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itsjustjesse 05-18-2011 03:14 AM

SPOILER!!: Simon & Caroline
Quote:

Originally Posted by Macavity (Post 10343873)
"We can work together as a group. Would make sense the way the tables were laid out and Zara already volunteered to take notes," Simon replied glancing momentarily at the younger girl in question. His attention drawn back to Kyle as he heard her laughter.

"Its...alright. No harm done," he assured her even though deep down what had happened had raised questions for him. The Gryffindor pushed it aside to try and concentrate on actual classwork. "How about the fact that whatever medium is used that it has to be clear to avoid distraction or an error in reading because you think something is there in the scrying when its not, its on the surface being used..." His attention now on the group as a whole as he spoke and waited for the rest of the discussion.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saraie (Post 10343907)
Caroline smiled at the girls named Zara "Nice to meet you, Zara."

She was still in shock over what Hannah had said. What was she thinking? Was she crazy? You don't just go around to guys and girls who are friends and start assumming things. Maybe Hannah could read minds. She covered her ears. So she couldn't here what she was thinking. Realizing how crazy she must have looked she put her hands down. She looked from Kyle to Simon. Maybe groups would be a good idea. "Groups. That sounds like a good idea. "



She was glad he didn't push the subject about Hannah right now - anyways, it was class time and no one wanted to lose house points now did they? She didn't know he had any questions about what her cousin had said but - that wasn't like she didn't expect him to not have questions. They'd have to talk about it later.

"Groups it is then" she smiled over to Caroline, it was going to be a lot easier working with both her, and Simon mainly because of the awkward moment that had happened not-so-long before.

"And thanks for taking notes Zara," Kyle smiled, she seemed like a really nice girl. "Mmm, yeah good point they even have to have the crystal itself be free of any imperfections and most of the time people use quartz and not say rose quartz for crystalomancy" she nodded good point good point. "Um - one thing I read about is that you are supposed to have a dark velvet or simply dark cloth under the crystal and dim lighting to make it less of a distracting atmosphere and so you see what your minds eye is telling you to see"

Samira Malfoy Potter 05-18-2011 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aaetha (Post 10344284)
There! At least someone agreed with Ariana! Nodding at Samira's point, she tried to steer the conversation back to what they were supposed to be talking about by just nodding and not commenting.



"Right, and maybe saphires or emeralds? And also, do you think the visions would be specific to whoever owns or wears the jewelry?" Ariana was just fishing around here, she didn't really know about that, it was just an idea.

Samira's eyes snapped to Ariana. "That's a really good point!" She had a sudden epiphany. Working with smart Ravenclaws had it's perks. "Maybe the jewelry could even have some history. I mean, depending on who has worn it previously, it could have a story." That made sense, right? "Maybe if the person did have a vision, it would be like a premonition, or flashback or something."

She then turned to Nika. "We're not ganging up on you, Pink! Can we please just stay logical?" Flying pigs? Really? Let's stay on topic please!

ArianaBlack 05-18-2011 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samira Malfoy Potter (Post 10344307)
Samira's eyes snapped to Ariana. "That's a really good point!" She had a sudden epiphany. Working with smart Ravenclaws had it's perks. "Maybe the jewelry could even have some history. I mean, depending on who has worn it previously, it could have a story." That made sense, right? "Maybe if the person did have a vision, it would be like a premonition, or flashback or something."

She then turned to Nika. "We're not ganging up on you, Pink! Can we please just stay logical?" Flying pigs? Really? Let's stay on topic please!

Hmph. Flying pigs are perfectly logical. Had she not been listening to Nika at all? She just gave a perfectly good explanation about them living on the other side of the moon on a magical planet. And they call muggles ignorant.

aaetha 05-18-2011 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArianaBlack (Post 10344289)
"You eat your fortunes." Nika said looking rather appalled. Ew! Those things are paper. "I don't know what chinese place you go to but where I go the paper isn't edible." She said with a chuckle.

"No, Nika, I meant I eat the cookies because they're yummy! Not the paper!" Trust Nika to come up with something totally random and irrellevant.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArianaBlack (Post 10344289)
"But-but-but they could be real! How would you know! That's like saying... erm... like saying... erm... that pigs can't fly! Because maybe on some magic planet on the other side of the moon they really can! But how would you know because you can't even get there because your rocketship won't ever be good enough." Didn't make much sense but it was the most she could come up with at the spur of the moment. Nika didn't want to be right, she just didn't want to be wrong.

This off-topic discussion was just going to go on, wasn't it? Ariana jotted something down really quickly about it. "But, we have proof the fortune tellers are false. We don't have proof that pigs don't fly. Here, let me be more specific. 'Muggle fortune tellers, with no magic or magical instruments, on Earth, do not really predict the future.' Got it?" She was getting a little tiny bit exasperated. Really, Nika? Really?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArianaBlack (Post 10344289)
Nika shot her an angry look. "HEY! No ganging up!" Not fair, not fair.

"We're not ganging up, we're just stating our opinions." Yup, it had nothing to do with their friendship, they'd just have to agree to disagree!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samira Malfoy Potter (Post 10344307)
Samira's eyes snapped to Ariana. "That's a really good point!" She had a sudden epiphany. Working with smart Ravenclaws had it's perks. "Maybe the jewelry could even have some history. I mean, depending on who has worn it previously, it could have a story." That made sense, right? "Maybe if the person did have a vision, it would be like a premonition, or flashback or something."

"Yeah! Like old family heirlooms, you could see both the past and the future... and maybe the past repeating itself in the future? You know, going back to the whole 'history repeats itself' theory?" Woot! This was going well!

SPOILER!!: List

Ariana Hartley, Second Year Ravenclaw
Nika Adler, Second Year Gryffindor
Samira Spinks, Second Year Slytherin
Hannah _________, Third Year Ravenclaw

The Rainbow Divination Bunnies

Is It Possible to See Images That Predict Things In A Mirror? Jewelry and Tinfoil?

Yes
-Reflective
-Divination works everywhere
-Jewelry is worn next to the skin
-Jewelry must be reflective
-Specific to person who owns/wears
-Past & Future?
-Family heirlooms?

No
-No magical properties
-Divination is purely magical


--Muggle fortune tellers- real or fake?

nogoodforyou 05-18-2011 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vijaya (Post 10343365)
Lucy looked around to pair up with some one, she turned to her right and saw Helena, Lucy knew her, they always met in Divination class. Lucy went close to her and said "Hey Helena, how're you? can i join you too" saying that she grabbed a seat next to her.

She thought a little on Professors and said "hmm, i think we could use any smooth surface like a bowl of liquid or a pond or a crystal too, to do scrying, what do you think?" she asked Helena giving a sweet smile. She didn't actually knew why was she smiling but she just smiled at her.

Helena, who was still discussing... whatever she was, with Feenella, suddenly heard a voice, talking to her. She looked up and found Lucy, her first ever Divination partner. Hehe. "Hey. Sure you can," she said, smiling, as Lucy was already sitting down next to her.

"Those would work too," she said thoughtfully. "But I don't think the surface has to be smooth. Just think about crystall balls." Those shiny things that she was talking about with Feenella. Aaaand not only crystal balls. It could be a really shiny stone as well, right?

ArianaBlack 05-18-2011 03:36 AM

Rainbow Divination Bunnies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aaetha (Post 10344315)
"No, Nika, I meant I eat the cookies because they're yummy! Not the paper!" Trust Nika to come up with something totally random and irrellevant.

"Oh. Yeah I eat the cookies too." she stated. "All cookies are YUMMY!" Nom Nom NOM.

[WUOTE]
This off-topic discussion was just going to go on, wasn't it? Ariana jotted something down really quickly about it. "But, we have proof the fortune tellers are false. We don't have proof that pigs don't fly. Here, let me be more specific. 'Muggle fortune tellers, with no magic or magical instruments, on Earth, do not really predict the future.' Got it?" She was getting a little tiny bit exasperated. Really, Nika? Really?

"We're not ganging up, we're just stating our opinions." Yup, it had nothing to do with their friendship, they'd just have to agree to disagree![/QUOTE]

"Okay well I guess if you put it that way..." As long as she kept the bit about the no magic or magical instruments, on earth it should be fine.

Quote:

"Yeah! Like old family heirlooms, you could see both the past and the future... and maybe the past repeating itself in the future? You know, going back to the whole 'history repeats itself' theory?" Woot! This was going well!

SPOILER!!: List

Ariana Hartley, Second Year Ravenclaw
Nika Adler, Second Year Gryffindor
Samira Spinks, Second Year Slytherin
Hannah _________, Third Year Ravenclaw

The Rainbow Divination Bunnies

Is It Possible to See Images That Predict Things In A Mirror? Jewelry and Tinfoil?

Yes
-Reflective
-Divination works everywhere
-Jewelry is worn next to the skin
-Jewelry must be reflective
-Specific to person who owns/wears
-Past & Future?
-Family heirlooms?

No
-No magical properties
-Divination is purely magical


--Muggle fortune tellers- real or fake?

"Oh well going back to the tin foil I have something we could put under the no pile!" She said excitedly. After that little discussion she was ready to contribute again.

"Well if the foil is a crumpled up you can't see anything in it so it would be a no as far as the scrying thing." She beamed at her answer. "And for a yes, well it's reflective and it could reflect the food that your putting it on so maybe in the food you can see a fortune or something?"

Samira Malfoy Potter 05-18-2011 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aaetha (Post 10344315)
[b]
"Yeah! Like old family heirlooms, you could see both the past and the future... and maybe the past repeating itself in the future? You know, going back to the whole 'history repeats itself' theory?" Woot! This was going well!

SPOILER!!: List

Ariana Hartley, Second Year Ravenclaw
Nika Adler, Second Year Gryffindor
Samira Spinks, Second Year Slytherin
Hannah _________, Third Year Ravenclaw

The Rainbow Divination Bunnies

Is It Possible to See Images That Predict Things In A Mirror? Jewelry and Tinfoil?

Yes
-Reflective
-Divination works everywhere
-Jewelry is worn next to the skin
-Jewelry must be reflective
-Specific to person who owns/wears
-Past & Future?
-Family heirlooms?

No
-No magical properties
-Divination is purely magical


--Muggle fortune tellers- real or fake?

Samira was starting to get excited. "That's exactly what I was thinking!" She mused about the thought for a moment. "But how would you actually receive the vision? I mean, something would have to trigger it right? I don't think people just have random visions out of no where when wearing jewelry." An interesting thought, but no.

Glancing over at the notes, Samira shook her head. "Definitely fake. If the fortune tellers were real, they would be magical, and if they were magical they would be in the Wizarding world, not Muggle streets." So there.

ArianaBlack 05-18-2011 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samira Malfoy Potter (Post 10344342)
Samira was starting to get excited. "That's exactly what I was thinking!" She mused about the thought for a moment. "But how would you actually receive the vision? I mean, something would have to trigger it right? I don't think people just have random visions out of no where when wearing jewelry." An interesting thought, but no.

Glancing over at the notes, Samira shook her head. "Definitely fake. If the fortune tellers were real, they would be magical, and if they were magical they would be in the Wizarding world, not Muggle streets." So there.

"Well maybe they're just wizards in disguise?" She suggested. But she was done with this. If they weren't going believe her they never would.

aaetha 05-18-2011 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArianaBlack (Post 10344339)
"Okay well I guess if you put it that way..." As long as she kept the bit about the no magic or magical instruments, on earth it should be fine.

"Good!" Now that was settled, Ariana and the rest could get back to things that were actually pertinent to the discussion!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samira Malfoy Potter (Post 10344342)
Samira was starting to get excited. "That's exactly what I was thinking!" She mused about the thought for a moment. "But how would you actually receive the vision? I mean, something would have to trigger it right? I don't think people just have random visions out of no where when wearing jewelry." An interesting thought, but no.

"Well, maybe if you were in a place especially... um, clairvoyant? Or..." Ariana tried to think of other times you could get a vision.
"Maybe if you go to the place where the past or future thing occurred or will occur?" Wow, past and future stuff really did account for some confusing grammar...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samira Malfoy Potter (Post 10344342)
Glancing over at the notes, Samira shook her head. "Definitely fake. If the fortune tellers were real, they would be magical, and if they were magical they would be in the Wizarding world, not Muggle streets." So there.

"Kay!" Since Samira was just voicing what Ariana thought anyway, she was glad to cross out 'real'.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArianaBlack (Post 10344339)
"Oh well going back to the tin foil I have something we could put under the no pile!" She said excitedly. After that little discussion she was ready to contribute again.

"Well if the foil is a crumpled up you can't see anything in it so it would be a no as far as the scrying thing." She beamed at her answer. "And for a yes, well it's reflective and it could reflect the food that your putting it on so maybe in the food you can see a fortune or something?"

"Okay, I'm a little confused at the fortune in the food thing, but good point that when foil's crumpled you can't see..." Ariana said, looking down at her parchment as she wrote everything down in her neat cursive, careful not to let her hand smudge the ink.

SPOILER!!: List

Ariana Hartley, Second Year Ravenclaw
Nika Adler, Second Year Gryffindor
Samira Spinks, Second Year Slytherin
Hannah _________, Third Year Ravenclaw

The Rainbow Divination Bunnies

Is It Possible to See Images That Predict Things In A Mirror? Jewelry and Tinfoil?

Yes
-Reflective
-Divination works everywhere
-Jewelry is worn next to the skin
-Jewelry must be reflective
-Specific to person who owns/wears
-Past & Future?
-Family heirlooms?
-Tinfoil could reflect food, fortune in food- ?????????
-What triggers visions?

No
-No magical properties
-Divination is purely magical
-Crumpled tinfoil isn’t reflective

--Muggle fortune tellers- real or fake

Samira Malfoy Potter 05-18-2011 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aaetha (Post 10344362)
[b]"Good!"
"Well, maybe if you were in a place especially... um, clairvoyant? Or..." Ariana tried to think of other times you could get a vision.
"Maybe if you go to the place where the past or future thing occurred or will occur?" Wow, past and future stuff really did account for some confusing grammar...

SPOILER!!: List

Ariana Hartley, Second Year Ravenclaw
Nika Adler, Second Year Gryffindor
Samira Spinks, Second Year Slytherin
Hannah _________, Third Year Ravenclaw

The Rainbow Divination Bunnies

Is It Possible to See Images That Predict Things In A Mirror? Jewelry and Tinfoil?

Yes
-Reflective
-Divination works everywhere
-Jewelry is worn next to the skin
-Jewelry must be reflective
-Specific to person who owns/wears
-Past & Future?
-Family heirlooms?
-Tinfoil could reflect food, fortune in food- ?????????
-What triggers visions?

No
-No magical properties
-Divination is purely magical
-Crumpled tinfoil isn’t reflective

--Muggle fortune tellers- real or fake

Samira tapped her chin thoughtfully. "That's a really good point. Like, if an event took place while someone was wearing an article of jewelry...then if another person wearing the same jewelry were to walk in the same place...they would get a vision." That actually made sense. Taking another look at the notes, Samira looked amused. "Food could work, too. Maybe if you're eating a certain food that someone else you have a connection to ate during an important event...or, no? Does that sound silly to you?" The Slytherin was starting to confuse herself.

ArianaBlack 05-18-2011 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aaetha (Post 10344362)
"Good!" Now that was settled, Ariana and the rest could get back to things that were actually pertinent to the discussion!



"Well, maybe if you were in a place especially... um, clairvoyant? Or..." Ariana tried to think of other times you could get a vision.
"Maybe if you go to the place where the past or future thing occurred or will occur?" Wow, past and future stuff really did account for some confusing grammar...



"Kay!" Since Samira was just voicing what Ariana thought anyway, she was glad to cross out 'real'.



"Okay, I'm a little confused at the fortune in the food thing, but good point that when foil's crumpled you can't see..." Ariana said, looking down at her parchment as she wrote everything down in her neat cursive, careful not to let her hand smudge the ink.

SPOILER!!: List

Ariana Hartley, Second Year Ravenclaw
Nika Adler, Second Year Gryffindor
Samira Spinks, Second Year Slytherin
Hannah _________, Third Year Ravenclaw

The Rainbow Divination Bunnies

Is It Possible to See Images That Predict Things In A Mirror? Jewelry and Tinfoil?

Yes
-Reflective
-Divination works everywhere
-Jewelry is worn next to the skin
-Jewelry must be reflective
-Specific to person who owns/wears
-Past & Future?
-Family heirlooms?
-Tinfoil could reflect food, fortune in food- ?????????
-What triggers visions?

No
-No magical properties
-Divination is purely magical
-Crumpled tinfoil isn’t reflective

--Muggle fortune tellers- real or fake

Nika still wasn't fully satisfied with the argument "developed discussion", but they were in class so....

Hmph. Could be real.

"Oh and in the tin foil you could erm... see maybe images reflecting from behind you and you can probably interpret those images kinda like you would with the tea leaves?" Tea leaves. Now Nika wants tea.

Samira Malfoy Potter 05-18-2011 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArianaBlack (Post 10344374)
Nika still wasn't fully satisfied with the argument "developed discussion", but they were in class so....

Hmph. Could be real.

"Oh and in the tin foil you could erm... see maybe images reflecting from behind you and you can probably interpret those images kinda like you would with the tea leaves?" Tea leaves. Now Nika wants tea.

Hm..."I don't think that's how it works." Samira said gently. "Just seeing someone reflecting behind you is more physical. I think what we're talking about is more...spiritual, or internally/mentally. And I don't think tes leaves really have anything to do with it."

Samira was still confused about the food thing, so she looked at Ariana for assistance or possible guidance.

aaetha 05-18-2011 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArianaBlack (Post 10344374)
Nika still wasn't fully satisfied with the argument "developed discussion", but they were in class so....

Hmph. Could be real.

"Oh and in the tin foil you could erm... see maybe images reflecting from behind you and you can probably interpret those images kinda like you would with the tea leaves?" Tea leaves. Now Nika wants tea.

"Oh, I see!" Ariana crossed out all her question marks and added what Nika just said. She smiled brightly at her to show that just because her harebrained ideas on muggle fortune tellers were rejected, didn't mean Ariana didn't want to hear her other ideas!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samira Malfoy Potter (Post 10344372)
Samira tapped her chin thoughtfully. "That's a really good point. Like, if an event took place while someone was wearing an article of jewelry...then if another person wearing the same jewelry were to walk in the same place...they would get a vision." That actually made sense. Taking another look at the notes, Samira looked amused. "Food could work, too. Maybe if you're eating a certain food that someone else you have a connection to ate during an important event...or, no? Does that sound silly to you?" The Slytherin was starting to confuse herself.

"Exactly what I was thinking!" Ariana grinned, excited. "But do you think they'd have to be looking at the jewelry and see a reflection, or would they just See stuff?" Food... that was picking up on what Nika'd said too, wasn't it?
"Yeah, that could be true too..." she said vaguely, writing down her ideas.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samira Malfoy Potter (Post 10344382)
Hm..."I don't think that's how it works." Samira said gently. "Just seeing someone reflecting behind you is more physical. I think what we're talking about is more...spiritual, or internally/mentally. And I don't think tes leaves really have anything to do with it."

Samira was still confused about the food thing, so she looked at Ariana for assistance or possible guidance.

Ariana frowned as she crossed something off. "You have a point there... but I think Nika has a point in there somewhere too... I'm kinda confused."

SPOILER!!: List

Ariana Hartley, Second Year Ravenclaw
Nika Adler, Second Year Gryffindor
Samira Spinks, Second Year Slytherin
Hannah _________, Third Year Ravenclaw

The Rainbow Divination Bunnies

Is It Possible to See Images That Predict Things In A Mirror? Jewelry and Tinfoil?

Yes
-Reflective
-Divination works everywhere
-Jewelry is worn next to the skin
-Jewelry must be reflective
-Specific to person who owns/wears
-Past & Future?
-Family heirlooms?
-Tinfoil could reflect food, fortune in food- similar to tea leaves
-In a place where something happened before/will happen, get vision

No
-No magical properties
-Divination is purely magical
-Crumpled tinfoil isn’t reflective

--Muggle fortune tellers- real or fake

Samira Malfoy Potter 05-18-2011 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aaetha (Post 10344383)
"Exactly what I was thinking!" Ariana grinned, excited. "But do you think they'd have to be looking at the jewelry and see a reflection, or would they just See stuff?" Food... that was picking up on what Nika'd said too, wasn't it?
"Yeah, that could be true too..." she said vaguely, writing down her ideas.

SPOILER!!: List

Ariana Hartley, Second Year Ravenclaw
Nika Adler, Second Year Gryffindor
Samira Spinks, Second Year Slytherin
Hannah _________, Third Year Ravenclaw

The Rainbow Divination Bunnies

Is It Possible to See Images That Predict Things In A Mirror? Jewelry and Tinfoil?

Yes
-Reflective
-Divination works everywhere
-Jewelry is worn next to the skin
-Jewelry must be reflective
-Specific to person who owns/wears
-Past & Future?
-Family heirlooms?
-Tinfoil could reflect food, fortune in food- similar to tea leaves
-In a place where something happened before/will happen, get vision

No
-No magical properties
-Divination is purely magical
-Crumpled tinfoil isn’t reflective

--Muggle fortune tellers- real or fake

"I don't think you'd have to be looking at the jewelry, per say...although I think it would work better that way. I think-and this is just my opinion-I think that the jewelry has to at least be having skin to skin contact for it to work."

ArianaBlack 05-18-2011 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aaetha (Post 10344383)
"Oh, I see!" Ariana crossed out all her question marks and added what Nika just said. She smiled brightly at her to show that just because her harebrained ideas on muggle fortune tellers were rejected, didn't mean Ariana didn't want to hear her other ideas!



"Exactly what I was thinking!" Ariana grinned, excited. "But do you think they'd have to be looking at the jewelry and see a reflection, or would they just See stuff?" Food... that was picking up on what Nika'd said too, wasn't it?
"Yeah, that could be true too..." she said vaguely, writing down her ideas.



Ariana frowned as she crossed something off. "You have a point there... but I think Nika has a point in there somewhere too... I'm kinda confused."

SPOILER!!: List

Ariana Hartley, Second Year Ravenclaw
Nika Adler, Second Year Gryffindor
Samira Spinks, Second Year Slytherin
Hannah _________, Third Year Ravenclaw

The Rainbow Divination Bunnies

Is It Possible to See Images That Predict Things In A Mirror? Jewelry and Tinfoil?

Yes
-Reflective
-Divination works everywhere
-Jewelry is worn next to the skin
-Jewelry must be reflective
-Specific to person who owns/wears
-Past & Future?
-Family heirlooms?
-Tinfoil could reflect food, fortune in food- similar to tea leaves
-In a place where something happened before/will happen, get vision

No
-No magical properties
-Divination is purely magical
-Crumpled tinfoil isn’t reflective

--Muggle fortune tellers- real or fake

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samira Malfoy Potter (Post 10344382)
Hm..."I don't think that's how it works." Samira said gently. "Just seeing someone reflecting behind you is more physical. I think what we're talking about is more...spiritual, or internally/mentally. And I don't think tes leaves really have anything to do with it."

Samira was still confused about the food thing, so she looked at Ariana for assistance or possible guidance.

"Well maybe the images you see can give you visions and those visions can help you interpret what you saw when you saw it?" Huh? WHAA? Nika had know idea what she just said... Divination is a confoosing subject. But that's why Nika liked it so much.

"Oh okay! Maybe, maybe the tin foil can be so shiny that it makes it too hard to see images in? That could be a no?"

aaetha 05-18-2011 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samira Malfoy Potter (Post 10344387)
"I don't think you'd have to be looking at the jewelry, per se...although I think it would work better that way. I think-and this is just my opinion-I think that the jewelry has to at least be having skin to skin contact for it to work."

"Mmhmm... yeah, that sounds right! Especially if you're wearing it over the same part of your body as the person was/will be- like, you're wearing a necklace as a necklace, not as a doubled-up bracelet... does that make sense?" Sounded to Ariana like she was rambling... so she stopped, and just jotted down what Samira had said.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArianaBlack (Post 10344395)
"Well maybe the images you see can give you visions and those visions can help you interpret what you saw when you saw it?" Huh? WHAA? Nika had know idea what she just said... Divination is a confoosing subject. But that's why Nika liked it so much.

"Oh okay! Maybe, maybe the tin foil can be so shiny that it makes it too hard to see images in? That could be a no?"

"Um... I think I lost track of that somewhere..." What exactly had Nika said again? Thaaat was confusing. Right in the middle of a brainstorm, too!

"Okay!" was all she said to the too shiny bit. Honesly, Ariana was starting to feel sorry for Nika, so put that down even though it was unlikely for tinfoil to be tooooooo shiny.

SPOILER!!: List

Ariana Hartley, Second Year Ravenclaw
Nika Adler, Second Year Gryffindor
Samira Spinks, Second Year Slytherin
Hannah _________, Third Year Ravenclaw

The Rainbow Divination Bunnies

Is It Possible to See Images That Predict Things In A Mirror? Jewelry and Tinfoil?

Yes
-Reflective
-Divination works everywhere
-Jewelry is worn next to the skin
-Jewelry must be reflective
-Specific to person who owns/wears
-Past & Future?
-Family heirlooms?
-Tinfoil could reflect food, fortune in food- similar to tea leaves
-In a place where something happened before/will happen, get vision
-Don’t have to be looking, just be touching skin

No
-No magical properties
-Divination is purely magical
-Crumpled tinfoil isn’t reflective
-Could be too shiny, so you can’t see

--Muggle fortune tellers- real or fake

ArianaBlack 05-18-2011 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aaetha (Post 10344408)
"Mmhmm... yeah, that sounds right! Especially if you're wearing it over the same part of your body as the person was/will be- like, you're wearing a necklace as a necklace, not as a doubled-up bracelet... does that make sense?" Sounded to Ariana like she was rambling... so she stopped, and just jotted down what Samira had said.



"Um... I think I lost track of that somewhere..." What exactly had Nika said again? Thaaat was confusing. Right in the middle of a brainstorm, too!

"Okay!" was all she said to the too shiny bit. Honesly, Ariana was starting to feel sorry for Nika, so put that down even though it was unlikely for tinfoil to be tooooooo shiny.

SPOILER!!: List

Ariana Hartley, Second Year Ravenclaw
Nika Adler, Second Year Gryffindor
Samira Spinks, Second Year Slytherin
Hannah _________, Third Year Ravenclaw

The Rainbow Divination Bunnies

Is It Possible to See Images That Predict Things In A Mirror? Jewelry and Tinfoil?

Yes
-Reflective
-Divination works everywhere
-Jewelry is worn next to the skin
-Jewelry must be reflective
-Specific to person who owns/wears
-Past & Future?
-Family heirlooms?
-Tinfoil could reflect food, fortune in food- similar to tea leaves
-In a place where something happened before/will happen, get vision
-Don’t have to be looking, just be touching skin

No
-No magical properties
-Divination is purely magical
-Crumpled tinfoil isn’t reflective
-Could be too shiny, so you can’t see

--Muggle fortune tellers- real or fake

"Can't it depend on what brand of tin foil you use?" She asked. Nika was starting to run out of ideas. Maybe it would be better to let the ravenclaw handle this. BUT NO! Nika shall not give up. Determination.

aaetha 05-18-2011 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArianaBlack (Post 10344411)
"Can't it depend on what brand of tin foil you use?" She asked. Nika was starting to run out of ideas. Maybe it would be better to let the Ravenclaw handle this. BUT NO! Nika shall not give up. Determination.

Silence. Silence. Awkward silence. Ariana broke it. With awkward speech.

"I guess... maybe we should move on to some of the less physical things and some of the more spiritual ones?" Just a thought, y'know?

Samira Malfoy Potter 05-18-2011 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aaetha (Post 10344413)
Silence. Silence. Awkward silence. Ariana broke it. With awkward speech.

"I guess... maybe we should move on to some of the less physical things and some of the more spiritual ones?" Just a thought, y'know?

Er...

"Ok, let me get this straight. Tin foil can be a form of divination, but we're not sure how. Nika, I get what you meant." She turned to Ariana to elaborate, since it was a bit confuzzling. "I think what she meant was if you see a reflection of someone or something in the tin foil, it could trigger a memory or vision." She looked at Nika. "That is what you meant, right?"

Samira was agreeing with Ariana a lot today. It's like they shared the same thoughts. Weeeiirddd. "Ariana's right. Moving on..."

Lady of Light 05-18-2011 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trish (Post 10343144)


Penny noted the new girl.."sure, pull up a seat..I'm Penny, this is Rose, Becca, Niss and Amy.."

Viola smiled at all of them and said, "Hi. I'm Viola." She sat down and turned towards Penny and asked, "So, whats going on?"

aaetha 05-18-2011 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samira Malfoy Potter (Post 10344443)
Er...

"Ok, let me get this straight. Tin foil can be a form of divination, but we're not sure how. Nika, I get what you meant." She turned to Ariana to elaborate, since it was a bit confuzzling. "I think what she meant was if you see a reflection of someone or something in the tin foil, it could trigger a memory or vision." She looked at Nika. "That is what you meant, right?"

Samira was agreeing with Ariana a lot today. It's like they shared the same thoughts. Weeeiirddd. "Ariana's right. Moving on..."

"Right..." It seemed like Samira was on the same thought wave as Ariana. She'd read a book about that once.. Had she read a book about everything once? No, not quite, but most things, apparently.

"So, with both jewelry and tinfoil, why do you think these visions happen? Like, would it only be to a true Seer, or could anyone have a vision? Is it random people who are picked to have visions, or because of their place in life?" Well, someone had to ask the deep, theoretical questions, didn't they?

Ariana also made sure her notes were fully updated.

SPOILER!!: List

Ariana Hartley, Second Year Ravenclaw
Nika Adler, Second Year Gryffindor
Samira Spinks, Second Year Slytherin
Hannah _________, Third Year Ravenclaw

The Rainbow Divination Bunnies

Is It Possible to See Images That Predict Things In A Mirror? Jewelry and Tinfoil?

Yes
-Reflective
-Divination works everywhere
-Jewelry is worn next to the skin
-Jewelry must be reflective
-Specific to person who owns/wears
-Past & Future?
-Family heirlooms?
-Tinfoil could reflect food, fortune in food- similar to tea leaves
-In a place where something happened before/will happen, get vision
-Don’t have to be looking, just be touching skin

No
-No magical properties
-Divination is purely magical
-Crumpled tinfoil isn’t reflective
-Could be too shiny, so you can’t see

--Muggle fortune tellers- real or fake

ArianaBlack 05-18-2011 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aaetha (Post 10344457)
"Right..." It seemed like Samira was on the same thought wave as Ariana. She'd read a book about that once.. Had she read a book about everything once? No, not quite, but most things, apparently.

"So, with both jewelry and tinfoil, why do you think these visions happen? Like, would it only be to a true Seer, or could anyone have a vision? Is it random people who are picked to have visions, or because of their place in life?" Well, someone had to ask the deep, theoretical questions, didn't they?

Ariana also made sure her notes were fully updated.

SPOILER!!: List

Ariana Hartley, Second Year Ravenclaw
Nika Adler, Second Year Gryffindor
Samira Spinks, Second Year Slytherin
Hannah _________, Third Year Ravenclaw

The Rainbow Divination Bunnies

Is It Possible to See Images That Predict Things In A Mirror? Jewelry and Tinfoil?

Yes
-Reflective
-Divination works everywhere
-Jewelry is worn next to the skin
-Jewelry must be reflective
-Specific to person who owns/wears
-Past & Future?
-Family heirlooms?
-Tinfoil could reflect food, fortune in food- similar to tea leaves
-In a place where something happened before/will happen, get vision
-Don’t have to be looking, just be touching skin

No
-No magical properties
-Divination is purely magical
-Crumpled tinfoil isn’t reflective
-Could be too shiny, so you can’t see

--Muggle fortune tellers- real or fake

"Well I think maybe the images seen will act as a sort of trigger or something like Samira mentioned." She said nodding her head. "If it's not like that and it's just that you get a random vision then what's the point of the reflective object? You know what I mean?" Did anyone know what she meant?

TwistedHearts 05-18-2011 04:58 AM

Text Cut: Kurumi
Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetpinkpixie (Post 10344044)
"You're turn to play the Lion Scribe?" Kurumi winked nodding to the first year. It was only fair that she passed the reins on every once in a while.


Zara smiled at Kurumi, "Yup!" Zara said, as she scribbled down notes.
Text Cut: Tayla
Quote:

Originally Posted by affy7ann (Post 10344247)
"I'm not sure really," Tayla smiled awkwardly. "Seems like my head's going around in circles."[/B]


Zara nodded in response. "I'm sure you can keep up." She encouraged, gave Tayla a thumbs up and turned back to her group.
Text Cut: Groupies//Sorry late reply; Kyle, Simon, Caroline
Quote:

Originally Posted by McFeisty (Post 10343800)
Kyle looked over around her table, and nervously looked around. She was, and truly felt a little bit 'out of place' right now. It wasn't that she didn't want to talk with people but it was, she was still quite shocked by what her own cousin had said...that was - was inexcusable the only way she could have known that would have been reading her diary, or - or eavesdropping.

Clearing her throat, she spoke softly. "Soooo" the elongated and awkward 'so' was so extremely awkward. Gulp. "Um, do any of you guys want to partner up or do you want to - er - talk as a group?" She asked eyes wide with shock still.

Glancing over to Simon she suddenly broke out into a fit of awkward laughter. "Sorry about earlier - I-I don't know where she got that from" she tried to be less awkward but that was hard when people assumed you were dating someone you just so happened to think was nice - and quite possibly liked.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macavity (Post 10343873)
"We can work together as a group. Would make sense the way the tables were laid out and Zara already volunteered to take notes," Simon replied glancing momentarily at the younger girl in question. His attention drawn back to Kyle as he heard her laughter.

"Its...alright. No harm done," he assured her even though deep down what had happened had raised questions for him. The Gryffindor pushed it aside to try and concentrate on actual classwork. "How about the fact that whatever medium is used that it has to be clear to avoid distraction or an error in reading because you think something is there in the scrying when its not, its on the surface being used..." His attention now on the group as a whole as he spoke and waited for the rest of the discussion.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saraie (Post 10343907)
Caroline smiled at the girls named Zara "Nice to meet you, Zara."

She was still in shock over what Hannah had said. What was she thinking? Was she crazy? You don't just go around to guys and girls who are friends and start assumming things. Maybe Hannah could read minds. She covered her ears. So she couldn't here what she was thinking. Realizing how crazy she must have looked she put her hands down. She looked from Kyle to Simon. Maybe groups would be a good idea. "Groups. That sounds like a good idea. "

Quote:

Originally Posted by McFeisty (Post 10344294)
She was glad he didn't push the subject about Hannah right now - anyways, it was class time and no one wanted to lose house points now did they? She didn't know he had any questions about what her cousin had said but - that wasn't like she didn't expect him to not have questions. They'd have to talk about it later.

"Groups it is then" she smiled over to Caroline, it was going to be a lot easier working with both her, and Simon mainly because of the awkward moment that had happened not-so-long before.

"And thanks for taking notes Zara," Kyle smiled, she seemed like a really nice girl. "Mmm, yeah good point they even have to have the crystal itself be free of any imperfections and most of the time people use quartz and not say rose quartz for crystalomancy" she nodded good point good point. "Um - one thing I read about is that you are supposed to have a dark velvet or simply dark cloth under the crystal and dim lighting to make it less of a distracting atmosphere and so you see what your minds eye is telling you to see"


Zara nodded at Simon, and wrote down what he said.

Smiling at Caroline, who spoke to her the first time, Zara replied, "Nice to meet you too, Caroline," with a smile.

"It's not really a problem, Kyle," the little Gryffindor smiled and scribbled some more notes.

Then Zara had a question she had in mind that was bothering her. Lately, she's been having strange dreams, and now since divination talked about past, present, and future, maybe it could possibly interpret dreams somehow? She didn't know, but she could ask, right? "Erm, is is possible to use scrying into interpreting dreams?"

Text Cut: Zara's Parchment; Notes at the Bottom
Danielle Zara Griffiths
First Year – Gryffindor
Lesson One - Reflection

Crystal Balls Purposes
~ can be used in scrying
~ gives the diviner images of the future
~ used by Professor Trelawney as weapons (Battle of Hogwarts)
~ made from beryllium aluminum silicate (beryl)
~ new ones made of rock crystal or quartz
~ used in crystallomancy (branch of scrying)

Scrying ~ method of using reflections and images to have insight to past, present, future

Possible Stuff Used in Scrying
~ mirrors
~ water (bowl of water; glass of water; etc)
~ ink, blood, other dark liquids
~ anything w/ reflective surface
~ fire? smoke?
~ other crystals
~ metal spoon
~ clouds

Pyromancy ~ form of scrying using flames and smoke

Discussion
~ whatever medium used must be clear to avoid distraction and error in reading
~ have the crystal be free of imperfections
~ often, people use quartz not rose quartz for crystallomancy
~ have dark velvet/any dark cloth under the crystal & dim lighting (for a less distracting atmosphere=to see what mind’s eye is showing you)


Samira Malfoy Potter 05-18-2011 04:58 AM

Quote:

"Right..." It seemed like Samira was on the same thought wave as Ariana. She'd read a book about that once.. Had she read a book about everything once? No, not quite, but most things, apparently.

"So, with both jewelry and tinfoil, why do you think these visions happen? Like, would it only be to a true Seer, or could anyone have a vision? Is it random people who are picked to have visions, or because of their place in life?" Well, someone had to ask the deep, theoretical questions, didn't they?

"I don't think it would only have to be a Seer," said Samira. "But I do think it would at least have to be someone magical, not just any old Muggle." *cough* frauds *cough* "Have you ever heard of someone having another life in another time?" asked Samira suddenly, remembering something she picked up in a book. "I don't really know much about that, but maybe it has to do with it. Or maybe...maybe they were meant to have the vision. Maybe there was a reason, ya know?Like a sign or...something." Samira thought she was onto two very logical answers, but she still knew little to nothing on the subject, so hopefully her inferencing was right.

cheeseStrings 05-18-2011 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayKay (Post 10343099)
Rose leaned across and introduced herself to Janice..."Hi i'm Rose, Gryffindor, first year..."..

Rose had been very quiet for a while, thinking.... then suddenly had a brain wave.."Can mirrors be used for Scrying?... I have a vision about some woman like a thousand year ago using a mirror to see the face of her future husband or something.."


"I'm Niss, and your idea is really cool."

Quote:

Originally Posted by i-am-thorr (Post 10343738)
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"Aww c'mon Janice!" Rebecca said with a smile and a laugh. "Don't be shy. That's my job!" Okay, now she needs to focus, don't you think? "I've got another," she said. "What about really smooth rocks. Since you can see a reflection and they can move with magic!"

OOC: sorry for all the quotes ^__^;;

... "that could do too..."


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