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Lislchen 02-12-2009 08:17 PM

Okay, that music in the background was starting to become quite annoying actually. Meh, couldn't he turn it off before Nancy freaked out completely? Apparently not. And what were their Runes and Care of Magical Creatures professors doing here?? Weird, very weird. Quotes about history? Hesitantly raising her hand Nancy said, "Uhm...wasn't there this woman called...uhm...Pearl Buck? Anyways, she said If you want to understand today, you have to search yesterday., right?" At least that's what she had heard.

Hollister 02-12-2009 08:17 PM

"'Every man's life lies within the present; for the past is spent and done with, and the future is uncertain.' - By Marcus Aelius Aurelius, I like that one." Miles beamed.

He nodded at the professor's comment, you could overdue it on histroy a bit.

Torchwood 02-12-2009 08:17 PM

Qaz raised her hand and offered, 'David Ben Gurion said that Anyone who believes you can't change history has never tried to write his memoirs....which leads me to what I think is the most profound, but I don't know who said it.....History is written by the winners.'

Mrs. Weasley 02-12-2009 08:18 PM

"History is, strictly speaking, the study of questions; the study of answers belongs to anthropology and sociology.
Wystan Hugh Auden

Histories make men wise; poets, witty; the mathematics, subtle; natural philosophy, deep; moral, grave; logic and rhetoric, able to contend."
Sir Francis Bacon

Past and to come seem best; things present worst."
-- Mary Bertone
"History is an account mostly false, of events mostly unimportant, which are brought about by rulers, mostly knaves, and soldiers, mostly fools."
Ambrose Gwinett Bierce

purple·myst 02-12-2009 08:19 PM

Kait raised her hand again and recited of a quote that had been one of her father's favourites, he'd said it so many times she had it remembered. "Just because the solutions of problems are not visible at any particular time does not mean that those problems will never be alleviated -- or confined to tolerable dimensions. History has a way of changing the very terms in which problems operate and of leaving them, in the end, unsolved, to be sure, yet strangely deflated of their original meaning and importance." She said the last part of the quote slower than the last, making sure she got the wording right from what she remembered from growing up. She realized she didn't say who had said the quote so she raised her hand again and said, "It was M. I. Abramowitz who said that"

SilverTiger 02-12-2009 08:25 PM

Elizabeth raised her hand again. "Karl Marx said 'The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles.' And he also said 'History is the judge;-its executioner, the proletariat.' And Eisenhower said 'The history of free men is never really written by chance but by choice - their choice.'"

Waddles 02-12-2009 08:25 PM

Juniper's hand was in the air again. "Cicero said 'Not to know what has been transacted in former times is to continue always a child,'" Juniper said. "He also said, 'History is indeed the witness of the times, the light of truth.'"

hufflepuff_keeper_11 02-12-2009 08:29 PM

Set raised his hand and said repeated a famous histroy quote, "History: It's being made right now!". Set said. "I means that what we do know, becomes histroy in like one second, because it happend in the past."

Con_Stripes 02-12-2009 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by LisaPotter1125 (Post 7840096)
Iliana quietly prowled her way toward the History of Magic classroom. She stopped abruptly when she spotted Less hanging out just inside the door. Of all the people that might appear, she had to run into the only one that would be able to recognize her. Shoot! Oh well, her curiosity would surely get the better of her if she tried to go. She'd just have to risk it.

She watched as Less become enthralled with the music and smiled at the selection. Haha, CATS! How appropriate for her to be here after all. When she was sure that Alessia was looking the other way, she quickly slipped in through the door and under the desk, out of sight, nervously swishing her tail back and forth as she watch him.

Ethan watched as the pretty cat that had shown up in his last class appeared once again. "Who's... cat is this?"

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Originally Posted by coolgirl97 (Post 7840101)
Hannah Leigh rose her hand again.
"Robert Penn Warren said, 'The past is always a rebuke to the present',"Hannah Leigh remembered. "And Carl L. Becker said 'History is the memory of things said and done.'"
She was glad that she had a large memory. Hopefully those were good quotes, she liked the Becker one because thats what he was talking about-what history was.
"There is also one I disagree with, professer. By Norman Pearson. He said 'To look back on history is to inevitably distort it.' I think to look back on history is to make it all the more greater and actually....helps us out with understanding it a lot more."

"A rebuke to the present. That ties in well with the answers you all gave to the last question." Ethan nodded and paused to listen to her thoughts, "I like hearing opinons and I agree with you on that one. I don't think looking back is what distorts; its more the method of looking that provides distortion. So look right, right?"

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Originally Posted by HPobsession33 (Post 7840102)
Allie riased her hand.
"'There are two kinds of man: the ones who make history and the ones who endure it.' is a quote, Porffessor. But I dont remember who said it." she said.

"Ah and I believe there is a third type too." Ethan noted, "Possibly more. But it is a good quote, Allie."

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Originally Posted by Monkey Princess (Post 7840107)
William continued to smile as he raised his hand slightly, "Um, well I heard this one awhile ago from my mom. She was speaking about a muggle ""History is, strictly speaking, the study of questions; the study of answers belongs to anthropology and sociology." I don't know what he did but she said his name was Wystan Hugh Auden and he wrote poetry or something. " He replied, trying in vain to come up with a good quote.

Truebridge slid his glasses up onto his head, "This is one of my favourites. The study of questions! History is like philosophy except there are more facts to support speculation." He paused and looked around, "You can all quote me on that."

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Originally Posted by baybee-clo... (Post 7840109)
Shana thought she thought about all the hhistorical people she'd learned about she looked all through her notes but no-one she couldn't remeber anyone then suddenly She raised her hand.Marcus Aelius Aurelius Once Said Every man's life lies within the present; for the past is spent and done with, and the future is uncertain. She then put her hand down.

"True enough. The key is using the lessons you learned from the past, in your present, to shape your future." Truebridge noted, with a straight face and a little wink.

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Originally Posted by kami12 (Post 7840113)
Ray raised his hand again and answered "Prejudice is a burden that confuses the past, threatens the future and renders the present inaccessible, Maya Angelou"

"Very true. That applies quite well to Wizarding history."

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Originally Posted by Amira With a C (Post 7840114)
Oh my God, quotes. Camira loved quotes. She knew quotes for everything, even something as dreaded as history. She quickly raised her hand. "I have a few that come to mind, sir. Gustave Flaubert, for one, who said "Our ignorance of history causes us to slander our own times." I also find Maya Angelou's "History, despite its wrenching pain, cannot be unlived, but if faced with courage, need not be lived again" stunningly accurate."

"Maya Angelou has several apt quotes regarding History. Ethan agreed.

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Originally Posted by Rachie..x (Post 7840118)
Vanessa thought for a second before raising her hand. "There would be "The men who make history have not time to write it." which was said by Metternich and another could be "History no longer shall be a dull book. It shall walk incarnate in every just and wise man. You shall not tell me by language and titles a catalogue of the volumes you have read. You shall make me feel what periods you have lived." which was said by Ralph Waldo Emerson"


"Those are good ones." Zan nodded, "Thank you, Vanessa."

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Originally Posted by Hedwig18 (Post 7840120)
Ana raised her hand "erm..."We learn from history that we learn nothing from history", by George Bernard Shaw, for example"

"In other words; history repeats." Ethan clarified.

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Originally Posted by Celandine (Post 7840122)
Celandine wrote down her previous answer and raised her hand, " Jane Haddam said; People always seemed to know half of history, and to get it confused with the other half."

"That is a very true quote. Almost a fact really."

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Originally Posted by Whitterz (Post 7840123)
Lima raised her hand and said, "Sir Francis Bacon said that 'History makes people wise. '."

"Sir Francis Bacon was right about that. I am fairly wise." Ethan agreed deadpan.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoerawrr (Post 7840126)
Jake noted the use of that accent when Professor Truebridge answered him. Hmmm... ok, he liked this guy. He was on the list. The List. Jake wasn;t sure which list, but when he made one, Truebridge would be there... unless it was an avoidance li- FOCUS!!!!!

After writing the necessary notes, Jake raised his hand, doubting whether this was a relevant quote, but stumped when it came to thinking of any more. "Ya can't live in the past, Professor." Ok, so less of a quote, more of a saying.

"Philosophy. Like I said." Ethan noted with a nod of conviction.

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Originally Posted by Lislchen (Post 7840127)
Okay, that music in the background was starting to become quite annoying actually. Meh, couldn't he turn it off before Nancy freaked out completely? Apparently not. And what were their Runes and Care of Magical Creatures professors doing here?? Weird, very weird. Quotes about history? Hesitantly raising her hand Nancy said, "Uhm...wasn't there this woman called...uhm...Pearl Buck? Anyways, she said If you want to understand today, you have to search yesterday., right?" At least that's what she had heard.

Hmm. Zan couldn't quite hear the music over the deafening din of students thinking. He flicked his wand and turned it up slightly. "Yes that is a good quote. Perhaps it applies quite nicely to contemporary events here at Hogwarts?"

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Originally Posted by Hollister (Post 7840128)
"'Every man's life lies within the present; for the past is spent and done with, and the future is uncertain.' - By Marcus Aelius Aurelius, I like that one." Miles beamed.

He nodded at the professor's comment, you could overdue it on histroy a bit.

"I like it too." Ethan agreed again.

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Originally Posted by Torchwood (Post 7840129)
Qaz raised her hand and offered, 'David Ben Gurion said that Anyone who believes you can't change history has never tried to write his memoirs....which leads me to what I think is the most profound, but I don't know who said it.....History is written by the winners.'

"Those are interesting ones, Qaz." Zan noted.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrs. Weasley (Post 7840132)
"History is, strictly speaking, the study of questions; the study of answers belongs to anthropology and sociology.
Wystan Hugh Auden

Histories make men wise; poets, witty; the mathematics, subtle; natural philosophy, deep; moral, grave; logic and rhetoric, able to contend."
Sir Francis Bacon

Past and to come seem best; things present worst."
-- Mary Bertone
"History is an account mostly false, of events mostly unimportant, which are brought about by rulers, mostly knaves, and soldiers, mostly fools."
Ambrose Gwinett Bierce

"Ah, thank you."

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thumper (Post 7840136)
Kait raised her hand again and recited of a quote that had been one of her father's favourites, he'd said it so many times she had it remembered. "Just because the solutions of problems are not visible at any particular time does not mean that those problems will never be alleviated -- or confined to tolerable dimensions. History has a way of changing the very terms in which problems operate and of leaving them, in the end, unsolved, to be sure, yet strangely deflated of their original meaning and importance." She said the last part of the quote slower than the last, making sure she got the wording right from what she remembered from growing up. She realized she didn't say who had said the quote so she raised her hand again and said, "It was M. I. Abramowitz who said that"

"Thank you. A good lesson in that one indeed." Truebridge responded gravely.

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Originally Posted by SilverTiger (Post 7840157)
Elizabeth raised her hand again. "Karl Marx said 'The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles.' And he also said 'History is the judge;-its executioner, the proletariat.' And Eisenhower said 'The history of free men is never really written by chance but by choice - their choice.'"

"Thank you Elizabeth."

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Originally Posted by Waddles (Post 7840159)
Juniper's hand was in the air again. "Cicero said 'Not to know what has been transacted in former times is to continue always a child,'" Juniper said. "He also said, 'History is indeed the witness of the times, the light of truth.'"

"Those are some of my favourites, Juniper."

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Originally Posted by hufflepuff_keeper_11 (Post 7840174)
Set raised his hand and said repeated a famous histroy quote, "History: It's being made right now!". Set said. "I means that what we do know, becomes histroy in like one second, because it happend in the past."

"So it does." Ethan agreed.

Slytherin Princess 02-12-2009 08:37 PM

Ruby raised her hand and said "A wise man will make more opportunities than he finds Francis Bacon an English lawyer and philosopher"

Droo 02-12-2009 08:55 PM

Alessia looked around. She wanted to hear her favorite song... Macavity... it was her favorite song. He wouldn't notice if she just did it nonverbally... so she flicked her wand and the needle on the grammaphone dragged to the right song making such a loud scratching noise, Alessia couldn't help but laugh... "Sorry, Professor Truebridge... I... couldn't help myself."

PadfootAndTheWolf 02-12-2009 09:01 PM

Chris raised his hand and said "I know one! 'To write history one must be more than a man, since the author who holds the pen of this great justicary, should be free of all pre-ocupation of interest, or vanity. Bye Napleon Bonaparte."

Con_Stripes 02-12-2009 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeerCassandraTrelawney (Post 7840281)
Alessia looked around. She wanted to hear her favorite song... Macavity... it was her favorite song. He wouldn't notice if she just did it nonverbally... so she flicked her wand and the needle on the grammaphone dragged to the right song making such a loud scratching noise, Alessia couldn't help but laugh... "Sorry, Professor Truebridge... I... couldn't help myself."

Zan looked at Professor Lupa in surprise as the music changed, her laugh setting him a bit off balance. "No concern." He waved it off and hummed along with the song for a bit to illustrate that he didn't mind at all.

Oh.

Class.

Yeah.

Truebridge cleared his throat, "So; where do we get history from anyway?"

BeccaBear 02-12-2009 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NicoT (Post 7840198)
Ethan watched as the pretty cat that had shown up in his last class appeared once again. "Who's... cat is this?"




"Ah and I believe there is a third type too." Ethan noted, "Possibly more. But it is a good quote, Allie."

Allie didn’t know what made her do it, but she found herself throwing her hands up in there and exclaiming, “There you are Minky! I’ve been looking everywhere for you!”
She didn’t know if that cat’s real owner was in the class or not, which would be quite embarrassing, now that she thought about it. Maybe she shouldn’t have said anything. Oh well, too late now, might as well go along with it.
“She’s mine, Professor. I keep on losing her, I’m sorry. But she does seem to really like your class.” She said with a smile.

"Ohh and thank you, sir. But what is the third type?" she asked.

purple·myst 02-12-2009 09:04 PM

Kaitlynn's hand went up in the air again as she answered the Professor's question, "It comes from our past, all the events that have happened make up what call history, but at one point it was just every day stuff to those who were in the present of that time." She let her hand fall and listened to what the other students had to say.

hufflepuff_keeper_11 02-12-2009 09:05 PM

Set raised his hand spat as if he had swallowed the textbook, "The word history comes from Greek ἱστορία (historia), from the Proto-Indo-European *wid-tor-, from the root *weid-, "to know, to see". This root is also present in the English words wit, wise, wisdom, vision, and idea, in the Sanskrit word veda, and in the Slavic word videti and vedati, as well as others. (The asterisk before a word indicates that it is a hypothetical construction, not an attested form.)" Set finished taking in a deep breath.

RachieRu 02-12-2009 09:05 PM

"Sir. Didn't people from the past like write down things that happened. Like records and such. And we find out what happened from those documents?" Vanessa thought outloud with her hand raised.

ChloeeCloverr 02-12-2009 09:05 PM

Shana thought and raised her hand We got it from the past people that lived in the past made history and we are making history right now for people in the future. Shana put down her hand and smiled at the professor.

Con_Stripes 02-12-2009 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPobsession33 (Post 7840329)
Allie didn’t know what made her do it, but she found herself throwing her hands up in there and exclaiming, “There you are Minky! I’ve been looking everywhere for you!”
She didn’t know if that cat’s real owner was in the class or not, which would be quite embarrassing, now that she thought about it. Maybe she shouldn’t have said anything. Oh well, too late now, might as well go along with it.
“She’s mine, Professor. I keep on losing her, I’m sorry. But she does seem to really like your class.” She said with a smile.

"Ohh and thank you, sir. But what is the third type?" she asked.

Ethan blinked a few times and nodded slowly, "Alright Allie. I don't mind pets in class as long as they don't hurt anyone. Though... minky? Is a sweet one." Ethan extended his hand to the cat, "The third type? Why, the ones who learn from it of course."

hpluvr037 02-12-2009 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NicoT (Post 7840323)
Zan looked at Professor Lupa in surprise as the music changed, her laugh setting him a bit off balance. "No concern." He waved it off and hummed along with the song for a bit to illustrate that he didn't mind at all.

Oh.

Class.

Yeah.

Truebridge cleared his throat, "So; where do we get history from anyway?"

Keefer stuck both hands into the air, as was his usual custom. "We get history from books, mostly. But it can be passed down orally as well. Also, to some degree, the earth itself can tell us history. Archaeologists have uncovered lots of things that help us know about the past. Geologists have learned things from rock strata as well."

PadfootAndTheWolf 02-12-2009 09:07 PM

Chris raised his hand "History is everything that has happened in the past and has been kept recoreded." he smiled

SilverTiger 02-12-2009 09:07 PM

Elizabeth looked over as the Professor brought attention to a cat that had wandered into class, almost expecting to see Bella. But it wasn't, so she shrugged, before her head snapped around as the Runes professor changed the song playing on the gramophone. That song certainly sounded familiar to her. Since she had been singing it a while back to her kneazle.

Then she raised her hand again. "We get history from all around us. Whether it be from experiences we have personally had, or things we've heard about from others. Family, friends, professors . . . books. "

Droo 02-12-2009 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NicoT (Post 7840198)
Ethan watched as the pretty cat that had shown up in his last class appeared once again. "Who's... cat is this?"

Alessia recognized the cat. For crying out loud Ili she thought to herself. She wasn't Miss Johnson's... "Miss Johnson, I don't believe she's your minky... though I may be wrong... She's... uhmmm mine..." Nevermind her alergy to felines... Really, a wolf with a cat. "Uhmmm" she stood and went, "KstKst..." she made the noise, but it sounded awful... "Uhmm, Come here little..." she couldn't call her Iliana! Hmmmm "Come here TinkerbellPrincessBuns..." She giggled internally thinking of what Ili would think of the name, but really... all Ili needed was to be given to a student!

TeafortheSoul 02-12-2009 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NicoT (Post 7840323)
Zan looked at Professor Lupa in surprise as the music changed, her laugh setting him a bit off balance. "No concern." He waved it off and hummed along with the song for a bit to illustrate that he didn't mind at all.

Oh.

Class.

Yeah.

Truebridge cleared his throat, "So; where do we get history from anyway?"

Cela raised her hand, "The... past?"

Golden Monkey 02-12-2009 09:09 PM

William put his hand into the air, "We get history from the everyday things we do. The good, and the bad things. It all depends on who's there to write it down." He replied, grinning happily. Oh yes he was in a very good mood.


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