| Con_Stripes | 03-09-2009 04:22 AM |
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Originally Posted by Cassirin
(Post 7941983)
Copernicus raised his hand. "One lesson I take from this story is that death is inevitable. You can try all sorts of tricks and traps, but in the end, death is going to be the victor. I think that was rather neatly symbolized by Death being portrayed as wily and clever. The brothers thought they were outsmarting him, but Death merely handed them the means to their own demise."
| That's right, Copernicus." Quote:
Originally Posted by Waddles
(Post 7941987)
Juniper's hand flew into the air. "Well, the story teaches us that bragging is bad. The brother with the wand bragged about it far too much, and he was killed," she said bluntly. She paused for a moment, trying to remember what exactly symbolism was and what an example from The Tale of the Three Brothers might be. "Oh, and an example of symbolism might be. . . the Invisibility Cloak. It hid Ignotus from everybody, but Ignotus could still see out from underneath the Cloak. It symbolises Ignotus's wisdom, for he could see knowledge where others could not."
| "Thank you. Juniper." Truebridge shifted slightly where he leaned on the desk, kitty in his arms. Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrs. Weasley
(Post 7941995)
Abby raises her hand. "I think the invisibility cloak sympolizes the long life all of us hope we will live. The third brother hid from death until he had reached the age that he was no longer afraid to die. He knew it was his time to pass on. I think one of the lessons I learned from the story is to not fear death or try to avoid it. It is better that we embrass him, and accept that sooner or later we are all going to die."
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Originally Posted by Ameh
(Post 7941997)
Raiden sunk back down into his seat, brow furrowed as he thought a bit. More lessons in this story... Well, there were the obvious ones, the ones already put forth by the class...he thought for a moment before raising his hand.
"I wonder if the stone that was given to the second brother would possibly stand for... a gravestone? Because he had to turn it over, and a tombstone is a symbol that people often associate with death... so by turning it over, he was overturning death..." He tapped his bottom lip thoughtfully. Overturning death... why had he had to turn it three times though? He couldn't figure everything out! "The lesson is... that you really can't bring people back from the dead, as much as you might want to. The story's meant to show you that not even Death can bring back the ones you've lost... no matter how much you wish for it."
| "Good, Abby and Raiden. I see you are both really thinking. Quote:
Originally Posted by HG_forever
(Post 7942031)
Once again,Whit raised her hand,happy to be able to answer. "Well....I'd have to say the same thing the other students have said. No matter how much you try,and while it's not wise at all to try and do this,beating death is impossible. As the story shows us,there are ways you can avoid death for quite a while but in the end,you'll have seen so much that living is just too much and you'll go when you feel you are ready." At this she paused and thought a bit more. That was pretty much the theme of the story,death is inevitable. Seeing as that was all she could think of for the time being,she put her hand down and listened to the other students.
| Truebridge nodded at the slytherin girl, pleased with her answer. Quote:
Originally Posted by Anna Banana
(Post 7942038)
"Of course, sir," Anna said, standing up and catching the chalk. As she headed to the board, she passed by the professor, and smiled sweetly. Thank Merlin he seemed to have forgiven her for her little stunt she pulled earlier in the year. Upon reaching the board, Anna began her summarization.
When she was done, Anna passed back by Professor Truebridge, grabbed his hand, dumped the chalk into it, smiled sweetly again, and then headed to her seat. When she was seated, she raised her hand and said, "The tale warns us of the risks we take each and every time we seek opportunities to benefit ourselves and not try and balance our lives accordingly. The first two brothers wished only for items that would help them succeed in the world, and they ended up meeting a horrible end. The last brother, the one who seemed to have his senses about him, simply chose to walk away from what he saw as a dangerous situation. In my opinion, he was the only one Death ended up rewarding. Ignotus was able to live his life to its fullest, and he deserved such due to his unselfish nature," she said. "I also think, once again, this story teaches us to not try and step in the way of how life should normally exist. As magical people, we can only conjur, transfigure, and cast spells upon so much, but when we twist fate and cheat death, we are changing a part of life that was never meant to be changed."
| Ethan stared at the chalk in his hand for a moment before putting it aside and continuing with scratching the kitty. Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoerawrr
(Post 7942047)
Jake stretched his hand up. "I suppose, one lesson... don't try and cross the evil scary looking, death bound river, because... you're just... death bound..." Made sense to him. "And the symbolism is... erm..." He shoots... he misses! Groooooan... THINK before rasing your hand... "One example miiiiiiight be... the invisibility cloak... always hiding. Even though you can't hide forever..." If only he'd know that earlier. "I'm not sure if-" Oh just shut uuuuup, now!
| "Gooooooood." Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrs. Weasley
(Post 7942059)
Abby raises her hand. "I think the resurection stone symbolizes the Sorcerer's stone more than a tombstone. The second brother wanted to bring back the woman she loved. He hoped the stone would resurrect her the same way Voldemort wanted to use the Sorcerer's Stone to make himself a new body."
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Originally Posted by Ameh
(Post 7942091)
Frowning a little, Raiden put his hand up again. "Uhm... I don't think it's meant to symbolize the Philosopher's Stone, actually," he said softly. "When Voldemort wanted to use it to make himself a new body, he already had a fragment of his soul. The stone in the story is meant to bring back fully dead people who don't have fragments of their soul scattered around the world. And I don't think that back then, anyone would have thought to use the Philosopher's Stone like that, least not the brother; he was greedy and arrogant, but I think he was far from a Dark Wizard. Plus, I don't know if much was really known about the Philosopher's Stone back then, either." He looked at Mr. Professor Truebridge. "I don't know much about the history of that particular magic item..."
| "A little difference of opinion but I actually believe you both have good points." Ethan told them. Ahhh he loved a healthy debate. Quote:
Originally Posted by druidflower
(Post 7942095)
Tobi raised his hand and shared an opinion that had been brewing in the back of his mind since he'd heard the story from his Great-Grandmother at least ten years ago, "I think the river was a symbol for death in itself. In a lot of cultures they use a river in their legends about death. Perhaps most famously the river Styx, in Greek Mythology. So to say the brothers went traveling and came to a river which they cunningly crossed, is maybe a more poetic way to say they went traveling and came to a time where they should have died, but saved their skins with Magic. I mean, a strong swimmer or a man who knows how to build a boat could cross the river, people swim the Channel and Muggles use ships for transport or mere pleasure all the time, but the 'Bridge over the River' was a symbol of avoiding their natural deaths with magic."
| Quote:
Originally Posted by HG_forever
(Post 7942100)
Then Whit realized she hadn't shown an example either. "Oh and as for the symbol,I'd have to go with the invisibility cloak. It has several symbols but one of the main ones would be to symbolize just how much a person wants to stay alive,even though they know they can't." She started,hoping she made some sense. "And this goes back to the theme of the story. As I said before it's impossible to beat death but the invisibility was something that allowed the brother to avoid it. Just how many of us feel. A big portion of the world would love not to die but we all know there's a time for all of us so...we do as much as we can to stay healthy and live a longer life." There. That made some sense right?
| "Thank you, good answers, and insight." Ethan nodded at Tobi and Whitney. Quote:
Originally Posted by Anna Banana
(Post 7942107)
"Ouch," Anna said, shooting Cope an apologetic look. She then turned back to Plymouth and listened as his continued his little rant, speaking more so about his own brother rather than the brothers in the tale. "At least none of them had to ask their mother's for permission," she said, giggling at her little inside joke with Plymouth. She smirked and winked at "Plymmy" before getting back to the question at hand. Plymouth would kill her later---that is, if Professor Truebridge didn't do so first.
"Oh, Professssssooooorrrr," Anna said, her hand in the air once again. "Due to momentary distractionsssss," she said, eyeing Plymouth once again, "I seemed to have forgotten to answer part of the question. Symbolism. The promiment use of symbolism in the story is the hooded figure which represents Death. Hooded figures are seen as sneaky and, for the most part, hidden---not unlike the manner in which death seems to creep up on people. The fact that hooded figures are usually depicted as wearing all black represents death, too, as black is the color of death."
| Hmm. Ethan wondered what Plymouth had to ask his mother about but he nodded at the rest of Anna's words. "Right." Quote:
Originally Posted by druidflower
(Post 7942168)
Tobi has also been rather engrossed in the fight that was attempting to happen between Plymouth and Copernicus, he was personally rooting for Copernicus, but that had a lot to do with what he understood of his intentions. All the same, he had missed part of the question too. The part that Anna had gotten in the first place. "I missed part of it too, the lesson I take away from it is, don't get greedy enjoy the time you have, and don't endeavour to extend it just because you're afraid of what comes next or -" he continued quickly, "just because you think it's possible to get it. Somethings are better left ungotten, and sometimes it's better to let them go while you still can. Not every gift is a blessing."
| "Right...." Ethan narrowed his eyes and looked around the classroom, trying to focus on the lesson for now. ooc: the rest is coming, I just needed to do this bit for points and junk. |
