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Originally Posted by Marauders' Map
(Post 10586718)
Your comment just kind of leaves me speechless. (I think you actually do mean to pick her apart.) The Ginny character created by Kloves and Yates WAS quiet. That wasn't Bonnie's decision. It was the scriptwriter and the director. Do you honestly think that Bonnie could have made Ginny more talkative if she wanted to? She could have just started saying lines and telling jokes that were not in the script? You may not realize this, but that ain't how it works! Kloves and Yates gave Bonnie (as Ginny) so few lines and scenes. (What she was given, she did great with -- e.g., the scream at seeing "dead" Harry). I guarantee you that if Yates wanted Bonnie to act any differently in any scene, he would have just called Cut and done another take until he got what he wanted. If anybody did not get Ginny, it was Kloves and Yates. |
I don't know why my comment would leave you speechless…you say it as if I'm accusing Bonnie of horrid things. I absolutely don't mean to pick her apart because I could go down and list the numerous things wrong with movie!Ginny and tear Bonnie apart for all of that, which
isn't her blame to take. As I've said before, I respect Bonnie very much but she wasn't the best as Ginny. I understand that the directors didn't know Ginny would be promoted to a lead role later and evolve with a brighter personality so they didn't look for those traits when she was originally cast. And I have never wanted Ginny to be recast because it wouldn't be the same without Bonnie being there. All I said was that I had a bit of a problem with her 'quiet' portrayal of Ginny at times. You're right; Yates has
a lot of the blame, which is why I can't stand the latter HP movies and I've acknowledged that many times on SS, but Bonnie has her faults too. And Kloves is not the reason why. Like a lot of fans, I used to blame Kloves too but after I read the HBP script and later on parts of the DH 1 script, I realized Kloves retained Ginny as best as he could. While her lines were watered down because he was more Harry/Hermione, book!Ginny was still there. It was all about
how the lines were delivered that made all the difference. Plus, she struggles horribly with conveying facial expressions. She’s always got this :/ face on most of the time. So maybe Yates didn't call her out for it because he didn't care the Ginny's storyline, but Bonnie could have put in more passion into her lines/expressions. I'll give you this though…Bonnie did improve a great deal in DH 2, especially the "I know line," after the kiss and when she screamed after seeing Harry’s body; however, I don't know if it was redeemable for the whole franchise…
And yes, I am very much aware of how it works so there's no need to give me such a sarcastic response like this:
"She could have just started saying lines and telling jokes that were not in the script? You may not realize this, but that ain't how it works!" Quote:
Originally Posted by KAG
(Post 10587420)
^ How was she going to? Her lines and scenes she got didn't let her show that side of Ginny....like AT ALL.
Can you blame her for saying that? With the screentime and lines they gave her, they made Ginny quiet and that's not her doing.
Also, read her interviews during HBP and Part 1 of DH, she describes Ginny in the books and has read them. It was when promoting Part 2 and got the role in The Philosophers that she started saying Ginny in general in the films is quiet. Which she is. She knows Ginny got screwed over in the films. |
You're absolutely right about her screen time/lines, but I just feel like if Bonnie really was a good Ginny and understood the character enough, she would be able to make her limited screen time to work for her in any way possible, like other HP actors. Although, I do give credit to her in DH 2…that was one of her better portrayals of Ginny very similar to the book. I was shocked when that scream came out of her. :lol: And I never ever meant to insinuate that she didn't read the books, because I've seen her interviews as well. It's just in the interviews Bonnie and Ginny seem very much similar…quiet, which is why I’m wondering if she ever really got who Ginny was. She says Ginny is fiery but she never acts it, which may or may not be the director's fault. That's what I was trying to say up there…not that I hate Bonnie and her portrayal of Ginny overall. I swear I'm not trying to be mean to Bonnie... :lol: