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J.K.Rowling & W.B. file full Harry Potter Lexicon injunction request In a continuation of the J.K.Rowling & W.B. vs RDR Books case, the former have now filed the full injunction request against the publishing company to stop the publication of a commercial printed version of the Harry Potter Lexicon. The document itself is about 1,100 pages long; RDR have 3 weeks in which to reply. The complaints start with; Quote:
The document also contains pieces of evidence, including a declaration by Jo. Quote:
Other declarations included come from; Jeremy N. Williams (Senior Vice President and Deputy General Counsel, Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc.), Jeri Johnson (Senior Tutor / Academic Dean of, and Ashby Fellow and Lecturer in English, at Exeter College, University of Oxford), Suzanne Murphy (Vice President, Publisher, Trade Publishing and Marketing, Scholastic, Inc.), Dale Cendali (partner at O'Melveny & Myers LLP law firm), Cheryl Klein (Senior Editor and Continuity Editor on Harry Potter for Scholastic, Inc.), Neil Blair (Attorney and Junior Partner, Christopher Little Literary Agency), William Landes (Clifton R. Musser Professor of Law and Economics at the University of Chicago Law School), Myron J. Heifgott (Consultant in survey research), Sarah Odedina (Children's List Publisher, Bloomsbury Publishing, PLC), Diana Birchall (Story Analyst for Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc.), Melanie Bradley (counsel at O'Melveny & Myers LLP) and Emily Blumsack (Associate, O'Melveny & Myers LLP). Past articles on this story can be found at the links below; J.K. Rowling files lawsuit J.K. Rowling’s statement RDR Publisher’s statement The Lexicon’s statement Judge issues restraining order Stanford Law School defends RDR Books Source: The Leaky Cauldron |
WOW... I mean WOW |
I agree with J.K, they can't publish it! I won't buy it anyway :P Hope Jo's going to do a encyklopedia soon! :) |
Yikes this is complicated and borderline nasty. I do agree almost wholeheartedly with Jo; however, I don't believe that Vander Ark and the Lexicon intended to release a published version for their personal gain. But she and her representation could be very stingy if they chose to be; it's quite lucky for us and generous of them to allow fan sites like ours and many others to function, considering so much copyrighted info is referenced on them, and most notably, FREE OF CHARGE! I also didn't know that Jo intended to write her own encyclopedia (which would be awesome; maybe she'd add stuff!). I'd like to hear Vander Ark's side of the story, but I do support Jo in all of this. A thousand pages?! |
I mostly agree with Jo, but this quote of hers is flat out untrue: Quote:
I would have liked to have seen the Lexicon go to print. Too bad. |
I agree with her and I woulden't even buy the book. It's illegal and she has every right to say no. It's her private work. |
i agree with her they cant publish that. |
I actually agree with Jo. I say let the Fanfic stay on Lexicon...just don't print it! I really want an encyclopedia though... |
I am not surprised that there is yet another person/company trying to make money off of what Jo has worked so hard on for so many years. HP is so popular and its Jo's and no one elses. So hands off. |
I understand both sides but in the end, I have to go with JK since she has a right to protect her own work. It's weird to me how fans sometimes think they own the characters, etc when really we don't. |
wow. Who thought a story she began so many years ago would bring her millions of dollars, tons of fans, and the need to file a law suit? I'm glad she's fighting for her rights, but someone should remind Jo that imitation is the purest form of flattery! |
To the person above who said Jo 'might' do the encyclopaedia? She said in one of the TLC podcasts that she will definitely do it, so it's no longer an if scenario. Still, this is just getting mad, this entire lawsuit, and I am definitely on Jo's side here. |
I personally agree with Jo |
It's wrong I tell you ... it's so wrong ... *cries* Technically it is theft of intellectual property because looking at it from the most basic pov you have to admit, an encyclopedia doesn't 'create' or 'reveal' anything new it just states old facts that come from the books which are a copyrighted work. Try doing it with any other book and without the author's permission and you'd probably get sued ... like an Encyclopedia of Seuss or Tolkien these things require authorial consent ... or whoever owns the copyright. Can't they patiently wait for Jo to die and then fifty years after? Or is it more ... *ponders* I don't think copyright should be extended too much past the fifty years after the death of the author ... that's just greedy and I'm writing a sequel to Romeo and Juliet I don't need legal problems from the Shakespeares ... If it was a book about what they thought about the Potter universe (like all those other unathorized books Jo has let slide) then it would be okay, but they're not adding anything or creating anything just compiling the author's stuff ... which while nice and polite is wrong. It's like if Fanfic writers started saying they'd publish their works for money ... It's theft. We didn't create Harry Potter ... we can't steal her ideas ... (though I think we'd have more ground to stand on based on original invention and plots ...) but it's still Jo's universe and thats unarguable ... sure she didn't invent phoenixes (I did actually I should sue) but truth is she did invent Fawkes and gave him all the qualities he has and blah blah blah thus making a new character ... which is to say nothing of Flying Ford Anglias, and danglias ... like those flying brains ... :eek: In conclusion, *everyone is sleeping now* (putting you all to sleep was my good deed for the Why the very notion of anyone editing one of my works ... :gasp: appalling ... :rolleyes: ironically enough I always reference the Lexicon ... :P but its still wrong ... stealing is stealing even if its just thoughts ... perhaps the worst theft of all. |
Woah, this is getting insane. |
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Wow, that last paragraph (I've only just read Jo's declaration...busy bee that I am!) actually brought tears to my eyes. I imagine this has left her pretty dis-illusioned with fans, not to mention it's got to be very upsetting. |
the sad thing is jo used the lexicon and spoke about it. and gave him website hits and he goes and does this! Jo has said she will wrote her own book give the woman a break she will do it! and she shouldnt have to worry abou her fandom in this way! |
Rowling has enough technical specs to drown RDR and Lexicon on copyright infringement but she really needs to stop this 'I had the idea first' business. As a writer, she should know that ideas CANNOT be copyrighted. Had this been for anything else original (not of HP origin), it would be first person to the finish lin wins gets the credit. She had the idea to make the encyclopedia first. Super but it doesn't give her eminent domain over it because of that and no one else can touch it. What does give her rights over it is the fact that it's her work she's cataloguing and putting into an encyclopedia. That does give her the right to stop others from doing the same because she hold the copyright for the information going into the book itself. Ideas hold no water in court. A very famous trial that happened fairly recently solidified that precident, Dan Brown and his DaVinci Code versus the writers of Holy Blood, Holy Grail. Ideas (not to mention book titles) cannot be copyrighted and cannot belong solely to one person. That's where ethics and writing comes in. Someone with a conscience wouldn't steal someone else's idea but, sad to say, not everyone has one of those. And it's 70 years after the person's death that a copyright holds on a written piece of work. |
I don't think the fact she planned to write one is the point; more that the material being used is hers. Scooping her, though not illegal, is rude. Especially since it's being done by someone who was supposed to be one of her biggest fans. She has to vent her disappointment, even if that particular bit doesn't hold up in court. What I found most appalling was this; Quote:
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i agree with you emma! 100% i really do. he comes accross as well just being selfish and arogant! this is jo's creation and she owns it! i really just feel for Jo so much! |
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