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07-13-2004, 06:37 PM
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Goblet of Fire and Journalist's Reputations - Summary:
One reported has explained how some films, including Harry Potter four, could tarnish the reputations of journalists. Article: Goblet of Fire and Journalist's Reputations Reporters are being picked on left and right in summer movies, according to Michigan columnist Michael S. Miller.
From Spider-Man 2's sensationalistic editor J. Jonah Jameson to Anchorman's ridiculously sexist Ron Burgandy, he says it'll only get worse when Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire comes out next year, featuring the slimy, quote-molding Rita Skeeter. Quote: ...reporters everywhere should protest the portrayal of dishonest journalists. Where's our lobbying group? Where's our Hollywood influence? Sure, Carrie Bradshaw and Ray Barrone are successful and wealthy columnists on their television shows, but that's not reality, that's science fiction.
And it's only going to get worse when the next Harry Potter movie, Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, debuts in summer 2006. That story's journalist, Rita Skeeter, is a conniving, duplicitous, win-at-all-costs stinker. She'd make a good trial lawyer. We should point out that the casting of Rita Skeeter is still anxiously anticipated, and the release date for Goblet of Fire has not been officially annouced. Last we heard, it was slated for late 2005.
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07-13-2004, 07:42 PM
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| Streeler
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I hope it cums out in 2005, or else I mite die from the wait. :sorcerer:
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07-13-2004, 07:47 PM
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I actually think the reporter who wrote the article hasn't researched that many films to be honest. There are numerous other films that show the better side of reporter, i.e. The Pelican Brief, I Love Trouble, and even Superman.
What his/her problem is is that they named big budget current films and it bugs them that kids don't believe all reporters are honest. Well that, I'm afraid, just isn't ever going to be true.
Rita wouldn't have been as funny had she been as honest as Denzel in the Pelican Brief. I personally feel that J.K. showed the true side of reporting, the story, it's all they want because it's all their job requires. It just so happens that HP is a worldwide hit and they're scared their reps resemble that of Rita so much that it scares most of them.
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07-13-2004, 07:51 PM
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Marcella Riddle Graduated | Kaplinski Rival Sorting Hat Machine Quote: Originally posted by elf_dobby@Jul 13 2004, 05:21 PM I actually think the reporter who wrote the article hasn't researched that many films to be honest. There are numerous other films that show the better side of reporter, i.e. The Pelican Brief, I Love Trouble, and even Superman.
What his/her problem is is that they named big budget current films and it bugs them that kids don't believe all reporters are honest. Well that, I'm afraid, just isn't ever going to be true.
Rita wouldn't have been as funny had she been as honest as Denzel in the Pelican Brief. I personally feel that J.K. showed the true side of reporting, the story, it's all they want because it's all their job requires. It just so happens that HP is a worldwide hit and they're scared their reps resemble that of Rita so much that it scares most of them. On the other hand there's "Shattered Glass" which was a true story about a dishonest journalist who fabricated stories for the New Republican magazine.
I suppose it swings both ways. I enjoyed that ^ film and I think Stephen Glass, the reporter, was a genius.
I really dont get the comparison to Rita; JK didn't write it that way to portray journo's as dishonest, she just did it for one of them to show how tabloids and government influenced papers can be biased and tainted. It's just another reflection of reality, as later saw in OotP, just how much the MoM controls the Daily Prophet and what is written in it.
I agree that other films might portray journos as bad for the sake of it or to follow the crowd or else because they believe there is no hope left in the world of journalism. I however believe there is. There's no need to discriminate all journos because of the bad tabloid ones who only do it for the money, possible fame and to have thie rname "up in lights".
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07-13-2004, 08:04 PM
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I agree completely, wasn't meaning that all are bad and report the wrong story but just saying their job is whatever their version of the story may be. Like Rita in G.o.F. she reports all that before she hears it from Harry's perspective was my point and then later reports it as he would. I think the Quick Quills was more of the bad reporting example, it changed the story to fit the audience and not the facts.
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07-13-2004, 08:10 PM
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Marcella Riddle Graduated | Kaplinski Rival Sorting Hat Machine Quote: Originally posted by elf_dobby@Jul 13 2004, 05:38 PM I agree completely, wasn't meaning that all are bad and report the wrong story but just saying their job is whatever their version of the story may be. Like Rita in G.o.F. she reports all that before she hears it from Harry's perspective was my point and then later reports it as he would. I think the Quick Quills was more of the bad reporting example, it changed the story to fit the audience and not the facts. I agree completely. Just wanted to give an example of a film which shows a bad journo where it is actual fact.
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07-13-2004, 09:24 PM
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| Puffskein
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i think its just some attention seeker...plus,there is some truth to these Journalists... some just jump to conclutions without checking the proper fax...so,movies like this is just to wake them up and say, "hello!sniff the dirt before you think it can grow potatoes!"
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07-13-2004, 09:31 PM
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| Blast-Ended Skrewt
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| Keeper of Mr Tennant's specs Quote: Originally posted by Marcella_Riddle@Jul 13 2004, 07:25 PM
I really dont get the comparison to Rita; JK didn't write it that way to portray journo's as dishonest, she just did it for one of them to show how tabloids and government influenced papers can be biased and tainted. It's just another reflection of reality, as later saw in OotP, just how much the MoM controls the Daily Prophet and what is written in it. acording to the JKR biopgraphy i am reading when JKR wrote Rita Skeeter it was because the press were hounding her her ex husband sold his story to a paper before GOF came out and the press were being terrible to her. wether Rita is based on them we will never know uinless JKR said.
But obviously this journo wanted to get there point accross and used HP and JKR to do it
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07-13-2004, 09:34 PM
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| Puffskein
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| Quote: Originally posted by Marcella_Riddle@Jul 13 2004, 06:25 PM
I really dont get the comparison to Rita; JK didn't write it that way to portray journo's as dishonest, she just did it for one of them to show how tabloids and government influenced papers can be biased and tainted. It's just another reflection of reality, as later saw in OotP, just how much the MoM controls the Daily Prophet and what is written in it.
I agree that other films might portray journos as bad for the sake of it or to follow the crowd or else because they believe there is no hope left in the world of journalism. I however believe there is. There's no need to discriminate all journos because of the bad tabloid ones who only do it for the money, possible fame and to have thie rname "up in lights". Exactly, she showed how information can kept from the general public by the government and how media is censored and used for propaganda purposes. This is used a lot, and while in the UK we now have a very liberated press that is not the case everywhere.
The Daily profit, as you said Emma, is controlled by the MoM and Rita is just a part of that, okay she is a devious and cruel woman who will go to any lengths to get her story, but it shows clearly how the Daily Profit is run. The Quibbler is independant and that is why it will print Harry's story.
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07-13-2004, 09:44 PM
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i think that's silly!
wot r the journilists like in England?-there ruthless!!!
Agreed that they do do some good when kids go missing but other times they do hound people.....
Plus HP, Spider man and other films are just that......films!!!! they not real! and people do know that!
and as Frankie and many people b4 her have said "there are two sides two every story"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lastly, JKR dosent say ALL journilists are like Rita she just mentions Rita
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07-13-2004, 10:31 PM
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| Crup
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Marcella Riddle Graduated | Kaplinski Rival Sorting Hat Machine Quote: Originally posted by tomisfit@Jul 13 2004, 07:18 PM i think that's silly!
wot r the journilists like in England?-there ruthless!!!
Agreed that they do do some good when kids go missing but other times they do hound people.....
Plus HP, Spider man and other films are just that......films!!!! they not real! and people do know that!
and as Frankie and many people b4 her have said "there are two sides two every story"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lastly, JKR dosent say ALL journilists are like Rita she just mentions Rita Not all British journalists are bad, namely only those who write for The Daily Star and The Sun.
That's really interesting Karen. She was probably realistic in the way that Journos do dig into people's private lives (remember her asking Harry about his life) but it doesn't mean all of them by an means. I think it shows more how controlled the media is in HP and, as Sophie said, how the Quibbler is completely and utterly different to that.
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07-13-2004, 10:54 PM
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| Streeler
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hmmm.... :ermsmile: I dunno... but just because a movie has bad journalists, doesn't mean that the real journalists are bad!!!!
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07-13-2004, 11:04 PM
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Im confussed
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07-14-2004, 01:40 AM
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I think this guy is just a disgruntled journalist who is looking to criticize anything he can.
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07-14-2004, 01:46 AM
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This reporter is just trying to find a story. I dont see any truth in it at all, just a conicidence that some movies portray the journalist as a bad person. Its just a sterotype in hollywood, the nosy, obnoxious reporter. There are so many different types of sterotypes in movies, why did he pick on this one. I dont even count this as a real story, just a person trying to find a scandal.
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07-14-2004, 02:18 AM
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hahaha this story is ridiculous. This guy is a joke. Only little kids believe everything they see in the movies and even then they grow up. Please, if somebody is to tell me that people will go watch ancorman and think that thats how all reporters act i am going to start that people on this planet are becoming stupid. Its pathetic how they'll always find something to complain about. He wants a lobby group? This guy needs to relax and get a life.
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07-14-2004, 10:35 AM
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its fiction. rita skeeter does not exist. i'm sure most people realise that. rita was created cuz essential to the plot of the story, not because JK wanted to tarnish the reputation of journalists!!!!!
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07-14-2004, 10:43 AM
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Marcella Riddle Graduated | Kaplinski Rival Sorting Hat Machine Quote: Originally posted by harryluva@Jul 14 2004, 08:09 AM its fiction. rita skeeter does not exist. i'm sure most people realise that. rita was created cuz essential to the plot of the story, not because JK wanted to tarnish the reputation of journalists!!!!! She actually probably did want to get back at the ones who dug into her private life cruelly when she had problems with her ex-husband.
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07-14-2004, 10:57 AM
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Journalists just like political figures (or lawyers) are commonly called out upon for being without scruples. And there IS some small truth to it. Still, I really don't see any actual reporter or politician getting worked up about the press.
One of the basic creeds of journalism is keeping to the facts. And if people were to actually dig deep enough they'd find that most journalists are decent. Heck, if you do a search, you'll find that many a journalist has actually gone to jail to protect a source.
I think of Rita Skeeter as a National Enquirer type of 'creative' journalist - heavy on the creative. And I think most would agree. From what I gather, afterall, the only people who actually BELIEVE the National Enquirer stories are characters in comedy.
Or perhaps Rita is more like a certain unmentionable NY Times reporter who got sacked for using creative writing techniques in his stories...
Either way, the article, and whomever wrote it was more or less expressing an opinion. And lucky for us, that's something we all can do.
Journalists aren't going to get a bad name from any of the fictional films or books out there. Afterall, the journal business has been going strong since the days of the penny press.
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07-14-2004, 12:13 PM
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What Skeeter wrote in the Daily Prophet IS what realy appears in tabliods. If some reporter wants to identify himself with tabliod writers that's his business.
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07-14-2004, 01:06 PM
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EXACTLY. it's human nature that JK ROWLING has portrayed in Rita and because of that, everyone can relate to her character. So, there really is nothing extraordinary about it. There's no need to get touchy feely people.
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