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Basic Arithmancy Lesson 2: The Core II As you enter the Arithmancy classroom, you notice the desks are covered with hundreds of color swatches and Professor Shackleon is pacing the front of the room with a eggplant-colored swatch in hand, comparing it to several different other colored swatches. As she notices the first students entering the room, she hurries to gather them all up and levitate them into a chest behind her desk. She then rushes to her desk and organizes the different invitation styles into a pile and neatly places them in the bottom desk drawer. She greets you with a smile, "Good afternoon. Come on in and have a seat. Please open your textbook to the chapter on the Destiny/Expression Number. We'll begin shortly." OOC: 1st-3rd years ONLY! |
YAY! Go, go Arithmancy! Fyo was literally BEAMING as he half bounced into the classroom, very clearly in an awesome mood. Because this class, people, this class was SO the love of his life. "Good day, professor," he said politely, sitting down in one of the front seats and opening his textbook as instructed. He couldn't wait for the lesson to begin, y'know - It was as good as chocolate, Arithmancy! |
Arithmancy was FUN! Well if you focused more in class and liked numbers then yeah, it was really fun. Cam skipped and skipped all the way from the Gryffindor Common Room or now it was really the Slytherdor Common Room all the way down to the Arithmancy classroom--yes he could skip that much because skipping was one of his natural born talents! When he walked into the room, he a glimpse of Shackleton levitating things! OOOH. What kind of things? But she put it somewhere where he couldn't see it. HMPH. "Hiiiii professaaaah!" He took a seat and opened the textbook he borrowed from one of the Gryffiesssss. Weee! |
Arithmancy, one class William was beginning to love. Walking into the classroom he smiled a bright smile to professor Shackleton as he said, "Good day professor!" in a cheery voice. Walking towards the middle of the room he sat down, pulling out his textbook and opening it to chapter two. He has already read the whole book during one of his more bored moments so he knew he was more than ready. |
A few days back Sydney attended her first Arithmancy Lesson & now she was standing at the door-step of the same classroom for her second lesson...Woah! Doesn't time fly? "Good Morning, Professor" Sydney said, smiling. She paced towards one of the front row benches...she liked sitting in front. Placing her bag on the bench, Sydney sat down and started to dig inside her bag.."What? NO quill!" Sydney said frowning... "Errr...Excuse me.. Do you have spare quill?" She said politely to a student sitting on a near-by bench.... Sydney took out her book and opened the chapter indicated by the Professor, waiting patiently for further instructions.. |
Aaron walked into Arithmancy once again and saw his proffesor in the front of the room. He gave him a smile and a "Hello, Professor Shackleton!" He then went to a seat, sat down and opened up his book to chapter seven. Time for another fun lesson! |
Victoria walked into her second arithmancy lesson, she found a seat and waited for her friends. |
Jule was excited for Arithmancy. It caught her interest since the first lesson. She saw Vicky and went to sit next to her. She then opened her text book to the chapter on Destiny/Expression Number. |
Mariel smiled upon entering the Arithmancy classroom. "Hello, Professor," she greeted cheerfully as she looked for a seat at the front of the classroom. Oooh, what was she doing? Mariel's steps slowed as she curiously watched Professor Shackleton levitating something colorful. She always knew such cool spells, which reminded her that she still needed to ask her about those hairstyling spells she witnessed last term. Shaking herself out of her reverie, the third year quickly sat down and opened her textbook. Quote:
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Entering the classroom, Lyra was having a inner thought fight, 'ok Lyra you may not be good at numbers but you can do it! yes.....no...yes!...yes?' She shook her head and without really thinking where she was walking, she found a seat at the middle of the classroom. "Good Afternoon, Professor" she greeted with a small smile while taking out her textbook and layed it on the desk. 'Destiny and expression huh?' she flipped the pages till she found the page she needed and decided to lean back in her chair before class started. |
Stretching her back by twisting side to side, Professor Shackleton tried to release the tension from her body before beginning the lesson. She'd been hunched over her desk inspecting invitations and color swatches for too long. "Okay class, let's get started. Today's lesson is a continuation of our study of the Core - the Expression/Destiny Number. Are there any questions about what we covered last lesson or about anything in general before we get started?" |
Aaron was still a bit confused about the last lesson. So he raised his hand. "Professor, could you please give a brief review about the last lesson. I'm still a bit confused. A small summary would help." It is unlike Aaron to be confused about a subject. But, it was the first class of the year, he must have been overly excited and not paid attention that mcuh. |
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She wished she could have gone into greater detail, but they'd already covered that material and she couldn't spend too much more time on it. "Alright, so let's begin. What is the Expression/Destiny Number? What information can we get from it?" |
Demetria's hand shot up. "The Expression/Destiny Number describes your life's purpose and what you are destined for." she explained. She wrote her answer down in her notes after she said it. |
Fyo raised his hand, managing - with difficulty, mind you - not to beam. GAH! Why couldn't he be less happy about being in Arithmancy? "It's one of the elements of the core, professor," he said politely. "As the name says, it details our destiny - the aims and objectives of our life; the expectations we must live up to, and the work and lifestyle choices we need to adopt, during it; and the place or places we are fated to, or can, reach." |
Cedric raised his hand,"It shows your life purpose,the target you are aiming for means to the things you want or aim for in life and also the field of work that will get along to your life path and it also shows what kind of opportunities that will be best for you." |
"Thank you, sir." Aaron apreciated that he did that for him. He was probably the only one who forgot. Ughhh... AAron took a look in his book, reworded it a bit, and raised his hand. "Sir, it is an element in the Core that describes your purpose, opprotunities for success, qualaties you should develop, your destiny, and the work that would be natural for your life path." Ugh! Right out of the book. Surely he would get a big WRONG for just copying the answer right out of the book. |
Herminny raised her hand and said, "You're expresion/destiny number represents what one is meant to do in life and what sort of skills one should achieve in order to use those skills to persue a career meant to be good for one's life path number.". |
Satine was beginning to love this class and shot her hand into the air, "Professor, your destiny/expression number helps you determine what your future holds for you and what you should do with your life." she finished with a smile. |
Ivy flipped in her text until she found the correct chapter. She liked the idea that numbers could help her figure out her life goals. She took out her quill and began taking notes. |
"Professor, isn't the Destiny number what you should work for in your life. Like it says what you should work for and what your life mission is? Ash askes rasing her hand |
Expression Number? This shouldn't be a problem as Sydney had read her Arithmancy book thoroughly last night.. Sydney raised her hand.. "Professor, Destiny Number describes the talents and attitudes at our disposal in this lifetime, if we choose to develop and use them. It is sometimes referred to as our potential or destiny. Living up to virtues of this number may not be easy, but it is our goal & Unlike the Life Path number which reads as we ARE, the Destiny number more correctly reads as we MUST" She said, slightly out of breath & hoped that her answer wasn't too far-fetched.. |
Natka raised her hand to answer the question, her hand holding open the textbook for reference. "The Destiny or Expression Number symbolises your utlimate goal in life, it gives you the reson that you're alive in the first place. It also indicates any chances you might have of being successful, and they way you should live your life to achieve these," she replied. |
Varius raised his hand, "Well, just going by the name miss I am sure it will calculate someoness thoughts and feelings toward a particular someone or something . For instance, I coud go OH MAGIC NUMBERSIES! TELL ME! WHAT DOES PROFESSOR SHACKLETON THINK OF MY SPIFFY TIE!" He grinned, "And I am sureeee, the number would tell me you LOVED it. Hm? Is that right???" |
Lyra raised her hand in the air. "Professor, doesn't the Destiny/expression number describe the talents and attitudes in this lifetime?" she asked |
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Using her hands to push herself up onto the desk, Professor Shackleton took a seat in the middle of her desk with her legs crossed at the ankles and her hands folded in her lap. She elaborated, "If someone told you that by living a certain way, you were guaranteed success, you'd want to know how to do it right? Well, that is what the Destiny Number can do for you. It can tell you what the best direction will be to take in order to obtain your major accomplishments. Most importantly, it points the way to living a fulfilled life. "As your classmates mentioned, it describes your purpose in life. Both opportunities and inner resources will come from this Core Number. It describes the area of your life that must be explored, developed, and embraced for your soul to grow to its full potential and for you to be whole. Sounds like a lot to live up to, doesn't it?" Professor Shackleton twisted at the waist and leaned back so that she could reach the top drawer of her desk. She pulled out a large bag of peppermint toads and closed the drawer behind her. Arranging herself in her original position, Macadrian took one toad out of the bag and began eating. She spoke to the class after swallowing, "Now, how to do we calculate the Destiny/Expression Number? There is a peppermint toad going to the people who get it right!" |
Demetria raised her hand. "Well first you write out your full name, then you use the codes to calculate which number is for each letter, then you add the numbers of each of your names together, reducing ofcourse, then you add all of the numbers together and whichever single digit number ends up being the product is your Destiny Number." she explained. She hoped that was right. Dem had said it off the top of her head. She reallllly wanted a peppermint toad. |
Cedric raised his hand,"Using the full name listed on your birth certificate, lay out your name and assign the appropriate number to each letter using the chart given in Chapter Two of this text. Figure each name separately, then add the reduced total of each name - first, middle(s), and last, then reduce that number to its single digit root number."Cedric answered reading the details in his textbook |
Sydney raised her hand.."The number is derived from all of the letters in our full name, Professor. To get our Destiny number, we take each name separately and add up the letter values using the chart shown in our textbooks. Then we reduce each name to a single digit or master number and finally add the results of all the names to arrive at a total which we once again reduce to a single digit." Sydney said with a smile.. |
Herminny raised her hand again hoping she would be recognized this and said, "You assign each letter of you're first, middle,and last name usinng the Pythagorian number system and add then reduce each name seperately, then add each of the reduced numbers of each name and reduce that number to a single digit and tou have you're expression/destiny number.". |
Natka raised her hand once more, her mouth watering at the mention of Peppermints. Mhmm, more sweets, more lovely, cool, delicious peppermints... She shook her head, forcing herself to focus on answering the question first. Then she could go onto daydreaming about peppermints. "In order to work the Destiny Number out, you'd first need to write out your name, the way it's written in your birth certificate. Then, substitute each of the letters with a number using the chart in the textbook. Once you've done this, you add up the numbers in each part of your name seperately, and then add them together until you're left with the root number," Natka answered. She was growing to like Arithmacy more and more these days. |
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"I'm REALLY sorry, professor," he said in the most apologetic way he could. "It's just that, my dad taught me to say 'sir' to all my professors. And, since all my teachers in primary school were men, I developed this bad habit." It was true, he did. He said sir to everyone. one time, Aaron's class had a female substitute and he said sir even then. UGH! HOW EMBARASSING!!! "And ma'am, you can find it by using your full name and assign each letter it's number by using the chart in chapter two. Do each name seperatly, then add the reduced total of each name, then reduce it to the root number." Ugh, Another answer strait out of the book. Hey, i'm not cheating, I'm just using my resources. |
Okay, okay, okay! Grace had studied this time. Because she really liked this lesson. So she knew the answer for the first time in this school! A big yay and congrats for her! Not caring the other students had already answered, 'cause she was dying to answer a question, she raised her hand very fast and shouted a muffled "Ouch!", she had hit it to the edge of the desk while raising it with that excitement, she said "We use our full name. Each letter has a number on a special chart which can be looked at chapter II of our book. First figure the number of each name, and reduce meanwhile of course, then add all the sums together and reduce again to single digit root number!" She had to control herself not to smile with pleasure. She may have some wrong parts, but she was positive that she understood the whole right. |
Satine shot her hand into the air, "To calculate your destiny number, you first write out your certificate the way it can be found on your birth certificate. Then, substitute each of the letters with a number using the Pythagorian number system in Chapter Two of the book. And then finally, add up the numbers of each part of your name and reduce them down until you're left with the root number, thus equaling your destiny number." wow that was a mouth full she thought. |
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Placing the bag of candy in her lap, Macadrian began to explain, "Your birth name can give a wealth of information. Your first name gives you the most personal lessons; your middle name reveals hidden abilities that you don't necessarily like; your last name tellsof the characteristics you've inherited from your family. And all together, you get the Destiny Number, which is what we are focusing on. "Now, your classmates mentioned that we use the name on our birth certificates when figuring the Destiny Number. What if the name on the certificate is different from how you've been spelling it all your life? What do you think you do then?" |
Natka caught the peppermint imp in midair with a grin. Sweets! She had always had a sweet tooth as a child, like any other, but she was still as sugar-craving as any six-year-old out there. Mmm, de-li-cious... she thought. Oh, Professor Shackleton was speaking again... Natka raised her hand, albeit a bit hesitantly. The situation the professor had just described sounded a bit... problematic. "It would be up to the person which name they prefer to use, which they'd consider more 'real', so to say, which they would think suits them better?" she suggested. "After all, you can always change the name on your birth certificate, but it's much harder to get people to start calling you by a different name, or start thinking of yourself under a different name." |
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Sarah had no idea what they were talking about so she decided to make something up, she wasn't very good at things like this. "Eh Professor did they make some sort of mistake on the birth certificates and then they couldn't be bothered to fix it." She giggled. "Or maybe they thought it would be funny to do it differently on the birth certificate." |
Grace now did smile widely. Her very first answer was true. She caught the toad. Mmm... It was the most delicious sweet she'd ever eaten though she couldn't tell whether it was because a teacher's gift or a magic sweet. Hmm... It was a tricky situation. With wrong names on birth certificate, there was only one explaination-that person was intended to be called something else. And everyone called you that way... So your name was it then. Nobody'd check your certificate, right? But then, the directions were clear. The name on your first certificate... Grace made up her mind and raised her hand. "Well, I'd say it depends on how people are called, but the book says it clear: The name on your birth certificate. So I think we still need to check our birth certificate." She hoped her answer was true. The Ravenclaw girl's answer made more sense to her, but many people had nicknames and their future couldn't rely on those. An offical paper was better. She hoped so. |
Demetria raised her hand. "You would still use your birth name, wouldn't you?" she said. "It's the original name you were givin, therefore I think if you used anything else it wouldn't be accurate." |
Professor Shackleton smirked as she listened to the class split fairly evenly down the middle, "Aha! You see the dilemma? It is important to remember that despite how you may spell your name, if it is different on your birth certificate, you go with what is listed on your certificate! For example, I had a classmate when I was here at Hogwarts who used to spell her name Ann, A-n-n. Then, we started taking Arithmancy together and during the winter holidays, she went home to see her parents. She decided to practice her Arithmancy calculations and asked her parents to retrieve her birth certificate. Lo and behold, her name was actually spelled with an 'e', as in A-n-n-e! She'd been spelling her own name wrong for years! "Moral of the story? Be sure you know how to spell your name the way it is written on your birth certificate because that is the name that counts in Arithmancy." Professor Shackleton hopped off the desk and began walking to her left across the front of the room, "Now, what about the situation where you've been adopted and you know your original birth name? Which one counts then when figuring your Destiny Number?" |
Dem raised her hand. "I think you would still use your birth name. Even though you were adopted, the name you have is not your original name that was on your birth certificate." she said. "Like you said before, not using the name on your birth certificate when calculating your Destiny number could be crucial." Dem explained. She then began smiling at the stroy of the girl who spelled her name wrong. That's something I would probably do. Note to self: make sure I've been spelling my name correctly. |
Herminny raised her hand and said, "The name on you're original birth certificate is the only one that counts regardless to figure out one's destiny/ expression number, isn't it professor?". |
"I would say both Professor." Smiled Sarah . "You would surely just get the same name, since when you are adopted you still use your original name don't you?" She was confused. "But if you do change your name you would surely use your original name." She was realy confused. |
Grace was right again. 'Okay, don't overwhelm much with excitement.' But it was hard. Now more confident, she shot her hand up again. "The first name we got. The original one." she said. It must be the right answer if she construed the previous question right. |
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"Professor,I think that you would use the name that you have been given, like in the case of Ann who had been misspelling her name for years." Ash said raising her hand |
William had listened with intense interest as he began writing things down on his parchment, his blue eyes searching out more information. He nodded at one students answer but decided to throw his in as well. "Um professor, what if you were adopted at birth and you grew up with the name your foster parents gave you and you never found out what your real name is? If you use the name your foster parents gave you, you would never get an accurate account would you?" He paused in his question, thinking it over and trying to figure out if the question had been asked already. "I'm sorry if this has been addressed already ma'am. |
Fyo had to agree that most of the students were right, but he had his own thoughts on the whole matter. Think out-of-the-box, yup, that was the way he'd been brought up. He raised his hand, rather thoughtfully. "I believe one should use one's original name - the one on the birth certificate, that is," he began. "But I also think it might not be that bad an idea to use one's "new" name. I mean, ma'am, if names can have such a great effect on our personality, and we have a new name, wouldn't that somehow change our life? It's like.. If people keeping calling you 'soft,' you try to act that way, but if they've labelled you a bully and you like that, you're generally meaner in the future, just to keep up to that reputation. What I'm trying to say is that if you have a new name, couldn't you just use that for the calculations? Because in some ways, you have a new personality now - you just aren't who you once were: you have a new family, you're living with different people, maybe adopting lifestyle choices you might not have if your real parents were there. Wouldn't that make some sort of effect on the whole thing?" |
Naomi raised her hand. "You would use the name on your birth certificate. IE the name you were originally given just like in the cases of misspelling." |
Cedric just finish eating his peppermint candy then he raised his hand,"Using your birth certificate,of course,cause the certificate one contains very exact and original infos about you while some names that we are using for years is just like the case of misspelling and maybe they are nicknames given for us when we are such a baby.." "Anyway,In other cases,Certificates also has errors cause sometimes the one who is writing about the infos of people's name were misspelled the name of the people so your parents need to contact the administrator of that sort of thing so they can sort your misspelled named on you're birth certificate." |
Natka looked up at the Professor's explanation, rather surprised. She'd been sure that the name one used for themselves should be the one used in calculations... Oh, well. Looks like she was wrong on this one. "When one has been adopted... well, if the name has been changed by the adoptive parents, you still use the one on your original birth certificate, the name given to you by your birth parents," she replied, following the logic of the previous question. Something else just occured to her, however. "Professor, what if your birth parents never named you, and you name was given to you by your adoptive parents... is that valid?" she asked. |
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"Class, if you know your original birth name and you were adopted and given a new name, you use the original name to figure your official profile. Consider the original name the true essence of who you are. However, you will also want to figure a second profile for your adopted name, which is the energy you drew to you to work within this lifetime. In this type of situation, you will certainly have grown up living out the adopted name and so you'll want to see what energy has been influencing your life with this name. Then, with the two profiles you can piece together the story of who you really are." Quote:
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Quickly shuffling over to her desk, Professor Shackleton took a sip from her mug, jotted a note about housepoints, and asked the next question, "So, what do we do with those babies who were given a name at birth and then their parents had a revelation and changed the baby's name within a day or two after birth? How do we handle this situation?" |
Varius raised his hand, "I think it would rely on the first name put on the birth certificate, whether that is the first name the parents chose or the name they decided upon later." "... and then when the baby gets older... have them chastise their parents for being so darn indecisive!" |
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Aaron thought hard about this one. Tricky. "Ma'am, you would go with the new name, because your original parents with the same experiences obviously went through more experiences to decide a name change. thus, changing your Destiny number. Had they no gone through those new experiences, your life would be a lot different." Shazam! Great answer. |
Herminny raised her hand and said, "So many intresting scenarios this class but in this case yet again there is an original birth certificate name and according to the expression/destiny number that is the name to use regardless.". |
Satine raised her hand, "Professor, I have to agree with Aaron, you would go with the new name because the parents are still the ones in charge of the name and they may have seen something that fits the child better, but only if they haven't put a name on a certificate yet. However, if the parents had already put the first name on the birth certificate and then changed it, they should use the first name." wow she hoped that made sense out loud. |
Naomi was not sure of which name was to be used but she liked the idea of the second one. "I agree with Satine and Aaron, you would use the second name." |
Up to this point Mariel had been unusually silent in Arithmancy class because, quite honestly, she was slightly confused. She wasn't sure which name to use for any of Professor Shackleton's questions because she could see the rationale in using either. So instead of voicing her answers which would have just seemed confuddled anyway, she settled for furiously scribbling down notes on her parchment. She may not have had the correct answer to begin with, but she would have it in her notes. Upon hearing the last question, the 14 year old though for a moment, then listened to the others' contributions. Raising her hand, she offered, "I agree with..." random Gryffindor boy whose name she did not know "him." She gestured towards Fyo. He had made a good point about the second name being on the birth certificate. "You would go with what was listed on the birth certificate..." At least that's what seemed to be the current trend with the answers today, "but if the parents changed their child's name so close to birth, couldn't they have the name changed on the birth certificate? I mean, it could be reissued, right? And then you would go by that changed document... I think." Completely unsure now, she put her hand down and readied her quill to write down the correct answer in her notes. |
Cedric raised his hand again,"The other parents can process about the late registration thing so the first one will be ignored and the latest will be the exact thing." |
Trixie slowly raised up her quivvering hand. Arithmancy was never her strong point. "Well I guess that original name on their birth certificate since that is what the baby was known as at first. They were about to take on life with that name and the change of the baby's name was an abrupt change. So changing the name does not influence it." She was not sure if she was correct but it was worth a go. |
Victoria put her hand up "Professor, you would use the first name they picked because it would be the name on the birth certificate." |
This candy was soo delicious. Grace smiled at the professor and took it. Okay, another tricky question. Most of the class was saying that the second name was the right one... Grace frowned. She didn't think so. A little nervous, she raised her hand and said "I think the time doesn't affect it. Just like in the adoption situation, the first name is the true essence and the second name is the influence. It's the same scenario in either situation, the name on birth certificate is changed. Just in a different amount of time." She tried at least, right? |
Demetria shoved the peppermint toad in her mouth and thought over the question. Ooo that's a toughy..... after swallowing the delicious candy, she raised her hand. "They would still use their original name, wouldn't they professor? If it was the original name they were givin, even if the parents changed it afterwards, then that is the name they should use. Or, like you said before, couldn't they maybe combine the two names and put them together?" she asked. "Oh I have a question." she raised her hand again. "I know this is kind of a weird question, but what if the child was givin a name, then the parents changed it, then they were adopted? Would they combine all three names?" she asked. |
Natka thought about this one. Her cousin, Vera, the one she was researching Unicorns for... she'd had her name changed soon after birth, originally having been names Alissa. But she was just ten, and natka doubted whether Vera felt lost or unsure of who she was just yet. "My cousin had that situation... you probably use the original, preliminary name, right?" she said, raising her hand. "The first one that occured to the parents I mean." |
Entirely impressed by the students' reasoning and not surprised that there was a fairly even split amongst opinions, Professor Shackleton clarified, "Ready for the official answer? If the name change was made official and the birth certificate was also changed shortly after birth, the NEW name is considered your original name. If no change was ever made on the birth certificate, than the first name would be considered the original name. You will, however, find it interesting to work out the "would-be" name in either scenario and see what energy that name would have carried for you. "Points to the houses whose students answered correctly. Also, everyone gets a peppermint toad for trying - just come up here and reach in the bag." Quote:
"I have two more scenarios for you. First one, what if your name has a Jr. or Sr. or uses Roman numerals after your name? Do you include them in your calculations?" |
Victoria walked over to get a peppermint toad, she went back to her desk and thought about the next question. |
Satine took a bite of her toad as she thought about the answer to the Professor's question and then finally raised her hand. "Professor, thanks for the great treats today! I think you would have to factor them into your final calculations because these extras to your name also make you who you are in the future." she put her hand down and ate the rest of her treat! these were amazing! |
William smiled sheepishly, before raising his hand again, "I'd say yes professor. It's part of who you are, there must be a good reason why your parents put in the Jr Sr or roman numerals after all." He replied in a confident voice. |
Herminny put yet anoth pepermint imp in her bag because as stange as it may be she was not a child who liked sweets much. She listened to the next question and then raised her hand to give her two-sense and said, "Yes, I do believe you would caculate the jr or sr or Roman numeral into the caculation because it does appear on the birth certificate and it is part of the persons identity. But professor I have a question, how would one caculate Roman numerals with there name to get there destint/expresion number. I mean Roman numerals have no letters to get a number from Pythagorian number system so would you just treat it as a number, or use the number word like I-1-one to figure it out?". |
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Aaron looked over at Iris as she gave her answer. When she was done Aaron mouthed the words good job to her. Unfortunetly, Aaron had a different opinion. He raised his hand and said, "Professor, I think it would be whatever is on the birth certificate. If there are jr.'s and roman numerals then I think you would calculate it. By the way, professor. Are there jr.'s and roman numerals on birth certificates?" Aaron didn't even know if they were or not. He looked over at Iris again to see how she thought of his answer. |
Mariel nodded at the younger Slytherin boy's answer. It seemed as if you always went with what was on the birth certificate. "Again, I think you should go with what's on the birth certificate," she offered with a raise of her hand. "I think Junior and the like may be found on the official record... But not Senior since that child's parents would have no way of knowing if he would go on to have his own child or even name him after himself, so that wouldn't be on a birth certificate." Shrugging as she thought she might be rambling a bit, the 14 year old turned back to her notes. |
"Professor, I think that you would use the Jr. in your name because it is a part of your name, that is on your birth certificate" Ash said raising her hand |
Xehanna had been quiet most of class but finally thought she knew the answer. She raised her hand then said "Wouldn't you still use the exact name on the birth certificate? That's how you figured it out so you would still use the same way." she said feeling very smart but hoping she was right. |
Cedric raised his hand,"Umm,I bet that we should conclude and use it in our calculations,Prof.Roman numerals uses the letter of the alphabet right so we can also give the appropriate number to those roman numerals.." |
Dem went up and took another peppermint toad. I knew there was a reason I liked this class. she thought to herself. She raised her hand again. 'You would use the numerals, right? Because you destiny would be different then your father or your father's father." she said. |
Professor Shackleton smirked and faked an evil laugh, "Mwahahaha! I see that I have tricked you all! Any name that has these addenda of junior, senior, or Roman numerals - we disregard them! They do not provide us with personalized information about you, and thus, are not useful. "So, if that is the case, what does that mean for one's Arithmancy profile as compared to a parent or grandparent with the same name? Same? Different? How so?" |
Satine thought about the new scenario the Professor had presented as she ate her toad...she raised her hand timidly, "Well, I would say that if we are just determining the destiny number which only uses the letters of the name then if they have exactly the same name from first to middle to last then it would be the same, but their other core numbers would differ because of birth dates, etc." she hoped she was right and didn't sound stupid. |
Aaron WAS going to say that it would be the same, but then he heard Satine's answer. He never would have thought of that. So he raised his hand and said, "I agree with Satine, ma'am." He then preceded to count up all his frogs he recieved that day so far. Hmmm... DO you think Iris would accept these as her winnings from the bet? he thought to himself. |
He frowned, it made sense to him now, at least he thought it did. Writing that bit of information down he put his hand up. "If they're the same then I don't think it would make a difference, except for the middle names. If they're different, like one from the mother, one from the father with slight variances in the way its spelled than I'm assuming it'll be slightly different from their parents Destiny Number." He rattled off. |
Iris raised her hand again. "Well, Professor, when I was reading my text book, I read somewhere that everything - the life number, the destiny number etc... get put together to determine your overall path thing. so your over all Arithmancy profile would differ from that of your parents'." she said, cursing herself for forgetting what it was called - after all she was only a first year, surely it wasn't that bad to not completely remember everything, she hoped it still made sense though, "Also, like Satine just said, we have middle names, which are chosen by our parents because they thought it suited us, so if we included those when calculating our destiny number, then we would end up with a different number to our parents or grandparents." she added, hoping dearly that her answer was some what correct. |
Cedric raised his hand,"Its depend on the person ,Even if their name was the same as others,it will be different cause of the abilities,personalities they posses inside.Everyone one of us had different personality so even if we had same names including its spellings and pronounciation,It will still be different because like everyone said,Our life is in our hands"Cedric explained hoping that it would suffice.How tricky Profffff MAAAAAAAAAAC,I shouldn't give my best answer to your last question. |
Demetria raised her hand. "Ok so if we cancel out Roman numerals, and to find your Destiny Number you add together the numbers of your name, then wouldn't you have the same destiny as everyone esle with your name? Because adding your birthdate to it would make it incorrect right?" |
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Professor Shackleton nodded in agreement, "Precisely! Take a peppermint toad!" Professor Shackleton informed the class, "As Satine has stated, if we are strictly speaking about the Destiny Number, it will be the same as any other person with the exact same name as you. However, the entire Arithmancy profile would not be the same at all because many numbers are calculated using your date of birth, which would be entirely different from a parent or grandparent with the same name. Within the Core, the Life Path Number would be entirely different and so how the Destiny Number fits in with the Life Path would completely be altered versus a parent. And so, while many things will be common to those with the same exact names, there will also be many differences." She gave the students enough time to take notes before concluding, "What I want you all to gather from our discussion is that the name on the birth certificate is always the name you use to calculate the official Destiny Number and that addenda like Jr. or Sr. are not factored into the calculation. Are there any questions up until this point?" |
Iris quickly made some notes about what Professor Shackleton was saying, Iris really didn't want to forget any of it. The then put her quill down and thought about every thing. Nopes, she pretty much understood it, meaning no questions to ask. |
Satine smiled at the Professor, "Thank you for another toad, Professor." She took the toad and started eating eat. These things were great. She wrote down everything the Professor said and knew that she actually understood what was going on. She was liking this class a lot. |
Isabella who had some confusion seemed to be cleared about her doubts...so no doubts till here...she waited for the professor... |
Oooh, professor had beaten Grace! She knew the answer, just it her too long to put her thoughts in order. Grace sighed and dropped her hand to the desk, disappointed. She didn't have any questions, so she just waited for her to ask another scenario. |
Since there seemed to be no questions, Professor Shackleton pressed on, "Someone please refresh my memory of how we calculate the Destiny Number. Perhaps a step-by-step breakdown?" She looked imploringly about the classroom, wondering which student would be the first to take a chance at answering. While she waited, she tapped her feet in an upbeat rhythm and half danced across the front of the classroom. |
Herminny raised her hand for like the umpteenth time and said, "You caculate the destiny number by assigning each of the letters of you're first, middle and last name a number based on the Pythagorian number system. From there you add up you're first middle and last name seperately till you have two or three one digit numbers based an whether you have a middle name or not. From there you add the 2 or three digit numbers together till you are left with one one digit number and that is you're destiny number. |
Cedric raised his hand."First assign each letter's number using the pythagorean system designed by Pythagoras.Then add your first name,middle name then last name using the reducing method then adding together.At last,add the remaining numbers using then numbers you get in your name,At that point,you'll get your destiny number.Want some examples,Prof Shackleton?" |
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Sydney raised her hand after reading the steps, "Professor, I'll like to do it" She said & walked over to the board and started calcullating the Destiny Number for Professor. Shackleton. Quote:
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Cedric raised his hand ready to give the best answer that he can,He gently come to the board then he started calculating their Professor Mac's destiny number Quote:
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Iris scribbled the method down, then wrote down Shackletons full name down on a piece of paper, before working it out on the paper, completly ignoring the people getting up. She then stood up and copied her calculations onto the board: Quote:
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Natka walked up to the board as instructed, focusing on the copy of the chart she'd made. She thought about it for a moment before raising a hand to write down the appropriate numbers next to their assigned letters. M = 4 A = 1 C = 3 A = 1 D = 4 R = 9 I = 9 A = 1 N = 5 A = 1 S = 1 H = 8 L = 3 I = 9 N = 5 G = 7 S = 1 H = 8 A = 1 C = 3 K = 2 L = 3 E = 5 T = 2 O = 6 N = 5 4 + 1 + 3 + 1 + 4 + 9 + 9 + 1 + 5 = 37 = 3 + 7 = 10 = 1 + 0 = 1 1 + 1 + 8 + 3 + 9 + 5 + 7 = 34 = 3 + 4 = 7 1 + 8 + 1 + 3 + 2 + 3 + 5 + 2 + 6 + 5 = 36 = 3 + 6 = 9 1 + 7 + 9 = 17 = 1 + 7 = 8 Stepping back, Natka observed her work critically, making sure she'd made no mistakes. Finding none, she turned around to see what the Professor had to say about it. It was eight... right? |
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