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PhoenixRising 11-21-2008 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Zellanna (Post 7501148)

"It will, however you are not thinking the right way. We are assuming the rose is not getting enough of something. Sunlight, water, or nutrition. What will the rose actively do?"


He nodded in response. "That is true. A rose will even stop blooming while still budding, and kill off the buds in order to conserve energy. Two points." He looked around, waiting to see if there would be other answers.



Frowning slightly when the professor told him he wasn't thinking the right way, Dominic slid down in his chair. But then piped as he heard him compliment someone else. That someone else being Camira. Shaking his head subtly, he could not let her win. There had to be some other mechanism rose bushes used for survival.

Raising his hand, the fourth year spoke. "The rose will actively produce an oil that helps to supply nutrients to the plant when hydration is low. Attar of rose is the steam-extracted essential oil from rose flowers."

fabula puella 11-21-2008 10:34 PM

Lisa listened to what was being said with a frowned expression on her face.She didn't really get what they were talking about, but she was listening.She looked around to see if there were any first-years.She couldn't find any.

Amira With a C 11-21-2008 10:37 PM

Camira raised her hand again, thinking of something else. "Professor, I know that some species of rose, such as the Dog Rose and the Rugosa Rose are very rich in Vitamin C. If the bush weren't getting enough of what it needed, it could use the vitamin C to reduce oxidative damage."

Zellanna 11-21-2008 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rachie..x (Post 7501156)
"Doesn't the Rose bush grow upwards, the flowers it produces towards the top. Which would mean that they would be able to collect the most avaliable light?" Vannie spoke, sounding a little unsure as she raised her hand.

"Mmm... you're thinking about it. There is something that the rose will do that has to do with that."

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Originally Posted by PhoenixRising (Post 7501174)
Raising his hand, the fourth year spoke. "The rose will actively produce an oil that helps to supply nutrients to the plant when hydration is low. Attar of rose is the steam-extracted essential oil from rose flowers."

"That does help. Producing such oils will help the rose stay hydrated in times of drought."

He looked them all over. "Back to growing upwards... There is one final thing that a rose will do. It is its last attempt at life. It will grow one horribly thorny branch with the last of its energy. And shoot it up as high as it can as a last attempt to get to sunlight. This last effort, however, has a tendency to kill it. Any questions?"

Disneymaniac 11-21-2008 10:48 PM

"Why does it do it, if it makes it die Sir?" Theo asked, frowning slightly. "If somefing was going to make me die, I wouldn't do it cos it would mean I would die. And I don't want to die. But I am going to anyway cos my mummy is having a new baby, and dere isn't enough room for it. So I am going to be put on da compost cos I am da smallest."

Amira With a C 11-21-2008 10:49 PM

Camira listened to Professor Carracio speak and then raised her hand. She was confused about one thing. "Professor, does the branch have any leaves? Aern't leaves required to absorb the sunlight or can the branch do it on its own?" Maybe that's why it died instead?

RachieRu 11-21-2008 10:53 PM

Vanessa thought for a second. If the plant used all it's energy to grow that one branch, then surely there wouldn't be any energy left for the other processes the plant had to do. "Professor. Would the Rose die as all the energy that it had left went into growing that one branch which would mean it wouldn't have the energy recquired for other processes, such as respiration?" She asked as she raised her hand, feeling a little confused.

Zellanna 11-21-2008 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jenster (Post 7501241)
"Why does it do it, if it makes it die Sir?" Theo asked, frowning slightly. "If somefing was going to make me die, I wouldn't do it cos it would mean I would die. And I don't want to die. But I am going to anyway cos my mummy is having a new baby, and dere isn't enough room for it. So I am going to be put on da compost cos I am da smallest."

He paused a moment. Being put on the compost pile? Apparently he wasn't that far gone, because before he could think about it he spoke: "Theo, come see me after class. But as to your question, it sees it as its only chance of living. Sometimes... you put your all into something, because you see it as your only chance. And sometimes you lose your life for it." His words rung of past experience, and he decided to end that line there.

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Originally Posted by camirayaxley (Post 7501252)
Camira listened to Professor Carracio speak and then raised her hand. She was confused about one thing. "Professor, does the branch have any leaves? Aern't leaves required to absorb the sunlight or can the branch do it on its own?" Maybe that's why it died instead?

"It can. The thorns, when they first grow, are green as well. It will try to leaf, but it gets difficult."

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Originally Posted by Rachie..x (Post 7501277)
Vanessa thought for a second. If the plant used all it's energy to grow that one branch, then surely there wouldn't be any energy left for the other processes the plant had to do. "Professor. Would the Rose die as all the energy that it had left went into growing that one branch which would mean it wouldn't have the energy recquired for other processes, such as respiration?" She asked as she raised her hand, feeling a little confused.

"That is precisely what happens, Vanessa. After a while of growing, there is no energy left for anything else."

Liisa 11-21-2008 11:08 PM

Astrid frowned at the idea of it. "But that's so sad, Professor." she said with her hand raised. Whoever thought she feel sad for a plant? she thought. But was that so unheard of? It was a living thing too. And the whole subject was a bit depressing when you thought of it.

Disneymaniac 11-21-2008 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Zellanna (Post 7501320)


He paused a moment. Being put on the compost pile? Apparently he wasn't that far gone, because before he could think about it he spoke: "Theo, come see me after class. But as to your question, it sees it as its only chance of living. Sometimes... you put your all into something, because you see it as your only chance. And sometimes you lose your life for it." His words rung of past experience, and he decided to end that line there.

Theo frowned, "After class? Why Sir?" He was confused. Did he do something wrong? "But why would you do dat?" he didn't understand.

Slytherin Princess 11-21-2008 11:28 PM

Sapphire raised her hand "is there a spell that makes things turn to compost quicker?, i read that It can take from three months to a year or two for muggles"

Zellanna 11-21-2008 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by LisaPotter1125 (Post 7501354)
Astrid frowned at the idea of it. "But that's so sad, Professor." she said with her hand raised. Whoever thought she feel sad for a plant? she thought. But was that so unheard of? It was a living thing too. And the whole subject was a bit depressing when you thought of it.

"It can be, but this is how it is sometimes. In times of desperation, sometimes you do the only thing that you can. And sometimes, that's the end of it." He cleared his throat. "Anyhow, let's continue, shall we? Plants do have a tendency to do odd things that can jeopardize themselves. There are several problems that can occur as well, that are harder to fix."

He took one of the small plants that had been previously transplanted and set it before the class. "For instance. What could have been the problem with these?"

Liisa 11-21-2008 11:35 PM

Astrid thought about what the professor had said. It did make sense, but it was still kinda sad. She raised her hand to offer a guess at his next question. "Well, could their roots been damaged during the transplantation, sir?" she asked.

Slytherin Princess 11-21-2008 11:36 PM

Sapphire raised her hand "not enough sunlight, oxygen and water?"

Lissy Longbottom 11-21-2008 11:38 PM

Cale raised his hand. "Is that a plant like the ones we worked with and repotted last week? If so, maybe it didn't adjust right to the transplant and it died," he suggested.

PhoenixRising 11-21-2008 11:39 PM

Dominic twirled his quill absentmindedly as Professor Carracio told the small slytherin boy to see him after class, as 'sidekick' girl seemed to get overly emotional over the fact that some plants don't make it. Odd. Silly girls . . . Then the professor addressed the whole of the class again, indicating to one of the small plants that had been transplanted last lesson.

Raising his hand, the fourth year replied, "Well, perhaps the plant didn't get enough sunlight or water. Or maybe the planter wasn't the right fit for the plant."

Amira With a C 11-21-2008 11:41 PM

Hmmm. She thought hard, but could only think of one thing. "Sir, could it be transplant shock? The stress of being moved to a foreign area with different factors could have done that, right? Not to mention the possibility that the roots were accidentally damaged or the plant go too dry."

Danny Boy 11-21-2008 11:45 PM

Barry pondered the question and in the end he said "Um they wern`t given the right amount of the enviromental factors"

Zellanna 11-22-2008 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by LisaPotter1125 (Post 7501470)
Astrid thought about what the professor had said. It did make sense, but it was still kinda sad. She raised her hand to offer a guess at his next question. "Well, could their roots been damaged during the transplantation, sir?" she asked.

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Originally Posted by deviljo8586 (Post 7501471)
Sapphire raised her hand "not enough sunlight, oxygen and water?"

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Originally Posted by Miss Lissy Lou (Post 7501475)
Cale raised his hand. "Is that a plant like the ones we worked with and repotted last week? If so, maybe it didn't adjust right to the transplant and it died," he suggested.

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Originally Posted by PhoenixRising (Post 7501482)
Dominic twirled his quill absentmindedly as Professor Carracio told the small slytherin boy to see him after class, as 'sidekick' girl seemed to get overly emotional over the fact that some plants don't make it. Odd. Silly girls . . . Then the professor addressed the whole of the class again, indicating to one of the small plants that had been transplanted last lesson.

Raising his hand, the fourth year replied, "Well, perhaps the plant didn't get enough sunlight or water. Or maybe the planter wasn't the right fit for the plant."

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Originally Posted by camirayaxley (Post 7501484)
Hmmm. She thought hard, but could only think of one thing. "Sir, could it be transplant shock? The stress of being moved to a foreign area with different factors could have done that, right? Not to mention the possibility that the roots were accidentally damaged or the plant go too dry."

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Originally Posted by n1fanharry (Post 7501491)
Barry pondered the question and in the end he said "Um they wern`t given the right amount of the enviromental factors"

"Very good, all of you. Three points. All of those could be factors. This plant, however, is not yet dead." He turned it a little. "It's showing that it has little energy left. The leaves are a dark green, but wilted. Which means the likely culprit is being unable to absorb necessary water and possibly nutrients. Remember that overwatering is never the answer, and it's something of a rookie mistake. It can cause root rot, which will further damage the plant." He set it aside and looked about. "What might be possible solutions in trying to help the plant, if watering more will not help? Or should the plant be considered salvagable?"

PhoenixRising 11-22-2008 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Zellanna (Post 7501564)

"Very good, all of you. Three points. All of those could be factors. This plant, however, is not yet dead." He turned it a little. "It's showing that it has little energy left. The leaves are a dark green, but wilted. Which means the likely culprit is being unable to absorb necessary water and possibly nutrients. Remember that overwatering is never the answer, and it's something of a rookie mistake. It can cause root rot, which will further damage the plant." He set it aside and looked about. "What might be possible solutions in trying to help the plant, if watering more will not help? Or should the plant be considered salvagable?"


Listening to the professor speak again, Dominic eyed the plant just a few rows from him. What could possibly help? If not overwatering . . . Raising his hand, the fourth year suggested quietly, "Perhaps repotting the plant to fresh soil might be beneficial . . . or maybe," Pausing, Dominic bit his lip thoughtfully. "Try a different type of environment? For instance, changing the temperature of the surrounding air might help it to thrive."

PhoenixFlame 11-22-2008 12:33 AM

Ludo raised his hand, catching the Professor's attention. "Well there's transplanting or providing nutrients needed in the soil...Overall, I suppose you want to get it in an environment with everything it needs to survive."

Liisa 11-22-2008 12:35 AM

Astrid smiled, obviously happy to earn some points. "Professor, would it help to put the plant in more direct sunlight? Maybe it could help dry the excessively moist soil. Or maybe loosen the soil around the plants roots even." she answered with her hand up. As an afterthought she asked, "Is it possible to just cut off the roots that are affected and leave the healthy ones to try to survive on their own?"

Amira With a C 11-22-2008 12:38 AM

Wow. That was definitely a hard question. She raised her hand, after thinking for a few minutes and flipping through her text book. "Well, it would indicate damaged roots, wouldn't it, and I'm not aware of anything that can fix that. Isn't it just a wait and see kind of thing? Either the roots will repair themselves or new roots will grow, or the plant will die, right?"

Zellanna 11-22-2008 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by camirayaxley (Post 7501591)
Wow. That was definitely a hard question. She raised her hand, after thinking for a few minutes and flipping through her text book. "Well, it would indicate damaged roots, wouldn't it, and I'm not aware of anything that can fix that. Isn't it just a wait and see kind of thing? Either the roots will repair themselves or new roots will grow, or the plant will die, right?"

"Generally, Camira is right. Root damage is generally irreversable. However, we are wizards after all. There are a few potions that will make nutrients more easily available to the plant. There are also fertilizers and potions that can promote faster root growth. I actually had to do this with a good many of the plants transplanted. Unfortunately, these are the ones that are not improving."

He set it aside and pulled over a small row of plants that seemed to be dying. "There is also another class where there is nothing that you can do. These are plants that technically only live for a season. Most of us do not notice, because they are back the next year. However, they actually completely die off, and it is their young that lives on the next year. Can anyone name such a plant?"

EquestrianGal88 11-22-2008 01:19 AM

Freya raised her hand, herbology may not be her forte, but she might as well give it a shot. "Would the crocus be an example? Or a lily?...Maybe?" 'Or do they simply hibernate...?'


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