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11-09-2007, 07:17 AM
| | Realistic RPGing? I just wanted to get people's opinion on this. What does everyone consider realistic and unrealistic when RPGing? |
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Nah, I know what the Cult is. That's not what I meant. When I mentioned priests, I was talking about a plot where members of the Ministry had to find a priest so that he could marry two people. The priest is also Catholic. I will find the posts and quote them right here:
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Why did you remove the quote instead of the whole post? You didn't want this topic to continue, so why not delete the whole post? It makes it look as if you were simply deleting the part that proved my point. I asm not accusing you, but if you read this, please delete my whole post.
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Reason: removing religion based topic. As I said we're moving on from that now.
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02-04-2012, 07:28 PM
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| Jarvey
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I think that being realistic is setting up strengths and weaknesses for your character and to stay true to those. After all, this is a Wizarding RPG so it can't exactly be "realistic". For example: My character Carigan is good at divination because her mother tells fortunes for a living. SHe is also good at making things with her hands because of her father. She s good with plants because of where her family lives; however, she has never tended magical plants before so she is a bit hesitant with herbology, but in the end does an okay job.
You need to stick to your strengths and weaknesses otherwise your character is too perfect, and that's not fun to play. If your character is shy, they would probably have more inner monologue than speaking, and vice versa with outgoing characters. ANother example from my experience is: My character Carigan is very outgoing and loves people so she talks A LOT. She also rambles. I will often use what seems like run-on sentences when she speaks because of this. I will also use ellipses (...) when she pauses.
That's just a few things from my own experiences that I find to be helpful.
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02-05-2012, 02:05 AM
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Most of what you guys said is what I was going to write about; flaws, not going too far with drama/powers/anything else. However, one of the things that usually make the RP VERY unrealistic, even silly sometimes is when one of the charries read the other's mind. I know sometimes you make that mistake once or twice, I know I did a couple of times myself, but doing it constantly proving that your character is a sharp eye reader or something like this is way too unrealistic to me.
That is why, actually, I prefer to bold the dialogue out in my post so that the other person will catch what their character should be replying to instead of getting distracted or something. It also helps anyone who wants to have a double-personality character; someone who knows how to sweet-talk everyone when they have a bitter spirit within.
This and relationships, especially ones starting at ages 11,12,13 I'd say up to 16 Those, in my opinion, should be relationships based on instinct and hormones rather than deep understanding of life and love.
This is not something I really care about that much so long it doesn't affect any of my characters but I wanted to draw the attention to it again. My Hogwarts girl got her first kiss when she was fifteen and she doesn't even have a stable relationship, always struggling for love and promises and craving them too! But I don't think it'll be realistic for her to figure things out before at least her graduation.
I don't see how religious expressions got into the discussion of realistic RPing so I'm not going to comment on that, I just agree with Tommehbell on what she said in her last post.
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02-05-2012, 02:16 PM
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| Firecrab
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Originally Posted by Magical Soul Most of what you guys said is what I was going to write about; flaws, not going too far with drama/powers/anything else. However, one of the things that usually make the RP VERY unrealistic, even silly sometimes is when one of the charries read the other's mind. I know sometimes you make that mistake once or twice, I know I did a couple of times myself, but doing it constantly proving that your character is a sharp eye reader or something like this is way too unrealistic to me.
That is why, actually, I prefer to bold the dialogue out in my post so that the other person will catch what their character should be replying to instead of getting distracted or something. It also helps anyone who wants to have a double-personality character; someone who knows how to sweet-talk everyone when they have a bitter spirit within.
This and relationships, especially ones starting at ages 11,12,13 I'd say up to 16 Those, in my opinion, should be relationships based on instinct and hormones rather than deep understanding of life and love.
This is not something I really care about that much so long it doesn't affect any of my characters but I wanted to draw the attention to it again. My Hogwarts girl got her first kiss when she was fifteen and she doesn't even have a stable relationship, always struggling for love and promises and craving them too! But I don't think it'll be realistic for her to figure things out before at least her graduation.
I don't see how religious expressions got into the discussion of realistic RPing so I'm not going to comment on that, I just agree with Tommehbell on what she said in her last post. I agree with that! Sometimes I simply DON'T post what my character thinks, just so that the member I'm playing with doesn't make a mistake about what was said and what was thought. Most members make this mistake, including me.
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Reason: removing religion based topic. enough of that now.
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02-05-2012, 02:49 PM
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hmmm... a realistic RPG? sounds interesting topic
Here is my opinion
Realistic: Your charrie is 11 years old and you played it just like a 'normal' 11 years old child in real life. They play, they have fun, they fight and they ability was just like another 11 years old.
Unrealistic: Nah, I often found it nowadays. An eleven years old had a very serious love relationship and plan to get married after graduated
I, mostly agree about Magical_Soul just let our charrie live just like a normal person
(I think, it would be more realistic if our charrie's attitude were almost same as us in RL Raven and I mostly have similarity )
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02-05-2012, 03:14 PM
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I read all the posts here.. well, almost all of them, and I generally agree with each one of them.
As far as realistic RPing is concerned, I mean, come on, 11 year olds are much more concerned about the sports and matches and magazines and having fun, rather than all the settling-for-life thing. So yeah, I don't really like the relationship issues..
I have always tried to make my charrie, Ira, different from how I am in RL. I mean, isn't that the fun of Rping? In RL, I'm very shy, I can't seem to talk freely to other people, and am not comfortable expressing what I feel... But Ira isn't like that. I use Ira as a medium to bring out my other side, I mean, there are some things that I never thought of or never dared to do in RL, but Ira does it freely.
So in a way, Ira has definitely helped me to bring out that chirpy, happy-go-lucky girl inside me.. So Ira and me in RL are completely different to each other!
*can't remember what I used to do the whole day when I was 11 myself!*
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02-05-2012, 03:41 PM
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| Firecrab
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To me, realistic RPing is usually just doing what any normal student would do on a day-to-day basis. All the students in the books were totally normal; there wasn't sombody who sang all day, had extra powers, etc. Also, something that is well taken care of here: the amount of Werewolves/Animagus/Metamorphmagus. Not everybody in the wizarding world can change their appearance without assistance from a wand. Not everybody can be an Animagus - especially not first-years.
Which brings me to my next point: first-years. I don't like that first-years have full-on relationships. I know that eleven-year-olds usually have just a few little crushes. They blush when their crush speaks to them, things like that. Nobody ever thought about kissing when they were eleven, except for maybe a very awkward peck on the cheek. I know that one character (I won't name names) had about three or four girlfriends in his first year. To me, that is very unrealistic RPing.
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02-05-2012, 04:42 PM
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The relationship thing has always been a question here. I've played 2 firsties, my first one Liz was very too herself, and didn't open up really, barely even to her best friend Rian who turned out to be a far off cousin. She didn't even consider boys until she was like 15 or 16. Each guy she thought as a friend that she met and nothing more.
But JD from the start was a ladies man, he flirted and knew that the girls liked that. When he was asked to be a boyfriend to someone he jumped at it right away, but remained a flirt But then he was hurt of course, and this went on every term from there on. He'd find a girl and lose her within a few months.
I agree with the fact that 11 year olds even up til 14 and even sometimes 15 don't really understand what a relationship is. JD didn't he just thought it was fun to be able to say he had a "girlfriend".
TJ was more of the person who thought boyfriends just got in the way, she started flirting a bit in her 5th year but that was more on a dare to get back at the guy for teasing her. It wasn't until the holidays before her 7th year she'd considered having a boyfriend and not til at the end of her 7th year that she actually had a "real" boyfriend.
Now Isaac is a little different and that's where I said above "sometimes 15 that they don't really understand what a relationship is." He's finding what love really is, he just turned 16, and is finding that love doesn't nessarily mean just a feeling, he has a girlfriend that has some problems and he's finding that the problems don't matter, he's more concerned about her and how to help and look past those problems.
I have 3 children (2 girls - 14 1/2 and 11 and a boy 13), and am watching as they grow considering boyfriends and girlfriends. My 11 year old scoffs if you ask if she has a boyfriend and rolls her eyes when my older daughter teases her about a boy looking at her she yells no and gets irritated. My 13 year old honestly could care less about girls at the moment.
And my oldest daughter at 14 1/2 has no clue even yet. She has a new "boyfriend" every week it appears and when I ask if she's held hands or kissed him. She shrugs and says I held hands today but not yesterday, but ewwww for kissing. I ask her why she has a boyfriend and she says because he asked me to be and he's nice. That's what most kids this age think of bf's and gf's. I'm not saying all, like my charrie Isaac above has a bit of a difference. But he's also had to grow up faster, especially if your charrie is an only child or the oldest of bunch of siblings.
That's just my 2 5 cents
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02-05-2012, 08:32 PM
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| Firecrab
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Yes, it is silly for 11 year olds to have any serious romance. This is NOT one of those unrealistic drama shows, this is Harry Potter. I would keep romance at bay untill at least the fifth year. Though there could be crushes before then.
I don't think it is in the slightest unrealistic for there to be werewolves or seers. I think they should be rare, but they should EXIST. Why would any sane headmaster keep divination a subject if true seers were as rare as purple cows?
I am opposed to vampires being in the RP at all, because in the books it is mentioned that wizards are not allowed to teach any other race their magic. This means vampires. Werewolves are different, because they are humans all the time except once a month.
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02-06-2012, 12:15 PM
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Just asking bytheway
Is it realistic if a fresh-graduate student got married?
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02-06-2012, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by alchemist_18 Just asking bytheway
Is it realistic if a fresh-graduate student got married? After? I think so, as that happens alot in real life. Once you are in age, then you can marry. Or at least that's how the rules are for muggles, and there are no indications of it not being there.
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04-21-2012, 04:07 AM
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| DERP & DIMC Mackled Malaclaw
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Yo! Yo!
I just have this question. When you know something OOC, there surely have to be instances when you can assume your charrie knows it in IC too right? What I mean is, for example, your charrie haven't really witnessed a morbid conversation between teachers at the Great Hall, but you did OOC. Then is it too awful that you make you charrie know it too? Like assume that she heard it via gossip? We, after all are trying to make this realistic as we can, so gossip could take a place in this, yes?
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Originally Posted by tomewitch Yo! Yo!
I just have this question. When you know something OOC, there surely have to be instances when you can assume your charrie knows it in IC too right? What I mean is, for example, your charrie haven't really witnessed a morbid conversation between teachers at the Great Hall, but you did OOC. Then is it too awful that you make you charrie know it too? Like assume that she heard it via gossip? We, after all are trying to make this realistic as we can, so gossip could take a place in this, yes? you mean like when Althea and Eddie had drama at Staff Table, right?
IMHO, we can know it by IC, but not too much as we know it OOC. For example, We know that Althea and Eddie had an argument in Staff table, we didn't know what happen to them and what things that make them had argument
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04-21-2012, 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by tomewitch Yo! Yo!
I just have this question. When you know something OOC, there surely have to be instances when you can assume your charrie knows it in IC too right? What I mean is, for example, your charrie haven't really witnessed a morbid conversation between teachers at the Great Hall, but you did OOC. Then is it too awful that you make you charrie know it too? Like assume that she heard it via gossip? We, after all are trying to make this realistic as we can, so gossip could take a place in this, yes? I think it really depends. Sometimes people make it clear in their posts that there is nobody else around, or that they used a muffling/silencing spell or something. I think the best thing to do is ALWAYS to ask the RPers in question.
Basically, if there wasn't anyone around to hear it, it couldn't be gossiped about, could it?
Some RPers have been known to pop their charrie in the general vicinity of things especially to overhear, so that is another avenue.
edit: as for the staff table thing. lol. sure could have heard about it, there were plenty who did overhear it, but if your charrie wasn't at the staff table they might have seen, but not heard. Otherwise they'd have to find out what happened (imperfectly lol) from someone who was there to listen in.
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04-21-2012, 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by alchemist_18 you mean like when Althea and Eddie had drama at Staff Table, right?
IMHO, we can know it by IC, but not too much as we know it OOC. For example, We know that Althea and Eddie had an argument in Staff table, we didn't know what happen to them and what things that make them had argument Haha. That was just an example.
Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. Exactly, absolutely yes. Quote:
Originally Posted by Tegz I think it really depends. Sometimes people make it clear in their posts that there is nobody else around, or that they used a muffling/silencing spell or something. I think the best thing to do is ALWAYS to ask the RPers in question.
Basically, if there wasn't anyone around to hear it, it couldn't be gossiped about, could it?
Some RPers have been known to pop their charrie in the general vicinity of things especially to overhear, so that is another avenue.
edit: as for the staff table thing. lol. sure could have heard about it, there were plenty who did overhear it, but if your charrie wasn't at the staff table they might have seen, but not heard. Otherwise they'd have to find out what happened (imperfectly lol) from someone who was there to listen in. Given that example with Thea and Eddie, is it really then necessary to ask the RPers? What if they don't mention anything about the people around in their posts? Can't we just assume that there are other people around? Well..exception to some places such as the cupboard and RoR, which you can call private. But..what if the RP happens in the Great Hall or the Courtyard?
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04-21-2012, 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by tomewitch Haha. That was just an example.
Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. Exactly, absolutely yes.
Given that example with Thea and Eddie, is it really then necessary to ask the RPers? What if they don't mention anything about the people around in their posts? Can't we just assume that there are other people around? Well..exception to some places such as the cupboard and RoR, which you can call private. But..what if the RP happens in the Great Hall or the Courtyard? no, because there WERE people there. We did make it clear that they couldn't be HEARD from the other tables, but there were people there.
Take your cue from what is in their post. If someone says 'she whispered so nobody else could hear' or 'nobody else was around' or anything like that, then you should assume that you reading it ooc remains ooc. Otherwise your best bet is, like I said, to ask the RPers, or to post your character there and hearing something (if its possible for them to hear something).
Here's an example, say you've got two charries in flourish and blotts and they kiss... but they've specifically said that they're behind some bookshelves and there is NOT anyone nearby/in view, then if you said your charrie saw them or heard about it, it would be ooc because only those two characters know. However, if you posted your charrie innocently browsing the shelves and then OMG SEE SOMETHING!OMG!MY EYES THEY BURN (lol, thats just how West would react, I dunno how yours would) then it becomes IC knowledge. Likewise if someone ELSE sees, and your charrie legitimately hears gossip, in character, then you can count it as known.
In real life people aren't all knowing, and don't have the opportunity to see what is going on everywhere at once, so its something to keep in mind here too.
In short, yes, gossip can be heard, but it should happen IC and not through ooc means.
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04-21-2012, 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Tegz no, because there WERE people there. We did make it clear that they couldn't be HEARD from the other tables, but there were people there.
Take your cue from what is in their post. If someone says 'she whispered so nobody else could hear' or 'nobody else was around' or anything like that, then you should assume that you reading it ooc remains ooc. Otherwise your best bet is, like I said, to ask the RPers, or to post your character there and hearing something (if its possible for them to hear something).
Here's an example, say you've got two charries in flourish and blotts and they kiss... but they've specifically said that they're behind some bookshelves and there is NOT anyone nearby/in view, then if you said your charrie saw them or heard about it, it would be ooc because only those two characters know. However, if you posted your charrie innocently browsing the shelves and then OMG SEE SOMETHING!OMG!MY EYES THEY BURN (lol, thats just how West would react, I dunno how yours would) then it becomes IC knowledge. Likewise if someone ELSE sees, and your charrie legitimately hears gossip, in character, then you can count it as known.
In real life people aren't all knowing, and don't have the opportunity to see what is going on everywhere at once, so its something to keep in mind here too.
In short, yes, gossip can be heard, but it should happen IC and not through ooc means. Oh, Tegz this is why I lufffff youuuu much! Hah. Okay then, I would keep that in mind. I was just a bit confused as to how RP happenings should be spread about both OOC and IC. And I think Beezus would say that too. >_____< She and West should be friends!
To put it simply. Gossip may exist but only to a limit, yes?
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Originally Posted by tomewitch Oh, Tegz this is why I lufffff youuuu much! Hah. Okay then, I would keep that in mind. I was just a bit confused as to how RP happenings should be spread about both OOC and IC. And I think Beezus would say that too. >_____< She and West should be friends!
To put it simply. Gossip may exist but only to a limit, yes? XD I'm glad to help.
Absolutely right. To a limit. If in doubt, ask people, most of the time other RPers are willing to lend an ear and help figure stuff out, especially when there might be an ooc/ic blur.
Also, thats why aparecium is good, cos it won't end up in there if it hasn't been witnessed somehow XD
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04-21-2012, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Tegz XD I'm glad to help.
Absolutely right. To a limit. If in doubt, ask people, most of the time other RPers are willing to lend an ear and help figure stuff out, especially when there might be an ooc/ic blur.
Also, thats why aparecium is good, cos it won't end up in there if it hasn't been witnessed somehow XD Okay. Will do. *nods*
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