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Upon entering the History of Magic classroom, it looks like it usually does. All the desks and chairs are in neat rows. A simple blackboard in the front of the room and Professor Welton sitting at her desk. Nothing too out of the ordinary is in sight.
A simple message written on the board:
Please take your seats and the lesson will begin shortly.
OOC: Class has started now. Please DO NOT announce your late arrive and please make sure that you are aware of the class rules. Late arrivals will result in lost of points. If you are just join us, please just act as you have been present the whole time.
Sabel's smile to Jake was brief, the lesson moving on and his nerves coiling in dangerous ways. Stiff and rigid, he sat with his arms crossed and a rather permanent frown on his expression, listening to the description of the Statue and the consequences. Once again, his mind was pulled this way and that, understanding while hating, agreeing while fighting against it with everything.
And one memory kept playing over and over in his mind. They could talk about the Statue all they wanted, theorize on consequences and choices, but there was nothing quite so powerful as having that choice in your face at a time of dire need. Nothing. And so he remained quiet.
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Nika raised her hand although she was unsure of the answer she thought it would be better if she at least made a guess. The small girl looked up from her notes and waited for her proffesor to call on her. "Well, Proffesor. I don't think that the creature would get into much trouble if it is not very smart. If it was a smart creature and knew better than to expose itself then I suppose it would be different. The animal wouldn't be harmed would it?" Nika got worried hoping that they wouldn't do anything to harm the animal.
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"Okay class, what about when creatures are the reason a breach happens. What happens then?"
Nerd. She was being a nerd. She didn't know what it was with History of Magic, but it was turning her into a nerd!!!
"Well, it states in Clause 73 of the Statute of Secrecy that: Each wizarding governing body will be responsible for the concealment, care and control of all magical beasts, beings, and spirits dwelling within its territory's borders. Should any such creature cause harm to, or draw the notice of, the Muggle community, that nation's wizarding governing body will be subject to discipline by the International Confederation of Wizards." Cass said as she read of a piece of parchment containing the advanced research that she had done earlier. Then she continued "So, they would probably alter the memory of the muggles so that they won't remember a thing about it...then they would have to do something with the creature...maybe place it in isolation or something?
"Okay class, what about when creatures are the reason a breach happens. What happens then?"
What did happen? Kurumi did mention the Loch Ness Monster, so maybe, She raised her hand. "Are there times where they create, or rather allow rumors to persist. I mean, some times that would be the safest thing wouldn't it? if too many think they see something you cant make that go away."
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Annie was not acquainted to all that Statute of Secrecy thing or such, but it seemed that everything was becoming clear now. And why she was forced to keep her secret of being a witch in front of her Muggle friends back at home. And the fact that well, she'd have to give up her magic sometimes when leaving to Russia to soccer camp.
And in case of creatures, magical creatures, she remembered a lot of supposed myths that ran across the city where she used to live, and well, the many legends that were present worldwide. She raised her hand and took a deep breath before guessing, "Wouldn't it be like the responsibility of the nation to keep it under control, like...they call them myths, or legends, and make Muggle believe that such things may or may not exist, and in some cases, well...make it appear as if it was all a trap of a Muggle to attract tourists?" Because it seemed the case in some places, that would drag in people just for the legend of some kind of ghost haunting a place.
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Simon smiled slightly as his answer was accepted, taking down that and the rest deemed correct into his notes for later on. As the treats were offered, the Gryffindor accepted one as he listened to Professor Welton continue. At the mention of creatures being involved in breaking the statute a few ideas came to mind but one stuck out, one that he wasn't to keen on if it was in fact true.
"Would the creature be harmed in some manner as punishment?" he hesitantly asked, reminded of those 'modified' to stay under the radar. Would creatures be held responsible when they were just being themselves or only guilty of having guilty owners?
"I would hope not. If the creature belonged to a wizard/witch or a wizard/witch was responsible for them, I would think that the punishment would be dealt to the owner or caretaker."
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"I think that it also depends on the situation when it comes to creatures as well. But basically, memory charms would have to be placed on the muggles that saw the creature, and the ministry would send out wizards to contain the creature, or destroy depending on the severity of the situation. Like if the creature was killing muggles." She raised her hand belatedly, and a bit disinterested with the general topic. Really, she could talk about all of this with her father, and if he ever heard about this lesson probably would again.
"Yes, that is what I was looking for. There have been numerous instances of this in history too."
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Kurumi tilted her head to the side. When a creature breached wizarding law? She didn't mean that it was the creature's fault, right? It wasn't like they all knew there were laws that had to be kept. "Professor, do you mean like if someone were breeding basilisks? Or perhaps not severing a crup's forked tail at the appropriate time?" Kurumi asked trying to narrow down the field. "Or are you looking for a response related to a creature acting of its own accord like a Dementor wrecking havoc on a non-magical household?"
"I was asking on a broad range, but you do bring up a good point. A crup running about with its forked tail is a completely different situation than say a Dementor wreaking havoc. But in both cases, the Ministry would be called, correct?"
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Luin listened to some of the answers made about the statute, and then thought of what she knew about the remificationsof the statute being breached. Some had already been brought up..hmm, maybe, "Well there was the. Ilfracombe Incident awhile back when that Common Welsh Green attacked a group of muggles at Ilfracombe." she paused, "They said the attack was stopped by a wizarding family who cast memory charms. Usually when such breaches like that occur the International Task Force is brought out to deal with the situation. When a witch or wizard knowingly performs magic on or in the presence and awareness of a Muggle they can be charged by the Wizengamot."
"Very good, Luin. I was hoping that someone would bring up the Ilfracombe Incident."
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Raising her hand yet again, Mia spoke up. "If a magical creature breaches the law by being notice or causing harm to a muggle then that nations' governing body will be subjected to disciplinary action by the International Confederation. Not sure exactly what would happen to them. My guess is that those responsible would be fired and maybe imprisoned. Maybe."
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Luin realized she was a bit behind on that subject and realized she should add to her answer, "In the cases with the creatures, it is the nation's government which is in trouble and subject to discipline by the confederation." she sat back, she was on track things were just going so fast at the moment.
"Very good. The nation's govering body would step in. So our Ministry would deal with it."
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Sierra searched deep within her brain for some random facts about magical creatures and muggles. Someone had mentioned the Loch Ness Monster and Yeti earlier, right? The Ministry of Magic had to step in then, too. Only, they reacted in different ways during each situation.
Up went her hand again.
"Well, someone mentioned the Loch Ness Monster and Yeti earlier. When muggles saw the Loch Ness Monster, The Department for the Regulation and Control of Magical Creatures stepped in to try and convince the muggles that the pictures taken were fake," she explained. Now how they did that, Sierra didn't know. Maybe muggles were just easily convinced or something. "There's also been an International Task Force set up in the mountains to control the Yeti situation."
"Again the Ministry and its departments would come in and do some damage control, but that all falls under Clause 73."
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Nerd. She was being a nerd. She didn't know what it was with History of Magic, but it was turning her into a nerd!!!
"Well, it states in Clause 73 of the Statute of Secrecy that: Each wizarding governing body will be responsible for the concealment, care and control of all magical beasts, beings, and spirits dwelling within its territory's borders. Should any such creature cause harm to, or draw the notice of, the Muggle community, that nation's wizarding governing body will be subject to discipline by the International Confederation of Wizards." Cass said as she read of a piece of parchment containing the advanced research that she had done earlier. Then she continued "So, they would probably alter the memory of the muggles so that they won't remember a thing about it...then they would have to do something with the creature...maybe place it in isolation or something?
"Very good."
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Simon looked at the Professor, he had no idea what Statue she was talking about then, this was getting very confussing. "Professor but that the only type of statue, I know." Simon sighed how was he suppost to do any good in the lesson when he had no idea what the Professor was talking about, maybe she would let him speak to her after class.
Simon listened to the next question and realised that again he would just have to guess again, this was going to be what he would have to do for most of this lesson or so he thought. "Well If it was my statue it was break..." Simon started but then realised that he was on about the statue he had just found out was wrong. "Well if the Creature breacher into something then I can't see them being put into prision or made to work off there debt thought it would be funny to see so I would have to conclude that the only thing that makes sence is to put it down or send it into exile."
Stopping for a moment, Sylvie frowned. A part of her felt she had failed her student. She could tell there was some confusion there. She would definitely advise that he stayed behind to talk to her.
"Simon, I'm not sure if you are understanding all of it. Maybe you should read the text and see me after the lesson. You are kind of getting it but not completely. Good effort though."
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Destiny had a headache already. So much talking and writing..
Was Professor Welton giving out SWEETS!?
With her headache suddenly gone, she raised her hand to answer the question. The question she had no idea the answer to. But, maybe if she at least tried, the Professor would give her more CANDY. Mwaha!
"Ugh, wouldn't they do something to the muggles? Like..obliviate them..or something?"
Jeez. Her answer was so LAME compared to everyone else's.
Pfft. Smarty pants, the lot of them.
"Obliviating muggles isn't unheard of. That is just what they did in the Ilfracombe Incident."
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"Depends on the creature," Jake shrugged, hand up. "House elves are generally seen as being responsible, but I suppose if a crup got out and into the muggle world, it would be the owner who got in trouble. Generally... if it's seen as having intelligence, or knowing enough to know what is wrong... they could be like... taken into custody... maybe destroyed."
Jake sadfaced there.
"Sometimes even the ones that don't KNOW can be destroyed."
EPIC SADFACE.
"But it's hard to know where the line is between those creatures who know and those who don't."
"Very good. The type of creature can be important and can sway what might happen. It's up the the Ministry again what happens, isn't it?"
Jake had a point about that line between a creature knowing and not knowing. It was a rather sad thing to think about, but once something of that nature occurred, it was out of their hands and in the hands of the Ministry.
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Sabel's smile to Jake was brief, the lesson moving on and his nerves coiling in dangerous ways. Stiff and rigid, he sat with his arms crossed and a rather permanent frown on his expression, listening to the description of the Statue and the consequences. Once again, his mind was pulled this way and that, understanding while hating, agreeing while fighting against it with everything.
And one memory kept playing over and over in his mind. They could talk about the Statue all they wanted, theorize on consequences and choices, but there was nothing quite so powerful as having that choice in your face at a time of dire need. Nothing. And so he remained quiet.
Looking to the silent members of her class, she took notice of them. She could tell that the wheels in their heads were turn. She wanted their discussion to spark ideas and thoughts, but to what extent she was a bit scared to know. Shaking those thoughts, she turned back to the other students.
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Nika raised her hand although she was unsure of the answer she thought it would be better if she at least made a guess. The small girl looked up from her notes and waited for her proffesor to call on her. "Well, Proffesor. I don't think that the creature would get into much trouble if it is not very smart. If it was a smart creature and knew better than to expose itself then I suppose it would be different. The animal wouldn't be harmed would it?" Nika got worried hoping that they wouldn't do anything to harm the animal.
"Again, I'm not completely sure as to what would happen. There is a great amount of grey area, but I think we are lead to believe that if the creature is under the care of a wizard or witch, the creature would be spared and the owner or caretaker would be handed the punishment."
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What did happen? Kurumi did mention the Loch Ness Monster, so maybe, She raised her hand. "Are there times where they create, or rather allow rumors to persist. I mean, some times that would be the safest thing wouldn't it? if too many think they see something you cant make that go away."
Tilting her head in though, Sylvie nodded slightly.
"You know, I'm not sure if the Ministry would directly allow rumours to persist. I mean sometimes, things can fall through the cracks and be missed. In the case of the Ilfracombe Incident, there was a single muggle that still swears that there was a dirty flying lizard that ruined his Li Lo."
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Annie was not acquainted to all that Statute of Secrecy thing or such, but it seemed that everything was becoming clear now. And why she was forced to keep her secret of being a witch in front of her Muggle friends back at home. And the fact that well, she'd have to give up her magic sometimes when leaving to Russia to soccer camp.
And in case of creatures, magical creatures, she remembered a lot of supposed myths that ran across the city where she used to live, and well, the many legends that were present worldwide. She raised her hand and took a deep breath before guessing, "Wouldn't it be like the responsibility of the nation to keep it under control, like...they call them myths, or legends, and make Muggle believe that such things may or may not exist, and in some cases, well...make it appear as if it was all a trap of a Muggle to attract tourists?" Because it seemed the case in some places, that would drag in people just for the legend of some kind of ghost haunting a place.
"Yes, it would be the nations responsibility to keep it under wraps. That is what Clause 73 is for. That is a very good point as well, Annie."
Good ideas, she did like that.
"I'm sure that muggles well believe what they want. I mean those that manage to slip under the creaks and aren't obliviated, may go on and keep of what they see and those stories would continue on. Call it what you may, myths or legends. They still continue on. Word of mouth is a powerful thing."
"Yes, Kita that is a good description of what the International Confederation is. Their job is to help the magical communities of the world. Two points to you."
"Very good! Two points to you, Helena."
"Very good as well, Finn. Two points."
"Very good description as well. Points for you too."
"Very good, Legend. Two points to you."
"Very well put. Two points for each of you girls."
"Yes, Sabel. That was one of their actions that is well known. One point to you."
"They aren't completely in charge of that, but one point to you as well. We'll talk about just who makes sure wizards behave and such."
"Yes, Sierra. That is very true. They established the Statue and are the ones responsible for the decision to hide the wizard world from the muggle world. One points."
"True, they can up with it. But they alone don't enforce the Statue. One point."
"Yes good, One point to each for each of you."
Hearing Ellie, she couldn't help but smile a bit and nodded.
"You have the jest of it. One point for you too."
Hearing the sound of wood coming in contact with flesh, she frowned and looked to Jake. That must have hurt and that did concern her. She had a feeling the topic of the lesson wouldn't actually be welcome as she wanted but there wasn't much she could do about it now.
"Yes, the Confederation consists of both wizards and witches. The name is a bit misleading, isn't it? But I can assure you that witches are represented in the Confederation. "
"Well, that is what the Statue is meant to do. The Confederation is just the governing body that established it."
"Yes, Nerida. One point to you for your description, but next time maybe you could put that in your own words. Direct quoting from the text leaves something to be desired."
Catching sight of a certain She-Snake in the back, she took notice the abense of the other two. Rather odd, but she pushed away the though as she heard a question and returned her attention to Emily again.
"We, the professors and I, have been given a curriculum and we are teaching it. I would think you as students would like the fact that every thing is related." she added with a shrug. "Muggles are linked to us and of course, I'm going to talk about them and how they relate to our history."
Yes, this was the kind of reception she was kind of scared of receiving over this lesson.
"Okay, class. There is no point in even trying to tiptoe around this. The Statue is an important part of history and that is what we will be talking about. Some of you have mentioned why it was established. But can any of you tell me more about it? Or better yet, state examples of the Statue in use."
"Well, I believe the statue could be used to help witches and wiaards hide ther wands and magi when muggles come into town" Rex answered the professor.
I think the vreaures would be send out so far into the eoods and would not be allowed back at all" Rex told the professor.
"I would hope not. If the creature belonged to a wizard/witch or a wizard/witch was responsible for them, I would think that the punishment would be dealt to the owner or caretaker."
"Yes, that is what I was looking for. There have been numerous instances of this in history too."
"I was asking on a broad range, but you do bring up a good point. A crup running about with its forked tail is a completely different situation than say a Dementor wreaking havoc. But in both cases, the Ministry would be called, correct?"
"Very good, Luin. I was hoping that someone would bring up the Ilfracombe Incident."
"Very good. The nation's govering body would step in. So our Ministry would deal with it."
"Again the Ministry and its departments would come in and do some damage control, but that all falls under Clause 73." "Very good."
Stopping for a moment, Sylvie frowned. A part of her felt she had failed her student. She could tell there was some confusion there. She would definitely advise that he stayed behind to talk to her.
"Simon, I'm not sure if you are understanding all of it. Maybe you should read the text and see me after the lesson. You are kind of getting it but not completely. Good effort though."
"Obliviating muggles isn't unheard of. That is just what they did in the Ilfracombe Incident."
"Very good. The type of creature can be important and can sway what might happen. It's up the the Ministry again what happens, isn't it?"
Jake had a point about that line between a creature knowing and not knowing. It was a rather sad thing to think about, but once something of that nature occurred, it was out of their hands and in the hands of the Ministry.
Looking to the silent members of her class, she took notice of them. She could tell that the wheels in their heads were turn. She wanted their discussion to spark ideas and thoughts, but to what extent she was a bit scared to know. Shaking those thoughts, she turned back to the other students.
"Again, I'm not completely sure as to what would happen. There is a great amount of grey area, but I think we are lead to believe that if the creature is under the care of a wizard or witch, the creature would be spared and the owner or caretaker would be handed the punishment."
"Yes, it would be the nations responsibility to keep it under wraps. That is what Clause 73 is for. That is a very good point as well, Annie."
Good ideas, she did like that.
"I'm sure that muggles well believe what they want. I mean those that manage to slip under the creaks and aren't obliviated, may go on and keep of what they see and those stories would continue on. Call it what you may, myths or legends. They still continue on. Word of mouth is a powerful thing."
Ms if we are not tip toeing around dont they keep the Muggles in there pen so to speek,say a muggle dinds a dragon bone they go in mess with hias memory and make him think it is a dino bone or just take the bone so every one he works with thinks he is a wack-o alot of times with out much regaurd to what happens to the muggle in question"
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"I'm sure that muggles well believe what they want. I mean those that manage to slip under the creaks and aren't obliviated, may go on and keep of what they see and those stories would continue on. Call it what you may, myths or legends. They still continue on. Word of mouth is a powerful thing."
Okay, Helena was confused. Her hand shot in the air the moment professor Welton finished. "Professor? Are you saying that the myths and the legends," or are they the same thing? "Exist because... some muggles weren't obliviated? So they saw something from the wizarding world and created those myths?" Now that she thought about it, it had no sense. Or... not?
"I would hope not. If the creature belonged to a wizard/witch or a wizard/witch was responsible for them, I would think that the punishment would be dealt to the owner or caretaker."
"Yes, that is what I was looking for. There have been numerous instances of this in history too."
"I was asking on a broad range, but you do bring up a good point. A crup running about with its forked tail is a completely different situation than say a Dementor wreaking havoc. But in both cases, the Ministry would be called, correct?"
"Very good, Luin. I was hoping that someone would bring up the Ilfracombe Incident."
"Very good. The nation's govering body would step in. So our Ministry would deal with it."
"Again the Ministry and its departments would come in and do some damage control, but that all falls under Clause 73." "Very good."
Stopping for a moment, Sylvie frowned. A part of her felt she had failed her student. She could tell there was some confusion there. She would definitely advise that he stayed behind to talk to her.
"Simon, I'm not sure if you are understanding all of it. Maybe you should read the text and see me after the lesson. You are kind of getting it but not completely. Good effort though."
"Obliviating muggles isn't unheard of. That is just what they did in the Ilfracombe Incident."
"Very good. The type of creature can be important and can sway what might happen. It's up the the Ministry again what happens, isn't it?"
Jake had a point about that line between a creature knowing and not knowing. It was a rather sad thing to think about, but once something of that nature occurred, it was out of their hands and in the hands of the Ministry.
Looking to the silent members of her class, she took notice of them. She could tell that the wheels in their heads were turn. She wanted their discussion to spark ideas and thoughts, but to what extent she was a bit scared to know. Shaking those thoughts, she turned back to the other students.
"Again, I'm not completely sure as to what would happen. There is a great amount of grey area, but I think we are lead to believe that if the creature is under the care of a wizard or witch, the creature would be spared and the owner or caretaker would be handed the punishment."
"Yes, it would be the nations responsibility to keep it under wraps. That is what Clause 73 is for. That is a very good point as well, Annie."
Good ideas, she did like that.
"I'm sure that muggles well believe what they want. I mean those that manage to slip under the creaks and aren't obliviated, may go on and keep of what they see and those stories would continue on. Call it what you may, myths or legends. They still continue on. Word of mouth is a powerful thing."
Hugo watched the points fly through the classroom like cornish pixies. He should give some answers now. He raised his hand. "Professor, I think anyone who believes in witchcraft in a muggle community is considered a mad man," he said. This wouldn't get him any points, but it would get him fired up for a discussion. "They always carry on and there's always a bunch who believe them but most of the muggles will just go on and not believe in magic," he said. His comments really weren't class worthy, but how could he compete with Kurumi?!
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Okay, Helena was confused. Her hand shot in the air the moment professor Welton finished. "Professor? Are you saying that the myths and the legends," or are they the same thing? "Exist because... some muggles weren't obliviated? So they saw something from the wizarding world and created those myths?" Now that she thought about it, it had no sense. Or... not?
Kurumi looked towards Helena and smiled. "I think it is safe to say that that is true," Kurumi nodded. "We have already discussed the Loch Ness Monster. But perhaps even some of the fairy tales we, erm, I, erm, non-magical people grew up with are based witches and wizards missing a few non-magical people on their Obliviate rounds. The Little Mermaind could be an example. Whose to say that someone didn't see a witch, who was an Animagus, mid transformation or an actual merperson."
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Okay, Helena was confused. Her hand shot in the air the moment professor Welton finished. "Professor? Are you saying that the myths and the legends," or are they the same thing? "Exist because... some muggles weren't obliviated? So they saw something from the wizarding world and created those myths?" Now that she thought about it, it had no sense. Or... not?
Mia turned to look at the young Slytherin and she smiled. "It has happened especially when there were a lot of muggles around. Take for instance the Ilfracombe incident that happened over a hundred years ago. There were hundreds of muggle holidayers when a rogue green Welsh dragon attacked them. It was lucky that there was a wizarding family there at the time and they performed the largest group of memory charms seen in the twentieth century but of course it was impossible to get everyone."
She shrugged her shoulders. "No doubt there are going to be slip ups. I guess we're just lucky that muggles write off these incidences as hallucinations or myths and legends as the Professor said."
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Mia turned to look at the young Slytherin and she smiled. "It has happened especially when there were a lot of muggles around. Take for instance the Ilfracombe incident that happened over a hundred years ago. There were hundreds of muggle holidayers when a rogue green Welsh dragon attacked them. It was lucky that there was a wizarding family there at the time and they performed the largest group of memory charms seen in the twentieth century but of course it was impossible to get everyone."
She shrugged her shoulders. "No doubt there are going to be slip ups. I guess we're just lucky that muggles write off these incidences as hallucinations or myths and legends as the Professor said."
Instead of a response from professor Welton, Helena heard a girl. "I guess you are right. But won't they... figure it all out... one day?" That would be terrible. Wizards could become something like lab rats... Until muggles will figure out how to have magical abilities as well. Okay, that was extremely stupid. A mad wizard or witch alone could get rid of every muggle getting in his or her way. We have magical abilities. They don't. And never will. Haha.
Instead of a response from professor Welton, Helena heard a girl. "I guess you are right. But won't they... figure it all out... one day?" That would be terrible. Wizards could become something like lab rats... Until muggles will figure out how to have magical abilities as well. Okay, that was extremely stupid. A mad wizard or witch alone could get rid of every muggle getting in his or her way. We have magical abilities. They don't. And never will. Haha.
Again she gave the young girl a smile. "Yeah they might. But I think us wizards and witches can look after ourselves. Besides I think muggles are a lot more tolertant of what is different then they were hundreds of years ago." Mia chuckled just a little. "And really are muggles any worse off than us?"
They had electricity and technology and all that stuff to make their lives so much easier.
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Again she gave the young girl a smile. "Yeah they might. But I think us wizards and witches can look after ourselves. Besides I think muggles are a lot more tolertant of what is different then they were hundreds of years ago." Mia chuckled just a little. "And really are muggles any worse off than us?"
They had electricity and technology and all that stuff to make their lives so much easier.
Helena smiled back. "You're right, again. It's not like they're going to hunt us down with torches and stuff like that." Then burn us alive. Yeah, Helena's imagination was... well, interesting.
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"I'm sure that muggles well believe what they want. I mean those that manage to slip under the creaks and aren't obliviated, may go on and keep of what they see and those stories would continue on. Call it what you may, myths or legends. They still continue on. Word of mouth is a powerful thing."
K-Lee was surprised. "Muggles that haven't been obliviated are the cause of the myths and legends." She said amazed. "Is that the same with fairytales?" K-Lee asked a moment later.
"I'm sure that muggles well believe what they want. I mean those that manage to slip under the creaks and aren't obliviated, may go on and keep of what they see and those stories would continue on. Call it what you may, myths or legends. They still continue on. Word of mouth is a powerful thing."
"Like the Loch Ness Monster?" Cass asked. She had been wondering about that thing for a while now since they took that vacation at the southern part of Scotland where all the muggles were making a big deal out of a some huge fish that they couldn't even see.
"Yes, Kita that is a good description of what the International Confederation is. Their job is to help the magical communities of the world. Two points to you."
"Very good! Two points to you, Helena."
"Very good as well, Finn. Two points."
"Very good description as well. Points for you too."
"Very good, Legend. Two points to you."
"Very well put. Two points for each of you girls."
"Yes, Sabel. That was one of their actions that is well known. One point to you."
"They aren't completely in charge of that, but one point to you as well. We'll talk about just who makes sure wizards behave and such."
"Yes, Sierra. That is very true. They established the Statue and are the ones responsible for the decision to hide the wizard world from the muggle world. One points."
"True, they can up with it. But they alone don't enforce the Statue. One point."
"Yes good, One point to each for each of you."
Hearing Ellie, she couldn't help but smile a bit and nodded.
"You have the jest of it. One point for you too."
Hearing the sound of wood coming in contact with flesh, she frowned and looked to Jake. That must have hurt and that did concern her. She had a feeling the topic of the lesson wouldn't actually be welcome as she wanted but there wasn't much she could do about it now.
"Yes, the Confederation consists of both wizards and witches. The name is a bit misleading, isn't it? But I can assure you that witches are represented in the Confederation. "
"Well, that is what the Statue is meant to do. The Confederation is just the governing body that established it."
"Yes, Nerida. One point to you for your description, but next time maybe you could put that in your own words. Direct quoting from the text leaves something to be desired."
Catching sight of a certain She-Snake in the back, she took notice the abense of the other two. Rather odd, but she pushed away the though as she heard a question and returned her attention to Emily again.
"We, the professors and I, have been given a curriculum and we are teaching it. I would think you as students would like the fact that every thing is related." she added with a shrug. "Muggles are linked to us and of course, I'm going to talk about them and how they relate to our history."
Yes, this was the kind of reception she was kind of scared of receiving over this lesson.
"Okay, class. There is no point in even trying to tiptoe around this. The Statue is an important part of history and that is what we will be talking about. Some of you have mentioned why it was established. But can any of you tell me more about it? Or better yet, state examples of the Statue in use."
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"Yes, that's a good example. A rather awful act indeed. To draw less attention to the wizard community, such things happen. One point for Jake."
"Another good example Simon. One point."
"That is a good one as well. One point.
Upon hearing all of Simon;s answer, she blinked for a moment. "That wasn't exactly what I was asking for, but I will say you do have a good imagination." she smiled. Yes, it was completely out of left field. Completely, but that was just what she needed to focus on her lesson.
"Those are excellent examples as well, girls. One point for each of you."
"Yes, more added precautions to stop the detection of our world to those outside. One point for each of you."
"Very true, Neptune. It is polite to send a thank you card, but sometimes muggles don't want help. Some might see it as an invasion of sorts."
"It is formally called the Statute, but in old habits I do call it the Statue. I will try to refrain from that. Sorry class."
Old habits did die hard.
"I see you all seem to understand what the Statue states and what is looks like when put into effect, well for the most part at least."
Okay, maybe not everyone seemed to understand. But the lesson needed to move onward.
"What are the ramifications if the Statue is breached? In your own word please."
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SPOILER!!: Such smarties you all are.
"Very good. It all depends on the severity of the breach. Your wand can be snapped in half and you could very well be sent to Azkaban. A visit to the Wizengamot would happen, but age also does matter. Two points to each of you."
Turning from her spot in front of the blackboard, she moved to the treats on her desk. Pulling her wand out, she swished and flicked lightly. Sending the treats down the aisle for the students to take one each. Following behind the treats, she continued on.
"If say a student breaches the Statute, expulsion is usually the penalty. A visit to in front of the Wizengamot wouldn't necessary be warranted, but in the case of Harry Potter, it did happen."
Upon hearing this Sylvie stopped and shook her head.
"I think we are talking about very different things, Simon. But you are right about being in trouble."
It appeared that she would have to maybe have the Hufflepuff come to her office later to help him understand what they were talking about.
Seeing movement in the back of the room, Sylvie cleared her throat as she stopped at the back of the room, the treats continuing on up the next aisle.
"Josh, if you want to move seats. There are a number of seats in the front you can take."
The switch in seats wasn't lost on her. No, she would be a fool not to notice just why he was moving about after the lesson had started. This would just be another couple she needed to keep her eye on this term.
"I wouldn't call it that. You aren't going to die for breaching the Statute. You will be punished, but I would say death would be a drastic punishment. Time in Azkaban is rather serious on its own."
Looking back to the couple and giving them a look, she turned back toward the front and up the aisle.
"That is a very good question. It would all come down to the situation. If the breach occurs because of say life or death, the Ministry would intervene."
Taking a moment, Sylvie milled over the first years answer and nodded.
"Selina, I'm not sue if you are trying to really answer my question or the one that Jaina is asking here. If the Statute is breach there are consequences and acts that will be put into motion. The severity of said consequences and acts are relative to the breach though."
The Gryffindor was on to something, but maybe it was just a tad bit premature for that part of the lesson. Shaking her head ever so slightly, she ended her charm and returned the treats to her desk, facing the class once again.
Oh another question.
"Yes, that can be a punishment as well. The threat of not being able to perform magic, can put fear in some people's heart."
Yes, a very good question.
"Well, the wand choices the wizard or witch, correct? Say a wizard or witch has their wand snapped. They could possible attempt to use another wand, but the effects wouldn't be as powerful as their own wand. I'm not sure of the all the linguistics or details, but I'm sure that if the Ministry has snapped your wand and mean for you to not practice magic; they have their ways in making it so."
Of course, she had her own theories and she would keep them to herself.
"Okay class, what about when creatures are the reason a breach happens. What happens then?"
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"I would hope not. If the creature belonged to a wizard/witch or a wizard/witch was responsible for them, I would think that the punishment would be dealt to the owner or caretaker."
"Yes, that is what I was looking for. There have been numerous instances of this in history too."
"I was asking on a broad range, but you do bring up a good point. A crup running about with its forked tail is a completely different situation than say a Dementor wreaking havoc. But in both cases, the Ministry would be called, correct?"
"Very good, Luin. I was hoping that someone would bring up the Ilfracombe Incident."
"Very good. The nation's govering body would step in. So our Ministry would deal with it."
"Again the Ministry and its departments would come in and do some damage control, but that all falls under Clause 73." "Very good."
Stopping for a moment, Sylvie frowned. A part of her felt she had failed her student. She could tell there was some confusion there. She would definitely advise that he stayed behind to talk to her.
"Simon, I'm not sure if you are understanding all of it. Maybe you should read the text and see me after the lesson. You are kind of getting it but not completely. Good effort though."
"Obliviating muggles isn't unheard of. That is just what they did in the Ilfracombe Incident."
"Very good. The type of creature can be important and can sway what might happen. It's up the the Ministry again what happens, isn't it?"
Jake had a point about that line between a creature knowing and not knowing. It was a rather sad thing to think about, but once something of that nature occurred, it was out of their hands and in the hands of the Ministry.
Looking to the silent members of her class, she took notice of them. She could tell that the wheels in their heads were turn. She wanted their discussion to spark ideas and thoughts, but to what extent she was a bit scared to know. Shaking those thoughts, she turned back to the other students.
"Again, I'm not completely sure as to what would happen. There is a great amount of grey area, but I think we are lead to believe that if the creature is under the care of a wizard or witch, the creature would be spared and the owner or caretaker would be handed the punishment."
"Yes, it would be the nations responsibility to keep it under wraps. That is what Clause 73 is for. That is a very good point as well, Annie."
Good ideas, she did like that.
"I'm sure that muggles well believe what they want. I mean those that manage to slip under the creaks and aren't obliviated, may go on and keep of what they see and those stories would continue on. Call it what you may, myths or legends. They still continue on. Word of mouth is a powerful thing."
Raven is kindly listening to all that discussion, he still at quiet momentum. but of course they all have some point. He has some thought, how possible a muggle may escape in a Ministry obliviator that easy, or something that muggle involve in a certain wizarding people
"Selina, I'm not sue if you are trying to really answer my question or the one that Jaina is asking here. If the Statute is breach there are consequences and acts that will be put into motion. The severity of said consequences and acts are relative to the breach though."
The Gryffindor was on to something, but maybe it was just a tad bit premature for that part of the lesson. Shaking her head ever so slightly, she ended her charm and returned the treats to her desk, facing the class once again.
Oh another question.
"Okay class, what about when creatures are the reason a breach happens. What happens then?"
Selina nodded at the teacher. Maybe she had jumped the gun slightly, but the topic sparked a flame of thought in her head. And flames only ever grew, once they were lit it was almost impossible to stop their growth.
"Yes, ma'am."
At the next question Selina thought very hard. It had never occured to her that a breach could be done by a creature. That seemed to complicate things, because although some magical creatures had intellegence equivilent or even higher than human others acted merely on instinct.
Raising her hand Selina said, "Well, I suppose that it would be tricky. A few things could happen. But, I'm not really sure."
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Mia turned to look at the young Slytherin and she smiled. "It has happened especially when there were a lot of muggles around. Take for instance the Ilfracombe incident that happened over a hundred years ago. There were hundreds of muggle holidayers when a rogue green Welsh dragon attacked them. It was lucky that there was a wizarding family there at the time and they performed the largest group of memory charms seen in the twentieth century but of course it was impossible to get everyone."
She shrugged her shoulders. "No doubt there are going to be slip ups. I guess we're just lucky that muggles write off these incidences as hallucinations or myths and legends as the Professor said."
Listening to the discussion, Patroclus decided he should hurry up, and pipe in!
Every question so far, someone else had stolen his answer, but now it was group time, so everyone now had a chance to have their piece heard.
"I think with Dragons, that is one of the most prevalent case of Muggle's slipping through the cracks. Dragons can be seen in sooo many Muggle Children stories, and in movies. Actaully there are quite a lot of things to us that are real, that appear in Muggle Films and Stories......again it comes down to the fact, and it is the same arguement over and over again, that Muggle chose not to believe that these such things exist." What was the saying, can't see past the end of their nose..... "[B]Dragons, Merpeople, faries, Magic, they chose not to believe because it is easier for them to just brush it all off, as just a story or a myth"[/B
]Patroclus had nothing against Muggles, but there was a lot of proof staring them in the face!
Looking to the silent members of her class, she took notice of them. She could tell that the wheels in their heads were turn. She wanted their discussion to spark ideas and thoughts, but to what extent she was a bit scared to know. Shaking those thoughts, she turned back to the other students.
"I'm sure that muggles well believe what they want. I mean those that manage to slip under the creaks and aren't obliviated, may go on and keep of what they see and those stories would continue on. Call it what you may, myths or legends. They still continue on. Word of mouth is a powerful thing."
Yeah, it was. Emily knew that first hand. Rumours spread like wildfire. "Professor. So, if the statue was... gone. What would happen? Would Wizards be able to go out and... do magic in front of muggles without getting in trouble?" she asked raising her hand.
By the sounds of other lessons, the statue might be abolished. Would that be a good thing? She did not know. But if she was allowed to do magic in front of muggles without getting in trouble... revenge would be sweet.
Annabelle was simply obeserving all the questions her classmates had. They were really good questions and she began jotting down some notes in her notebook.
Okay, Helena was confused. Her hand shot in the air the moment professor Welton finished. "Professor? Are you saying that the myths and the legends," or are they the same thing? "Exist because... some muggles weren't obliviated? So they saw something from the wizarding world and created those myths?" Now that she thought about it, it had no sense. Or... not?
Kyle Manning listened to the question and then like a light bulb going on her hand shot up instinctively and her question pour fourth like a freight train through the station. "Could you easily say that the 'Legend' of Kind Arthur, Merlin, and in a sense Avalon in general is one of those myths or legends?" She asked still at the same time she took notes with her other hand.
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"Again, I'm not completely sure as to what would happen. There is a great amount of grey area, but I think we are lead to believe that if the creature is under the care of a wizard or witch, the creature would be spared and the owner or caretaker would be handed the punishment."
Nika smiled and nodded. "I think that is a good way to handle it. I wouldn't want a poor creature who didn't know any better to be punished." She felt relieved that they wouldn't punish an innocent creature.
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