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Old 01-12-2011, 02:18 AM
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Once you arrive to the Divination classroom, you enter to find what looks like a standard classroom setup. Desks arranged in the center of the room, facing Professor Bishop's desk and organized into pairs, look toward a charmed blackboard which currently simply says "Divination Lesson 1" in a graceful cursive. A good-sized bookshelf is against the right-hand wall and contains a large amount of small fabric-wrapped shapes.

Professor Bishop is seated at her desk, writing on something, the wooden box from her office moved to the desk in here, but she's still aware of the room. Don't think she isn't, just because she looks occupied with other things.

Feel free to take a seat, talk quietly, get your things ready and class will start shortly.


Feel free to post your character entering, speaking to each other or the professor. I'll check in when I can, so don't go overboard, and the lesson will begin tomorrow.
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But at that, she decided it may as well be time to start class. As long as nobody interrupted, she'd be fine. "Well, I guess I'll just get started then," she said quietly to herself, before moving to stand in front of her desk. "Welcome, all of you. Obviously, as you all know, this is Divination, and I'm Professor Bishop," she said to the room as a whole, then. "While I'm sure you all know the basics, there's a chance some of you don't know all of them, so that's where we'll begin." Glancing back at the chalkborad, she watched as the words vanished, preparing for what would be next. "If anyone wants to offer anything to start, feel free. You can say what you might already know, anything like that. It's good to know, but I'd also like someone to tell me what Divination is." Start at the beginning, work from there. Always a good place.
Damian raised her hand as a habit and immediately dropped it with a loud smash against the table. Not bothered by pain or sound, she hurried to answer:
"Divination is magic which attempts to foresee future events. Many consider this branch of magic to be imprecise at best. There are several types of Divination. The most imprecise is type known as "fortunetelling," also reading tea leaves, palmistry, crystal balls, astrology, and more. The second kind of Divination is practiced by the centaurs. In their view, divination is far more useful for predicting large changes than day-to-day events. The third type of Divination is called Seeing. This is true Divination, although what the Seer reveals is usually in the form of a prophecy. True Seeing is very rare." A deep breath. Damian was gloating inside. "It's quite a grate subject to develop..."

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Parke raised his hand, pleased that he knew the answer to this question, at least. He had done a bit of general studying on the topic before class. "Divination, stemming from the latin 'divinare', is the art of gaining insight into a situation or problem of some kind, through use of a certain object, ritual, or combination of the two. It allows you information you would not ordinarily have access to."
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Simon looked at the Professor and raised his hands. "Divination is something that helps you clear your mind and make you able to see the future, well sometimes you can." Simon smiled, he had no idea if this was right but he was hopefull it was he had been studying the subject over the summer.
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Wondering if she should just start everything now, Renée was distracted by the whirling dervish that sped into the room, before slowing to reveal it was yet another student. A very hyper student, at that. "Good morning," she replied, once she'd decided it was simple hyperactivity and not anything else. "Why don't you try and find a seat, and we'll get things going soon." If he could manage to sit still. As far as she could tell, that might be questionable, but at least it might also be entertaining.

But at that, she decided it may as well be time to start class. As long as nobody interrupted, she'd be fine. "Well, I guess I'll just get started then," she said quietly to herself, before moving to stand in front of her desk. "Welcome, all of you. Obviously, as you all know, this is Divination, and I'm Professor Bishop," she said to the room as a whole, then. "While I'm sure you all know the basics, there's a chance some of you don't know all of them, so that's where we'll begin." Glancing back at the chalkborad, she watched as the words vanished, preparing for what would be next. "If anyone wants to offer anything to start, feel free. You can say what you might already know, anything like that. It's good to know, but I'd also like someone to tell me what Divination is." Start at the beginning, work from there. Always a good place.


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The Gryffindor grinned goofily as The professor spoke to him. She was a PREEETTY new professor too. Straightening up a little taller, he adjusted his messanger bag, and spoke. "If you say so," he shrugged, bounding away from the teacher, and towards an empty seat.

As he sat, he placed the bag on the desk and openned it, searching for his book. Errrrrr... Looks like someone had snuck him a surprise this morning. Extra sweets for later. The boy smirked, leaving the various candies in the bag for the off chance that he'd lose his initial hyperness, and pulled out the book, placing it on his desk clumsily.

Jayce watched as the professor moved towards her desk and begun class. And now she was asking questions. Ermmm.. Divination.. He'd never exactly enjoyed the course and wasn't particularly good at it..

Right. Time to answer.

The boy raised his hand waving it back and forth in the air. He had no clue what he was going to say, but hopefully once he was called on it would come out somewhat intelligent.

As he was called on, he quickly put his hand down, and opened up his mouth. "Well, Divination is.. it's kind of like predicting stuff.. right? But it's more complicated than that. It can come from various things around you, yes? For example.. you can do a prediction based on tea.. orr.. the clouds in the sky. Right?"

Kinda? Maybe? Sorta? He shut up then, swaying slightly in his chair to the music that only he could hear in his head.
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Pandora raised her hand. "Divination is a way to gain insight to questions or situations by way of rituals. Some examples of Divination are Taromancy, tasseomancy, and cleromancy." She said. "It was and still is practiced among Shamans, Pagans, Wiccans, and in places like Africa where the people are still in touch with their ancestral roots."
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Satine shot her hand up in the air, "Professor, Divination is like making the unknown known..." then paused...that made sense to her but she decided to explain further, "It's the discovery of things hidden in the past, the present, or the future by the interpretation of signs and symbols and stuff."
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Always the same start to every year in every subject - a definition of key terms or core tenets. Though some might find it redundant, Bennet actually enjoyed the consistency. Everyone starts on somewhat equal footing with the most basic of information.

Raising his hand to contribute to the conversation, Bennet added, "Foretelling the future using any one of a vast number of different methods and materials as decided by the divinor. These methods and materials are systematic means with which to organize what appear to be random components of existence."
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Eino listened to everyone else's responses, but they all sounded like parrots in a vast room, that is repeating each other and speaking over their echoes. He dipped his quill in the ink bottle and wrote down. Divination, the art of foretelling the future. One would suppose it would require painting or sculpturing the future, but it wasn't that sort of art, or at least he hoped not. "Professor," He began with his hand in the air "Divination is only presumption, correct?" He had heard that most Diviners and Soothsayers were frauds and that Divination was often inaccurate. "Also, I heard that Muggles, most notably the Greeks, practice Divination through what they consider to be 'divine beings,' such as the Greek gods and goddesses, that show them prophecies and the future, is this true? Is their form of soothsaying accurate?" This led him to a series of other questions, but someone else began speaking before he could continue, which was for the better, otherwise he would never shut up.
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But at that, she decided it may as well be time to start class. As long as nobody interrupted, she'd be fine. "Well, I guess I'll just get started then," she said quietly to herself, before moving to stand in front of her desk. "Welcome, all of you. Obviously, as you all know, this is Divination, and I'm Professor Bishop," she said to the room as a whole, then. "While I'm sure you all know the basics, there's a chance some of you don't know all of them, so that's where we'll begin." Glancing back at the chalkborad, she watched as the words vanished, preparing for what would be next. "If anyone wants to offer anything to start, feel free. You can say what you might already know, anything like that. It's good to know, but I'd also like someone to tell me what Divination is." Start at the beginning, work from there. Always a good place.[/COLOR]

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Lexi knew what SHE thought Divination was... probably not appropriate to say it was the most useless magical learning EVER. She might offend... Raising her hand she said, "Uuuh... Divination is magical readings of tea leaves... dream interpretations... stuff like that. Magic that tells the future or something about the inner eye..." SOunded about right to her.

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"Thanks," she said, sitting down beside Lexi. It would be good to be sitting beside someone that she knew, and liked. Because although Evangeline would do her very best with every class, Lexi might be a bit more interesting.
Lexi looked over to Evangeline and smiled but also gave a little shrug of sorts. Who knew. She never grasped Divination... even when Kapoor taught it and he was her fave. Still spoke with him often. He and his wife. Hehe.
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Snickering, her gaze moved past her Slytherin friend and to a rather tall boy who just entered the room. Was he ever going to stop growing? She was beginning to actually feel short next to him, and she rarely thought about her own height unless someone brought it up.

"Lemur boy. Looking quite...prefect-y today." she grinned, closing her notebook of doodles and leaning back in her seat as Patroclus sat down near them.

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Narrowing her eyes at Evelyn slightly, she walked around her desk and sat down, deciding she was not going to mention she was not the one who ripped the spider leg off. Evelyn did it! She already knew! Noticing Patroclus enter the room, wearing his Prefect badge, Destiny couldn't help but grin and when he sat next to them, she leaned in a little closer.

"Evelyn ripped a spider's leg off. You're a Prefect, do something."
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Joshua Carter was quite cheerful as he climbed the stairs to the Divination classroom because this class was his favourite. Hehe. When he stepped inside the class, he happily waved at the professor ''Hello professor!'' Since divination class was his favourite class, divination professor was his favourite professor.

Right after spotting Evelyn, Destiny and Patroclus, he walked towards them and chose a seat near them. While he sat down he nodded at his friends and girlfriend then moved a little to make sure that no one was blocking his sight of the professor.
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Hello Professor? MEEP! She knew that voice rather well. Which meant, both Gryffindors were in the class! Especially the one which she had been waiting for for like five minutes now.

Looking towards the desk in front of them, the Slytherin smiled before moving up one seat to sit next to Josh. Well, they were all pretty much seated together anyways, their little group that is, but now she was just sitting next to him. Him who...was paying rather good attention to the Professor. Huh. When did he become so studious?

Hmmm?

OMG! That's what her dad used to say to her. Something about spiders being more scared of them then they are of...them...

Or something.



Smiling over to Josh, the Slytherin looked forward once it seemed the Professor was starting to talk to the whole class in general, already feeling as though she'd been sitting there for over an hour. Yes, this was going to be a long class.


Patroclus couldn't help but smile.

He had missed this, Evelyn and Destiny, best friends but always at odds with each other. "I think you mean, looking perfect today!" he smiled at Evelyn, as Josh sat just near them, "Hey Josh," he grinned. In a very expected move, Evelyn slid from her seat and moved to one next to her boyfriend, leaving Patroclus and Destiny at their table.

"See just look, she is so scared of my badge that she went running," he whispered, "Don't even need to tell her off about killing the spider!"

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As yet another student entered, Renée sent him a smile from the front of the room. At least it seemed she had prefects in the room, if things got too crazy. She was still hoping to keep control however. "Good morning, Mr Hudson," she replied, doing the slightest bit of checking on the name. "I hope so as well, and same to yourself." Not to mention the steadily growing crowd in the room. The stronger hope was that something wasn't planned that she was unaware of, that this many people didn't think she'd go down in flames. She wasn't planning to, even if she had to be like her phoenix. They weren't going to scare her away.
But at that, she decided it may as well be time to start class. As long as nobody interrupted, she'd be fine. "Well, I guess I'll just get started then," she said quietly to herself, before moving to stand in front of her desk. "Welcome, all of you. Obviously, as you all know, this is Divination, and I'm Professor Bishop," she said to the room as a whole, then. "While I'm sure you all know the basics, there's a chance some of you don't know all of them, so that's where we'll begin." Glancing back at the chalkborad, she watched as the words vanished, preparing for what would be next. "If anyone wants to offer anything to start, feel free. You can say what you might already know, anything like that. It's good to know, but I'd also like someone to tell me what Divination is." Start at the beginning, work from there. Always a good place.[/COLOR]


Still grinning proudly, Patroclus turned his head towards the Professor as she began the lesson. Listening to the others around him, Patroclus thought he would help with a definition of his own.

"Divinations is a noble art, that one uses to ascertain information, or educated guesses about certain elements of the past, the present and most often the future." He nodded, "There are a variety of tools that one can use in Divinations to discover this information, such as smoked, entrails, cards, palms and tea leaves."

Patroclus still remembered the lesson from the last two term with Professor Nolan, especially the cloud gazing one, which Patroclus still held the conviction that Evelyn had charmed the sky.
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Charley walked into the Divination classroom. Most of the other students had already nabbed their seats, and she was surprised to see that the room looked very....normal.
Thank goodness, she thought. A classroom that looks like the ones in school back home. Save for the charmed blackboard, that is, of course. Pretty cursive, too. It looks a lot like Mum's.
Charley chose a desk on the right side of the class, near the bookshelf, that didn't have a student sitting in the one adjacent to it. Professor Bishop had arranged the desks into pairs, so she wanted to reduce her risk of being around any gossip. Or giggling, for that matter.
"Hello, Professor Bishop," she greeted her teacher, sitting down and taking out her notebook, ink and quill, as well as a few jellybeans from the Bertie Bott's package she'd stashed in her bag, which she popped into her mouth one by one. She was still peeved that her Charms class had turned into an ogling session for most of the other girls. Apparently Professor Descoteaux was "sexy" and "dreamy".
It's not as if I was the only first-year either. How creepy is that? she thought, disappointed that there was no response from her brother.
Suffice to say, she was very relieved that she had another female Professor. And Divination sounded very interesting. It was one of the few things Henry had told her he was not good at. Lauren had sent a list in her first letter to Charley at school, of subjects that she was not good at-meaning she wasn't one of the top students in that class when she was at Hogwarts.
I will be, though. I'm off to a pretty successful start. I can definitely do this.
Waiting for answers to her question, Renée raised an eyebrow again as another student, a little Ravenclaw, chose to walk in late. Not only that, but she didn't really even seem to notice that she had, which made her sigh inwardly. Why did it have to be a Ravenclaw? "Good morning. It was nice of you to join us, but unfortunately you are late. One point from Ravenclaw," she replied, still inwardly flinching. Hopefully the girl would catch up with the lesson.

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Hello Professor? MEEP! She knew that voice rather well. Which meant, both Gryffindors were in the class! Especially the one which she had been waiting for for like five minutes now.

Looking towards the desk in front of them, the Slytherin smiled before moving up one seat to sit next to Josh. Well, they were all pretty much seated together anyways, their little group that is, but now she was just sitting next to him. Him who...was paying rather good attention to the Professor. Huh. When did he become so studious?

Hmmm?

OMG! That's what her dad used to say to her. Something about spiders being more scared of them then they are of...them...

Or something.



Smiling over to Josh, the Slytherin looked forward once it seemed the Professor was starting to talk to the whole class in general, already feeling as though she'd been sitting there for over an hour. Yes, this was going to be a long class.

Especially if they were only going over the basics.

But, what better way to make herself stay awake then to answer questions? "Divination is the..." What. "...attempt, I guess you can put it, to foresee into future events or gain answers from questions that you may need guidance on, using...various tools."

Tools being things like FIRE!
"You could put it that way, Evelyn," Renée agreed, sensing a preparation for boredom from the Slytherin. "It's not quite entirely correct, but one point anyway." It was the general forms of Divination she used, and what they'd discuss more in depth in class. But it wasn't exactly what Divination was.

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Once Bishop was done talking, Jake raised his hand. What he wanted to say was how TERRIBLE he was at this subject... but he settled with something else. "Well, like the name suggests, I guess Divination is... divining. That's usually what some kind of god-like dude does, and a kind of omniscient thing. So... it's... getting information I guess from natural occurances."

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Maybe.
Renée nodded at the comment about her name from Jake, keeping the train of thought on present topics instead of going backward. It seemed he had the same idea, and she gave him a smile for his response. "You don't necessarily need to be omniscient, but yes. You can use natural occurrences for divination," she replied. "One point."

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Damian raised her hand as a habit and immediately dropped it with a loud smash against the table. Not bothered by pain or sound, she hurried to answer:
"Divination is magic which attempts to foresee future events. Many consider this branch of magic to be imprecise at best. There are several types of Divination. The most imprecise is type known as "fortunetelling," also reading tea leaves, palmistry, crystal balls, astrology, and more. The second kind of Divination is practiced by the centaurs. In their view, divination is far more useful for predicting large changes than day-to-day events. The third type of Divination is called Seeing. This is true Divination, although what the Seer reveals is usually in the form of a prophecy. True Seeing is very rare." A deep breath. Damian was gloating inside. "It's quite a grate subject to develop..."
Eyes widened at the loud sound of a hand slamming back onto a desk, but Renée simply turned her attention to the disheveled Slytherin as the girl spoke. "True. And we'll discuss the various types in a moment," she replied with a brief nod. "One point." She went on to address the latter comment as well, though. "It is definitely a good subject to develop." It always was developing, too.

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Parke raised his hand, pleased that he knew the answer to this question, at least. He had done a bit of general studying on the topic before class. "Divination, stemming from the latin 'divinare', is the art of gaining insight into a situation or problem of some kind, through use of a certain object, ritual, or combination of the two. It allows you information you would not ordinarily have access to."
Renée smiled as she heard a bit more of a detailed response. Somebody had done the reading. "Yes," she said simply. "Thank you for that bit of etymological background, and divination certainly does allow information to be known outside of the normal routes. One point."

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Simon looked at the Professor and raised his hands. "Divination is something that helps you clear your mind and make you able to see the future, well sometimes you can." Simon smiled, he had no idea if this was right but he was hopefull it was he had been studying the subject over the summer.
Renée let a little smile creep onto her face at the next answer she was given as well. Just at the tentativeness, really, not to mention she had a feeling he wasn't entirely aware of the misstep. "Not quite, as clearing your mind is another study. But divination can help you see the future. So one point." He hadn't been entirely off, after all.

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The Gryffindor grinned goofily as The professor spoke to him. She was a PREEETTY new professor too. Straightening up a little taller, he adjusted his messanger bag, and spoke. "If you say so," he shrugged, bounding away from the teacher, and towards an empty seat.

As he sat, he placed the bag on the desk and openned it, searching for his book. Errrrrr... Looks like someone had snuck him a surprise this morning. Extra sweets for later. The boy smirked, leaving the various candies in the bag for the off chance that he'd lose his initial hyperness, and pulled out the book, placing it on his desk clumsily.

Jayce watched as the professor moved towards her desk and begun class. And now she was asking questions. Ermmm.. Divination.. He'd never exactly enjoyed the course and wasn't particularly good at it..

Right. Time to answer.

The boy raised his hand waving it back and forth in the air. He had no clue what he was going to say, but hopefully once he was called on it would come out somewhat intelligent.

As he was called on, he quickly put his hand down, and opened up his mouth. "Well, Divination is.. it's kind of like predicting stuff.. right? But it's more complicated than that. It can come from various things around you, yes? For example.. you can do a prediction based on tea.. orr.. the clouds in the sky. Right?"

Kinda? Maybe? Sorta? He shut up then, swaying slightly in his chair to the music that only he could hear in his head.
Renée tried not to grin as the hyper boy simply continued his animatedness, but the fact she was trying to keep class moving helped immensely. She'd watched as he'd taken his book out and everything, though. "True. Divination can be, as you say, 'kind of like predicting stuff.' Among other things." You could learn so much more than predictions, if you did things right. "One point." She just hoped he could concentrate longer.

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Pandora raised her hand. "Divination is a way to gain insight to questions or situations by way of rituals. Some examples of Divination are Taromancy, tasseomancy, and cleromancy." She said. "It was and still is practiced among Shamans, Pagans, Wiccans, and in places like Africa where the people are still in touch with their ancestral roots."
"True once again," Renée said with a nod and a smile. Another student who'd done some reading. "And thank you for those examples, although I'll say we won't be discussing all of them this term" That would take much too long, and besides, not every form was easy to teach fully. "One point."

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Satine shot her hand up in the air, "Professor, Divination is like making the unknown known..." then paused...that made sense to her but she decided to explain further, "It's the discovery of things hidden in the past, the present, or the future by the interpretation of signs and symbols and stuff."
she said with a little nod.
Renée grinned as Satine shot her hand up, then seemed to second guess herself a little. "Yes. One point," she replied, before continuing to the class as a whole. "Divination not only is used to 'tell the future.' It can be used to discover many other aspects of life, history, whatever you want to learn. If done correctly." And that was the important part. One had to do things correctly to truly divine anything.

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Raising his hand to contribute to the conversation, Bennet added, "Foretelling the future using any one of a vast number of different methods and materials as decided by the divinor. These methods and materials are systematic means with which to organize what appear to be random components of existence."
Renée nodded as she got yet another contribution to the discussion. "Of course. Systems are integral to many forms of Divination," she replied. Unless you went into the more ephemeral aspects of Divination. Predictions, Seers, things like that. Those often used symbolism, but there was little that was systematic about them in the beginning. "One point."

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Eino listened to everyone else's responses, but they all sounded like parrots in a vast room, that is repeating each other and speaking over their echoes. He dipped his quill in the ink bottle and wrote down. Divination, the art of foretelling the future. One would suppose it would require painting or sculpturing the future, but it wasn't that sort of art, or at least he hoped not. "Professor," He began with his hand in the air "Divination is only presumption, correct?" He had heard that most Diviners and Soothsayers were frauds and that Divination was often inaccurate. "Also, I heard that Muggles, most notably the Greeks, practice Divination through what they consider to be 'divine beings,' such as the Greek gods and goddesses, that show them prophecies and the future, is this true? Is their form of soothsaying accurate?" This led him to a series of other questions, but someone else began speaking before he could continue, which was for the better, otherwise he would never shut up.
Renée looked up as it seemed they had at least one sceptic in their midst, and she smiled as he posed his questions. "Not entirely, but take a point for showing the opposite side of the argument," she said. "That is definitely one view of Divination, however, and comes into being when people misuse it." And that was what everyone else had to fight against. The frauds who abused divination for monetary or entertainment purposes. "The Greeks looked to their gods for much more than just divinatory help, but yes. In its own way, I would say their practices were accurate. Have you ever heard any of the predictions received from the ancient Greek oracles?," she asked, before moving on. They could go back to that later.

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Lexi knew what SHE thought Divination was... probably not appropriate to say it was the most useless magical learning EVER. She might offend... Raising her hand she said, "Uuuh... Divination is magical readings of tea leaves... dream interpretations... stuff like that. Magic that tells the future or something about the inner eye..." SOunded about right to her.



Lexi looked over to Evangeline and smiled but also gave a little shrug of sorts. Who knew. She never grasped Divination... even when Kapoor taught it and he was her fave. Still spoke with him often. He and his wife. Hehe.
And another person who wasn't a fan. Renée gave her a little nod, and silently gave her a point, as the girl at least tried to avoid outward derision. "It can be. Even if you don't think there's much use for it," she replied with a smile. "More the inner self than the inner eye, however. The inner eye is simply a construct explaining how diviners understand what they see." Hopefully she could make even the tiniest impact on her beliefs by the end of term.

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Still grinning proudly, Patroclus turned his head towards the Professor as she began the lesson. Listening to the others around him, Patroclus thought he would help with a definition of his own.

"Divinations is a noble art, that one uses to ascertain information, or educated guesses about certain elements of the past, the present and most often the future." He nodded, "There are a variety of tools that one can use in Divinations to discover this information, such as smoked, entrails, cards, palms and tea leaves."

Patroclus still remembered the lesson from the last two term with Professor Nolan, especially the cloud gazing one, which Patroclus still held the conviction that Evelyn had charmed the sky.
Renée smiled yet again as she turned back from glancing at the board to see if it was writing things down. "Lofty words, Mr. Hudson. One point," she replied. "But yes, divination involves a healthy amount of interpretation from hints given by objects, tools, or symbols. Those and many other things can be used in Divination, for any number of forms of information. Unfortunately we won't be using any entrails in this lesson however." Or at all, as that was a bit out of her wheelhouse.


Moving the discussion along, she looked out at the classroom as a whole yet again. "Now that we've gotten a basic idea of what Divination is, I'd like to see if anyone knows the answer to this. Ancient peoples generally separated Divination into at least two types. Each encompassing many forms within, but can anyone give me those classifications?" Or anything even close. She knew what she was after, but there was the possibility the texts gave slightly different information, not to mention she didn't know what all the students might have read beyond the textbook.
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"It is a discipline that attempts to foresee the future or to gather some insight on events in the future with perhaps different tools and rituals," said Pandora after raising her hand. She lowered soon after, clasping her hands in front of her on her desk.
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Satine didn't really hate classes because well she was a nerd, but a pretty cutie patootie nerd...but back to what she was thinking...she didn't really hate classes but she did dislike Divination. I mean she understood it and followed it and such but she had never really seen much truth in it, but it was a requirement so she headed to class.

When she entered she noticed that desks were paired up. As she walked in searching for a desk she introduced herself to the Professor, "Howzit, Professor. I'm Satine Farris, Sixth Year Ravvie. I hope you had a great break!"

She glanced around the classroom and saw an empty spot beside Dallin and paused for a moment debating if she should sit by him or not. She didn't want to seem needy or annoying so she made the decision to sit at the pair of desks across from him not at the desk paired directly with him. You never knew who might want to sit by her...right...

She sat down and pulled out her rainbow quill that made taking notes more entertaining and a purple notebook with a butterfly on the front of it and set them on her desk.

Satine glanced over at Dal with a smile and then opened her notebook and began writing on the first page. Then she tore the page out and folded it up and passed it to Dallin with a mischievous smile. As she handed it to him, she whispered, "for your eyes only..." with raised eyebrows trying to convince him that it was muy importante.

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A dark eyebrow raised infinitesimally as Renée saw the silent shudder of the Ravenclaw boy who entered. There was definitely a bit of curiosity as to where that had come from, but she wasn't about to call him out in front of the others in class. Perhaps later, although the smile she gave him as he spoke was just as curious. That smile could be a ruse, and she wasn't about to take it for granted as otherwise. "Good morning, Mr. McKinley," she replied instead, simply. Setting her pen down finally as she decided she wasn't going to get much more work done.

As the next girl entered, Renée was both surprised and not surprised by the brightness. Of the girl's hair, of her demeanor. It seemed there were all kinds at Hogwarts, which was the exciting part of the Wizarding world. Along with the many things that could be learned. "Good morning, Miss Farris. Pleasure to meet you, and in fact my break was quite lovely," she replied with a smile, watching as Satine seemed to go through some consideration as to where she should sit. And as she chose, Renée kept watching. It seemed the bright girl knew Dallin, at least. "Be careful with the note passing. You don't want to risk the wrong person getting hold of them," she warned, before going back to waiting for others to arrive.
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Satine smiled at the Professor. Wow she was nice and Satine loved loved loved nice peeps! She glanced back up when the Professor mentioned the note, "O trust me Professor this note is more than harmless...it's kind of useless actually." she said reassuring the Professor.
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A quiet laugh escaped her as Satine chose to respond to the warning about note-passing. More at the wording than the intent, but Renée nodded. "That's good to hear, but I'd still be careful." It was fine for now, but once things got moving, rules would need to be followed. A matter of distractions and all, and notes could be just that.

But at that, she decided it may as well be time to start class. As long as nobody interrupted, she'd be fine. "Well, I guess I'll just get started then," she said quietly to herself, before moving to stand in front of her desk. "Welcome, all of you. Obviously, as you all know, this is Divination, and I'm Professor Bishop," she said to the room as a whole, then. "While I'm sure you all know the basics, there's a chance some of you don't know all of them, so that's where we'll begin." Glancing back at the chalkborad, she watched as the words vanished, preparing for what would be next. "If anyone wants to offer anything to start, feel free. You can say what you might already know, anything like that. It's good to know, but I'd also like someone to tell me what Divination is." Start at the beginning, work from there. Always a good place.
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Dallin gave Satine a smile as she sat down in front of him. He raised an eyebrow questioningly, but just as he read it, the professor saw it. He looked up at her innocently, wondering if her words were a warning to not pass notes. She didn't seem angry about it, but he decided it was better not to chance it, and he didn't pass a note back. He did smile slightly, though, at Satine's reply to the warning. Yeah, it was completely harmless.

At the question, he raised a hand. "Divination is trying to see the future, mostly, right? To know what's going to come. I know that there's a lot of different ways you can do so, like tea leaves and Astronomy and stuff." Not the best answer, but at least it was something.[/COLOR]
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Alice thought carefully before she answered and then raised her hand “Divination is…well it is basically telling or seeing into the future using a number of different methods. There are actually forms of Divination in the muggle world, they have monthly or daily horoscopes in their newspapers and things like fortune cookies in Chinese restaurants, Although not much of it actually works. But then people are sceptical of divination in our world."
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Alex looked at Treyen and smiled. They'd have a chance to talk after the lesson. Instead he focused his attention on the text, trying to find an answer to the question the professor had asked. Divination used a lot of BIG words, and he didn't have the slightest clue what any of them meant.

He raised his hand and decided to just give it his best shot. "Erm, are they split into how you go about getting an interpretation? Like, some forms you throw things like bones and look at their pattern and stuff, and others you just stare at it until you see something. Like crystal balls," he explained.

That sounded really confusing to him and he had probably confused the professor too. He lowered his hand and blushed, waiting to see what her reply was.
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Parke thought for a moment about the professor's next question. Hadn't there been three types? Frowning, he tried to remember what exactly he'd read. Finally, he raised his hand, still slightly unsure.

"There's...well... Cleromancy, in which an object is cast, and the outcome is determined by the way the object falls." He paused. It made way more sense in his head. "Like tea leaf reading, I suppose. The other, augery, determines which possible outcome, when there are many, is most likely. Like determining a most likely path one will take with the use of card reading." Merlin, he hoped he was at least partially right.
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Renée nodded at the comment about her name from Jake, keeping the train of thought on present topics instead of going backward. It seemed he had the same idea, and she gave him a smile for his response. "You don't necessarily need to be omniscient, but yes. You can use natural occurrences for divination," she replied. "One point."



Moving the discussion along, she looked out at the classroom as a whole yet again. "Now that we've gotten a basic idea of what Divination is, I'd like to see if anyone knows the answer to this. Ancient peoples generally separated Divination into at least two types. Each encompassing many forms within, but can anyone give me those classifications?" Or anything even close. She knew what she was after, but there was the possibility the texts gave slightly different information, not to mention she didn't know what all the students might have read beyond the textbook.
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Tyrone put his hand in the air before answering. "The types of Divination. Well it could be Earthly and Heavenly, right? I mean, Earthly because it uses things that we can find on the Earth, being things like tea leaves, smoke form fires 'nd stuff. And Heavenly because we can use the stars and the alignment of the planets to foresee things too"
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Renée looked up as it seemed they had at least one sceptic in their midst, and she smiled as he posed his questions. "Not entirely, but take a point for showing the opposite side of the argument," she said. "That is definitely one view of Divination, however, and comes into being when people misuse it." And that was what everyone else had to fight against. The frauds who abused divination for monetary or entertainment purposes. "The Greeks looked to their gods for much more than just divinatory help, but yes. In its own way, I would say their practices were accurate. Have you ever heard any of the predictions received from the ancient Greek oracles?," she asked, before moving on. They could go back to that later.

Moving the discussion along, she looked out at the classroom as a whole yet again. "Now that we've gotten a basic idea of what Divination is, I'd like to see if anyone knows the answer to this. Ancient peoples generally separated Divination into at least two types. Each encompassing many forms within, but can anyone give me those classifications?" Or anything even close. She knew what she was after, but there was the possibility the texts gave slightly different information, not to mention she didn't know what all the students might have read beyond the textbook.


Eino had heard of a very popular oracle but he didn't know too much about it. "I have heard of the Pee-Thee-Ah." With his arm raised, he pronounced it very carefully and very awkwardly, and his Finnish accent actually took effect when he did so, which was very rare. "Also known as the Oracle of Delphi," that second one was easier to pronounce, he thought, "which were prophecies." Divination didn't sound too bad after all, so long as they discussed such things as historical importances of Divination and not drink tea to read tea leaves he would enjoy the class. Two categories? Eino knew of one type of Divination but didn't know if it would answer the Professor's question. Raising his hand he said, "Is Cleromancy one of them, Professor?"
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He doubted that his answer would be correct, but as he couldn't think of any major subdivision of Divination, he suggested with a raised hand, "Perhaps celestial versus terrestrial? Heavenly bodies versus bones or sticks, etc." Bennet continued to contemplate the question, but was coming up short.
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Moving the discussion along, she looked out at the classroom as a whole yet again. "Now that we've gotten a basic idea of what Divination is, I'd like to see if anyone knows the answer to this. Ancient peoples generally separated Divination into at least two types. Each encompassing many forms within, but can anyone give me those classifications?" Or anything even close. She knew what she was after, but there was the possibility the texts gave slightly different information, not to mention she didn't know what all the students might have read beyond the textbook.
Simon looked at the Professor and put his hands up. "are the two types, truthful and the untruthful people." Simon wasn't sure about the idea but that what he would class them at because they are those who are true divination people and thoughs who aren't."
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