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Clifford struggled to keep up with what Professor Lupa was explaining, and scibbled his notes so fast he accidentally splattered in on his nose. Ack. This was starting to get UBER confuzzling.

Where does the word rue come from, and what does it mean?

Once again, Clifford slowly raised his arm, willing to give it a try. "Uhm - the word rune comes from the Old Norse word Runa, I think Professor." He started hesitantly, brow furrowed. "It means secret. Or mystery."
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Mackenzie finally knew an answer, or at least she thought she did. "Does it come from an old Norse word?" she asked as she raised her hand. She hoped she was right. "Perhaps one that means mystery or secret?" She finally thought of the actual word. "The word it's derived from is Runa right?"
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Ana raised her hand "Attested on a 6th century Alammanic runestaff as runa, the name is from a root run- (Gothic runa), meaning "secret" or "whisper""
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Robert raised his hand. ''I believe the word 'Rune' Comes from the Nordic Word 'Runa' Meaning 'Mystery' Or 'Secret'. '' He said and hoped he got it right.
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Ruby raised her hand and said " is it Most of the early runes from the Scandinavian countries are assumed to be in the Proto-Norse, the common ancestor language of the modern North Germanic languages. No distinction is made in surviving runic inscriptions between long and short vowels"
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"Very good, Prefect. two points." Alessia told her.

"They were horse-riding nomadic pastoralists who dominated the Pontic steppe throughout Classical Antiquity. They were a mix of Asians and perhaps North African tribes who plundered and pillaged their way towards Europe." She said and made the map roll back up. "So how is this nation important to the origin of Runes? Well, the Scythian tribesmen used wooden sticks as a form of divining. The ceremony was very ritualistic and one of the first ways of divining. This method moved north with the spread of the Scythian people. Some of you already mentioned the Greek historian Herodotus, who spoke about this method of divination. This gave the start to runes. Does anyone know where the word Rune comes from and what it means for that matter?" Alessia asked.
Anna perked up a bit and smiled when she was awarded two points for her answer. Wow. Maybe she hadn't hit rock bottom in Ancient Runes after all. Anna listened to the professor discuss the Scythians and then raised her hand when another question was asked. "The word Rune comes form the word Runa, which means 'secret' or 'mystery,'" she said.
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Melanie scribbled down notes frantically trying to finish before they went on to the next matter. The professor went on to another question and Melanie paused on her notes and looked up. She decided she may as well guess on it. "I think, professer, that it originated from the Germanic. -
Run was where the word originated. It's old English. Oh, and the word runa ... which means whispering. Rune has about the same definition." Melanie answered, seriously hoping this was not complete non- sense she had dreamed up. the second part at least everyone else had said, but the first was sort of something she thought she knew... She could hardly believe the words had exited her mouth, but she did like to read and there were tons of old books that had weird words in them.
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"The word “rune” means mystery, secret or whisper." Miles said with his hand rasied, and giving up with trying to write notes. He would deal with them later.
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Lyra raised her hand and decided that she would answer. "Runes comes from the word Runa which means secret or mystery." Before she should have went with her other answer as Germany was it, but she placed too much though in the question and instead lost out on the right answer.
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Miranda actually knew this one! She raised her hand. "It came from the word 'runa', meaning secret, or mystery." she paused. "And it's origin...the word came from...um...is it Nordic??"
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Keefer rummaged through his textbook and picked a spot at random. Hmm.. they definitely weren't to the point of translating yet... Trying a more conventional method, he turned to a page the rest of the students had opened to. He gazed about the page, casting his eyes around for something about the origin of the word 'rune.'

Seeing what he was looking for, Keefer stuck both hands up into the air (why did everyone only raise one?). "Professor, I see here that 'rune' comes from a Nordic word 'runa'.. so my guess is Norway." He was pleasantly satisfied with his answer. Wait, hadn't she also asked what it meant? Before she had a chance to move onto another student, Keefer belted out, "Wait! And it means either secret or mystery!" he hurriedly told the professor.

Some would be embarrassed by such a mistake, but not Keefer. He was carelessly impervious to any form of whispering, staring, or criticism.
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""They were horse-riding nomadic pastoralists. They were a mix of Asians and perhaps North African tribes who plundered and pillaged their way towards Europe." She said and made the map roll back up. "So how is this nation important to the origin of Runes? Well, the Scythian tribesmen used wooden sticks as a form of divining. The ceremony was very ritualistic and one of the first ways of divining. This method moved north with the spread of the Scythian people. Some of you already mentioned the Greek historian Herodotus, who spoke about this method of divination. This gave the start to runes. Does anyone know where the word Rune comes from and what it means for that matter?" Alessia asked.
The word, Rune, has its origins in the Old Norse & Old English word rūn mystery, runic character, writing; akin to Old High German rūna secret discussion, Old Irish rún mystery.

I found four definitions for the word rune:

1. any of the characters of certain ancient alphabets, as of a script used for writing the Germanic languages, esp. of Scandinavia and Britain, from c200 to c1200, or a script used for inscriptions in a Turkic language of the 6th to 8th centuries from the area near the Orkhon River in Mongolia.
2. something written or inscribed in such characters.
3. an aphorism, poem, or saying with mystical meaning or for use in casting a spell.
4. [Finnish runo, of Germanic origin; akin to Old Norse rūn] a: a Finnish or Old Norse poem b: poem , song
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Twilight actually knew the answer from this one. Her Grandfather had mentioned it when he taught her History of Magic. She raised her hand.

"It is thought to derive from the word 'Runa' which is Nordic in ethnology. Though some say it is older than that and is Indo-Germanic in origin. The root means secret and whisper in both languages."
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Where does the word rue come from, and what does it mean?

Once again, Clifford slowly raised his arm, willing to give it a try. "Uhm - the word rune comes from the Old Norse word Runa, I think Professor." He started hesitantly, brow furrowed. "It means secret. Or mystery."
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Mackenzie finally knew an answer, or at least she thought she did. "Does it come from an old Norse word?" she asked as she raised her hand. She hoped she was right. "Perhaps one that means mystery or secret?" She finally thought of the actual word. "The word it's derived from is Runa right?"
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Ruby raised her hand and said " is it Most of the early runes from the Scandinavian countries are assumed to be in the Proto-Norse, the common ancestor language of the modern North Germanic languages. No distinction is made in surviving runic inscriptions between long and short vowels"
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Anna perked up a bit and smiled when she was awarded two points for her answer. Wow. Maybe she hadn't hit rock bottom in Ancient Runes after all. Anna listened to the professor discuss the Scythians and then raised her hand when another question was asked. "The word Rune comes form the word Runa, which means 'secret' or 'mystery,'" she said.
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Melanie scribbled down notes frantically trying to finish before they went on to the next matter. The professor went on to another question and Melanie paused on her notes and looked up. She decided she may as well guess on it. "I think, professer, that it originated from the Germanic. -
Run was where the word originated. It's old English. Oh, and the word runa ... which means whispering. Rune has about the same definition." Melanie answered, seriously hoping this was not complete non- sense she had dreamed up. the second part at least everyone else had said, but the first was sort of something she thought she knew... She could hardly believe the words had exited her mouth, but she did like to read and there were tons of old books that had weird words in them.
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Miranda actually knew this one! She raised her hand. "It came from the word 'runa', meaning secret, or mystery." she paused. "And it's origin...the word came from...um...is it Nordic??"
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Keefer rummaged through his textbook and picked a spot at random. Hmm.. they definitely weren't to the point of translating yet... Trying a more conventional method, he turned to a page the rest of the students had opened to. He gazed about the page, casting his eyes around for something about the origin of the word 'rune.'

Seeing what he was looking for, Keefer stuck both hands up into the air (why did everyone only raise one?). "Professor, I see here that 'rune' comes from a Nordic word 'runa'.. so my guess is Norway." He was pleasantly satisfied with his answer. Wait, hadn't she also asked what it meant? Before she had a chance to move onto another student, Keefer belted out, "Wait! And it means either secret or mystery!" he hurriedly told the professor.

Some would be embarrassed by such a mistake, but not Keefer. He was carelessly impervious to any form of whispering, staring, or criticism.
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The word, Rune, has its origins in the Old Norse & Old English word rūn mystery, runic character, writing; akin to Old High German rūna secret discussion, Old Irish rún mystery.

I found four definitions for the word rune:

1. any of the characters of certain ancient alphabets, as of a script used for writing the Germanic languages, esp. of Scandinavia and Britain, from c200 to c1200, or a script used for inscriptions in a Turkic language of the 6th to 8th centuries from the area near the Orkhon River in Mongolia.
2. something written or inscribed in such characters.
3. an aphorism, poem, or saying with mystical meaning or for use in casting a spell.
4. [Finnish runo, of Germanic origin; akin to Old Norse rūn] a: a Finnish or Old Norse poem b: poem , song
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Twilight actually knew the answer from this one. Her Grandfather had mentioned it when he taught her History of Magic. She raised her hand.

"It is thought to derive from the word 'Runa' which is Nordic in ethnology. Though some say it is older than that and is Indo-Germanic in origin. The root means secret and whisper in both languages."
"Very good children! Two points each." She said clapping her hands. She repeated and smiled. "Alright even though Runic script originated in 3000 bc, does anyone know when the earliest Futhark enscription dates back to, when it was found and what it's name is?"
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Raising her hand Nancy replied, "I think that was back in 150AD and the name futhark derived from their first six letters of the alphabet which are F, U, Þ, A, R, and K." Then chewing on her lip for a moment she added hesitantly, "Right?"
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OH YAY! Clifford beamed happily at the Professor before throwing his arm in the air again. The earliest Futhark enscription? Hmmm. "Was it ca. 400, Ma'am?" He tried, brain aching. "The Older Futhark. Found on the Kylver Stone in Gotland?"
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Mackenzie thought for a minute. "Was it in 150 A.D.?" She asked raising her hand. She thought about the answer to the other quesion. "And was the name from the first letters of the alphabet?" Mackenzie was more sure about the first answer than the second one.
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"Umm I think it dates back to aroudn 150 A.D." she said. "And is it called futhark? Thats the Scandinavian variants.... the Anglo-Saxon variant was futhorc..they were both derived form teh first six letters, but its different because something due to sound changes I think."
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After giving it some thought as she flipped the pages of the textbook, Evangeline slowly raised her hand. Goodness, this was hard. "That'd be the Older Futhark, right, Ma'am? Discovered in ca. 400, in the Kylver Stone in Gotland." She thought so, but bleh - what did she know?
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"The earliest Furthark enscriptions date back to ca. 160 AD and were found on the comb from Vimose ... I thiiiink." Miles realized he was using long words, not something that he did, and tried to focus back to the lesson.
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Copernicus raised his hand. "Professor, I believe the earliest known listing of the Futhark Runes was on Kylver Stone in Gotland, Sweden, and dates back to 400 CE. The inscription was on the bottom of a flat rock used as a grave stone, and thus it was not discovered until 1903."
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Camira had been taking notes nonstop ever since class started. Goodness she was bad at runes. Maybe the professor offered tutoring. Oooh, but finally a question she knew the answer to. She raised her hand. "The earliest runic inscriptions date from around 150 AD. That would be the Elder Futhark. It was originally used by Germanic tribes, though it has striking similarities to Latin so it's origin is questionable. I do know, however, that the Scandinavians simplified it into the Younger Futhark in the late 8th century."
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"Umm I think it dates back to aroudn 150 A.D." she said. "And is it called futhark? Thats the Scandinavian variants.... the Anglo-Saxon variant was futhorc..they were both derived form teh first six letters, but its different because something due to sound changes I think."
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Camira had been taking notes nonstop ever since class started. Goodness she was bad at runes. Maybe the professor offered tutoring. Oooh, but finally a question she knew the answer to. She raised her hand. "The earliest runic inscriptions date from around 150 AD. That would be the Elder Futhark. It was originally used by Germanic tribes, though it has striking similarities to Latin so it's origin is questionable. I do know, however, that the Scandinavians simplified it into the Younger Futhark in the late 8th century."

"Nope..." She said and turned to the others.

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OH YAY! Clifford beamed happily at the Professor before throwing his arm in the air again. The earliest Futhark enscription? Hmmm. "Was it ca. 400, Ma'am?" He tried, brain aching. "The Older Futhark. Found on the Kylver Stone in Gotland?"
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After giving it some thought as she flipped the pages of the textbook, Evangeline slowly raised her hand. Goodness, this was hard. "That'd be the Older Futhark, right, Ma'am? Discovered in ca. 400, in the Kylver Stone in Gotland." She thought so, but bleh - what did she know?
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Copernicus raised his hand. "Professor, I believe the earliest known listing of the Futhark Runes was on Kylver Stone in Gotland, Sweden, and dates back to 400 CE. The inscription was on the bottom of a flat rock used as a grave stone, and thus it was not discovered until 1903."
"Correct! Two points," She smiled at the two prefects and the lotion boy.

""The Kylver Stone is a Swedish stone which dates from about 400 AD. It was found on a farm at Kylver, Stånga, Gotland in 1903." She said waving her wand.



"As Mr. Kettleburn so expertly said, the stone was a flat rock used to seal a grave and the inscription was written on the bottom, and could not be read or it may have been discovered earlier. OOooooo!" She said thinking up a good question. "Can anyone tell me what the difference is between a rune and a runestone?"
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Mackenzie was a little let down when her answer was wrong. She was sure she knew the answer to the next question. She raised her hand and said, "A runestone is what the actual runes are written on and the runes are the symbols." She hoped she was right this time.
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