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J.K. Rowling discusses Grindewald's sociopathic nature, more in 'Fantastic Beasts' 2
J.K. Rowling delved into the joys and challenges in writing her latest movie script, Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald, in a new set of interviews released by Warner Bros.
The Harry Potter also chatted about the sociopathic character of Grindelwald himself - the ruthless killer who manipulated so many to fight for his cause, her joy and decision to bring the story to Paris (and worldwide in future installments). and her in-depth discussion with Jude Law about everything and anything she knew about the character of Albus Dumbledore. All that and more (with a transcript provided by SnitchSeeker) can be found below.
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J.K. Rowling: What has been phenomenally enjoyable, has also been the biggest challenge, which is that - in contrast to the first movie, which was a relatively straightforward narrative (although a lot was hidden), this is a complex story. So that was simultaneously very challenging to write and enormously satisfying to write. I do really enjoy a challenge. It was finding the structure to make sense of all these different strands, so that people understood when they hit our climactic scene, what was at stake, and why characters were reacting as they were reacting to Grindelwald.
You've also got this thread running through the movie, which is: Who is Credence?
The Crimes of Grindelwald have historically been crimes of violence and terror. However, as we meet him in this movie - we do see him kill, again - we see him kill lightly, cold-bloodedly. But we also see his immense seductive power.
And it should be shocking - I wrote it and it was shocking to me - he's a sociopath. We watch him corrupt an innocent, and we see his immense, duplicitous gift of speech, in the final scene where we really see the danger of the man.
The appeal of moving on from the UK is two-fold. Firstly, for the sheer sensory pleasure of looking at wizards in different cities and habitats. It's so visually interesting to mix up the architecture and the flora and fauna of different of different continents. So, yes, there are definitely different places I would like to go. It's very freeing not to be stuck at a school. So in a very prosaic level, because it's so much fun to press into to different places, and we've got witches and wizards there.
But, also, it really serves our plot. With the Potter movies, one had the sense of Voldemort's threat to the whole wizarding world, you never saw how it was affecting people and the rest of the world. Well, this time, I wanted to look at a world war, a world uprising, and actually go see that. Not just stay with one character in the UK and see what's happening.
You want to do new things, you want to do it differently.
Just looking at movie two, moving to a new city where I felt there would be a much more fluid relationship the magic and the mundane. In the 1920s, it had to be Paris - of course it had to be Paris! Paris was genuinely, at that time, in reality, an place where you had a far more bohemian society. You have people of varying backgrounds going into Paris and living this more bohemian life. The artistic community was far more diverse in every sense, than you would've met in other cities in the 1920s. So it felt perfect to go here.
The Dumbledore we meet here is clever, he's gifted, and he's very mysterious. No one really understands why this man is a school teacher. He appeared to be born to be the preeminent in the wizarding world, he appeared to be head of the International Confederation, to embrace a role that would make him part of wizaridng history. But he disappeared to this school in Scotland and stayed there. Why?
In this story, particularly, the battle the light and dark is a very interesting way of phrasing of what's going on in this movie, because it is precisely our human drive to simplify and divide everyone into black hats and white hats. That has resulted in a huge destabilization in the wizarding world.
Grindelwald inspires an almost cult-like devotion in his followers. It's very easy, as an outsider, to say 'bad'. We have a tendency to simplify; if we look at what he's saying and analyze it, it does fall apart. However, if you're not paying a lot of attention to the substance, and the inherent contradictions in what he's saying, it sounds very seductive, very plausible, and can persuade people that you or I might consider good people.
When I met Jude [Law], we had this very intense meeting, just the two of us, where I basically told him everything about Dumbledore that I've ever known, but not told anyone else - literally, I've never told anyone some of the things I told Jude. He took notes and asked questions, and yeah, it was great. He's done an amazing job. I really like his performance, I think it's going to surprise people. There's a lot more to go for his character, so I think people will be rightly hungry for more.
Warner Bros. Pictures’ “Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald” is the second of five all new adventures in J.K. Rowling’s Wizarding World™.
At the end of the first film, the powerful Dark wizard Gellert Grindelwald (Johnny Depp) was captured by MACUSA (Magical Congress of the United States of America), with the help of Newt Scamander (Eddie Redmayne). But, making good on his threat, Grindelwald escaped custody and has set about gathering followers, most unsuspecting of his true agenda: to raise pure-blood wizards up to rule over all non-magical beings.
In an effort to thwart Grindelwald’s plans, Albus Dumbledore (Jude Law) enlists his former student Newt Scamander, who agrees to help, unaware of the dangers that lie ahead. Lines are drawn as love and loyalty are tested, even among the truest friends and family, in an increasingly divided wizarding world.
The film features an ensemble cast led by Eddie Redmayne, Katherine Waterston, Dan Fogler, Alison Sudol, Ezra Miller, Zoë Kravitz, Callum Turner, Claudia Kim, William Nadylam, Kevin Guthrie, Carmen Ejogo, Poppy Corby-Tuech, with Jude Law and Johnny Depp.
“Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald” is directed by David Yates, from a screenplay by J.K. Rowling. The film is produced by David Heyman, J.K. Rowling, Steve Kloves and Lionel Wigram. Tim Lewis, Neil Blair, Rick Senat and Danny Cohen serve as executive producers.
The film reunites the behind-the-scenes creative team from the first “Fantastic Beasts” film, including Oscar-winning director of photography Philippe Rousselot (“A River Runs Through It”), three-time Oscar-winning production designer Stuart Craig (“The English Patient,” “Dangerous Liaisons,” “Gandhi,” the “Harry Potter” films), four-time Oscar-winning costume designer Colleen Atwood (“Chicago,” “Memoirs of a Geisha,” “Alice in Wonderland,” “Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them”), and Yates’ longtime editor Mark Day (the last four “Harry Potter” films). The music is by eight-time Oscar nominee James Newton Howard (“Defiance,” “Michael Clayton,” “The Hunger Games” films).
Slated for release on November 16, 2018, the film will be distributed worldwide in 2D and 3D in select theatres and IMAX by Warner Bros. Pictures.
This film is rated PG-13 for some sequences of fantasy action.