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ShiningStar 04-05-2011 01:21 AM

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Oh, I loved the desks!
I liked the desks too, but if you think about it, in a film which has grown up, that's kind of juvenile. It's like Peter Pettigrew strangling himself [which happened in the seventh book but was cut from the film]. It's great in the book, but really hard on film. Those things don't translate as well when the films are growing up.
Peter Pettigrew strangling himself was juvenile?! I TOTALLY disagree with that! In fact I gotta say, the way they ended up handling that particular scene in Part I was way more juvenile looking and I'm sorry is one scene I think they botched ( but not just because of what they did with Wormtail).

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How did the actors go into the scene, growing into themselves 15 years later?
They look good. It's subtle. It's going to be very interesting to see the response, since inevitably we know it's Dan, Rupert and Emma, and we've just seen them as 17-year-olds. Initially we went a little further [with the effects], and then we pulled it back. Sometimes if you try too hard you're really aware of the work. You won't have huge wrinkles, obviously there's a difference, but you still resemble yourself.
15 years later? Is the movie changing the time frame a bit? It's supposed to be 19 years later.

I will say I'm thrilled they went back and tweaked the makeup a little bit. I thought Bonnie and Emma looked great in the initial photos released of them shooting at the train station but Rupert and Dan looked like they were supposed to be in their late 40's -50's rather than mid 30's.
I'm just sad about the length of the epilogue.

r+h4ever1 04-05-2011 01:55 AM

I'm nervous about Part II. It's the shortest of all of the films, and 3/4 of it is said to take place in Hogwarts. I feel like Gringotts will be hurried, and with some spoilers I've heard, I'm worried about the changes they've made.

I know he probably didn't mean to be insulting, but the "juvenile" comment didn't sit well with me. If anything, leaving out a pretty brutal death the way they did was the more "juvenile" decision, in my opinion. Sometimes they have to learn to trust the material.

Shannon :hello:

r+h4ever1 04-05-2011 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ladycplum (Post 10254655)
There's nothing anyone involved with this film can say to placate the fact that one of the most important moments in the entire seven years of Harry Potter has been cut from the movie. My antipathy towards Kloves, Barron, Heyman...it just knows no bounds.

Amen.

Fastbak 04-05-2011 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ladycplum
There's nothing anyone involved with this film can say to placate the fact that one of the most important moments in the entire seven years of Harry Potter has been cut from the movie. My antipathy towards Kloves, Barron, Heyman...it just knows no bounds.
Which would be.....?

Seriously what are you referring to?

spiral_star 04-05-2011 04:51 AM

This interview was very well said actually. I'm happy with what they have done with harry potter. Film critics are different from book critics so let's try not to merge these two into one. Books are of course the in-dept part of everything since you actually take -in and visualize the author's writing and description. Films are what captivates us. I mean, Harry potter has been with us 10 years now and it has been by far the best movie for me. Well, some parts they should have given justice but HP films are really nice when it comes to effects and magical ideas. Really, thumbs up for that!

the downside is, I AM A BIG FAN OF SNAPE. I wouldn't complain if the movie is 20 minutes short as long as SNAPE'S childhood should be given justice. I will seal my lips and be happy. Do him justice now. Dumbledore's funeral at film 6 was not that great.

sidnandragin 04-05-2011 05:45 AM

"There's the scene from the first half of the film of Hermione and Harry dancing in the tent, and it's so rare to see any scenes added in the Harry Potter movies, but people loved it. Is there anything like that coming in the second half?"

Someone should be shot for asking this question. It was a scene that we didnt need. It made me laugh at how ridiculous it was. Yates Stinks. thank goodness they arent bringing any other scenes like that btw the two. What people loved it?

Taiya89 04-05-2011 09:18 AM

How are the desks and Peter strangling himself juvenile? JK wrote them in there for a reason, therefore they are not juvenile!

Patronus Charm 04-05-2011 12:45 PM

I've never been able to figure out what that means.
It's part of Voldemort's soul.

okay, who asked that? My 12 year old knew what it was!!!

onar 04-05-2011 03:18 PM

Um...the statues did come to life in the book....hello????? Actually it was the armours but still...same thing...
Anyway...I believe that having a closure with Wormtail would be nice, given there are people who haven't read the books and only watch the movies, but still it's not so important...I just hope they won't leave any Snape stuff out...it's the best part of the second part of the book...
-Angie-

Fastbak 04-05-2011 04:14 PM

According to people who've been to the test screening, "The Prince's Tale" was the best scene in the movie and that Alan Rickman was great, so I'm not worried about that part.

harry potter freak 04-05-2011 07:41 PM

Great interview! Can't wait for part 2!:papple:

Nia 04-05-2011 08:16 PM

I've read quite detailed reports from people who saw the test screening and i feel more anxious and excited than EVER! I didn't think it could be possible.

I was a little worried about the Prince's Tale because that's one of the most moving moments in the entire series... it's such an important part of the story and it just has to be done properly. According to the reports there's no need to worry about that! It sounds absolutely amazing and i will definitely cry like a baby in that scene...

I understand what David Heyman meant when he talked about cutting the desk thing... i get the point. It works in the book but not in a film. But i personally don't understand how Pettigrew strangling himself is juvenile. I just don't get it. But to be quite honest, it doens't really bother me. If they have to change something i'd rather they change the Pettigrew thing and not the Prince's Tale for example. Overall (according to the reports) the film seems amazing and even all the little details we've talked about (like the best lines for example) seem to be there.

I am so freaking excited. But i must say... where is the bloody trailer?? I was hoping to see it with Red Riding Hood but it didn't happen. Then i hoped to see it with Sucker Punch... but no. Come on WB!

Slytherin's Talon 04-05-2011 08:57 PM

What all this about desks? I don't really remember that part,therefore I don't see how important it could be. Was that the part where she asks the students to help?

Anyway,I agree about Wormtail. His death was flimsy and anti-climatic in the book. I was thinking he'd play a important part. After all,Harry ssaved his life in POA,and Dumbledore said that Voldemort wouldn't be pleased by this. So I hope his scene in the movie will be great.

That doesn't mean I agree about everything thet did. The part about Voldemort and Harry falling off a cliff,for example.

A few people said that the best part of the series was cut out. What scene was that? I'm guessing you mean something in the fifth one,right?

ladycplum 04-06-2011 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by sidnandragin (Post 10255403)
"there's the scene from the first half of the film of hermione and harry dancing in the tent, and it's so rare to see any scenes added in the harry potter movies, but people loved it. Is there anything like that coming in the second half?"

someone should be shot for asking this question. It was a scene that we didnt need. It made me laugh at how ridiculous it was. Yates stinks. Thank goodness they arent bringing any other scenes like that btw the two. What people loved it?

thank you, amen, and preach on!

R-Luchy~W*7*PG~ 04-06-2011 07:20 AM

Nice interview..

Weasley1903 04-06-2011 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ladycplum (Post 10254655)
There's nothing anyone involved with this film can say to placate the fact that one of the most important moments in the entire seven years of Harry Potter has been cut from the movie. My antipathy towards Kloves, Barron, Heyman...it just knows no bounds.


Yeah, mine too. Towards Heyman, Kloves and especially Yates!
There were so many important key scenes that has been cut from the movies. OOtP and the HBP were so far the worst Harry Potter movies in the series. I mean, they couldn't have ruined those two more. I wish Alfonso Cuarón directed the whole serie...

ladycplum 04-06-2011 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Weasley1903 (Post 10256915)
Yeah, mine too. Towards Heyman, Kloves and especially Yates!
There were so many important key scenes that has been cut from the movies. OOtP and the HBP were so far the worst Harry Potter movies in the series. I mean, they couldn't have ruined those two more. I wish Alfonso Cuarón directed the whole serie...

Well Chris I think was the best choice to ease the cast and everyone into the process, he was known for making family films, and there were tons of children on set, so I think he was the one to sort of lead the way. I was honestly not fond of POA, I felt there were some decent plot points that were also left out, especially A LOT of the backstory of the Marauders. (And I seriously wished we would've seen Snape completely lose it over Sirius's escape!) GOF was a step up, but the last three films have left me utterly disappointed, especially OOTP.

ladysaraii 04-07-2011 05:28 PM

I hate that they called the desks and Pettigrew's death juvenile. I really think that underscores the importance of those moments.

The charge to me was a light hearted moment in a situation fraught with terror and tradegy (when it happened in the book, hadn't Fred just died? Forgive me if I'm wrong)

Now due to the pacing of the film, it might not be necessarily, but for the book, it gives the reader a brief respite from the pain. I'm not saying it needs to be in the film, but not for the reason he gave

And Pettigrew, we all know the importance of that. i was rather peeved they didn't include that.

ladycplum 04-08-2011 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ladysaraii (Post 10258662)
I hate that they called the desks and Pettigrew's death juvenile. I really think that underscores the importance of those moments.

Now due to the pacing of the film, it might not be necessarily, but for the book, it gives the reader a brief respite from the pain. I'm not saying it needs to be in the film, but not for the reason he gave

I could not agree more. They're in a battle for their lives, anything and everything that can be used as a weapon should be used as a weapon. And a master of Transfiguration should know that! And you're right, you need a break, however small, from the incredible dark intensity going on around you.


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