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| Term 23: September - December 2009 Term Twenty-three: Mysterious Circumstances (Sept 2069 - June 2070) |

09-26-2009, 04:27 PM
| | Muggle Studies Lesson 1 - Self Defense
Antonio was busy getting the classroom ready for the students. He knew they would soon be filing in for the first lesson of the season, and wanted to make sure everything was in order. He set his desk up at the front of the room and set up a stack of books there. The books were labelled with the title "Self Defense".
"Hello, everyone, and welcome back to Hogwarts and the first Muggle Studies class. Please pick up a Self Defense textbook and have a seat. We're just going to wait for the class to fill up a bit, as usual, so make yourselves comfortable." He smiled. This was an important lesson he would be teaching today. It was similar to a class he had taught a few terms back on martial arts, yet different. He thought the class would find the lesson useful and informative. ooc: Look to this first post for updates and important information on where to find key posts within this thread for your future reference!
Post 59 - Definition of self defense
Post 77 - Difference between force and violence
Post 91 - Pepper spray discussion begins
Post 103 - Pyramid of Personal Safety
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09-26-2009, 05:32 PM
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"You mean like, the ninja stuff?" Xander said, doing some flailing arm movements from his seat. Impressive, right? Oh yeah, he knew it was. "I don't think it's always the right way to defend yourself. I mean if someone is attacking you, sure, go right ahead and hit them. But if they're just instigating a fight, then you don't HAVE to, per se."
He looked down at his arms and flexed his muscles. GRRR. They couldn't be seen through his robes yet. FAIL. Oh well, he would work on it.
"I can understand if someone hits you first, but if they don't know martial arts and you do, then you have an unfair advantage against them."
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| Super Slytherin Buddy | | ⅓ She-Snake Trio | | a normal girl with normal knees 'Muggle...self defense...why am i doing this?' Evelyn thought, having second thoughts on the class. 'Because you want to make your parents angry.' the voice replied, making her roll her eyes. 'Yea, but seriously...is it worth it? Learning about...muggles?' Evelyn slouched in her seat a little. 'Martial arts? What is that?' She thought, looking around at the class, knowing full well that she was probably going to fail in it. |
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09-26-2009, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Deniiz Could Evan be any happier? He was with his best friends, but as always something ruined the scene: It was Muggle Studies class, and he was still asking the question "What am I doing here?". He just wanted to gain more points and until the class started, he could have his time.
Grinning even more, he punched Lyra's shoulder playfully and winked before he turned back to Rayedem. He was extra positive today.
He laughed. "Are we all not messy after that class?" Yes, it was hard to rid of that smell, but he managed it eventually and now he could laugh at it. "I'm fine too... Yes, we definately should!" Smile. Seriously, why didn't he never see him? He took a mental note to hang around somewhere with Rayedem after class. Maybe they could go to that Maze. He heard it was pretty. Evan. Lyra. Rayedem? He might be an intruder, but at that point he wasn't really thinking of it. Oh well.. He could always see the signs if he was in fact interrupting, right? Rayedem was about to talk to Evan when.. Quote:
Originally Posted by Slytherin Fox Antonio greeted all the students as they came in. "It's wonderful to see such a good attendance so soon," he told them.
"You probably know that we didn't give out house points last year in the classroom. That was an experimental kind of thing, and this year is going to be a bit different. You will be able to earn house points in this class, but they won't be on an individual basis. I will award points for the first correct answer, but they will go to your house rather than to you personally. This gives everyone a chance to work together and earn points as a team, and teamwork is a very good thing, don't you all think?" He smiled at the group again.
"So, today's lesson is going to be on muggle self defense. Of course the muggles don't have magic and they need to have a way to protect themselves and, of course, they do. This is what we are going to be learning about in this class today. Some of you may remember that we did a class on martial arts a few terms back. But, are martial arts really self defense? What do all of you think about this? Is this a good way to defend oneself, or are there better ways?" Rayedem mouthed his apologies to Evan, then hurriedly took a book from the professor's desk and walked towards the seats and sat on one behind Evan's. There's plenty of time to talk later, he thought, better not to do anything to make his house lose any points.
Responding to the professor's question, Rayedem raised his hand, "Sir, I've learned a few martial arts before I was sent to Hogwarts," he began, "and I'm glad I did. Of course it is a good way to defend yourself. But I think it's better to avoid having to use them, say to use words instead." he lowered his hand, blushing.
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09-26-2009, 05:45 PM
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Ellie sat there with her mouth hanging open, muggle self defense?? What was that? She was so glad that she was there, because she needed to learn about muggles. She had been brought up by a wizard family, ignorant to muggles and their ways. Thinking it might be an idea to take notes, she got her parchment and quill at the ready to scribble.
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09-26-2009, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by hermione9495 "Oh, Blakes not my boyfriend." Nikki said shaking her head. "He's just really flirty, thats all." She added. "So do you like Muggle Studies?" She asked. " My favorite subject" Jason told Nikki. " What is your favorite subject?" Jason asked Nikki. " Professor DuMont, Self-Defense is a good way to protect yourself, so it is just like Martial Arts" Jason told him. " We could make the room bigger, get rid of chairs and tables, put down mats and all do self-defense if that sounds good" Jason Potter Weasley tried to give the professor an idea. " nikki, I hope we can be good freinds" Jason told her.
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09-26-2009, 05:51 PM
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Blake chuckled, Mr. Potter Weasley liiikes Nikki, bwaahaa. Anyways back to topic.
Raising his hand he answered, "Umm Professor, I think Martial Arts is a fantastic way for self defense but it's rather hard to learn and generally peeps wouldn't like to learn something that's is difficult. Sooo there must be better and easier ways to defend oneself. I like pepper sprays, they are girly but can do the trick." Okaaay that was a verrry absurd answer.
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09-26-2009, 06:02 PM
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Miranda listened intently at the Professor. Self defence! This was going to be awesooooooooome! Imagine being able to defend yourself without magic! Quote:
Originally Posted by SLytherin Fox "So, today's lesson is going to be on muggle self defense. Of course the muggles don't have magic and they need to have a way to protect themselves and, of course, they do. This is what we are going to be learning about in this class today. Some of you may remember that we did a class on martial arts a few terms back. But, are martial arts really self defense? What do all of you think about this? Is this a good way to defend oneself, or are there better ways?" Raising her hand, she was going to answer the professors question, "Sir, Martial Arts is great for self defence, but I think that maybe that is a bit more of a spiritual thing to do. I do not think that the people who invented martial arts so many years ago had intended for them to be used as a tool of violence." she paused, a thinking frown etched on her face, "But ofcourse, there have been many improvements to the Martial Arts and therefore it can be suitable for a defensive stance."
Miranda took a breath, and then added, "Having said that, I don't think there might be better ways unfortunately... Or you can somehow try to evade the situation that requires you to defendd yourself, but that might mean that the threat will still come at you some other time."
Miranda shrugged and chewed on her quill, it was her opinion and maybe she was wrong.
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09-26-2009, 06:08 PM
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Theo didn't want to do Martial Arts, he was a quick nimble person. But he wasn't violent. Thats why he never cast magic on people. He only did it on inanimate objects and animals. This sucked.
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09-26-2009, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Deniiz Evan felt the urge to make it clear that he did not like this class. The professor may seem good, but he had issues with the subject. But he needed to hold himself, because he was going to get points. Totally.
His face fell when the professor said the points would be rewarded as a teamwork. Whatever, he would still be able to get them from this class. He knew who was his team, Lyra and Rayedem. He quickly raised his hand to answer. "Some arts only teach defense, and they really work. They usually focus on disarming and not hurting, so I think these ones are much better than the ones which aim to hurt. And as Muggles can't use magic, they usually go on physical touch, and the defenses without touch use weapons, which is very bad." He talked quickly and hoped he explained his view well. Quote:
Originally Posted by fire_faerie Rachel had slipped in unnoticed just before the lesson had started and was therefore prepared for Professor Dumont's first question. "Professor," she began, raising her hand, "I think that knowing martial arts, in its simplest form, is sufficient for self defense when you're up against someone who doesn't have weapons and who is not too skilled in combat himself. Once you are facing someone with knowledge, power and weapons - the techniques become entirely different, in my opinion," she said, nodding. "Weapons, high skills in martial arts and good legs for running away are amongst the few that are necessary," Rachel added with a small smile, knowing fully well that if she were faced with danger and no wand she'd run as fast as she could in the other direction. Quote:
Originally Posted by Hollister Martial arts ....?
Sylvia didn't attend Hogwarts when they did this lesson! ARRRGH.
She would have to ask questions. "Sir, is martial arts the kicking, and the chopping?" She raised her hand and then gestured a few chopping actions. "That's self defense right? But not EVERY muggle knows it? Isn't it like really difficult to learn?" Sylvia thought for a moment, and raised her hand again. "I was always told, if someone hits you, you gotta hit back. To show 'em you're not afraid of them."
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Originally Posted by Zoerawrr Having already lost focus in the class, Jake blinked to clear his head and gazed stupidly up at Dumont for a moment before answering the question he knew... or hoped, had been asked. That is, of course, after he smiled at his older sister in greeting.
"Sir," Jake started, hand raised. "I don't think we can truly say which ways are better. I mean, in my opinion, there are loads of good self defence methods... it just depends how you use them, when, if you can use them, and all that." Quote:
Originally Posted by stubbyone "I don't think Martial Arts are that great for self defense professor," Sara said as she raised her hand. "Self Defenses teaches you, first, to stay away from danger... but if danger is there, you have to have the knowledge and stregnth to defend yourself..don't you?" "All of you have brought up some excellent points," Antonio said. "Evan, you answered that question quickly and you are correct. Disarming should definitely be your first focus in an attack. That's your primary method of concern. I am going to award 4 points to Slytherin for an excellent answer, and 2 points to Ravenclaw and Hufflepuff for good answers, as well."
Antonio looked around the room. He was surprised that the Gryffindors didn't seem to be on the ball. He was Head of Gryffindor House, and was a bit disappointed with their performance so far. He silently willed the Gryffindor students to be more responsive, knowing his efforts were probably futile. He could only do so much for them and had to be fair about his awarding of points.
Antonio continued. "Now, you will notice that the textbook defines some examples of when self defense should be used. Quote:
A defense to certain criminal charges involving force (e.g. murder).
Use of force is justified when a person reasonably believes that it is necessary for the defense of oneself or another against the immediate use of unlawful force. However, a person must use no more force than appears reasonably necessary in the circumstances.
Force likely to cause death or great bodily harm is justified in self-defense only if a person reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent death or great bodily harm.
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He paused and looked around. "Do you all understand this? What do you think is the main point here?"
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09-26-2009, 06:18 PM
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"and I think this is a main point....because obviously the unlawful force needs to be justified."
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09-26-2009, 06:19 PM
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"I think what the text is trying to say is that if you're using force to defend yourself, you should only use what is necessary and never more. More force than necessary is no longer defense."
Heh. Maybe puking on Willie Crocker's shoes WAS self-defense.
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09-26-2009, 06:20 PM
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Miranda nodded and raised her hand, "Sir, the main point is that you shouldn't twist the reason for using self defence. I mean, it is for defense, if the purpose was disorted to be used as a way to harm someone, then it is wrong." she paused and then continued "I think you have to use youre common sense or trust your gut that you are indeed doing what you have to do in the right way." |
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09-26-2009, 06:22 PM
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| JGL ♥ | Wifey + SexyCPR = RAWR. | Co-Inceptor♥ | CHLOCHLO! | Rollie = My Ship Hmm, this question looked quite easy. Sylvia raised her hand. "Is it basically saying don't overdo it when defending yourself?" "Like, for example. If someone pokes you, you don't need to punch them, just ... poke them back." |
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09-26-2009, 06:26 PM
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Evan smiled modestly at the professor, and thought on this for some time before answering. "I think it says that the force of defense depends on the person. It says '...a person reasonably believes that such force is necessary...' So the main point is defense varies from people to people, but it should always stay in necessary limit." He hoped his answer would again be awarded although he was not that fast this time.
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09-26-2009, 06:27 PM
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Sarah looked around the room and sighed, "I hardly understand any of this." She was realy good at muggle studies but she didn't understand much about Martial Arts. "What was that." She looked at what the Professor was saying. "This book is weird, I don't understand anything from the book, it seems to be talking in a weird languege." she sighed. "The main pain there has got to be don't allow some people to write books." She laughed. "Oh you mean about the sentance, well I don't know what it says so I don't think I can comment on that."
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09-26-2009, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Slytherin Fox Antonio looked around the room. He was surprised that the Gryffindors didn't seem to be on the ball. He was Head of Gryffindor House, and was a bit disappointed with their performance so far. He silently willed the Gryffindor students to be more responsive, knowing his efforts were probably futile. He could only do so much for them and had to be fair about his awarding of points.
Antonio continued. "Now, you will notice that the textbook defines some examples of when self defense should be used.
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He paused and looked around. "Do you all understand this? What do you think is the main point here?" This time, it took Nataly more time to think o the answer. That was a complicated text. Did that mean that i someone attacks you so hard that you may die you can kill or sel deence?
She raised her hand to answer. " It means that if someone attacks you so violently that you can die or have big physical harm, you can kill the attacer or sel-defence."
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"Um the point, Sir, is that you can only attack if it is justified. Like if you are being attacked first," Theo smiled, raising his hand.
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Victoria put her hand up "Professor, I did karate when I was little and I had a brown belt."
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09-26-2009, 06:33 PM
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" Hello sweetie" Jason told Victoria. "Actually we are going to be taught about self- defense that ihas nothing to do with Martial Arts. " Muggle police teach self-defense" Jason told Professor DuMont.
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09-26-2009, 06:41 PM
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Eva quickly raised her hand. Muggle Studies was probably her favourite subject at Hogwarts, allongside with Arithmancy, but for the simple reason she was half muggle, raised like one, so she was used to all the objects they tend to need for classes, like pencils and pens.
She wans't very excited about martial arts, but it did interested her. "I think the main point there is that we should be careful when we need to use martial arts and only to use force when it's absolutely necessary, because our actions might have very serious consequences." she answered, not sure about wether it would be the most apporppriate answer to that question.
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09-26-2009, 06:43 PM
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Sloaned looked the text like it was something completely disgusting, this wasn't one of her favorite classes at all and felt it was pointless. "You're kidding me...." she grumbled to herself as quietly as possible, she didn't want to upset any of her classmates or the professor.
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"One can only go overboard in self defense when the situation is life threatening. However if someone slapped you, you don't have to strangle the person or jab them with a knife, just slap them back." Blake said, trying to understand the passage quoted by the Professor.
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Staring blankly, Jake blinked after a moment. "Yeah, i didn't even think it was English..." he said, strailing off before looking around at the others. "Something about needing to be provoked before you go all RAWRR back at them."
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Chris raised his hand, "Well I think the main point of that is that if a person is going to use real Martial Arts or defensive measures they need to be sure that the situation calls for it and to not perform unessary harm." he said answering the question.
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"Well sir, i took a muggle womens self defence course, it was while i was with my muggle gran in canada, and they taught us to defend our selves. The whole point is to get out of danger in any means necesary. If you are being choked you can use the base of your palm to hit there nose and it will only break the nose at best, it is to save yourself. But they deffinitely told us that if we get them away from us not to keep hitting them or causing harm just run and yell... but to yell fire because muggles listen to that"
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