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Ama 09-22-2009 04:26 AM

Daphne had been busy not looking at everyone on the other side. Especially not at Celandine. She continued to not make eye contact even as she let herself drop on a beanbag recklessly.

"Herpo the Foul, sir."

Davvy_Wavvy 09-22-2009 04:26 AM

Rhea smiled and sighed deeply. Finally...something other than blood tension. She plopped unto a cushion and shot her hand up in the air.
" Bellatrix Lestrange Sir," she said confidently.
"And her husband," she added as an after thought.

Rhea frowned someone else had said her answer.
"Hmm..Peter Pettrigrew played a huge part in the Rise well second Rise of Voldemort."

Faerilicious 09-22-2009 04:26 AM

Finallly! Sabrina's feet were strting to ache as the girl hadn't had the chance to sit down for quite a long time now. Grabbing a bean bag, the blonde slumped onto it.

"Erm ... Gellert Grindelwald." Sabrina replied. "Lord Voldemort. The Voldemortist?"

Angie 09-22-2009 04:27 AM

Willow was pointedly ignoring the looks of certain people. She was perfectly happy where she was, thank you very much, and no - she did not need or wanted to sit on the dirty floor.

Hmph.

"Emeric The Evil, professor." Answered the girl, hand in the air.

That one did count, right?

TeafortheSoul 09-22-2009 04:28 AM

Cela sat down where Cope had indicated, giving him a little grin and settling comfortably before raising her free hand. "Technically, Durmstrang students are taught Dark Arts rather than defence against so it might be a generalisation but there are definitely Dark Artists associated with that Institute..."

Y'know.

Like her brothers.

Ameh 09-22-2009 04:32 AM

Sinking onto a cushion thing with a relieved sigh, Raiden fixed his eyes on the Professor. Dark Artists... hmm. A few had been mentioned already... He put his hand up.

"Merwyn the Malicious, sir?" He bit his lip hesitantly. "He wasn't really nice, at the very least."

Rosa Chispa Princessa 09-22-2009 04:33 AM

Fred took a seat on one of the beanbags in the middle of the room and then looked through his text book and raised his hand and said, "I believe Salazar Slytherin was pretty dark wizard sir considering he made the Chamber of Secrets which held a Basalisk which traveled Hogwarts through the pipes is pretty dangerous considering just looking into their eyes could kill a person".

Faerilicious 09-22-2009 04:34 AM

OH! ONE MORE! "Salazar Slytherin? Does he count?" Well, he DID create the Chamber of Secrets. "And what about Loxias?"

PhoenixRising 09-22-2009 04:36 AM

Oh thank heavens this part of the lesson was over. Perhaps this was why History lessons were split between the older and younger students this term? Because he was sure that the prejudices would be even harder with all years there.

Smiling slightly at the boy claiming to be a centaur, the seventh year did have to give him credit for releasing some of the mounting tension in there.

Oh good. Taking a seat one of the cushions, Dominic listened as his classmates mentioned some of the more famous dark wizards and witches. Raising his hand, he answered another name that hadn't been mentioned yet. "Merwyn the Malicious." There were a few others that he could think of, but best to only mention one for now...

Daemon 09-22-2009 07:02 AM

Awww, poo. I missed all the fun.
 
One thing was for sure - History of Magic was definitely not boring at all today. Rachel's senses were aleart to each and every movement of her classmates and found herself feeling very uncomfortable with all the questions Truebridge was asking. The red line that had previously angered her so much? Now it just scared her.

She had thought that the pureblood mania was finished. Gone - no more. After the legendary Harry Potter, people should have learned that no good comes out of it. Yet Evolette McKenna and Willow Kovak were still standing on the other end of the line. On the part that stated that it should matter... But it SHOULDN'T!

Rachel had walked over and placed herself on the right side of the line from the very beginning and had stayed there until the very end. It really really scared her that not many people had joined her. She had no idea there were so many purebloods in her grade...

Then again, she didn't really think of blood status every day - thankfully. She, of course, had nothing to be ashamed of when concerning her muggle born status (although she IS stlightly ashamed of her family - about their own prejudice... The exact opposite to the one they were talking about) but it was still unnerving to be standing there with the lesser amount of people.

. . . Did he REALLY expect her to just jump back into the lesson like that, after such a DEEEEEP beginning? Shaking her head slightly, she leaned on the wall and kept silent - preferring not to take a seat. Taking a seat meant going back to reality and while this state she was in wasn't the most pleasant one, she wasn't ready to go back just yet.

Crystal Ball 09-22-2009 07:56 AM

Phoebus had stayed rather quiet the entire time during class; He'd been on the Muggleborn side of the line seeing as how neither of his parents were even remotely magical at all. Quite the surprise Phoebus had been, that was for sure. He moved on to the current topic and he raised his hand from where he sat. " Well, there were Alecto and Amycus Carrow." He said, and he paused to think again for a moment, hand still raised. " I'd think that they'd sort of...well qualify as Dark Wizards." He said, feeling a bit out of sorts and oddly defensive about how some people seemed to place so much importance on blood status. He was a Muggleborn and he never had any trouble with any of his subjects. Sure he might not like some of them, but he always managed to do better than a good deal of his classmates who were now being revealed to be Purebloods.

Antarctica 09-22-2009 08:20 AM

Kiri lowered herself onto one of the big cushions and crossed her legs awkwardly. She put her hand under her chin and watched as the other students chose somewhere to sit, thinking. Some of the views of some of them in the previous exercise had surprised her a little, but now that she came to think of it, as someone who had never spent much time even considering this (maybe from her comfortable position as a pure-blood), it was only to be expected that upbringing and personal experience changed how one saw the world.

What interested her the most was how people had looked when they'd stood... wherever they'd stood. Some seemed apologetic. Some defiant. And some had been really uncomfortable. Was that when character and experience didn't quite fit with what was the generally considered norm? On matters such as the importance of blood status?

She straightened up a little and raised her hand. "Professor, I believe there is also the, er... Gode...lots? Godelots? Father and son. They were owners of the Elder Wand. The father, er, used the Wand's power when he wrote Magick Moste Vile, didn't he?" Kiri paused. "No, I'm sorry, Most Evile. Anyway," she went on," he was killed by his son who wanted to possess the Elder Wand."
She paused again before continuing, "And I suppose the followers of all those Dark wizards could be added as well, even though, er, I don't really know any names."

PadfootAndTheWolf 09-22-2009 10:36 AM

Chris raised his hand and said, "What about all the wizards that were part of Voldemort's group the Death Eaters? And If you were wantinga more infamous Dark Wizard then Voldemort himself, or Grindenwald?" he said giving his answer.

Mad Eye Touz 09-22-2009 10:57 AM

Plymouth gave Copernicus the "going over there now" nod - and went to sit on a cushion "over there." He thought along the way, trying to think of someone old and/or dead and evil like everyone else had suggested. When Plymouth thought of old though, he only got one image. He raised his hand,


"Professor Kazimeriz - though we have since reconciled - is capable of evil. Hehe. I mean, who gives ear hair on the first day or school? Or turns their spy into a canary? ...Among other things. But I sure do like him either way. Suppose that doesn't make him DARK though... Never mind..." Then Plymouth went off into thoughts about associating with Dark Wizards and wondering if that made him one, too. He had hugged Kazi that one time...

dan arjay 09-22-2009 11:14 AM

Daniel was nodding at the answers his classmates had given. Then he raised his hand and said, "Professor, how about Regulus Black? Can he be counted eventhough he changed for the good in the end?"

kami12 09-22-2009 11:24 AM

Ray thought multiple times and listened to all the answers before it came to his mind... A bad wizard a bad werewolf. "Fenrir Greyback?" Ray answered.

Anna Banana 09-22-2009 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by NicoT (Post 8649314)
"I wonder if any of you are surprised at where you see your classmates chose to stand for those questions. There wasn't any pattern really was there? You certainly can't judge by house or by upbringing or by experience where someone will end up. That being said, for those of you who were brave enough to stand in some of the more difficult spots, thank you." Ethan glanced at Tino and shrugged, not at all concerned at the boy's apparent lack of participation. By saying he was a 'centaur' and refusing to stand on the line he was in fact participating anyway.

Certainly he broke the building tension.

"I suppose somewhere comfortable to sit might be nice." As Ethan said this a huge pile of cushions and beanbags appeared in the centre of the room.

"Because now that you are all thinking, we are going to get back to the topic at hand. We briefly talked about the associations of Slytherin house and the Dark Arts was mentioned. So now we are going to talk about Dark Wizards. Take a seat and tell me, who are some famous dark witches,wizards and warlocks in wizarding history?"

LouAnn didn't know most of her classmates, so she wasn't one-hundred percent sure who she should be surprised about or not, when it came to taking a stand on that line. So instead of looking too much into that, she she focused her attention on the pile of cushions and beanbags that had been summoned to the center of the classroom. She chose a comfortable looking beanbag and took a seat before raising her hand.

"Antonin Dolohov is a famous dark wizard," she replied. LouAnn's mother had discussed Dolohov with her and Lucas once while being home-schooled at the Purple's dining room table. Supposedly, the man was one of the earliest Death Eaters and was responsible for torturing a number of people.

Harmonizer 09-22-2009 02:10 PM

Berty Borr could easily have been regarded a Dark Wizard (although Samson was fond of him... most of the time), and so could the Minister of Magic, but Samson didn't think it wise to answer that, even when one Ravenclaw boy answered Professor Kazimeriz. He held back a snigger at that.

"Death eaters aren't as evil as Lord Voldemort or anything, but they count as Dark Wizards, don't they? Oh, and I remember my parents saying something about Gregory Crabbe, was it? Yeah, I think he was one of the students of Hogwarts in Harry Potter's time that used feindfyre. He wasn't very bright, no, but he was able to pull that spell off."

He held back another laugh, but he was serious about his answer.

Lissy Longbottom 09-22-2009 04:52 PM

Jack tapped his chin...a lot of the people were being taken already. Who else was a Dark Wizard? It was a bit disturbing, actually, as name after name was rattled off--that was a LOT of wizards gone bad. It was a bit unnerving, actually.

He raised his hand. "There was that one Yaxley fellow--I don't know his first name. He was really skilled in the Imperius Curse and he was able to keep that Thicknesse fellow under the charm and control the Ministry for Voldemort through that method," he explained. The fact that someone was SKILLED in an Unforgiveable Curse was...way scary. Yup.

He let out a snort as Plymouth mentioned Kazimeriz. That dude was SOOO a vampire! He completely agreed with the Ravenclaw--who knew what Kazimeriz's past was like? Jack figured it was something along the lines of dark magic and eating little first years. Yuppp.

Tommy'sGirl4ever 09-22-2009 05:01 PM

Audio fond a open seat on the cousins and plopped down, looking around the room as everyone began to speak of different dark wizards. A bunch of names started to list in his mind. He was taught a lot about that subject seeing as most of his family came from most of them. He found himself raising his hand after thinking of one that no one else had said, "The Gaunt family."

SilverTiger 09-22-2009 07:56 PM

Adrienne had placed herself on the pureblood side simply because that was what she was; both her parents were magical, and as far as she knew that made her (and Riley) a pureblood. But she couldn't help but feel bad as she saw Phoebus over on the Muggleborn side, and she kept glancing over at him. Then, as people continued listing off names, she raised her hand, especially as she noticed a bit of an error. "Well, as has been said, the Death Eaters were all capable of Dark magic. So you could definitely count the Carrows, Dolohov, Yaxley, Rowle, Macnair, the Lestranges, Lucius Malfoy, Pettigrew, Avery, Rookwood, Nott, Evan Rosier, all of them. But I'd also like to point out that it was Vincent Crabbe who cast fiendfyre in Harry Potter's time. I believe the stories say it was the Carrows who taught the spell to him, and it killed him in the end. So while he was a Dark magician, so to speak, he wasn't a very good one." She trailed off, starting to worry that she wasn't really making a valid point or anything, even though she thought she was accurate.

Daffy.Potter 09-22-2009 08:51 PM

People were soooo quick. It was unfair. But Livvy racked her brain for ideas, as she crossed her arms and tapped her foot on the floor as she thought about it. What other dark peeps were there? Everyone else had stated the basic ones. What was left for HER to say?

Ehh... Raising her hand, Livvy gave an answer. "Um. Would Circe count as one? I don't think that turning into a beast is particularly a delightful encounter. And Merwyn the Malicious... not too great of a person for inventing all those jinxes and hexes." What else? She thought so more for a few moments, searching for another famous dark wizard.

"Ooh. What about Barty Crouch Jr., sir? I believe he may have been involved in the Dark Arts one way or another," Livvy said. Hmm.

She chuckled gently at Plymouth's comment on Professor Kazimeriz being involved in the Dark Arts. The guy was CREEPY... that's fo sho... she'd give the boy that. And really... what professor gave a student ear hair on the first day? Apparently one that was like Kazimeriz.

MarcyMoo 09-22-2009 09:09 PM

So unfair! All the other students were naming people before she could even remember what a dark wizard was. But Nikki thought hard, trying to think of a dark wizard she had learned, read, or heard about. Finally thinking of someone, Nikki raised her hand. "Um Godelot Sr?" She said, unsure. "I think he owned the Elders Wand at some point." She added.

Con_Stripes 09-22-2009 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Eye Touz (Post 8649723)
Plymouth gave Copernicus the "going over there now" nod - and went to sit on a cushion "over there." He thought along the way, trying to think of someone old and/or dead and evil like everyone else had suggested. When Plymouth thought of old though, he only got one image. He raised his hand,


"Professor Kazimeriz - though we have since reconciled - is capable of evil. Hehe. I mean, who gives ear hair on the first day or school? Or turns their spy into a canary? ...Among other things. But I sure do like him either way. Suppose that doesn't make him DARK though... Never mind..." Then Plymouth went off into thoughts about associating with Dark Wizards and wondering if that made him one, too. He had hugged Kazi that one time...

Truebridge just turned to look at Plymouth and shook his head once.

If you can't say anything nice...



Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmonizer (Post 8650039)
Berty Borr could easily have been regarded a Dark Wizard (although Samson was fond of him... most of the time), and so could the Minister of Magic, but Samson didn't think it wise to answer that, even when one Ravenclaw boy answered Professor Kazimeriz. He held back a snigger at that.

"Death eaters aren't as evil as Lord Voldemort or anything, but they count as Dark Wizards, don't they? Oh, and I remember my parents saying something about Gregory Crabbe, was it? Yeah, I think he was one of the students of Hogwarts in Harry Potter's time that used feindfyre. He wasn't very bright, no, but he was able to pull that spell off."

He held back another laugh, but he was serious about his answer.

"You are mixing up Vincent Crabbe and Gregory Goyle; their fathers were indeed Deatheaters and dark wizards, but do you think casting a dark spell automatically makes someone a dark wizard? I'll add them to the list but we'll discuss it further." Truebridge answered.



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Originally Posted by Tommy'sGirl4ever (Post 8650513)
Audio fond a open seat on the cousins and plopped down, looking around the room as everyone began to speak of different dark wizards. A bunch of names started to list in his mind. He was taught a lot about that subject seeing as most of his family came from most of them. He found himself raising his hand after thinking of one that no one else had said, "The Gaunt family."

"Is it fair, do you suppose, to make a generalisation about a whole family? Was every Gaunt automatically dark? I'll add this one to the list but once again it will be a discussion point." Truebridge told the Slytherin boy.

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Originally Posted by Daffy.Potter (Post 8651539)
People were soooo quick. It was unfair. But Livvy racked her brain for ideas, as she crossed her arms and tapped her foot on the floor as she thought about it. What other dark peeps were there? Everyone else had stated the basic ones. What was left for HER to say?

Ehh... Raising her hand, Livvy gave an answer. "Um. Would Circe count as one? I don't think that turning into a beast is particularly a delightful encounter. And Merwyn the Malicious... not too great of a person for inventing all those jinxes and hexes." What else? She thought so more for a few moments, searching for another famous dark wizard.

"Circe was an expert in transfiguration. Doing something distasteful doesn't nearly constitute performing dark magic. Otherwise everyone one of you who have thrown a hex or a jinx or a curse would be considered dark wizards and that is simply not the case."

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Originally Posted by hermione9495 (Post 8651589)
So unfair! All the other students were naming people before she could even remember what a dark wizard was. But Nikki thought hard, trying to think of a dark wizard she had learned, read, or heard about. Finally thinking of someone, Nikki raised her hand. "Um Godelot Sr?" She said, unsure. "I think he owned the Elders Wand at some point." She added.

"Many of the owners of the Elder Wand could in fact be considered dark wizards."

Truebridge flicked his wand and a list appeared on the board.

Quote:


KNOWN DARK ARTISTS

Lord Voldemort (Tom Riddle)

Deatheaters:
Bellatrix Black/Lestrange and her husband
Peter Pettrigrew
Alecto and Amycus Carrow
Regulus Black
Fenrir Greyback
Antonin Dolohov
Crabbe/ his son Vincent
Goyle/ his son Gregory
Yaxley
Barty Crouch Jr
Bartemius Crouch Sr


The Gaunt Family


Hereward Godelot and his father
Gellert Grindelwald

Lord Voldemortist (Thomas Duskirk)

Morgan le Fay
Herpo the Foul
Emeric The Evil
Durmstrang students and professors
Merwyn the Malicious
Salazar Slytherin
Loxias


So, again; do you think casting a dark spell automatically makes someone a dark wizard? Is it fair to make a generalisation about a whole family?" Ethan asked the class as a whole.

"And what exactly makes a dark wizard dark anyway?"

Lissy Longbottom 09-22-2009 10:56 PM

Jack tapped his chin a couple of more times and raised his hand. "Well, I think that casting a dark spell doesn't necessarily make someone evil. Harry Potter tried to cast an Unforgiveable on Bellatrix Lestrange once, didn't he? But he wasn't a bad person, that can't be argued. I think that, to be a 'dark;' wizard," he added, using air quotes to try and make his point come across easier, "one has to cast dark spells with the intention of causing harm to someone. Anyone can cast a dark spell but that doesn't make them a bad person."

Well, that was his opinion, at least.


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