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As the students walk into the classroom, they will notice that the desks are pushed back slightly to the outskirts of the room making room for a little bit more of a comfortable seating area. Cushions and pillows are scatted around for them to sit on. To the front of the classroom, a small table with three empty plates is set up and just behind it the blackboard.

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To side of the room, Professor Welton is a thumbing through a small book. What could she be possible looking up? Perhaps only time will tell.

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"Magic's origin is not completely known for sure, but it is safe to say that its history dates way beyond Merlin himself. Now, can we name some example of magic before Merlin's time or around then?"
Eyeing the brownie and cupcake she'd retrieved from the plates, Grayson had sort of missed the last few questions. She'd noticed the discussion, just in her attempt at deciding which to eat first, she'd neglected to offer her own suggestion. But now she nommed the brownie, and once she'd swallowed, she looked up at the professor with a grin. Yay chocolate. Even though it sort of made her remember the icky food from DADA. At least this was yummy, not all moldy and stuff. And the class wasn't either, not really.

"What about Stonehenge? That's been around a long time, and nobody can quite figure out how it was made. There's stories that Merlin used magic, though," she said, raising her hand. In her head, it was either that or the alien theory as to how those rocks had been lifted up like that. But they weren't talking about aliens right now, so magic it was. And now she'd go back to her brownie until the discussion moved on. Glancing at Evelyn as she complained about Jacob. Not her business.
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"Magic's origin is not completely known for sure, but it is safe to say that its history dates way beyond Merlin himself. Now, can we name some example of magic before Merlin's time or around then?"
Louisa swallowed the brownies she was so busy chewing slooowly as not to miss any GREATNESS of the chocolate it contained and then raised her hand. "The Egyptians used special curses to protect the treasures in those tombs." Oh and by the way, "I don't know if that's before Merlin's time or not." The little girl pondered for a second and then added, "As a matter of fact I don't know who Merlin is." Well, yeah she wasn't that familiar with such Historical names. This Merlin guy would be an inventor of some spell right? right?!
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Brownies, cupcakes and carrots oh my! Fletcher wanted them all! Beaming at the professor, the boy hopped up to the plates, stuffed a brownie in his mouth, and then took two cupcakes in one hand and about four stacked brownies in the other.

"Fanks, professurrrr," he muttered through his full mouth, spewing brownie crumbs everywhere. "Mmmmm." He flopped back down onto his cushion and happily ate away as the other students answered.

Hmm, so magic before Merlin's time.... or around Merlin's time. Merlin, Fletcher hadn't ever really thought of the magician whose name he used as a curse on a regular basis. Merlin, MERLIN! Mother of Merlin! Merlin's mouthwash!

Who was this mysterious Merlin person, eh? HMMM? Fletcher's eyes narrowed as he swallowed his first brownie and started unwrapping the little cupcake wrapper, trying to think of where he'd last seen the name Merlin. Merlin Merlin Merlin. Well he didn't know about magic before Merlin, but he certainly knew of magic during Merlin's time. He'd SEEN it, at his Muggle mother's house with his step-siblings!

"FACT," Fletcher spoke up, waving his cupcake in lieu of his hand. "During Merlin's time, Merlin once transfigured himself and a young King Arthur into squirrels. And goldfish."
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Popping a brownie into her mouth Dianna thought of the question. It was hard to concentrate when you have something rather sweet inside your mouth.
"Somewhere around 1000 BC in Ancient Egypt, Professor." Dianna said. "Magic was recorded for the first time there.. And I guess another can be around 382 erm.. BC when Ollivander's began. I mean by that time wizards and witches were learning how to use magic through wand right?" Dianna said. Popping another brownie into her mouth she listened to the others.
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Kurumi raised her hand to answer the question with another question. "Professor, how are we classifying magic? I mean, imagine you are a prehistoric human and you see fire for the first time. Wouldn't you think that was magic? If we are counting that, then magic has been around as long as there has been intelligent life."
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Magic before Merlin's time? So something older than Merlin? the lad wondered, scratching his head and furrowing his brows as he listened to the class. Then he sat up on his desk and raised his hand "Uhm.... I think magic has been happening even before the Egyptians Professor, or even before Gandalf which by the way isnt even human.... I bet there was magic during the Dinosaur era, with their own Supreme Mugwump that leads over their own International Confederation of Magical Dinobeasts, and they probably had this big meeting where they were arguing and trying to out do each other right? Then this Supreme Dino Mugwump said 'I can out-magic you all!!!' and so he pulled his biggest, baddest spell then POOF!--they all vanished off the face of the Earth! And thats why nobody knows what really happened to the dinosaurs."
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Grabbing a brownie for herself, Sylvie took a seat atop one of the cushions. Everyone looked happy with the treats and happy students equal a happy class. Happy class equals happy professor.

Nomming on her brownie, she waited for everyone to settle back into their seats. "Okay class, time to begin. Keep helping yourself to the treats, the house elves will keep popping in more if we need them." She did need to remember to thank those house elves for all their help.

"Now, can anyone tell me when magic was first used? Or even when it was maybe first documented?"

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Ohh browniesss!! Carter helped himself to a few. He then returned to his seat.

Carter raised his hand. "Magic had to be widely used enough before Merlin since Ollivander's has been around since around 400 B.C." he offered. That made sense right? There had to be enough people to market to to start a wand-making business.
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Cass took a a brownie as she thought about her answer "Well, the King Arthur legend is an evidence of magic...as well as the Salem witch persecutions during the middle ages."
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Freya thought for a moment before raising her hand "Umm..I think magic has been happening since 50,000 B.C. I had had read in a muggle book that muggle Scientists believe that Prehistoric people who buried themselves in cave bears probably started magic. They probably did this as a magic rite (spell). The muggle scientists believe that the drawing and craving are a form of magic." she said and lowering her hand.
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Alice thought for a moment. "I would say very long ago, probably in the BC era. Magic may have been used before then, but I doubt they would have had the means to document it. I'm not sure if this is after BC but isn't it argued that they used magic to move huge boulders and such that were used to build monuments and everything?"

Alice wasn't bad at history, but boy it was difficult keeping track of what happened before or after what when it came to so far back in history.
"That is a good point as well, Alice. One point for you. Magic could have be used for any number of things in the past. But as you said, they never truly documented it so we are just left to wonder."
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YES! 2 points. The young blonde grinned now more comfortable in her situation.

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Trixie had an idea, something she had completely forgotten about before. She raised her hand again, now a great big smile stuck firmly on her face. "The Ancient Egyptians Professor" she started to answer. "Didn't they used to put curses on their tombs before they passed to stop anyone from breaking and entering and then stealing all their treasures and possessions" she continued. "Skeletons of Muggles had been found with like, extra heads and various other curse made problems from when people tried and failed at entering the Pyramids. What can only be described as the effect of a Wizard or Witch produced curse" she completed.

Wait! Was that before Merlin? Ah well it was a pretty detailed answer in her opinion even if it WAS wrong.
"Very good Trixie! Two more points. The ancient Egyptians are a great example of users of magic, before Merlin."

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Ooooh, treats? Well, Professor Welton sure knew how to get on the good side of her students.

Aiden walked on up to the three plates. Brownies, cupcakes, carrots. Hah. Awwh, the carrots made him think of Ella and her new-found taste for the vegetable. Ignoring the healthier choice, he took one of the brownies and thanked her before returning to his cushion on the floor.

When Magic was first used? Aiden opened his mouth, which was - at the moment - empty of any brownie bites, and was about to voice his opinion about magic probably starting with Merlin, but some other girl beat him to the punch. "My guess would be Merlin as well," he added, adjusting his position. "Although I can't say I know the exact time period in which it was first recorded."

Oh well. He didn't know, but that is why he was here, right? To learnnnn.

Hmmm, other wizards around Merlin's time.. would be.... "Morgan le Fay?" He wasn't sure if that was correct, for he was just going by the stories he had read about King Arthur, and Morgan le Fay was a witch, sooo..
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Lexi put her hand up and said, "Well we know that Morgana La Fay was also practicing magic at the same time as Merlin. But I think I agree with Alice that surely a lot of the older structures were probably built with magic. Like maybe the pyramids even."
"And two points to you as well Lexi. Morgana La Fay and Merlin did practice at the same time. They are two of the first magical people most people think of."
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OOOOH Jacob knew this one!!!! Oh Wait... no, never mind.

Oh Look, A Brownie!... "MINE!" he said and grabbed the brownie of the plate, and stuck in his mouth.

Jacob waited for the other answers, only like 3 people? Why were people so quiet? People should be as hyper as he is...

What Would Lainey do?

Jacob jumped up. "Its not that early! Wake up!" he whined at his class mates. "Alright! Were going to do laps and then get make to the discussion!" he yelled at them. "That means you too professor! 1, 2, 3, 4! 1, 2, 3, 4!" he started clapping his hands loudly like a drill sergeant would.
Raising an eye at the crazed little 'claw, she cleared her throat. "Jacob, do sit back down or you shall not have any more brownies. Perhaps the carrots would be a better treat for you?" There was time for activities later, but first they were going to talk first.
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WHO was that annoying dude that was interrupting her peaceful attempt to wake up!? Peaking open a black eye of hers, Evelyn half GLARED at the kid, having all intent of wishing it'd burn a hole through him to distract him enough to stay quiet, but apparently, she didn't have that sort of power. Guess she'd just put up with it, seeing as she was too lazy to silencio him. Hehe. Now THAT would be funny.

Or... "Professoooooor. He's interrupting my nap learning." Mwahaha! Now, back to her answer. "And I have a question. During the older days, did they have wands back then as well? If so, how did they know to create them? And if they didn't, were they just naturally good at wandless magic?"

And if so with THAT, how come they themselves nowadays weren't?
Shaking her head, she turned her attention to the young snake. "I believe young Jacob had just had too much sugar. He should calm down shortly and then maybe our learning will then continue." She didn't want to just punish the 'claw without giving him the chance to ratify his actions.

"Well, one could assume that wands were present back then considering how long Ollivander's has been around. We don't have true documentation of it, but I always thought that wands were just an extension of a witch or wizard's magic. So in theory, wouldn't a stick work as a wand? Very controversial I know but to each their own, right? Throughout time, I think that the magic community became accustom to wands and why we all connect magic with wands. I do think that before wands, there was a deal more wandless magic but these acts were probably deemed miracles or fates of the gods or something. People do find odd reasons to explain the unexplainable."
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He raised his hand. “What about Gandalf, Professor? Wasn't he, like, fighting balrogs waaay before Merlin came along?”

He was about to continue along the same vein and say something about Star Wars when a younger Ravenclaw appeared to go loopy. He let out a loud snicker, followed by his trademark dirty drainpipe laugh. The kid sounded just like Lainey.

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"Very good, Oliver. Two points. One should never limit themselves to just one region when thinking of magic." The Head Boy was one clever snake.
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Eyeing the brownie and cupcake she'd retrieved from the plates, Grayson had sort of missed the last few questions. She'd noticed the discussion, just in her attempt at deciding which to eat first, she'd neglected to offer her own suggestion. But now she nommed the brownie, and once she'd swallowed, she looked up at the professor with a grin. Yay chocolate. Even though it sort of made her remember the icky food from DADA. At least this was yummy, not all moldy and stuff. And the class wasn't either, not really.

"What about Stonehenge? That's been around a long time, and nobody can quite figure out how it was made. There's stories that Merlin used magic, though," she said, raising her hand. In her head, it was either that or the alien theory as to how those rocks had been lifted up like that. But they weren't talking about aliens right now, so magic it was. And now she'd go back to her brownie until the discussion moved on. Glancing at Evelyn as she complained about Jacob. Not her business.
"Stonehenge! Yes, that is a good example as well. Two points Grayson. Magic is truly immersed in that place if you ask me."
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Louisa swallowed the brownies she was so busy chewing slooowly as not to miss any GREATNESS of the chocolate it contained and then raised her hand. "The Egyptians used special curses to protect the treasures in those tombs." Oh and by the way, "I don't know if that's before Merlin's time or not." The little girl pondered for a second and then added, "As a matter of fact I don't know who Merlin is." Well, yeah she wasn't that familiar with such Historical names. This Merlin guy would be an inventor of some spell right? right?!
"Yes, the Egyptians are a great example. Points to you as well."
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Brownies, cupcakes and carrots oh my! Fletcher wanted them all! Beaming at the professor, the boy hopped up to the plates, stuffed a brownie in his mouth, and then took two cupcakes in one hand and about four stacked brownies in the other.

"Fanks, professurrrr," he muttered through his full mouth, spewing brownie crumbs everywhere. "Mmmmm." He flopped back down onto his cushion and happily ate away as the other students answered.

Hmm, so magic before Merlin's time.... or around Merlin's time. Merlin, Fletcher hadn't ever really thought of the magician whose name he used as a curse on a regular basis. Merlin, MERLIN! Mother of Merlin! Merlin's mouthwash!

Who was this mysterious Merlin person, eh? HMMM? Fletcher's eyes narrowed as he swallowed his first brownie and started unwrapping the little cupcake wrapper, trying to think of where he'd last seen the name Merlin. Merlin Merlin Merlin. Well he didn't know about magic before Merlin, but he certainly knew of magic during Merlin's time. He'd SEEN it, at his Muggle mother's house with his step-siblings!

"FACT," Fletcher spoke up, waving his cupcake in lieu of his hand. "During Merlin's time, Merlin once transfigured himself and a young King Arthur into squirrels. And goldfish."
"Welcome Fletcher," she replied with a smile. Yes, treats were a good idea for the most part then. "Oh, very nice example too. Two points for you!"

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Popping a brownie into her mouth Dianna thought of the question. It was hard to concentrate when you have something rather sweet inside your mouth.
"Somewhere around 1000 BC in Ancient Egypt, Professor." Dianna said. "Magic was recorded for the first time there.. And I guess another can be around 382 erm.. BC when Ollivander's began. I mean by that time wizards and witches were learning how to use magic through wand right?" Dianna said. Popping another brownie into her mouth she listened to the others.
"And another good example, one point to you Dianna."
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Kurumi raised her hand to answer the question with another question. "Professor, how are we classifying magic? I mean, imagine you are a prehistoric human and you see fire for the first time. Wouldn't you think that was magic? If we are counting that, then magic has been around as long as there has been intelligent life."
"That is a very interesting point, Kurumi. Two points to you. Like I said that would have been magic and humans could have just explained it as a miracle or a gift from the gods or something like that."
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Magic before Merlin's time? So something older than Merlin? the lad wondered, scratching his head and furrowing his brows as he listened to the class. Then he sat up on his desk and raised his hand "Uhm.... I think magic has been happening even before the Egyptians Professor, or even before Gandalf which by the way isnt even human.... I bet there was magic during the Dinosaur era, with their own Supreme Mugwump that leads over their own International Confederation of Magical Dinobeasts, and they probably had this big meeting where they were arguing and trying to out do each other right? Then this Supreme Dino Mugwump said 'I can out-magic you all!!!' and so he pulled his biggest, baddest spell then POOF!--they all vanished off the face of the Earth! And thats why nobody knows what really happened to the dinosaurs."
Sylvie shook her head and gave a tiny laugh. "Well that is another way of looking at it, Two points to you as well. I mean without documentation, anything is possible."
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"Wasnt it first named as magic in the arthurian legend"
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Ohh browniesss!! Carter helped himself to a few. He then returned to his seat.

Carter raised his hand. "Magic had to be widely used enough before Merlin since Ollivander's has been around since around 400 B.C." he offered. That made sense right? There had to be enough people to market to to start a wand-making business.
"Very true Carter, two points to you as well. magic must have been around if there was a need for wands. That touches on what Evelyn was asking before as well."
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Cass took a a brownie as she thought about her answer "Well, the King Arthur legend is an evidence of magic...as well as the Salem witch persecutions during the middle ages."
"Very right, Cass. One point to you as well."
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Freya thought for a moment before raising her hand "Umm..I think magic has been happening since 50,000 B.C. I had had read in a muggle book that muggle Scientists believe that Prehistoric people who buried themselves in cave bears probably started magic. They probably did this as a magic rite (spell). The muggle scientists believe that the drawing and craving are a form of magic." she said and lowering her hand.
"Very nice, Freya. Two points."

Dusting herself off, Sylvie stood and walked back around to the table and stood behind it.

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Well, that was a hard question....uh..Well "Professor, can the practice of Alchemy be considered a practice of magic? Since Alchemy was practiced during the middle ages to be able to predict future happenings. A lot of muggle Alchemists were able to make precise predictions like Nostradamus."
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Mmm. Finn had a feeling he knew an answer to this. "Could crop circles be an example?" He wasn't too sure but it was worth a shot. "At least in the past anyway. Muggles used to think it was Aliens that did them, but it would be more realistic if magic had been used, seeing as magic exists. But now most muggles believe that they are man-made....." Yeah. It was kind of half to the point right?
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"There have been lots of explains of magical acts throughout history dating back to even perhaps the beginning of time, but lets focus more on the past few centuries now. We have touched on the Ancient Egyptians and the witch burnings, so what are other examples of things that have happen that would be thought to be caused by magic?"
Jimmy's hand went up. "Theres the Moai on Easter Island. Lots of traces of magic have been found around those, but its hard to investigate because the site holds a lot of interest for Muggle Archaeologists too and the Statute's gotta be protected and all. The part that is interesting is that magic at the Polynesian and Australasian sites are thought to have evolved separately from the African and European sites that most people are familiar with. Theres no evidence of wand use, for example, so they're looking into other ways that those people might have harnessed their magic. Like with gemstones. They reckon the Moai statues used to hold gemstones in the eye sockets, and that was one of the ways that magic was controlled. This is... I dunno, sometime between 1250 and 1500, which is a pretty big deal when you think about how comparatively civilized Wizarding Culture over here in Britain was around that period, I mean," Pshhh obviously the biggest indication of civilization, "We had Quidditch, but we didn't even know about those people."

He tipped his head at Finn and then nudged his friend. "Crop circles were on account of the Mooncalf." He murmured quietly. So yeah. Finlay was right.
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Grayson had grinned as Professor Welton gave her two points for her answer, as well as seemed happy someone had mentioned Stonehenge in the first place. And she could go back to not believing the people who talked about aliens and stuff. Then she picked up her cupcake, idly licking some of the frosting off the top before she glanced up at the professor again. Ignoring the fact someone had repeated her earlier answer. New question. raising her hand once again, she spoke a bit hesitantly. "'S'not really in the past few centuries or whatever, but what about something like the Trojan War? Muggles like to believe that was at least partly started because of their gods, but maybe it was just a love potion gone wrong. Or something. Couldn't events that are in Muggle mythology actually be examples of magic being used, but since most Muggles don't believe magic exists, they come up with other reasons?" Yeah, that answer was weird. Jimmy's was better, or even Finn's, so after she'd finished speaking, she went back to her frosting. Distractions.
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Freya smiled when she heard Professor Welton gave her two points for her answer. Hmm..Things that happened to be cause by magic??Freya thought a moment. She raised her hand "Umm..How about the philosopher's stone and the elixir of life, Professor?If I'm not mistaken in the middle ages the alchemist was searching for two very valuable substances which are the philosopher's stone and the elixir of life" she said uncertain.
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Mmm. Finn had a feeling he knew an answer to this. "Could crop circles be an example?" He wasn't too sure but it was worth a shot. "At least in the past anyway. Muggles used to think it was Aliens that did them, but it would be more realistic if magic had been used, seeing as magic exists. But now most muggles believe that they are man-made....." Yeah. It was kind of half to the point right?
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Jimmy's hand went up. "Theres the Moai on Easter Island. Lots of traces of magic have been found around those, but its hard to investigate because the site holds a lot of interest for Muggle Archaeologists too and the Statute's gotta be protected and all. The part that is interesting is that magic at the Polynesian and Australasian sites are thought to have evolved separately from the African and European sites that most people are familiar with. Theres no evidence of wand use, for example, so they're looking into other ways that those people might have harnessed their magic. Like with gemstones. They reckon the Moai statues used to hold gemstones in the eye sockets, and that was one of the ways that magic was controlled. This is... I dunno, sometime between 1250 and 1500, which is a pretty big deal when you think about how comparatively civilized Wizarding Culture over here in Britain was around that period, I mean," Pshhh obviously the biggest indication of civilization, "We had Quidditch, but we didn't even know about those people."

He tipped his head at Finn and then nudged his friend. "Crop circles were on account of the Mooncalf." He murmured quietly. So yeah. Finlay was right.
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Grayson had grinned as Professor Welton gave her two points for her answer, as well as seemed happy someone had mentioned Stonehenge in the first place. And she could go back to not believing the people who talked about aliens and stuff. Then she picked up her cupcake, idly licking some of the frosting off the top before she glanced up at the professor again. Ignoring the fact someone had repeated her earlier answer. New question. raising her hand once again, she spoke a bit hesitantly. "'S'not really in the past few centuries or whatever, but what about something like the Trojan War? Muggles like to believe that was at least partly started because of their gods, but maybe it was just a love potion gone wrong. Or something. Couldn't events that are in Muggle mythology actually be examples of magic being used, but since most Muggles don't believe magic exists, they come up with other reasons?" Yeah, that answer was weird. Jimmy's was better, or even Finn's, so after she'd finished speaking, she went back to her frosting. Distractions.
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Freya smiled when she heard Professor Welton gave her two points for her answer. Hmm..Things that happened to be cause by magic??Freya thought a moment. She raised her hand "Umm..How about the philosopher's stone and the elixir of life, Professor?If I'm not mistaken in the middle ages the alchemist was searching for two very valuable substances which are the philosopher's stone and the elixir of life" she said uncertain.
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"I think we are all getting the general idea here, but what else can we come up with? Magic can be the reason for perhaps a lot of things that have happened in history. Haven't you every really wondered how certain things just happen, yet there is no possible explanation for it? Maybe it's magic."
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"I think we are all getting the general idea here, but what else can we come up with? Magic can be the reason for perhaps a lot of things that have happened in history. Haven't you every really wondered how certain things just happen, yet there is no possible explanation for it? Maybe it's magic."
".... read it in a book, miss." James murmured.

Yeah. Wasn't because he.... knew stuff. Or anything. Still, his hand went up.

"Thats sort of the point isn't it? The Statute of Secrecy and all, when there have been breaches, they've been covered up, some of them so damned well that the general Wizarding public don't even know about it any more. And for the stuff that happened before the Statute, and before Obliviators, well its all become part of myth and story and superstition, which amounts to the same thing. I'm pretty sure everything in the world can be explained away by magic, even the things that have a more logical or mundane explanation.

I guess I wonder if there are things that we look at and say 'yep its magic' when its really not. When its really just some Muggle junk. Something scientific and not magical at all. I guess what I'm getting at is that we can use magic as an excuse too, and maybe that could be a lazy way of trying to solve a mystery, just like Muggles use superstitions -whether they're based on truth or not- to explain away the things that they don't understand."
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"Professor, what about those things that they the muggles think were caused by aliens...could they have been caused by wizards? Like those huge circles found in farms that they claim to be from UFOs."
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"Well Professor, I'm not sure if this counts, but I always wondered how they were able to build the Greek Gods and Goddesses monuments. Generally, weren't they rather large in scale and very intricate? It seems kind of crazy that muggles could build them without some form of magical assistance."
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