SnitchSeeker chatted with Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald stars Ezra Miller (Credence Barebone) and Claudia Kim (Nagini) about their work in the second installment, this past weekend. Do note that this conversation has been edited from the full version, which contains major spoilers for the movie. That version will be posted after the November 16 debut.

Miller and Kim spoke about their characters bond and friendship on-screen, how they collaborated with director David Yates to bring them to life, and Credence's transformation from the first movie to Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald. That, and more, can be read below.

How did it feel to be one of the new people on set?
Claudia: It’s amazing being part of this family, and especially being paired with him (Ezra Miller) was such a beautiful journey. They share a great relationship. Everyone was just so welcoming. I was actually a little worried because the first film was so good. Everyone’s performance was incredible that “will I be able to up to their performances and blend in?” Nagini’s a strong character, and I’m grateful for what I have.

Ezra: Would you say though that the actor who played the Augurey was a horrible a----le? And made Claudia’s life a living hell. You didn’t even have scene work with that guy, but every time he would show up, smelling like booze. And we’d be like, “Augurey,” which is actually the actor’s name – he’s Augurey the Actor – and he was a horrible dude. That’s the one guy who we really, collectively, the cast … but that’s good sometimes, you know, you get that dynamic where you can all have someone who you don’t like together. In this case, it was the actor who played the augurey. His name was Augurey Jones. We haven’t talked to anyone about that. You heard it here first.

For those who look for Easter eggs, can you tease any Harry Potter references?
Ezra: We’re in the circus with a kappa, fire drakes, lots of creatures, lots of characters. More and more is being revealed about who we’ve got. I think that stuff is the greatest ever. And it’s so well-played. I just love this movie so much. I’m so obsessed.

We get a very different Credence in this movie than we did in the first one. How much of that is your input and how much is the script?
Ezra: Zero of it is my input, I hope. That is my prayer, my solemn prayer. I mean, it’s not like Shakespeare, man. I can’t just go ahead and improvise everything. This is JK f--king Rowling, you know what I mean?

Did you get to talk to JK and say how about if Credence does this instead?
Ezra: No. Sometimes on the day, David (Yates) is really interested in feeling out the pattern of a scene, the blocking, and if we feel collectively that something might work better in a slightly different way, we’ll come to that decision in a very collaborative, non-hierarchical process. It’s really an open field. David puts aside a lot of time to cater to all of our various idiosyncrasies and ridiculous viewpoints that are mostly wrong.

And he’s like, “Oh, yeah, probably not, mate, probably not.” But then there are really times where – I mean beyond really times – every single scene, he allows the space for everyone to talk through what they feel, and there’s lots of times where, together, we’ll change the fabric or the contours of a scene. It’s amazing that Jo trusts us to do that. It’s amazing that David trusts us to do that with him. David reminds me that a director is not a boss. It’s not a hierarchy. It’s not a king.

A director serves a purpose, just like everybody else, including every single person who builds magical Paris months before the director is there. David really, really works with that understanding. So everything is on an even keel of “let’s figure out how to create this together and do it as well as we can.” He’s obsessive. (to Claudia) At the end of this movie did you have any of those conversations where he was like, “It’s not good enough, mate.” I was like, “David, people loved it.” He was like, “We’ve got to make it better as we go or we’re failing ourselves.”

Claudia: For our scenes, his favorites are ones were where he left it open for us to feel it out and do what felt right for us. Remember?

Ezra: Totally.

Claudia: He does take enough time to speak to each and every one of us, and JK, too. I always thought, “Am I doing this right?” Because she probably knows everything and I know so little. “Am I really fitting into that expectation?” They just allow so much space.

The first time you went into the casting process, did you know which character you were playing?
Claudia: I didn’t know. I knew that the audition was for Fantastic Beasts and that Credence was in the scene, but I didn’t know anything about my character and that she was a Maledictus. I think that was helpful because it made me focus more on her qualities as a human being. I only found out that she’s Nagini when I went in for the last process of the audition where Ezra was.

Ezra: I live there.

Claudia: So that was a huge bomb to be dropped at such a critical moment.

Ezra: That’s so true. (imitates David Yates) “Oh, and by the way, you are Nagini. So if you know the books … whatever that does. Okay, let’s do this.”

Claudia: And I’m like, “sh--.” So yeah, I had to do the transformation in person when I was there.

Ezra: She actually had to prove that she could become a snake. You understand? You understand she said, “I actually had to do the transformation in person while I was there.” So think about that. She told you something very interesting. This is not a normal story, guys.

Did they explain to you the background story of these two characters? How they became friends?
Claudia: Not so much, no.

Ezra: It’s actually a zone where we’re given a lot of free reign and we did a lot of work, just us, honestly. We both put in a lot of time as individuals doing our own

Claudia: He made such an effort.

Ezra: That’s true. At first I chased Claudia down so we could build our own backstory time, but then eventually I felt like ultimately it was mutual. But at first I was the aggressor. I was like, “We really need to hang out. I need to take you to some pagan gatherings. WE should be having at least two meals together a week. I’m gonna call you on Friday, and if you’re not too tired, you’re gonna come and stay up all night with me at the solstice sacrifice – and it’s gonna be rad. You’re gonna learn a lot about …

Claudia: And I didn’t understand anything he was saying. I’ve never heard anything like that.

Ezra: Exactly. She’s never understood anything I’ve ever said. That’s what’s amazing is that we don’t actually understand each other at all.

Claudia: It’s blind faith.

Ezra: We just trust that we do like each other, you know? I don’t know why.

Claudia: And that we’ll make it through.

I’m interested in your reaction of the Harry Potter fans when they finish the movie and think you are Voldemort in his early days.
Ezra: When they finish watching this movie they will think that? That doesn’t make any sense to me, but cool. What’s great about art, is that everyone can interpret them the way they feel is right, and we can’t correct that or obstruct it. As the artist, just because we had a hand in channeling this work does not mean we can seek to correct it. I’m trying to sound as pretentious and be as much of a jerk as possible.

Is it more important to you to be an actor or a musician? What did you think of the soundtrack of the movie?
Ezra: I loved the soundtrack. I thought they did an incredible job. Before we had dialogue in cinema, we had music. Before we even had words as a species, we were like (pounds on table). You’re welcome, everyone, all of you listening back to this recording late at night, late for your deadline to write this article. That’s right. That is a reminder that techno is eternal.

What’s the status of the band? Is it active right now?
Ezra: Super active. Yes, Sons of an Illustrious Father is very active. We’re doing a tour in Europe, starting when this tour ends essentially. At the top of December, we do a European tour. We’re working on our next album, which is also a game. We are the eternal babbies. We will fight to the bitter end.

How about a U.S. tour?
Ezra: We just did a U.S. tour.

Another one. Come to Boston, man.

Ezra: We did come to Boston like a couple months ago, dude. Where were you? We do try to tell you through the internet. You’ll be on the list next time.

And I would like to know what’s happening with the “Flash” movie for 2019?
Ezra: Barry Allen shows up whenever the freak in the frequency he wants to. And when he does, he’ll solve everything. You will be tickled and you won’t even know who tickled you. Honestly.

How does it feel, Ezra, to revisit this character, because your personality is so different from Credence?
Ezra: I think I have a lot of different personalities that I enjoy to occupy at different times. I think it’s good to remain a bit fluid with these things. I think people who like know who they are, are super creepy.

Where did you play at Boston?
Ezra: We played at Great Scott’s, which was cool because it’s a place where my dad used to play every Thursday night. He was in a band in the ‘70s.

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Warner Bros. Pictures’ “Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald” is the second of five all new adventures in J.K. Rowling’s Wizarding World™.

At the end of the first film, the powerful Dark wizard Gellert Grindelwald (Johnny Depp) was captured by MACUSA (Magical Congress of the United States of America), with the help of Newt Scamander (Eddie Redmayne). But, making good on his threat, Grindelwald escaped custody and has set about gathering followers, most unsuspecting of his true agenda: to raise pure-blood wizards up to rule over all non-magical beings.

In an effort to thwart Grindelwald’s plans, Albus Dumbledore (Jude Law) enlists his former student Newt Scamander, who agrees to help, unaware of the dangers that lie ahead. Lines are drawn as love and loyalty are tested, even among the truest friends and family, in an increasingly divided wizarding world.

The film features an ensemble cast led by Eddie Redmayne, Katherine Waterston, Dan Fogler, Alison Sudol, Ezra Miller, Zoë Kravitz, Callum Turner, Claudia Kim, William Nadylam, Kevin Guthrie, Carmen Ejogo, Poppy Corby-Tuech, with Jude Law and Johnny Depp.

“Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald” is directed by David Yates, from a screenplay by J.K. Rowling. The film is produced by David Heyman, J.K. Rowling, Steve Kloves and Lionel Wigram. Tim Lewis, Neil Blair, Rick Senat and Danny Cohen serve as executive producers.

The film reunites the behind-the-scenes creative team from the first “Fantastic Beasts” film, including Oscar-winning director of photography Philippe Rousselot (“A River Runs Through It”), three-time Oscar-winning production designer Stuart Craig (“The English Patient,” “Dangerous Liaisons,” “Gandhi,” the “Harry Potter” films), four-time Oscar-winning costume designer Colleen Atwood (“Chicago,” “Memoirs of a Geisha,” “Alice in Wonderland,” “Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them”), and Yates’ longtime editor Mark Day (the last four “Harry Potter” films). The music is by eight-time Oscar nominee James Newton Howard (“Defiance,” “Michael Clayton,” “The Hunger Games” films).

Slated for release on November 16, 2018, the film will be distributed worldwide in 2D and 3D in select theatres and IMAX by Warner Bros. Pictures.

This film is rated PG-13 for some sequences of fantasy action.