Con_Stripes | 03-08-2009 08:58 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Crayola
(Post 7935895)
"I thiiiiink that my favourite character of the tale miiiiight be Altheda." The sixth year old girl replied after raising her hand. It was a tough question, but still. "Yeah, I think so. She's not a quitter, no matter how hard things look. During the second challenge, they weren't moving an inch and she still kept on struggling to overcome it." Not quitting was a very important thing. Evangeline would have done homework ages ago if she was a quitter. Oh yes. "And, of course, she learns that imagination can often be the solution for our problems, just like talent .. and by making his character learn that, Beedle must try and teach us that too, right?" | "Right." Truebridge agreed. Quote:
Originally Posted by liammoiser
(Post 7935931)
John raised his hand. "I think that Altheda would have to be my favorate charecter." He smiled. "Because no matter how hard things where she never gave in, she always tried her hardest to make things work." He stopped then continued. "she also used her imagination to solve some of her problems." | "Thank you for your answer." Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Eye Touz
(Post 7935968)
Plymouth leaned forward and well, he rubbed his nose in Cela's hair. Sure, oddness, but it was a nuzzle. "Take my book, CellBell. I don't need it." Clearly, he was a history buff.
Up his hand went again, "You only need to marry one. But, it took all the lovely ladies to make it work. The dude - the knight - by far my favorite. He was a smart cookie, had it all figured out. Girls make the best friends. The Beedle, the knight, and me, we're all saying the same thing: Surround yourself with pretty, successful, funny, smart girls and you'll be lucky. And happy. And don't include step-brothers in that mix. I notice no step-brothers in the happy-ending mix. " | "The best friends and the worst enemies." Truebridge agreed. Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoerawrr
(Post 7936027)
Jolting back to reality again, Jake stared curiously at Professor Truebridge. I... insight? And here I am... thinking it sounds like cra- erm... crazy talk. He raised his hand, slowly, thinking about the characters in the book and the one that stood out to him. "I like the knight, Professor," Jake explained. "Because at first he kind of steps down, all hopeless, but then after a bit of... persuading he goes with the witches. And basically, he is really selfless, because he goes to help the others, and then it turns out he gets to go in the fountain. I think, subconsciously, that that is the reason he is my favourite... that and the witches scare me a little. The guy is the only muggle, and he is totally brave... I think he might have been put in to show the whole 'don't have to be magic to be important' kind of thing." After more thinking, Jake continued. "We learnt from him, after we find out the fountain isn't magic, that his own deeds made him 'lucky' again. Oh, and he learnt... well, I'm not sure. Perseverence? Chivalry? I mean that's what they called him, chivalrous."
After remembering a certain incident to do with chivalry or lackthereof, Jake lowered his arm and gazed down at his notes, wishing they would write themselves. Nevertheless, he submitted to picking up his quill and getting on with it. | "Very good, thank you." Ethan nodded, listening carefully to Jake's answer. Quote:
Originally Posted by Cassirin
(Post 7936090)
"I have the Granger translation in my trunk, Cela," he leaned across the aisle and ignored his step-brother for the moment. "I'll get it to you after class." With that, he turned and gave Plymouth a hard look.
"I suggest you not manhandle Miss Toussaint in class, Plymouth, or Ravenclaw won't thank you one bit." With that, he headed for the board, hoping that Tobi would smack Plymouth upside the head as he walked past. Imagine the nerve of rubbing on Cela during CLASS and then making snide comments in front of everyone. It was RUDE. | Truebridge looked between Copernicus and Plymouth in interest, wondering what manhandling had occurred in his classroom. Hmmm. "Ah... yes.... no... manhandling, please." It wasn't always a pleasant experience and often resulted in strange invitations to go for pie or risk being eaten. Quote:
Originally Posted by Cassirin
(Post 7936090)
Copernicus paused at the board with chalk in hand. Tobi was older and definitely better at History of Magic, so it made sense to leave synthesis type stuff to the other boy. He himself would bullet point the story. The Fountain of Fair Fortune
* Premise: Once a year, one person is allowed to enter the garden and make their way to the Fountain. If they bathe in the water, the unfortunate person is promised fair fortune for life.
* Characters: Asha (the sick witch), Altheda (the broke witch), Amata (the heartbroken witch), and Sir Luckless (the hapless Muggle knight)
Plot:
* The three witches decide to join forces to get to the Fountain.
* When the garden opens, a creeper vine grabs Asha, who drags along Altheda and Amata into the garden. Amata accidentally brings Sir Luckless with her.
* They face three challenges, and each witch contributes to overcoming one of the challenges.
* Asha defeats a giant blind white worm that demands the proof of their pain with her tears.
* Altheda assists her team in making it up an endlessly long hill by cheering them on and encouraging them to the point of sweating, which is accepted as the fruit of her labor.
* Amata overcomes a stream that is impossible to cross by dropping the memories of her lost love into the water, which are accepted as treasures of her past.
* They reach the fountain and must decide who will bathe.
Conclusion:
* Asha is exhausted to the point of near death, and she is only saved when Altheda quickly brews a potion. Once healed, she realizes she no longer needs the fountain.
* Altheda realizes she can sell this potion, and she no longer needs the fountain.
* Amata finds that when she dropped her good memories into the water, she could see how awful and beastly her former love truly was and didn't miss him anymore. She no longer needed the fountain.
* They let Sir Luckless bathe in the fountain.
* He offers his love to Amata, loving her for being so kind to him and letting him join this quest.
* They all leave happily, never realizing the Fountain has no real power. | "Thank you, Copernicus. Everyone please copy this down." Quote:
Originally Posted by aussiegirl
(Post 7936121)
Kayla raised her hand, "My favourite in the story would have to be Sir Luckless, the knight. He was prepared to help the three witches reach the fountain even though he knew that he stood no chance at actually getting into the fountain himself. And it turned out that he wasn't so luckless at all, he did after all get the girl in the end." | "Luck is relative to confidence I think." Ethan commented. Quote:
Originally Posted by druidflower
(Post 7936132)
Tobi walked to the front of the class his ears a little pink. Good thing I didn’t let Mum cut my hair, he thought. When Copernicus joined him there, he nodded to him. There seemed to be an immediate unspoken agreement the Copernicus would take the story outline, and that suited Tobi just fine. He rather liked to pick apart things like stories and songs. When he was seven years old, he asked his Great-Grandmother to explain a song from her youth, something called Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds, she had said he was too young to understand and to go jump in the creak. Since Tobi hadn’t yet learned how to swim, that was maybe not the best turn of phrase she could have used.
Tobi focused on the details of the story and began to write: Messages of the Story- Many heads are better than one (unless you’re a Runespoor.)
- The best way to over come some obstacles is not necessarily to try to impale them on a sword, or bludgeoning it with rocks; you may wish to first try logic, sincerity, or other forms of negotiation.
- Labour is not only measured in the wage one is paid.
- Not all treasure is silver and gold
matey, our fond memories are precious too. - One doesn’t need magic to cure everything that ails you
- Even fond memories can be a burden
- Chivalry is its own reward.
- Good fortune is almost entirely a state of mind
- Worthiness and has little to do with blood status, and much more to do with the actions and attitude of the party in question
- Positive thinking, perseverance, hard work, can be equal to or superior to any magic wizardkind has yet to devise.
As Tobi finished writing he heard ‘Mouth-Off’ Morgan babbling his itty bitty brains out again. It took all his self restraint not to turn around and whip his piece of chalk at the foolish child. Had he really thought Copernicus was the problem once?
At least he could take his lumps.
Tobi turned slowly to face the class, envisioning calm, peaceful streams, wide open valleys, and Plymouth Morgan bound and gagged, hanging upside down from the Great Hall ceiling.
He smiled serenely. | "Good. Thank you for doing that. Everyone needs to copy these notes down." Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrs. Weasley
(Post 7936278)
Abby raises her hand. "I guess I'm weird, but I like all four characters. Each wanted to be the one who bathed in the 'Fountain of Good Fortune' believing their problems would be solved. You would have thought each would have fought the other when they were granted access to the garden, so that, that individual would have the best chance of making it to the fountain. Instead they helped each other along the way and in the process solved their own problems."
"I learned from them that no problem is too big that you can't solve it on your own, and that sometimes it isn't the destination but the journey that is inportant. Asha had a disease no healer could cure. She almost made it to the fountain when her illness overtook her. Asha could have begged the others to let her bathe in the fountain, but she didn't. Asha told the others to leave her where she was. I think she realized the fountain could not cure her after all. In her sacrifice, she found salvation. Altheda wouldn't let her new friend die without trying to help her. She gathered the herbs that grow near the fountain and mixed them with Sir Luckless's water. The mixture not only saved Asha's life; it also saved Altheda as well. She was penniless, and wandless. Atheda had lost hope. When she saw what the herbs could do, she found a means to make a living. She no longer needed the fountain's help. Altheda found a way to help herself. Amata was haunted by memories of the man she loved who had left her. She could not let go of the memories good and bad of him. Amata needed to let go and move on with her life. She sacrificed these memories so they could cross the brook and make it to the fountain. In doing so Amata achieved her goal and found love with Sir Luckless. Sir Luckless had had a run of bad luck. He thought he was jinxed. Ironically, Sir Luckless ended up being the one who bathed in the Fountain of Fair Fortune. As he soaked in the water, Sir Luckless realized how lucky he was to be where he was. Out of hundreds of people, he, the muggle, had managed to win the coveted prize. His luck had certainly changed. Sir Luckless left the fountain a changed man. He had the courage and confidence to ask Amata for her hand and heart. Amata also found a man worthy of her love. I like all of them because the four character are intechangable. Each had a need they hoped the fountain would fix. Each knew only one of them could bathe in the fountain, and instead of fighting and sabotaging the other three, each of them helped the other get to the fountain, and gave up their chance so the other could bathe in it. I don't know of a lot of people that would be that selfless. In the end each had their problem solved without magic."
I learned that the old saying 'It is better to give than receive is true.' Each gave up their chance to bathe in the fountain, and still found a solution to their problems. I also learned that magic can not solve our problems, and we should not believe magic can. Each of the characters had the means inside themselves to solve their problems, they just needed the journey to the fountain to enable them to find it."
"I would like to think they learned that by helping others we help ourselves, or to quote a couple of old sayings: 'it's better to give than to receive' and 'God helps those who help themselves.' The characters thought the fountain would solve all their woes and guarantee them a life of good fortune. They solved their problems on their own. The means to solve their problems lied withn themselves. They didn't need magic to make everything alright. I'd also like to think they learned that we tend to put too much stock in magic. It is inportant to learn and remember that every witch and wizard can learn to survive and flourish without magic. It's a great tool, but it take us to make it work."
I think Beedle the Barb was telling his readers no to put too much stock in magic. It cannot make you wealthy. Magic cannot create the love of your life, nor give you confidence when you have lost it. It cannot give immortality, bring wizards back from the dead, nor cure all that ails us. Beedle was probably also trying to show young wizards that they should not become too wrapped up in or dependant on magic. It cannot give us everything we want nor can it solve all of our problems. We must take responsibility for our lives and find the answers to life's problems within ourselves." | Wow. That was thorough. "Thank you, Abby." Ethan nodded. Quote:
Originally Posted by Jojogali
(Post 7936284)
Which character do you like best? Why? What can we learn from them? What did they learn? What do you think Beedle was trying to tell us by including them?, the professor asked. Joanne sat quietly in her sit for a moment, deliberating on that question. She raised her hand to speak " Well the character I like best is the Knight. I like the Knight because he's there mostly for the adventure, to get to the Fountain and pass all the mythical beings that guard it, or at least he hopes he gets there because the truth is he knows he stands no chance getting there alone. He has no special talent or what-so-ever. But he has the courage, he makes team with the three witches and with them pursuits the goods of the fountain. I think that with him, he learn that magic isn't everything. Even though we wizards have our powers, there are other ways to get what we want, and he, the Knight is one of the main reasons for the witches to resolve their problems without needing the fountain's power. So by adding the Knight Beedle is showing the other side of the story too, the non-magical side and I think he adds it too to make the ending perfect, so Amata gets her happly-ever-after." | "Good thinking." Truebridge nodded. Quote:
Originally Posted by Herminny
(Post 7936353)
I like Atheda cause even as a wandless witch she discovers over the journey she is not worthless like she thought she was, there was so much she could contribute to others including the potion she made for Atheda which cured her from her malady, she could truly help others and make a living even without her wand, she discovered loosing one thing is not nessesarily the ball end all, people have many talents and even without that one thing you can always find you're worth in other ways if you are trying. | "Uh..." Ethan blinked his mind had wandered a little as he attempted to follow. "The potion she made for Asha, you mean." Quote:
Originally Posted by druidflower
(Post 7936427)
Tobi poked his hand a little ways into the air and spoke up, "Professor, if I may answer this as well, I personally prefer Altheda to the others, simply because she learned to rely on herself without magic. She learned to respect herself as a person first and as a witch secondary. It might be a worthwhile exercise for some of us who have never lived without magic to try and go twenty for hours without using it, and see what we're made of. Now a days, if you lose your wand or destroy it, you can buy another or have another made for you. Or, if you are truly cunning, win won from another without magic. Back when the story was written, this might not have been known about wands, or it may have been omitted to make the story flow better. At any rate, we see from Altheda that being without a wand or magic does not make us powerless. Altheda was not weak though she was wandless, she was perhaps the most determined and quickest to encourage the others, that counts for a lot in a person's character." | "You may, and thank you." Quote:
Originally Posted by Anna Banana
(Post 7936431)
Hmmm...Anna's favorite character definitely wasn't the knight. It'd have to be one of the three witches, particularly one who ended up doing something brave, heroic, and exceptionally interesting. That pretty much narrowed it down to...oh, great...all three. Asha's story was interesting, and Anna was thrilled to realize she'd been cured in the end, but Anna didn't think she'd consider Asha her favorite. Altheda, however, was intelligent and skilled in the art of potion-making. The witch reminded Anna a bit of herself, actually. Then there was Amata, who was able to overcome her heartache and gain true love in the end. That particular part was equally interesting, but then again, Anna couldn't really relate to her either.
Finally, Anna raised her hand. "I liked Altheda the best, because parts of her remind me of myself. I've always been one to use my skills and what I know to try and solve situations around me. Not only that, the career field I've chosen to go into deals with the art of potion-making, which is how Altheda cured Asha's illness," Anna explained. "However, Asha taught us to never give up and to always work hard to reach our goals. Although exhausted by the time she reached the fountain, Asha never gave up on her quest to cure her illness. Altheda taught us to use what we know and what we possess inside of us to bring us further along in the world. She teaches us that sometimes the answer to our biggest problem lies deep within our own selves. She did this, of course, by realizing her own true inner strength when curing Asha. Amata teaches us that when one door is closes, another door opens for us. She also teaches us that often times we look so long and so regretfully upon closed doors that we don't end up seeing the wonderful opportunities that lie ahead."
"As far as what Beedle Bard was trying to teach us, I think the common theme is to never give up. I think we're meant to learn that no matter what curveballs may be thrown to us, we must keeping working hard, as Asha did, build upon our inner strength, as Altheda did, and learn to let go of the past, as Amata did," Anna finished. | "Very good, Anna." Truebridge nodded. Quote:
Originally Posted by Celandine
(Post 7936817)
"Oh!" Cela felt her hair move and a little shiver went up her neck as if one of the ghosts had brushed past her. But it was just Plymouth. And he offered his book. Cela turned around to look at him and shot him a dazzling smile before her attention was grabbed by Copernicus.
"Thanks, Cope." Cela answered him a bit uncertainly as he offered to share his book. Waiiiiit. Manhandle? Miss Toussaint? Cela looked between Plymouth and Copernicus uncertainly for a moment before following Copernicus' progress as he moved to join Tobi at the board. Cela sighed in confusion and copied down the notes.
Might as well attempt to answer the questions, Cela raised her gloved hand, a flash of her bracelet visible as she did so, "Just from what people are saying I think I like the knight. He sounds quite dreamy. And heroic and awesome and fun and even if he isn't able to do magic, he has other strengths. Sometimes strength of personality is more important than strength of intellect." | "Good point. Yes." Ethan agreed, stroking the cat in his lap. Quote:
Originally Posted by BeccaBear
(Post 7937092)
Allie raised her hand. "I think my favorite character would have to be the giant white worm, Professor." she said. | "Poor, misunderstood worm." Ethan nodded, agreeing. "The worm is pretty interesting." Quote:
Originally Posted by Ameh
(Post 7937175)
Raiden raised his hand. "I rather liked Altheda from this story, sir. When they couldn't move up the hill, she was the one that pushed on harder than the rest of them. She was determined to get there, whether walking actually moved her forward or not. She put so much effort into it, and in the end she was the one who passed that task, because she worked for it." He thought for a second. "And I think that was the point Beedle was trying to get across. If you want something, no matter how much you don't think pressing on is going to help, you should keep trying." | "Good." Zan nodded in encouragement. Quote:
Originally Posted by aussiegirl
(Post 7937553)
Kayla raised her hand again because for some reason she had missed the last part of the questions. "So as I said before my favourite person in the story was Sir Luckless. What I learnt from the knight was that perseverence certainly does pay off in the end, even though the fountain wasn't actually magical at all he got everything he wanted in the end. I guess Sir Luckless, learnt that he could be courageous, chivalrous, smart and all those personalities that make a true knight. I think Beedle was trying to put across the message that magic is not the answer to everything and that being kind and respectful to each other and working together will get you towards your ultimate goal in the end." | "It's a good moral. It's amazing that the story survived at all. Beedle the Bard could be said to be ahead of his time in regard to the messages he presented about equality."
Ethan cleared his throat, "Moving on to the next tale. The Warlock's Hairy Heart." He paused, "What is a 'hairy heart'?" |