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Maidee entered the room, still grading the beginner's homework. With a worried frown, she noticed that not everyone had followed her rules concerning homework and it was thus taking her longer than it should have to grade the homework. Unfortunately, it looked like several were in serious risk of losing points because of it.

Shaking her head to rid herself of the negative thoughts, she began to hum a cheerful tune, or, at least, a tune that SOUNDED cheerful, though the lyrics weren't as cheerful as the tune sounded


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Miranda was sort of...staring at the text infront of her. Her eyes were almost narrowed shut as she tried to concentrate on whatever it said on the article.

But...but... she was distracted. Not only by the upcoming extra long Quidditch practice today, but the awful time she had the other day talking to Oliver. Though, sometime inbetween their two arguments that day, they had actually had fun. Or atleast, she had.

She listened to the others talk, and tried to see things from other perspectives.

But the article read something about planets lining up and causing disaster. Maybe that's what they had done that day.

Ugh.

She heard a boy talk, about how the planets were too far away and decided to dully give her opinion. "Maybe it's like the Butterfly effect. If the planets that are so far away move, then something gets disturbed...and so that 'wave' of disturbance keeps going until it hits the moon or the earth. The moon does have some control over the earth, so if that thing gets knocked out of its position...all hell breaks loose." She sighed and looked like she wanted to sleep. But really, she was worried.

"The planets are in their litte spots for a reason I think. Or else we would probably not be here right now. If the planets align, it could cause disaster...or it may not." Shrug. That might not have sounded coherent at all. Worried.
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Isabella sat in her seat, watching the other students and writing notes on here pieces of parchment. She'd been happy she had done her homework, meaning she could be here. She liked Astronmy, it was an interesting subject to her.

She smiled lightly to herself, remembering all those books, on this subject, she had read over and over again. Shacking her head a little, she pulled the article the class was disscusion towards her and looked at the first line.

It didnt take her long at all to read the whole article, and to refresh it all in her head. She didnt know what she was going to do, se didnt know how to put her views into words. Instead she looked round the room again, saying "Hello" to no one in particular.
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Kiri. MAN. That girl was just... SMART. It always surprised Livvy. The smartness that is. And in Astronomy. Geez oh peez. And here it was her worst subject!

She just sort of stared at the text and the people around her as they spoke, trying to take it all in. Astronomy... was just plain old complex. Everything they said hardly made any sense to her, especially the words that came out of Kiri's mouth. It was like she was born an astronomer. They way she talked. She practically knew everything about this subject! How 'bout they switched lives for the class?

To what a Hufflepuff girl said, Livvy held up her hand to say something. Oh goody. Don't make a fool out of yourself. "I think that what that girl," she paused to nod her head at the Hufflepuff girl, before continuing. "said... makes sense. All the planets are in their exact positions and exist for a reason. They all combine together to make our solar system. Each and every planet affects each and every other planet. Without one, the world and universe would be totally different. They all affect each other in their own way. If something happened to one planet, I believe that all the other planets would be affected in some way also. Just because history has said that nothing of the sort of a disaster has occurred, it could still happen. Even if it's a one in a million chance. A one in a billion. Whatever. It could still happen. The planets rely on each other and the distance could still effect it. Even if the alignment of the planets doesn't create a disaster for the Earth, I'm sure that something else would."
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This was the exact reason why Simone loved sitting next to Kiri during Astronomy. She was so incredibly good at it. After reading the article, listening to everyone's comments, and jotting down some notes, she didnt have much to add. Astronomy wasnt her strongest subject, but she liked learning about the universe. Which was another reason for her to be sitting next to Kiri.

She continued to write notes, and listen.
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What in the name of Merlin made her think that attending the ADVANCED Astronomy class would be a good idea? Yes she was an older student, and it was expected perhaps.But this was ASTRONOMY! One of the lessons that Sarah just couldn't get her head around.Maybe because it required her to use her head....

Sat with said head bowed, Sarah carefully read the text they had been given, all the while listening to everyone else's opinions.There wasn't much else she could add, certainly nothing different.Shrugging her shoulders, the words came out as something resembling a mumble. "I don't know.I don't think anything disastrous would happen if, on the extreme off chance, the planets aligned.I mean, it says here," she said, pulling the article closer to her. "That the combined gravity of the planets wouldn't really be much different to our moon, as the pull gets less the further away the object is.Surely it couldn't have much effect if that's the case?" Sarah looked up and around the room.She had just said something stupid, right? She knew it.
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What in the name of Merlin made her think that attending the ADVANCED Astronomy class would be a good idea? Yes she was an older student, and it was expected perhaps.But this was ASTRONOMY! One of the lessons that Sarah just couldn't get her head around.Maybe because it required her to use her head....

Sat with said head bowed, Sarah carefully read the text they had been given, all the while listening to everyone else's opinions.There wasn't much else she could add, certainly nothing different.Shrugging her shoulders, the words came out as something resembling a mumble. "I don't know.I don't think anything disastrous would happen if, on the extreme off chance, the planets aligned.I mean, it says here," she said, pulling the article closer to her. "That the combined gravity of the planets wouldn't really be much different to our moon, as the pull gets less the further away the object is.Surely it couldn't have much effect if that's the case?" Sarah looked up and around the room.She had just said something stupid, right? She knew it.
Barry listened to everyone talk, why did he have to take everything for his NEWTs? He was obviously going to fail Astronomy. Then this girl spoke and Barry raised his hand "Yeah, I agree with her." Not that it meant much. " The moon is proof that it is unlikely that anything would happen if the planets did align. " He then sighed and wondered if he could get an Acceptable in Astronomy
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After looking over the article the professor handed out, Adrienne almost felt glad she'd decided to try the subject again, even though she'd sort of boycotted it last term because of Professor Forrester. Professor McFarlane certainly brought some interesting ideas up. Listening to the others, she nodded a little, before she felt the need to respond to some of the others' comments. "Well, anything's possible. Whether or not it's likely planetary alignment will throw gravity and tidal forces out of whack is almost irrelevant, at least hypothetically. even the slightest chance means it could happen." She glanced at Jack, then. "Haven't you ever heard of the concept of there being a first time for everything? Just because historically nothing has happened doesn't make it completely impossible. Even the article is just giving one person's opinion on the subject."
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He nodded. "That's true, there is a first time for everything, but I'm looking at it from a purely scientific stand point," he explained with a smile. "Because the planets are all so far away from Earth, the effect of gravity from those planets on OUR planet is very small, so unless the planets somehow migrated closer to Earth, or their gravitational forces somehow increased dramatically, both of which I think are veryyy unlikely, I think one can predict off of history that we're safe."

He hoped she knew he wasn't disagreeing with her just to be difficult. He was one of those people who looked at facts and therefore was slighly stubborn. Hehe.
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Maidee reread the article herself to keep it fresh in her mind. She knew she would be referring to it throughout class, but it helped if she would at least try to keep it to memory.

"I know this is a little more like Astrology, and as such, Divination, but I am not asking you to read the planets for signs of on coming disasters, nor will I teach you how to do such things. If that's what you want to learn, seek out your Divination professor.

"What I want us to discuss is exactly what's in this article. Could the planets line up just right to cause a major disaster?"
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Nikki looked up from the article when the professor began to talk. Why would any of them want to predict disasters? Nikki certainly didn't. Could the planets lining up really cause disasters? "Well I don't think they could. If the author said that no disasters have happened. It's more likely that a disaster won't happen at all." Right? Was that okay? Was that even right?!
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Bell raised her hand in the airr, saying, "Professor, i think its stupid. The Planets around us cant line up and destory us, the sun keeps them away from us. In a way. And besides there's been no diasters from the plants yet" She said not taking a breath once, till the end. She smiled happy with her answer.
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Chris listened to the other students thoughtfully analyzing there thoughts before he, himself wayed in on the subject of the planets aligning and a disaster happening because of it. "Well I would have to kind of agree with what Jack said." he nodded towards his fellow Gryffindor, "Purely on scientific knowledge, the planets run on their own orbits, so yes it may just consequently be that they all line up, but I don't know how this would conclude with a Disaster to Earth. Why not Mercury, its the first planet in the line not us, or Pluto its last?" he said shrugging his shoulders. "All I am asking is why would it cause something to happen to the randomly third planet in the solar system, and what would cause the disaster. The planets just line-up, but I respectavily will accept others views." he was really interested in what others had to say on this subject. He was excited for this discussion.
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Gold raised her hand. "Professor, my sense says no," she said cheerfully. "Gravity, though quite an effective force, loses its power with an increase in the distance between two bodies. That sort of renders its ability to cause a huge disaster, ineffective - even in the case of an alignment, it seems pretty likely that the distance factor would eliminate the possibility of massive destruction, such as the earth being torn apart."

"But," and now she looked more thoughtful. "We know that tidal forces can become pretty strong, under specific conditions. That makes me wonder if a disaster might, after all, be possible. I wouldn't say it would be the kind that could destroy the earth, but I do think it might be able to cause some damage to worry about."

Maidee nodded, "Very good point. Maybe the Earth won't be destroyed, but maybe civilization will be due to tidal waves and earth quakes."

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Rachel wriggled a bit in her seat in order to get more comfortable. She had just finished reading the article and was pondering on her response. As a person who LOVED books - not just magic ones - this triggered something in her memory since she had read quite a few physics books over the years and there was one thing that hadn't been mentioned here...

Or maybe her memory was faulty. Either way, it was worth mentioning. "Professor, I do not think that it is possible for any sort of alignment of the planets to affect the earth. The article puts a strong emphasis on gravity - naturally - and on tidal forces, in particular. Gravity is a weak force, and it's only because the moon is so large and so close to us, all relatively of course, that it has an effect on the earth," she began, and looked down at the article for a second before continuing.

"I'm not sure but I think there is a principle that gravity follows called the Superposition Principle. According to the superposition, gravity is a force interacting between two bodies with no consideration of any other bodies around it. This means that each planet, regardless of the other planets' positions, exerts the same amount of gravity on the earth all the time - and that's why, in my opinion, a catastrophe could not occur from the planets aligning - because there is no importance to where they are in relativity of each other," Rachel said, her hand a little tired from being in the air for so long.

It was slightly scary; the stuff she remembered. Sure, she remembered the Superposition Principle, but the Principles of Potions went in one ear and came out the other! Bleh - she really needed to prioritize her brain.

Then again, it was nice to know stuff. AND, eventually, those Potions things DID stay in her head.
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"Erm, I'm not sure that's correct," Kiri spoke up quietly, blushing. She hated disagreeing with her classmates, and this girl looked much older than Kiri - and she was a Ravenclaw. Ordinarily, that would go towards convincing Kiri that she was wrong, but Astronomy was the only subject where she could argue with some authority.

She turned around in her seat to look at the girl. Or, at least, her general direction. "I mean, gravity clearly does not exert the same amount of pull all the time. It depends on the mass of an object and its distance - most of the time, anyway. If a planet is farther away, Earth feels less of its gravity than when it's closer. So, erm, yes, it changes over time. It's not constant."

Kiri was a little more encouraged as she continued, "And even if that was true, I don't think it would, you know, solve the problem stated in the article. If each planet just exerted its gravitational pull on Earth regardless of every other planet, in a conjunction, Earth would still feel all of their gravity coming from one side, and the tidal force would increase.
"I mean, I agree with you, there's absolutely no danger, but I don't think your argument, is, er... is entirely correct." Her face still felt a little hot.
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Breathe. "Yeah, I see your point. And it's true - you're right; I didn't really consider the possibility of that before. Thanks," she smiled at the girl, honestly grateful for the correction. Mental note: seek out physics book and REREAD it. Smiling, Rachel turned back to the professor with a sort of apologetic grin. She HATED being wrong - that was something that will never change - but at least she could deal with it now.

Back in her first year she would have burst out crying if someone had actually pinpointed her answer and claimed it to be wrong. Wow - she had actually matured!

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Cedric scoured the contents of the article given by the new Astronomy professor, noting some important details. At the first time he'd read the article, it seemed like it didn't make any sense at all 'cause people all know that: centuries, and maybe millenniums ago that the alignment of the planets of the universe cannot cause any harm to the planet they have been living all these time... Earth. But there was this another part of his mind that kept telling him.. who knows! who knows if those other planets can or cannot 'cause any harm to our planet?

He browsed the article for the second time, all of its contents were just predictions, surreal prophecies.. not science-proven facts.. "I don't think the alignment of the planets can cause any harm or disastrous catastrophes to our planet, Professor. It isn't proven yet, right? and we never know what will and may happen. Those are just unreal facts that some freaky people have made to freak out other people.. and I can tell it is working," Cedric stated, then he glanced around, looking to some worried and fear stricken faces of his classmates.
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Barry looked at Kiri saying how long it would take for the planets to all be in alinement, Barry tried to think of something to say, he wasn`t sure of what they were talking about " But arn`t we talking about this theoreticly? We`re not really expecting this to happen are we?"

Now um his opinion " But I don`t think anything would happen to the earth if they all the planets aligned. There just too far away. I mean the moon is closer to the earth and it doesn`t do anything to it, so what could the planets do from that far away?" asked Barry
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Miranda was sort of...staring at the text infront of her. Her eyes were almost narrowed shut as she tried to concentrate on whatever it said on the article.

But...but... she was distracted. Not only by the upcoming extra long Quidditch practice today, but the awful time she had the other day talking to Oliver. Though, sometime inbetween their two arguments that day, they had actually had fun. Or atleast, she had.

She listened to the others talk, and tried to see things from other perspectives.

But the article read something about planets lining up and causing disaster. Maybe that's what they had done that day.

Ugh.

She heard a boy talk, about how the planets were too far away and decided to dully give her opinion. "Maybe it's like the Butterfly effect. If the planets that are so far away move, then something gets disturbed...and so that 'wave' of disturbance keeps going until it hits the moon or the earth. The moon does have some control over the earth, so if that thing gets knocked out of its position...all hell breaks loose." She sighed and looked like she wanted to sleep. But really, she was worried.

"The planets are in their litte spots for a reason I think. Or else we would probably not be here right now. If the planets align, it could cause disaster...or it may not." Shrug. That might not have sounded coherent at all. Worried.

"Very good! In fact, if the Earth was off by just a little bit, it would either be too hot or too cold for life to be here."

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Bell raised her hand in the airr, saying, "Professor, i think its stupid. The Planets around us cant line up and destory us, the sun keeps them away from us. In a way. And besides there's been no diasters from the plants yet" She said not taking a breath once, till the end. She smiled happy with her answer.
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Chris listened to the other students thoughtfully analyzing there thoughts before he, himself wayed in on the subject of the planets aligning and a disaster happening because of it. "Well I would have to kind of agree with what Jack said." he nodded towards his fellow Gryffindor, "Purely on scientific knowledge, the planets run on their own orbits, so yes it may just consequently be that they all line up, but I don't know how this would conclude with a Disaster to Earth. Why not Mercury, its the first planet in the line not us, or Pluto its last?" he said shrugging his shoulders. "All I am asking is why would it cause something to happen to the randomly third planet in the solar system, and what would cause the disaster. The planets just line-up, but I respectavily will accept others views." he was really interested in what others had to say on this subject. He was excited for this discussion.

"Very good question." Maidee turned to Chris, "Maybe it wouldn't be a disaster to Earth, but one of the more central planets?"
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Very good question." Maidee turned to Chris, "Maybe it wouldn't be a disaster to Earth, but one of the more central planets?"
Chris listened to Professor MacFarlane's response on his thoughts of the subject. "Well I do see what you mean. Just because something doesn't directly happen to Earth, doesn't mean it wont effect us right? I mean if something had happned to another planet, I think it would definately effect us because the galaxy is a complex and structured thing." he nodded.

"I also agree with the idea you and some others had on the possiblity of something minute happening in Space, and causing destruction of civilzation on Earth, such as Earthquakes, Hurricanes, and climate." he nodded. So much good conversation flow!
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"Oh, but the Moon affects the tides because of the moon's gravitational pull, and the Moon is much smaller than the planets."
Barry tried to find somethin to say " So can`t we assume that the planets will do the same, just on a different scale because of the difference of size and distance from the earth compared to the moon. It`ll just affect the tides. At most it could cause a sunami"
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Maidee was pleased. This was exactly what she had been hoping for! "Very good, girls. For being respectful and mature, you may both have a coupon as well!"

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... A coupon? This was new. Smiling gratefully, Rachel took the reward from the Professor and smiled as she saw she had recieved one for Puddifoot's. Excellent - that way Jake wouldn't guilt-trip her into giving it to him.

"Thank you, Professor," Rachel looked back up as she neatly placed the coupon in her pocket, then turned to thankfully nod to the younger girl who had corrected her - if it wasn't for her, she wouldn't have received the present.

Now - on with the lesson. "The only thing I can really think of is if a meteor get's caught in our solar system's gravitational pull and it gets sucked down towards our planet THEN I believe the Earth will undergo mass destruction," Rachel nodded, remembering that REALLY old muggle movie she had used to watch with her parents when she was but eight years old.

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Respectful and mature! Kiri accepted the coupon with a big grin on her face. "Thanks, Professor!" She studied it closely for a few moments. Kiri loved Chocolate Frogs.

Something about the conversation still kind of bugged her, though. Scientific curiosity was a valuable thing, of course, but people still seemed to think that the catastrophic event the article talked about was even remotely likely. If the Solar System's orbital mechanics were that jumbled and random, there probably wouldn't have been a Solar System for long, and almost certainly no chance for life to develop on Earth. It had only taken humanity three billion years to arrive on the scene...

"You know," she spoke up again, to anyone who would feel like they wanted to listen, "the, er, asteroid belt... Between Mars and Jupiter? That's basically left over from when the Solar System first formed - it could have been a planet, but the tidal forces of Jupiter were too strong for accretion to occur. So they do have some influence in the Solar System."
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Chris listened to the other students thoughtfully analyzing there thoughts before he, himself wayed in on the subject of the planets aligning and a disaster happening because of it. "Well I would have to kind of agree with what Jack said." he nodded towards his fellow Gryffindor, "Purely on scientific knowledge, the planets run on their own orbits, so yes it may just consequently be that they all line up, but I don't know how this would conclude with a Disaster to Earth. Why not Mercury, its the first planet in the line not us, or Pluto its last?" he said shrugging his shoulders. "All I am asking is why would it cause something to happen to the randomly third planet in the solar system, and what would cause the disaster. The planets just line-up, but I respectavily will accept others views." he was really interested in what others had to say on this subject. He was excited for this discussion.
Daniel raised his hand and said, "Professor, please." he said then looked at his classmates, "I know everyone knows about what they call the domino effect. It is that effect that when something happens to one part, it will affect the rest. That is also the case of the planets in our solar system." he said looking from the Professor then back to his classmates.

'The planets are held by the gravity of the sun, not only that each other's gravity affect the others too, so one planet may tumble and the rest will follow." he said and then sat down.
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Maidee nodded, "Very good point. Maybe the Earth won't be destroyed, but maybe civilization will be due to tidal waves and earth quakes."

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"Professor," Gold's hand was in the air again. "I wonder about that, too. When we talk of an alignment, we are talking, not of one gravitational pull, but of several. The forces of gravity that effect the earth during a specific alignment, might cancel each other out, or at least bring themselves to a balance that means no destruction."

"But let's look at the other planets. Mercury, for instance, is really tiny, and I don't believe it has that much of a gravitational force of its own, at least not when compared to most of the other celestial bodies. I think an alignment where the various gravitational pulls on it can't balance each other out, and it crashes into another celestial body, isn't impossible. In fact, it sounds very scarily probable, even though there are a lot of 'ifs' involved - if an alignment happens, if it happens in such a way etc. - and the whole thing seems a very one in a million chance."

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"Professor," Gold's hand was in the air again. "I wonder about that, too. When we talk of an alignment, we are talking, not of one gravitational pull, but of several. The forces of gravity that effect the earth during a specific alignment, might cancel each other out, or at least bring themselves to a balance that means no destruction."

"But let's look at the other planets. Mercury, for instance, is really tiny, and I don't believe it has that much of a gravitational force of its own, at least not when compared to most of the other celestial bodies. I think an alignment where the various gravitational pulls on it can't balance each other out, and it crashes into another celestial body, isn't impossible. In fact, it sounds very scarily probable, even though there are a lot of 'ifs' involved - if an alignment happens, if it happens in such a way etc. - and the whole thing seems a very one in a million chance."

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"Let's take it another step further. As you say, Gold, Mercury is much smaller than the other planets, what if the alignment affected Mercury, and it was that planet that was torn apart. What do you think would happen to Earth then?" She left the question open to discussion among the students.
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"Let's take it another step further. As you say, Gold, Mercury is much smaller than the other planets, what if the alignment affected Mercury, and it was that planet that was torn apart. What do you think would happen to Earth then?" She left the question open to discussion among the students.
Chris looked over to his co-Prefect and gave her a huge grin. She was really smart. He then listened as Professor MacFarlane gave her next discussion point. He took in the information and then thought about it for a minute before he raised his hand to speak.

"Well Professor, the possiblities of what would happen if Mercury were to be destroyed are endless. But some of them that come to my mind would be it make crash into the sun causing an explosion of a sort. Another very plausable thing would be that the planet would break up into meteors and large pieces of rock, since Mercury is a solid planet, and hit the Earth. These would have a big enough size to do serious harm on our planet. It could also as others said," glance over to Gold. "Through off the complete balance of Earth and the other Planets." he nodded.
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"Let's take it another step further. As you say, Gold, Mercury is much smaller than the other planets, what if the alignment affected Mercury, and it was that planet that was torn apart. What do you think would happen to Earth then?" She left the question open to discussion among the students.
Hmm... "Professor, I still don't think such a situation is possible in regard to ANY planet for the simple reason that the chances of the EXACT placement the planets need to be in for one to rip is SO far-fetched that I don't think it will happen," she began, her hand in the air as she talked. The seventh year needed to get that out of her system first since it was crucial, in her eyes, to clear that first.

Now - onto the actual question. "As Chris said," Rachel started again, smiling over at her Gryffindor friend, "I think the biggest chance of the Earth being in danger was if the pieces from Mercury made their way over to our planet, although I don't think we'd even feel anything if the pieces all crashed into the Sun. See, our Sun is so huge compared to the planets that rock pieces the size of Mercury really won't do any damage, in my opinion. Now, I'm not really sure, but I do think that the fact that one planet will be missing will throw the galaxy out of balance...

"... What do you think?"
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Maidee nodded, boy, were these students smart! She warily looked toward the student who appeared to be no more than a second year. He hadn't been in the beginner's class, as he should have been, but apparently he wanted to try the harder stuff out. Let's hope he can last the term!

"Let's take it another step further. As you say, Gold, Mercury is much smaller than the other planets, what if the alignment affected Mercury, and it was that planet that was torn apart. What do you think would happen to Earth then?" She left the question open to discussion among the students.
Gold nodded, when the professor spoke again. She was such a good teacher, this one! MUCH better than their insane-o Defence teacher. He was, to be very frank, something of a nut.

"I think that would effect Venus, more than the earth," she said thoughtfully, hand sort of in the air. "Since that's the 'wall' between us, and Mercury. Mercury's not the biggest celestial body out there, so I think it's pretty likely that, if it were torn apart, pieces of it wouldn't crash into the earth - maybe into Venus, cause some damage there."

"But that brings us to a scarier possibility - what if a bit of Venus gets torn apart, because of that? That could land our own planet into trouble... of course, there's also the possibility that, if Mercury is ever torn apart, the bits of it would just float around in space, not causing any real damage, but gradually burning up, or being modified in shape or size."

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Kiri doodled away on her copy of the article as she listened to the ongoing conversation. What about Mercury, indeed... She drew a tiny circle.

Well, the Ravenclaw was definitely right, Mercury breaking up was similarly improbable to Earth breaking up. As far as Kiri was concerned, a defining characteristic of solar systems was their stability. Wouldn't be much of a system otherwise, she thought. But just out of curiosity... Kiri opened her notebook on an empty page. She'd need a little room.

After a few minutes full of industrious scribbling and calculating, Kiri put her quill aside. "Alright," she announced. "Nothing whatsoever would happen if Mercury just disappeared." She held up the piece of paper. It was full of numbers and equations. "In comparison to the Sun's gravity, Mercury basically doesn't even register."

She began reading out numbers. "The gravitational force between the Sun and Earth is about, erm..." Kiri paused, blushing slightly. She had no idea about the number's name. Again. "Well, it's 3.52 followed by 22 zeroes. If you subtract the gravitational force of Mercury, er, which is 22 quadrillion Newtons, you're left with... 3.51. Still followed by 22 zeroes."

Kiri replaced the paper on the desk. "So, as far as the maths goes, Mercury isn't important at all," she concluded. "Nothing would happen to Earth. It's of course possible that a chunk of Mercury could break off, but I think the probability it would end up hitting us is extremely low. Most likely it would simply end up falling into the Sun."
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"Okay, kiddos, let's ignore pieces of planets hitting us, even though we're not sure the atmosphere would stop them as they are NOT made of ice. Let's talk about the sudden change in gravity going one way or the other. As it was said before, if the Earth was off it's orbit by just a tiny bit in either direction, we would not be here. Imagine, for a minute, what it would mean for us, if the gravity surrounding Earth changed. If Earth got nudged that tiny bit - or more - in either direction."
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Maidee looked around with a shifty look. Apparently the students hadn't quite got the MOST IMPORTANT THING.

"Okay, kiddos, let's ignore pieces of planets hitting us, even though we're not sure the atmosphere would stop them as they are NOT made of ice. Let's talk about the sudden change in gravity going one way or the other. As it was said before, if the Earth was off it's orbit by just a tiny bit in either direction, we would not be here. Imagine, for a minute, what it would mean for us, if the gravity surrounding Earth changed. If Earth got nudged that tiny bit - or more - in either direction."
Gold raised her hand. "Professor, if the earth was nudged by, say, even one cm, it would go off on a tangent." She was good at physics, mark you that. "We would be on a wild ride through space, and the distance between the sun and the earth would continue to increase, to the point where there would be an Ice Age."

"In short ... total destruction."


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