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Slytherin Princess 02-12-2009 09:09 PM

Ruby raised her hand and said "we get history from word of mouth and from records that have been kept"

Waddles 02-12-2009 09:09 PM

Hand up, yet again. Maybe Juniper should just keep her hand up through the entire class. It would certainly save her joints the stress of constantly bending back and forth. "History comes from sources from past times, whether those past times were a year ago or a century ago," Juniper said. "Sources that give us history can either be actions recorded later on by historians, or primary sources like someone's diary about an event or such. Biographies and stuff are sources, too. So basically we get history from anyone or anything that seems important enough, in retrospect, to study." Something like that. Juniper was not entirely sure that her answer made sense, but... it was worth trying to explain.

Lislchen 02-12-2009 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by NicoT (Post 7840198)
Hmm. Zan couldn't quite hear the music over the deafening din of students thinking. He flicked his wand and turned it up slightly. "Yes that is a good quote. Perhaps it applies quite nicely to contemporary events here at Hogwarts?"

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Truebridge cleared his throat, "So; where do we get history from anyway?"

No way! Nancy stared in sheer disbelief at the professor as he actually flicked his wand to not turn the music down or off like she'd hoped but turned the volume up till it was almost deafening. As soon as she'd found her voice again the third year muttered an almost unaudible, "Yes, exactly" before adding a little louder, "Professor? Would you mind turning that...uhm...music down a tiny little bit?" Hopefully he wasn't going to be annoyed or anything but this noise was just plainly irritating. Raising her hand again at the professor's next question Nancy more guessed than knew the answer. "Uhm...textbooks? Well, and of course first of all from the people who actually wrote the textbooks in the first place?"

Con_Stripes 02-12-2009 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Celandine (Post 7840364)
Cela raised her hand, "The... past?"

"True." Ethan agreed, "But I'm referring to the sources." He winked at her.

kami12 02-12-2009 09:12 PM

"hmmm... Well I think History just write itself. We don't get it... It comes to us!" Ray answered. "It started with the start of everything some billions years in the past and ever since each time a phenomena, event, war, crisis, discovery is made, it gets registered and we get it from there... I read somewhere that Herodotus of Halicarnassus was the first person to start writting History and regarded history as being the product of the choices and actions of human beings, and looked at cause and effect, rather than as the result of divine intervention... In his historical method, Thucydides emphasized chronology, a neutral point of view, and that the human world was the result of the actions of human beings" Ray explained.

TeafortheSoul 02-12-2009 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NicoT (Post 7840375)
"True." Ethan agreed, "But I'm referring to the sources." He winked at her.

"Oh." Cela thought about the question for a bit before answering with her hand up, "Word of mouth? And like Paris said with some cultures having someone in charge of keeping the history... so passed generation to generation? And... eye-witness accounts... and official documents and oooh! Letters! Or shopping lists or Newspapers!" Cela's eyes lit up as she thought about it, "Is that what you mean?"

Mrs. Weasley 02-12-2009 09:12 PM

"We can get history from many sources. We generally get our history from books, but we can also get it from people, newspapers, the wizard wireless. Today's events are tomorrow's history. People generally relate their personal history, but depending on their age, they can tell us about things that happened during their lifetime. Their past eperiences are a form of history."

PadfootAndTheWolf 02-12-2009 09:15 PM

Chris added to his answer. "Don't we also get alot of history form word-of-mouth, storytelling?" he said raising his hand

Torchwood 02-12-2009 09:17 PM

Qaz raised her hand and said, 'For the longest time, only the rich and the clergy could read and write, so I suppose that they wrote most of it.'

Liisa 02-12-2009 09:18 PM

Ili's ears perked up as soon as she heard Truebridge point her out. Oh she was done for, for sure. Less would definitely see her now. She crouched down, trying to hide and then she heard the young Gryffindor girl claim her. What?!? This was certainly a first. She had never had an "owner" before. She streeched her head forward towards Ethan's hand and let him scratch her. Then Less' voice drug her back to reality. TinkerbellPrincessBuns!? You've got to be bloody kidding me. Less was going to play this for all it was worth it seemed. She shot her a look and then casually jumped into Miss Johnson's lap and started to purr.

Hollister 02-12-2009 09:19 PM

"We get it from boooks." Miles thought aloud with his hand raised. ".. But mainly from people and events, because that's what makes history. People are made history because they are famous for doing something."

Crayola 02-12-2009 09:23 PM

After pondering on the question Truebridge had made, Evangeline finally raised her hand. "Well, people write stuff about what happens to them, right? Diaries and such. Historians' job is to document what happens, too. And we have photographs, too. They give us alot of info about an event and a time." She nodded her head before adding. "Oh, and letters can be important too! And speeches."

Hedwig18 02-12-2009 09:24 PM

Ana raised her hand "For example, Archeology and Paleontology, especially the first one and from documents" she said

BeccaBear 02-12-2009 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NicoT (Post 7840348)
Ethan blinked a few times and nodded slowly, "Alright Allie. I don't mind pets in class as long as they don't hurt anyone. Though... minky? Is a sweet one." Ethan extended his hand to the cat, "The third type? Why, the ones who learn from it of course."

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Originally Posted by SeerCassandraTrelawney (Post 7840360)
Alessia recognized the cat. For crying out loud Ili she thought to herself. She wasn't Miss Johnson's... "Miss Johnson, I don't believe she's your minky... though I may be wrong... She's... uhmmm mine..." Nevermind her alergy to felines... Really, a wolf with a cat. "Uhmmm" she stood and went, "KstKst..." she made the noise, but it sounded awful... "Uhmm, Come here little..." she couldn't call her Iliana! Hmmmm "Come here TinkerbellPrincessBuns..." She giggled internally thinking of what Ili would think of the name, but really... all Ili needed was to be given to a student!

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Originally Posted by LisaPotter1125 (Post 7840402)
Ili's ears perked up as soon as she heard Truebridge point her out. Oh she was done for, for sure. Less would definitely see her now. She crouched down, trying to hide. Then she heard the young Gryffindor girl claim her. What?!? This was certainly a first. She had never had an "owner" before. She streeched her head forward towards Ethan's hand and let him scratch her. Then Less' voice drug her back to reality. TinkerbellPrincessBuns!? You've got to be bloody kidding me. Less was going to play this for all it was worth it seemed. She shot her a look and then casually jumped into Miss Johnson's lap and started to purr.

Allie sighed with relief as Truebridge believed that...Minky, was her cat.
"Thank you, Professor. I will try not to let it happen again, but she seems to have a mind of her own."
Well that was over with, she would just take the cat from the Professor when she left...and then feed her, and well she would figure it out from there.
But then the Runes Professor said the Minky was her cat. TInkerbellPrincessBuns? Oh no, she didn't care if the cat was really hers, she was not going to let it go back to being called that on a 24/7 basis.
"No, Professor..I'm quite sure she is mine." she said, just before the cat had jumped into her lap.
"See? She recognizes me!" She smiled at the Professor, and started to scratch the cat behind her ear.

Con_Stripes 02-12-2009 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SeerCassandraTrelawney (Post 7840360)
Alessia recognized the cat. For crying out loud Ili she thought to herself. She wasn't Miss Johnson's... "Miss Johnson, I don't believe she's your minky... though I may be wrong... She's... uhmmm mine..." Nevermind her alergy to felines... Really, a wolf with a cat. "Uhmmm" she stood and went, "KstKst..." she made the noise, but it sounded awful... "Uhmm, Come here little..." she couldn't call her Iliana! Hmmmm "Come here TinkerbellPrincessBuns..." She giggled internally thinking of what Ili would think of the name, but really... all Ili needed was to be given to a student!

Ethan stared at Professor Lupa, shifted his gaze to Allie Johnson and finally to the cat. "Ah."

He continued to stare at the cat, hand outstretched. "Ah...Well... perhaps after class we can figure that out."

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Originally Posted by lookie its a cat!
Ili's ears perked up as soon as she heard Truebridge point her out. Oh she was done for, for sure. Less would definitely see her now. She crouched down, trying to hide and then she heard the young Gryffindor girl claim her. What?!? This was certainly a first. She had never had an "owner" before. She streeched her head forward towards Ethan's hand and let him scratch her. Then Less' voice drug her back to reality. TinkerbellPrincessBuns!? You've got to be bloody kidding me. Less was going to play this for all it was worth it seemed. She shot her a look and then casually jumped into Miss Johnson's lap and started to purr.

Ethan dropped his hand when the cat... Minky... TinkerbellPrincessBuns... went to Allie.

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Originally Posted by lookie you has a cat!
Allie sighed with relief as Truebridge believed that...Minky, was her cat.
"Thank you, Professor. I will try not to let it happen again, but she seems to have a mind of her own."
Well that was over with, she would just take the cat from the Professor when she left...and then feed her, and well she would figure it out from there.
But then the Runes Professor said the Minky was her cat. TInkerbellPrincessBuns? Oh no, she didn't care if the cat was really hers, she was not going to let it go back to being called that on a 24/7 basis.
"No, Professor..Im quite sure she is mine." she said, just before the cat had jumped into her lap.
"See? She reconizes me!" She smiled at the Professor, and startd to scratch the cat behind her ear.

"Right... ah..." Ethan slid his stunna shades back down over his eyes.

Weird.

Argh... Class!

Ethan looked around the room and his eyes fell on the young Slytherin who had requested for the music to be turned down, "Oh if you want it to be quieter, go ahead and turn it down yourself. Really. It's fine. However, if you turn it off I suspect Professor Lupa here, along with myself and Elizabeth... and Barry, apparently, Ethan gestured at the two Ravenclaws, "Will make up for it with a chorus of hums!" He hummed in illustration before turning his attention back to the class.

"Alright. Yes, word-of-mouth, official and personal documents, newspapers, stories, family stories passed through the generations, eye-witness accounts... you are all right. Also we can find things out by examining architecture and clothing, methods of building or making things, materials used, graves, cave-paintings... there are many sources aren't there? Sometimes conflicting as it were." Ethan looked between Professor Lupa and Allie Johnson speculatively before turning back to the task at hand.

"Can anyone tell me what Propaganda is?"

RachieRu 02-12-2009 09:30 PM

Vanessa rose her hand. "Sir Propaganda is the dissemination of information aimed at influencing the opinions or behaviors of large numbers of people"

ChloeeCloverr 02-12-2009 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by NicoT (Post 7840452)
Ethan stared at Professor Lupa, shifted his gaze to Allie Johnson and finally to the cat. "Ah."

He continued to stare at the cat, hand outstretched. "Ah...Well... perhaps after class we can figure that out."



Ethan dropped his hand when the cat... Minky... TinkerbellPrincessBuns... went to Allie.



"Right... ah..." Ethan slid his stunna shades back down over his eyes.

Weird.

Argh... Class!

Ethan looked around the room and his eyes fell on the young Slytherin who had requested for the music to be turned down, "Oh if you want it to be quieter, go ahead and turn it down yourself. Really. It's fine. However, if you turn it off I suspect Professor Lupa here, along with myself and Elizabeth... and Barry, apparently, Ethan gestured at the two Ravenclaws, "Will make up for it with a chorus of hums!" He hummed in illustration before turning his attention back to the class.

"Alright. Yes, word-of-mouth, official and personal documents, newspapers, stories, family stories passed through the generations, eye-witness accounts... you are all right. Also we can find things out by examining architecture and clothing, methods of building or making things, materials used, graves, cave-paintings... there are many sources aren't there? Sometimes conflicting as it were." Ethan looked between Professor Lupa and Allie Johnson speculatively before turning back to the task at hand.

"Can anyone tell me what Propaganda is?"

Shana raised her hand Professor,Is propaganda a poster or leaflet they used in the war's to avertise things such as growing your own vegetables and sewing your clothes.Shana wasn't quite sure if her answer was right but hoped it was.

PadfootAndTheWolf 02-12-2009 09:32 PM

Chris raised his hand "Sir, propaganda is the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person."

Crayola 02-12-2009 09:32 PM

"Propaganda is the dissemination of information aimed at influencing the opinions or behaviours of large numbers of people, Sir." Evangeline said, after raising her hand. Okay. That had been pretty much ... spilled from the textbook. Hmm. "Sorta like brainwashing."

kami12 02-12-2009 09:33 PM

"Propaganda is more related to politics, were opponents try to dissemay informations aimed at influencing the opinions or behaviors of large numbers of people, using to destroy someone's image!" Ray answered.

SilverTiger 02-12-2009 09:34 PM

Elizabeth raised her hand, trying to keep from reacting too much at the professor's comment about the music and humming. No way she was going to end up humming in the middle of class. Not intentionally, at least. "Propaganda is information put out in the public with the intent of influencing people's opinions and thoughts."

hpluvr037 02-12-2009 09:34 PM

Keefer again raised both his arms into the air before responding in a singsong voice, "Propaganda is usually in the form of media such as posters or videos, but it can also be word of mouth. It's basically the manipulation of information to get people to think or act how you want them to."

hufflepuff_keeper_11 02-12-2009 09:34 PM

Set raised his hand, "Its news media used to protray the goevernemt's opinion, and persuade you to agee and do what ever it is it wants you to do." Set said.

Waddles 02-12-2009 09:35 PM

Hand up, Juniper was ready to answer again. "Propaganda is the technique used by governments and companies and such to distort people's view of something. Advertisers use it all the time to make you prefer their product, and it's found in history when historical facts are distorted. As in, only some are included, and they're even tweaked sometimes, to make someone feel a specific way," she said.

Danny Boy 02-12-2009 09:40 PM

"information, ideas, or rumors deliberately spread widely to help or harm a person, group, movement, institution, nation and so on, it could I think be used to cover up history people don`t want us to know" stated Barry factly


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