Originally Posted by MissRastaban

The films have diverged uncessarily from the books since about PoA, so it's hard to see why they should improve now. JKR isn't going to help either - she only speaks up occasionally if she thinks an omission will cause trouble later. That said, she apparently insisted that Grawp not be cut, Heavens knows why. She keeps quiet over the unimaginative additions, which is a shame. Regardless of what might be in her contract, her influence over public opinion while she was writing, was such that no exec would have ignored her if she did make her disagreement public. I say exec, because I feel that Kloves, while I dislike him, is a puppet in the hands of the studio execs who think that the hero should end up with the girl and try to downplay the 'other' sidekick and turn him into a jibbering idiot. Of course a witty, brave and sarcastic best friend of the hero wasn't at all sucessful in the first three Star Wars films.

Originally Posted by eaglemei01

and who is this???

Originally Posted by Antwone Thomas

I believe that high five took place between Emma and Dan. I think they were OOC at that point.

Oops johnlocke06 beat me to it.



I don't see how Kloves is messing it up by adding a dance scene.

I think the reason Half Blood Prince is my favorite Harry Potter movie is because it did not try to copy the book chapter-by-chapter, which is what the first two movies did and they tended to drag and get boring.

In Deathly Hallows there is a lot of traveling and pondering which will not translate to film very well. Books are very passive in the way we experience them but movies are very proactive. To have Harry and Hermione sit sulking about the coming doom would be quite boring to watch and as a screenwriter Kloves has added a scene which will add spice and a little joy, because Harry and Hermione still have each other. While we're on the subject of adding/altering scenes, did you notice in the behind-the-scenes footage how they were being chased in the forest by what seems to be Death Eaters? Now I'm sure some of those who prefer movies to be tied down to their source material, plot-point by plot-point, would say this never happened or is uncanon. As I've argued before about movies being very proactive and visual, a scene like this probably breaks up the monotony of the trio just trekking through the woods for months. That or it could be an extension of the Snatcher scene.

I'm not to sure about your arguments against Kloves and the way he treats Ron. I think I would agree that he makes him look like a jerk in the first few movies but that's kind of what Ron is because he is a guy of heart rather than of intellect or valor. Plus, when you're younger to tend to be mean to those you like. Also, what about the last scene in Philospher's Stone! That was a noble thing for Ron to do!

In the end JK Rowling, though she really has no power within the studio system, has signed off on Kloves and I've gotten used to him and the film medium. We have to remember that these movies are a separate medium from the novels and they are told in separate ways!

Oh and I also do agree that Kloves did a little bit of Harry/Hermoine shipping in the first four films (until he took a break from Potter in Phoenix).

WHen you say "canon" moments in film what do you mean by that exactly. I'm just wondering. When you say canon do you mean the way they happened in the book or the way the felt in the book?



I think their intent was right but the outcome was a little "eh..." in that new scene.