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Old 01-26-2010, 10:57 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Hogwarts RPG Name:
Sophia Svensson #556B2F
Slytherin
Fifth Year

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Eulalia Walles (#F48037)
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Ema raised her hand. Why not? "Urg the Unclean was dunked into a pond by a group of wizards and humiliated. I assume the joke was that he was unclean or dirty in a way, and that's why he was an activist against wizards. It was very cruel of them." she nodded vigorously.

Mmmmmhmm!
Svensson shook his head--not at the answer itself, but at the fact that it was the first answer and, clearly, the thing about Urg that people remembered most.

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Miranda had really no idea, but the name of the Goblin seemed...odd. She raised her hand. "Sir, maybe he was unfair and not just at all. The nickname he had was maybe an indication oh how he negotiated and dealed with others. He was unclean...he might've tricked his opponents and cheated...with stuff...maybe." She looked worried. Well, it was a guess.
Svensson gesticulated wildly as he responded to this answer. "That's a very interesting proposition. It makes me wonder--was it the wizards who dubbed Urg "Unclean", or did fellow goblins, or even goblins of a later time, disapprove of his antics and refer to him as such? Other goblins surely agreed with his intentions--but did they agree with his methods?"

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Fred looked in his book then raised his and said, "Urg the Unclean led the Goblin rebellions of the 18th century".
"That's fairly important. Urg lived in the 1700s. Thank you for that tidbit," Svensson said, nodding his appreciation.

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Kellen didn't know anything about him, but the rest of the professor's question was more hypothetical so he decided to give it a shot, "He may have got the title from working with foul-smelling materials? Materials that wizards ordered him to work with, like bubotuber pus or something else like that. That would explain the name and his distaste for wizards."
Svensson scratched his chin thoughtfully. "That's a possibility. But why would Urg consent to work for wizards, even if ordered, after they shoved him into a pond when he was younger?" Svensson said. "Food for thought."

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"Urg lead most of the 18th Century Goblin Rebelions" said Barry. That was the easy part

Barry was not creative. This was where he failled. But he tried anyway "Maybe sir, he was called unclean for his bloodiness because he killed lots of people" Maybe? Barry was more of a fact person
"That's a possibility, too," Svensson admitted. "If that's the case, maybe he wasn't known as The Unclean until after his time."

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Cela raised her hand. "It was his thoughts that were 'unclean' to begin with anyway. He was an advocate of Goblins being allowed wands and of course, that isn't something that wizardkind wanted. He thought that if he married a witch, he'd be able to gain a wand legitimately. It was less the want of a wand and more the want of a witch that made his thoughts unclean, professor. He would do anything for Goblin rights, even going so far as to trick and manipulate, have dirty dealings so to speak." Cela smiled at Miranda in acknowledgement.

"Like I said, that was to start with, he began to embrace the name partly in order to hide the origins of it. He wore dirty clothes, was dunked in a pond," Celandine nodded at Emalyn, " And was generally all gross and unkempt. It made Wizardkind even more afraid of him and it built him a memorable legacy at the same time."
And yet another logical, yet unexpected, suggestion. Really. These kids were smarter than most people gave them credit for. "Another interesting proposition. And, like the others, it's fairly likely that there is at least a fraction of truth in it."

Svensson figured they had exhausted the topic of Urg, at least for now. "Let's go back in time a few hundred years before Urg. The goblin Gringott, founder of the bank so many of us trust our fortunes to. What do we know about Gringott? What part did he play in the goblin rebellions, especially those of the 1600s and 1700s? How did Gringott and his bank change history?"
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