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"Sure, Raven... hex-deflection spells are any of a group of spells that will assist in rebounding spells instead of allowing them to hit you. Protego is one of those spells, and really one of the few easy enough for all levels of learners. Most stronger Dark spells are not stopped by a hex-deflector, but common curses and hexes are." |
Terry raises her hand. "Professor, are there times when dark curses such as the Avada Kedavra curse can be considered a defensive spell? I mean if a wizard finds himself in a sitiuation where he only defense is the kill his opponent. Would he be in violation of Ministry law?" |
Melanie looked down her her parchment. There were scribbles and some key words, but other than that she was terrible at taking notes. Maybe she could find someone to study with later... |
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Sarah looked at Raven. She was the smartest here, in her opinian. Sarah contined to take notes. |
"You know, Terry, that's a subject for much debate. In my opinion, and the opinion of some of my peers, there is never a reason to use an Unforgivable. I think you can always find a way to defend yourself that doesn't take someone's free will, or torture them with unbearable pain, or take their life. How much easier or harder is it to cast a Stupefy on someone than it is to kill them? And yet... there are wizards out there who think the ends always justify the means, and that in stopping a Dark Wizard, it doesn't matter how you go about it. You are all welcome to believe as you like, but let me remind you of the old saying "Be careful that in fighting the dragon, you do not become the dragon." |
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Raven shook her head. "Out of all the spells in the world they would have to chose that spell to defend themselves. I would think it would still be a violation. There are many spells you can use to defend yourself in time of danger. That spell is forbidden and there are other ways to defend yourself than killing your opponet." |
Antwone looked between Sarah and Raven. Come on guys, you're in the same house. Work toghether. Especially as Ravens! Antwone thought this to himsself. |
ali took notes knowing that he couldnt learn spells so well |
Lauren was talking notes and sitting, just listening, fasinated by how smart these people were. 'Someday I hope I'll be as smart as them.' Lauren thought to herself. She continued taking notes and couldn't wait to get the homework assignment so she could acually fell smart and earn some house points. |
"I think Raven may be refering to defensive charms. They will protect a person from hexes like a shield charm. I don't know very much about them." |
Sarah was awed by the proffesor's speech. She agreed that there was indeed no excuse to use a curse that could kill. |
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Listening to Professor Rae, Raven raised her eyebrow and wrote down that quote. "That is actually quite good,' she muttered under her breathe looking at Professor Rae. |
Melanie raised her hand. "I agree. I don't feel that there's any reason to ever use the Killing Curse. It's not like in the muggle world where if two people have guns then one can shoot the other in self-defense. You can disarm a wizard." |
'and wouldn't casting an unforgivable spell on somebody be the same as executing without trial?' Rosa added to raven's story. 'but if you could safe a lot of lives with it, what would you do? that'd really be a difficult choice, I think' |
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Rae smiled at Antwone's thought before continuing. "Let's move on so we have time at the end for something more interesting. Now... I know there is much debate on what is or is not a Dark Creature, so we're not even going to bother listing them today. Just tell me what you think would help to classify a creature as Dark." ooc: You should know I have access to teh same resources as you, so any answers that appear striaght off a book or webpage do not get credit. I want YOUR thoughts and ideas. |
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Sarah raised her hand. "A creature with dark properties. Like a Kelpie. They kill, and don't help with anything." |
Lauren raised her hand. ''Maybe if the creature has a dark wizard as a master that could classify them a dark..'' |
Antwone pondered on the thought of Dark Creatures deeply...what made a dark creature? Well, what makes a light creature? |
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Rosa smiled. this was really a good class. a lot better than perry's, definitely. she thought a while over the next question of professor rae. then she raised her hand 'maybe a creature who would attack you, but is conscious of doing so, not just because he wants you to go away, like a dog would do if you hit it. one that might even go looking for victims.' |
'To classify a Dark creature we should know how poisonous or dangerous the creature is. And if we had any doubts we should read the classification that the department of Regulation and Control of Magical Creatures give us.' |
"would dark mean something which ,means to cause pain to humans and other animals?" |
Lauren rasied her hand again feeling very smart. ''Also, even though mostly all creatures have the ability to hurt someone or something, only dark ones take advantage of that skill.'' |
"A Dark creature would be considered dark when it is magical of nature, they do not complete a life cycle the way most animals do, and they just tend to harm you for no good reason," Alex replied with her hand raised. "Also they exist simply as a physical extension of an evil intention," she added, biting her lip and frowning. Perhaps this was not one of the longer answers, but it was hort and sweet. |
Sarah wrote down the information the Raven had said. Interesting, Sarah thought. She had no idea half of these things. |
Raven had just realised that she had said how they got their rating. But honestly wasn't good enough information. SHe didn't know what made them be classified as Dark Creatures if it wasn't by what the ministry rated them. |
Professor Rae really gets her students thinking outside the box. Antwone enjoyed herstyle of teaching, very personal and deep reaching. Not just a bunch of trivia questions for points. |
Terry's raises her hand. "It's a creature whose sole purpose in life is to do evil. They have no redeeming qualities." |
"Interesting class, I said it would be great!" Christy though to herself. She was enjoying the class very much. Always taking notes and listening the other students. |
Mel pondered for a moment. "I think what makes a creature Dark is when everything it does causes harm. Or if it's the kind of creature who kills for fun." She prodded her head for more answers. "Though it's not really fair to include an entire race as evil. We learned from the history of Harry Potter that some creatures that are considered "evil" in general do have some exceptions. Just as some creatures that are considered light could have some evil doings in them." |
"I definitely see a difference of opinion here. I hear some people talking about how dangerous an animal is. To them, I ask this question... is a dragon a dark creature? Or does it hurt people and animals as a means of getting food and protecting itself and it's young?" "There are others of you who are talking about the intention of the animal, and I think you have the right idea. An animal that is dangerous or hurts someone out of it's very nature would be considered Dark. For example... why would a Grindylow be considered a Dark Creature?" |
"Well...i know that Unicorns are one of the purest creatures of the wizarding world. And demeantors are quite evil...seeking only for souls for theirselfs. Possible a dark creature is a creature that thinks one-minded, or even mindless. Zombies for example." ooc: are zombies wizardly? |
'Because Grindylows try to attack humans by strangulation' Christy said |
Raven raised her hand and smiled. "Gindylows are known as water demons that hide in bushes of seaweed." |
Sarah rraised her hand. "Because they hurt for no reason. Its not as tho they eat humans." |
do they attack people who go near their lairs, im not sure |
"I understand your concern, Melanie, but Dark Creatures don't have a normal life cycle as Alex pointed out. They are evil in intent and purpose. They were created to be evil and they will not die unless something happens to make them cease to exist. They weren't just raised bad or good like a dog or a crup." |
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Lauren raised her hand. ''Well considering it is a water DEMON..I would say yes.'' |
"A grindylow could be considered dark because it only needs small fish to eat, and yet it still attacks humans, wizard or muggle." |
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Sarah nodded and wrote down the info. |
Rosa raised her hand 'when you'd reach their territorium they wouldn't attack you to hunt you away, but just to kill you. and they wouldn't do it because you were an easy meal, but just for the strangling itself.' |
Alex raised her hand again. "Because their main purpose in life really is to do evil," she said, simply. "Although, I have heard that a few Grindylows have been domesticated by Merpeople. Hold on ... then would they really be considered Dark creatures? I mean, if someone to alter their lifestyle, would they still be Dark?" she asked, frowning the Professor Rae and stroking her chin at the same time. |
Lauren blushed. ''Sorry..I answered the question wrong..'' |
baciscally, they have a reputation of enjoying kills,answered ali, feeling cleverer by the minite |
Sarah said, "I don't think that Merpeople would be considered dark. They don't hurt unless they are protecting themselves." |
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"I think Sarah hit the answer right on," Rae pointed to the Ravenclaw girl. "A grindylow will attack for the pleasure of the kill or the attack, not because he wants food or because he feels he is in danger. Five points for Ravenclaw. Now... not all Dark Creatures attack in a physical way. Can anyone name a Dark Creature that harms you in a non-physical way?" |
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"Well, a Basilisk can kill you just by you looking into its eyes...is that still physical?" |
Raven raised her hand and smiled. "A Banshee." |
Rosa raised her hands. 'boggarts and dementors do.' she said. 'dementors make you remember your worst memory, and boggarts turn into your worst fear.' |
Terry raises her hand. "That would be a boggart. It harms you by using your fears as a weapon against you." |
Sarah flushed with pride at the proffesore's words and raised her hand saying, "Dementors." |
'Can we consider a Dementor?' |
Alex raised her hand. "Dementors," she said, simply. "They hurt you mentally, not physically. They suck all the happy thoughts and feelings out of you, until you are left with nothing, but bad memories. And if you do not have the strenght to do the Patronus Charm, they suck out your soul and you are nothing, but flesh. And of course, you are still alive because your heart and brain are still functioning. But except for that .. nothing," she said, her voice slowly getting quieter as she spoke. "Also .. the Boggart, but ... they can hurt you physically as well, can they not?" Alex asked, looking up at Professor Rae. |
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"Oh, and Mandrake's Screams can kill you...I guess your eyes and ears are still physical, but it's not like they ripped you in half." |
'I'm just curious, a Mandrake is a Creature?' Christy asked shyly... |
"Yes... a dementor, a banshee, and a boggart are all good answers. A basilisk still kills you, so I'll consider that as physical harm. The other answer I would have accepted would have been a pogrebin. Fifteen total points to Ravenclaw. Let's move on again... we're almost through our list. Dark Wizards... there is a difference between a Dark Wizard and a wizard who uses Dark spells. What is it?" |
"No... a Mandrake is a plant." |
Antwone was becoming a bit discouraged...Ravenclaw was pulling away rapidly. |
Sarah raised her hand and asked the proffesor, "Im sorry, but what is a pogrebin?" |
Lauren raises her hand. ''Dark wizards use dark spells to intentionally hurt someone but wizards who use dark spells just use them for defense.'' |
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"A Dark Wizard uses Dark Magic for themselves like persurving their live and junk. But a normal old wizard that uses Dark Magic to say, protect someone is much different." |
a dark wizard is a person who knows the spells are bad but uses it anyway wheras a wizard who uses dark spell could not know the magical propeties of the spell. take harry potter for instance when he performs sectumsempra |
"Oh, I know. A pogrebin is a demon that follows its prey until they (the prey) are so overcome with despair they fall down and cry." |
Rosa raised her hand. they'd already discussed this a bit with the dark spells. 'a wizard using a dark spell could even use it to prevent the dark wizard from more harm being done.' she said. 'but a dark wizard wouldn't only do it for the power it'd provide him, but also because he enjoys to make people frightened or hurt them.' |
"A Dark Wizard takes pleasure out of using the Dark Spells and doing harm, but a wizard who uses dark spells probably uses them becuase they must, for..one reason or another." |
"Thank you for answering that, Melanie. Five points to Hufflepuff." "As for your other answers... I see how you're thinking, and I like this line of thought for the most part. What you're saying is... someone who occasionally uses a Dark Spell isn't necessarily a Dark Wizard? Right?" |
"I think a Dark Wizard uses his powers for Dark, and he/she knows what they're doing. Like, if someone's being possessed and using dark magic, they wouldn't be considered dark." Sarah said as she raised her hand. "And no, I don't think using a dark spell once would make you dark." |
a pogrebin is a creature which looks like a rock when crouched.it is a russian demon, its danger rating is xxx they can be repelled by hexes like stupefy and kicking |
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"well you don't really need to use dark spells to be a dark wizard professor. that is the way i see it. you can use dark spells occasionlly but still can be a dark wizard." |
'A pogrebin is a Russian demon, they follow people until the human collapse and then they devour the human, but I'm not sure' Christy said with a blush. |
sarah nodded her thanks to the people who had answered her question and wrote down the answer. |
Christy smiled to the girl who nodded thanks, and kept writing millions of notes and ideas. |
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:: Lauren sat in the back, quietley. No sound game from her except the scratching of her quill talking notes. She looked around the class and waited. :: |
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"A dark wizard is someone like Voldemort or Voldemortist who is consumed by dark magic to the point they have lost a semblence of a human being. They may have even gone so far as to divide their soul in an effort to make themselves immortal. A wizard who uses dark spells is one who dabbles in dark magic. He uses dark spell, but has yet to totally loose his human nature." |
Afton nodded her head in agreement with the others. |
Sarah was impressed by the girl's answer. She wrote it down. |
"It depends on what spell they use," she said, slowly. "And some people might have to use one without really wnjoying it. Although, those who do enjoy and have the hunger for more power, that's what I think the difference is between Dark Wizards and someone who uses a Dark spell," she added, frowning at the same time. She was getting really unsure of her answers. |
a dark wizard is someone who has a hunger for using dark spells |
"I like all of your definitions. Terry, you did an excellent job encompassing the concept... and thank you for bringing up the idea that using Dark Magic steals one's humanity. I think we definitely have seen that in the Dark Wizards of this century. Five points." Rae set down her wand and settled back on her desk. "We have one last thing to discuss. In this class, there will be times when we use our wands on each other in a duel or practice setting. Let's lay down some ground rules for that please. Any ideas?" |
no unfogivable curses be fair in duels |
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"use only the spells that you are intrstruted to" she said |
Rosa raised her hand 'discuss with each other what spells you'll be using.' |
"No dark spells, like sectumsempra." (sp?) Sarah said, raising her hand. |
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