"Astrology and Cartomancy, ma'am?" Pandora asked, her hand raised again. She wasn't sure if she should give a description of each or not, mainly because she wasn't even sure if her answer was right.

Alice was now completely lost. Being one of the sceptics of this subject she hadn’t really done much reading on it…well she had tried last night but then she got into a conversation and then she had fallen asleep when reading her books. She hadn’t expected this kind of question at all. Well never mind, she wouldn’t be able to answer straight away in every class. Maybe it would be best just to sit back and listen to everyone else’s responses.

Pandora raised her hand. "The two types of Divination are Natural Divination and Artifitial Divination." She went into more detail. "Natural Divination means that the Divination operates without an outside devices. It is usually called 'intuitive' or 'inspired'. It is also believed that the knowledge that the person has is passed through them by a God and is given to them through dreams. Artificial Divination is like what others mentioned before: tesseomancy and chiromancy. There is an outside device controling the Divination."

Waiting for answers to her question, Renée raised an eyebrow again as another student, a little Ravenclaw, chose to walk in late. Not only that, but she didn't really even seem to notice that she had, which made her sigh inwardly. Why did it have to be a Ravenclaw? "Good morning. It was nice of you to join us, but unfortunately you are late. One point from Ravenclaw," she replied, still inwardly flinching. Hopefully the girl would catch up with the lesson.

Again!? At least she hadn't asked her to explain. Enough people knew about her family issues. She really didn't need her brother trying to get revenge for ruining his chances with an attractive girl or something stupid like that. Nathaniel would no doubt get peeved about the fact that she told her Ancient Runes professor that he was essentially the reason she was late.
Maybe I am just really off schedule. But it is the first day, so maybe I just need to get used to where my classes are.

She quickly grabbed her textbook from her bag, but after hearing the question left it on her desk.
Nathaniel was studying this over break, wasn't he?
She decided to interject; she hated speaking in front of her peers, but she really needed to get back some house points.

"I think she's right: astrology and cartomancy. Divination using celestial forms, like the planets, and fortune-telling," she said as clearly as possible, hoping her memory was correct.

As she'd pretty much expected, Renée found that most people struggled a little with the question that had been posed. She smiled at those who had spoken up, however, since at least they tried to come up with something. "Those are forms of divination, and I'll give you a point for bringing them up, but you'll find they're not necessarily the classifications I'm looking for. Try for broader classifications." Or wait a bit and she'd answer them. It seemed others wanted to take a guess though, so she held back on answering her own question just yet.

Renée noticed the frown, but since the lesson had moved on, she chose not to ask about it. If Jake was having difficulties, he was always welcome to stop by her office outside of class. Or ask, but instead it seemed he just chose to keep going with answering the questions given and she gave him a smile. "Not quite, but that certainly is an interesting idea. Another point. Divination doesn't necessarily focus on now and what is to come, though," she replied. She appreciated attempts, at least. Even if they were a bit out of left field.



A thoughtful expression crossed Renée's face at the next couple answers she was given, though. Those were two classifications, but still not exactly the answer she'd been looking for. "Close, but not quite," she said. Still thinking about the answers. "I imagine you'd find both of those fit into one of the classifications I'm after, but take a point each anyway." For trying. Besides, it had been an intriguing answer.

Renée smiled again as the sceptic answered her earlier question abotu the oracles. It seemed he knew about them, even if he didn't believe in them. "Yes. Pythia would probably be the most famous of the ancient Greek oracles, and actually, that would be a good example for one of the classifications I'm looking for, so one point," she said with a nod. At least he seemed to be opening his mind a bit, but she shook her head slightly as he continued. "No it is not, as that is simply a form of Divination. But you're getting closer."

Renée fought back another grin at the creativity of the next answer, and looked over at the young boy who had given it. "I appreciate your creativity, but no. That would be more likely a way of classifying Diviners, don't you think? As opposed to Divination," she replied to him with a smile. At least her students were thinking. Not closing themselves off to possibilities. That was a good sign, but she was still afraid she would have to give them the answer she was looking for.



A grin appeared on Renée's face at two of the answers she'd gotten, though. It seemed she wasn't going to have to provide all the answers just yet. "Thank you, Mr. Bennet, Miss Black. Two points for each of you," she said, turning to them, before going back to the class as a unit.

"Natural and artificial divination are the two basic classifications that have lasted since ancient times, and as was said, natural comes more from outside inspiration. Like the oracles Mr. Uronen was mentioning, prophecies, or Seers. I'd imagine there aren't too many people proficient in natural divination here, though, so let's focus on artificial divination for now. We've heard a few types of artificial divination already mentioned," she said, glancing at those who had suggested them in discussion. "But does anyone want to suggest any others?"

ooc: Stick with one form of divination per response, please. And keep in mind the ones that have already been mentioned: astrology, cleromancy, crystal balls, tasseomancy, taromancy/cartomancy (which will be further discussed anyway) . . .

Selena smiled at Sammy who sat next to her and nodded back at the reply of the professor. Oooh, definitely nicer than Lafay. Yup, this was a nice teacher. She smiled at her, getting ready for whatever work she was supposed to do today, though she'd have to admit, the idea of work wasn't very appealing. But Divination was fun, because there was always a chance that you could be studying candy to determine your future or something of that sort.

She raised her hand for the next question and replied. "Well, another form of divination is apantomancy, having to do with animals," Selena offered.

Simon smiled softly back in return as his answer as well as another's had been the one the professor had been searching more all along. The added points were just a bonus to knowing he wasn't too bad in the subject. Listening to the next question, he raised his hand once more to provide an example.

"There is Oneiromancy or the divination through the study of dreams," he replied.

Simon looked at the Professor. "Maybe you are right Professor." Simon laughed, he was thinking this Professor was okay but she wasn't as good as Professor Nolan he would have laugh at that answer. Simon thought long and hard before answering the next question. "How about people who can right things on a paper and then not remember anything about it afterward I don't know what it's called but is that a type of Divination?"

Annabelle managed to find the divination classroom. She saw the professors name on the chalkboard. "Hello Professor Bishop" she said quietly smiling and waving. She found Jania and she sat down with her. She responded to what divination was "Divination, is a study in which you clear your mind and you discover another world in your dreams and make predictions based on what you know." she hopefully answered right, since she was a first year after all and wanted to take this class because she wanted to do something different.

Pandora raised her hand. "There is Lithomancy, which has to do with stones and gems. The traditional method uses thirteen stones in all. The first seven represent the ancient astrological signs: sun, moon, mars, mercury, saturn, jupiter, and uranus. Then the remaining six represent the home: love, luck, health, magic, and news."

He...HATED this.

Entirely.

But that didn't matter when he raised his hand, right? "I suppose 'Pyromancy' could be one of the artificial forms, no? The one that uses fire for interpretation," he said, with a nod, Fletcher came to mind when he said 'Pyromancy', he'd surely like that Divination method.

And then boy eyed the Gryffindor Captain and frowned slightly, before raising his hand again, "Wouldn't 'Oneiromancy' be between the natural forms, though? Since the dreams aren't particularly forced on us and all."

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"Natural and artificial divination are the two basic classifications that have lasted since ancient times, and as was said, natural comes more from outside inspiration. Like the oracles Mr. Uronen was mentioning, prophecies, or Seers. I'd imagine there aren't too many people proficient in natural divination here, though, so let's focus on artificial divination for now. We've heard a few types of artificial divination already mentioned," she said, glancing at those who had suggested them in discussion. "But does anyone want to suggest any others?"

A thoughtful expression spread across Charisa's face. There were like, a gazillion types of divination, right? So a good number had popped into her head. She raised her hand. "Professor, there's numerology," she said. "The divination of numbers." Oh, Merlin. She hoped that was one of the artificial types.

Parke listened to the other students give their answers. When the professor pointed out the correct response, he nodded to himself. That made more sense. He made sure to write it down.

Another question already. They didn't stay on one topic for too long, did they? He raised hand once again. At least this answer he was sure of. "Aeromancy is one. Not commonly practiced, it involves the interpretation of cloud shape, size, and color in particular, but the name can be applied to any kind of divination that makes use of things in the sky, and not covered under astrology."

The two types of divination didn't really seem all that hard to understand. Then again, Sierra had been fairly quiet for most of the class and had spend her time probably listening too much. If she wanted any credit for her work at all, though, she'd likely have to speak up and say something soon.

She absentmindedly tapped her foot lightly against the floor as she thought about all the various types of divination she'd heard of just from being part of a household where all its members were witches and wizards. Most of the obvious ones had already been named. Hmm... Raising her hand, she said, "What about Tiromancy?" That was divination using cheese. It sounded interesting enough. Kind of funny, too. "It's a type of divination using cheese, which...sounds really unusual."

Emily raised her hand. "Tarot cards" she said looking at Professor Bishop hopefully.

Raven simply nodded to Professor, in her opening speech

Raven smile again, yes, he have a partner, okay. "yeah, I attend potion and rune too, earlier this morning. I think I saw you" Raven answer

"Wow, Pandora, you're amazing, just like in rune" he regards

Raven amazed of the discussion, he almost didn't understand all along, the class is very new to him, but he listen carefully

"Pandora, you sure a bookworm, thank Minister you partner me" Raven give a piece of admiration

Raven is somewhat loss, he maybe save by Pandora, when the time come

With a shudder at the disgustingness of the thought, Bennet offered, "Cartopedy - feet divination. Though why anyone would want to touch someone else's feet to divine the future is beyond me. With people's creepy toes, especially when the second one is longer than the first. Or when the big toe is huuuuuuuge and bulbous. And the toe nails. Ugh. I think I might throw up in my mouth at the thought," Bennet realized he was rambling and cut himself off abruptly. With a deer in the headlights look, he glanced around the room and then down at his desk, where he vowed he would keep his eyes for the rest of the lesson.

"Like... palm-reading and stuff?" Jake suggested, putting his hand in the air. He underSTOOD slightly, too. Which... was all good.

The young man studied his own palm for a while.

Pandora smiled and gave a slight laughed. "I get it from my mother's side of the family. Divination has interested me since I was young, so my Mother taught me some. I easily understood it." She smiled again. "It's like my brain is hard-wired for it."

He fought the need to chuckle. But the Lockhart boy did shake his head and leaned casually at his desk. Jake could at least know the actual name of it, right?

After all, they have studied it before. And it wasn't a hard one either! He could've said Palmistry instead of Cheiromancy and still get away with it.

Treyen was seriously considering just asking for a permission out of the class...and then his eyes wandered off to Ellie. He sighed. He wasn't leaving.

He saw that.

He SAW that.

And the quill Jake held was going straight at Treyen's head if he so much as said something about what ever he was shaking his head about.

And it WAS about Jake. He knew it.

Jake was putting sand in Treyen's bed later. Yup.

Ellie did not like this. She felt ill. Literally ill. She was considering visiting Moretti after class.

Her position had not changed. She was still shaking. Her limbs were still crossed over each other. Her eyes were unfocused, and so was her brain. She had no idea what was going on in class. All she could think about was how much she did NOT want to be here.

It all felt too foreign. Different teacher, different desk arrangement, different people. Well, she wasn't sure about that last one, but not the point.

And it was HOT. Was it always hot in this class? Or is it just under these circumstances. Probably the latter, considering she was shivering simultaneously. Huh.

She chewed her lip. More than anything at this moment, even more than leaving class, she wanted to STOP thinking about the way she felt things ought to be. Because that was why the tears were coming. And she did NOT want to cry in public. Yet, occasionally, a tear was dripping from her eye. But no one would notice, right? She had her head turned from the majority of the class, so all was good, hopefully.

Heather had no idea what was going on. Her strongsuite definitely wasn't divination but she paid attention anyway.

Emmaleigh nodded her head, took some notes on the two types of divination. It was all quite interesting. Hearing the request for a type of artificial divination, the girl raised her hand before saying, "Rune casting" She smiled thinking about the idea. it would be so cool to have a lesson on that topic since it combined her two favorite classes.

Isobel had been to Divination at Beaubaxtons, but it was never her strong suit. Arithmancy was more her speed. Wait-Isobel raised her hand. "Professor, isn't Arithmany a form of Divination?" Or didn't she mean that? Ah well, it couldn't hurt to ask.