dish or a very still, clear body of water?"
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Slipping the deck of Tarot cards into her pocket for safekeeping, Renée looped around her table to stand in front of it as she sent the entire class another smile. “Okay, I think there’re enough of us here to start,” she began, waiting for the little conversations to die down as people started trying to focus. That would hopefully not take long, as she turned and picked up the crystal ball off the table behind her carefully before returning her attention to the class to hold it up so they could all see it better. “What is the first thing that comes to mind when you see this?,” she asked, before grinning a little as she looked at the glass herself. “I’m not going to bother asking if you even know what this is, but if that factors into your thoughts, I don’t mind.” She just had to hope the ideas weren’t too crazy, because she didn’t want to get distracted and drop the crystal ball. She didn’t have half as many of those as she did her Tarot cards, so replacements wouldn’t be as available.
Finally settled in a seat, Jamie looked at the mysterious ball. Yes, he had seen something like that before. "It's a ball which tells the future." He didn't know the scientific term. Did it tell the past, too? Probably. But for now, it was just a ball. A magical ball. And he would have to wait a bit more to see what else it could do.
Divination....... was he going to add this to his list of impossible classes? It was too soon to tell.
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She turned and set the crystal ball in question back on her table, then returned her attention to the class in order to speak again. “Scrying, as so many of you have touched on,” whether or not they realized it, “is a method of using reflections, images, to gain insight into the past, present and future. of course, the reflections that one sees aren’t really there, but merely visions brought about through focus and reflected in the orb or whatever is used. Not only crystal balls can be used, in fact, for scrying. Does anyone want to suggest something else that could be used?” Eventually they would get to the actual activity she had planned, but touching on scrying was always in her plans. Everything was related when it came to Divination anyhow.[/COLOR]
What on Earth was scrying?
Hearing the word 'reflection', the third years first thought was, "water..?" Because that reflected things that were near it. Jamie scratched his head, feeling like the class was moving too fast. Why did everyone else know what scrying meant, but he didn't? Yes, the Professor had mentioned the meaning slightly but he was still confused.
Definitely adding this class to that list, too.
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She turned and set the crystal ball in question back on her table, then returned her attention to the class in order to speak again. “Scrying, as so many of you have touched on,” whether or not they realized it, “is a method of using reflections, images, to gain insight into the past, present and future. of course, the reflections that one sees aren’t really there, but merely visions brought about through focus and reflected in the orb or whatever is used. Not only crystal balls can be used, in fact, for scrying. Does anyone want to suggest something else that could be used?” Eventually they would get to the actual activity she had planned, but touching on scrying was always in her plans. Everything was related when it came to Divination anyhow.
Simon smiled as he just listened to Professor Bishop speak, he didn't answer the first question because Scrying sounding like someone cutting grass and he knew that was wrong so he hadn't bothered talking he had just let Professor Bishop speak and listened whilst others gave their answers.
Know that this was something Simon thought he might be able to reply. "How about the Moon?" Simon had no idea if you could see dead people in the sky but it was worth a guess right, Simon knew if it wasn't for the fact Professor Bishop taught the lesson he'd probably not come since he was no good at it.
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The next arrival certainly didn’t seem to have been rushing, nor really concerned as to what they might be learning. One of those was a good thing, as there truly was no need to rush, but the other was troublesome. Renée gave the girl a friendly smile, tinged by the tiniest bit of concern, though. “Hello K-Lee,” she replied, having noted the Slytherin’s physical appearance. That was never good, and she silently tried to ask her if she was okay, with a look. She didn’t want to embarrass her by actually pointing anything out, if K-Lee was trying to keep things to herself. That didn’t stop her from hoping she was alright.
Slipping the deck of Tarot cards into her pocket for safekeeping, Renée looped around her table to stand in front of it as she sent the entire class another smile. “Okay, I think there’re enough of us here to start,” she began, waiting for the little conversations to die down as people started trying to focus. That would hopefully not take long, as she turned and picked up the crystal ball off the table behind her carefully before returning her attention to the class to hold it up so they could all see it better. “What is the first thing that comes to mind when you see this?,” she asked, before grinning a little as she looked at the glass herself. “I’m not going to bother asking if you even know what this is, but if that factors into your thoughts, I don’t mind.” She just had to hope the ideas weren’t too crazy, because she didn’t want to get distracted and drop the crystal ball. She didn’t have half as many of those as she did her Tarot cards, so replacements wouldn’t be as available.
K-Lee smiled at the professor, silently replying that she was fine. Yawning slightly she looked at the large ball thing. "When I see that, I think... really big paperweight..." Random, but the truth. She wasn't too knowledgable in the Divination area.
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She turned and set the crystal ball in question back on her table, then returned her attention to the class in order to speak again. “Scrying, as so many of you have touched on,” whether or not they realized it, “is a method of using reflections, images, to gain insight into the past, present and future. of course, the reflections that one sees aren’t really there, but merely visions brought about through focus and reflected in the orb or whatever is used. Not only crystal balls can be used, in fact, for scrying. Does anyone want to suggest something else that could be used?” Eventually they would get to the actual activity she had planned, but touching on scrying was always in her plans. Everything was related when it came to Divination anyhow.
What? K-Lee again was confused. She really should study her divination textbook a little more... So reflections are ued to see the past, present and future, though mainly crystal balls. That sort of made sense now... "You said reflection, so mirrors, glass, crystals, all those sorts of things that give off a reflection." Considering she didn't know much about divination, her answer sounded very reasonable and smart.
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