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Arianna rubbed her nose for a moment, thinking " Thestrals are very unique fantastic animals aren't they? They're extremely intelligent and can only been seen by those who have seen death. That might contribute to the wand's unique powers right? " she wasn't very sure that made sense, it was hard to explain why something was so powerful " and elder wood is quite unique too I think, if I remember correctly, in some regions it's believed to have spirits inside too" she nibbled on her nails " other than that, it's quite rare that a wand lasts for so long, with time wand's cores are supposed to slowly fade right? This one never does, I think it's kept alive by it's owner life and strength and I read somewhere that it's supposed to turn into a normal wand just as soon as it's owner dies of a natural death without ever being defeated." she said, ending her speech with curious eyes.
"Certainly the nature of the thestral is a large influence on the Elder Wand. A Thestral tail hair core will only respond to those who can face death. This aligns itself with the name 'Deathstick' in some ways. Elder wood indeed has associations with spirits." Truebridge answered, after listening carefully to what Arianna had to say.

"As for your comments about wand core's fading, it isn't really something that is particularly well known because most wands are not agreeable with being inherited by someone else. Often a wand is not compatible with its new 'owner' and the resulting struggles with casting spells was, in the past, often blamed on the core 'fading'." Ethan attempted to explain.

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K rasied her hand, "Well Professor this is quite a unique wand because it is made from a unique creature the Thestral which is different becuase not everyone can see it. That is important because if only so many people can see the creature only so many people may be able to get a hold of the wand." She hoped at least that part may be right. "Because Death gose along with the Trestral it may be why this wand is the most poweful." she also went on to say hopeing at least the effort counted.
"It is more that, as I said, a thestral hair core requires the wielder of the wand to be able to face death. You can be afraid of other things, but if it is death that you are afraid of, the wand will not bend to your will." Ethan clarified.

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...Terry centres the ball to the penalty area, Drogba controls it, looks at the goal, shoots, Reina can't control and GOOAAL!!

Not in this class.

Evan snapped back to reality with the question of... He looked around, and saw the sign on the board. Riight, Deathly Hallows. Elder wand. He was in a class, not in Stamford Bridge. Keep that in mind.

He raised his hand unsurely. He really had little information on wands, and even little on Elder Wand. He just guessed. "I think as the thestrals are considered as dangerous, the wand may be dangerous too? And..." He did have something else to say! Think Evan! "And... oh yeah. As only people who have seen death can see thestrals, maybe the wand itself need a death to fully lend itself?" Making up much?
"Good theories." Ethan gave the Slytherin boy a 'pay attention' look, not missing the absent expression that had been on his face a moment before.

"The wand does need a death; to pass on to a new owner, its wielder needed to be conquered."

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"Porfessor, The Elder Wand is special indeed. Death gave the Elder wand to Antioch Peverell. The wand has magic that is unknown to many of us. It is pasted to the new owner by dualing of in a fight. The wand was last seen at the defeat of Voldemort by Harry Potter. Also, a Thestral core is very unheard of." Kay said with her hand in the air.
"A thestral core is very rare." Ethan agreed with a nod.

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"Well, professor, “Zoe added raising her hand, "Since the story is that Death is the one who made the wand there are probably certain magical qualities about it that we may never understand until we possibly find a way to truly understand death itself. There may also be a much stronger connection between the Thestral tail hair choice and Death which may help explain the wands odd power. Since a person can only see a Thestral if their lives have been touched by death in some way and the wand was created by death maybe the wand pulls from something beyond the veil or from a part of all of us that is controlled by death. The fact that in order to properly wield the wand you have to defeat its previous owner is also connected with death. Although you wouldn't have to kill the previous owner, many often do and they say that death follows the wand. The sense of power that it gives people may make them more likely to kill when they normally wouldn’t have."

Zoe was completely losing track of her original point, like usual. After a brief pause to reorganize her thoughts, she continued, "What I was trying to say is that the Perverell brothers were trying to master or overcome death, but in the end death tricked two of them with his gifts. In the case of the wand, death made it in such a way that it was connected to death on many levels and would bring that brother and many others to him that much quicker."

In the end Zoe thought that she had gotten her point across, but when she babbled on like that she could never quite be sure. Eventually she just had to stop talking because she felt silly and her mouth started to dry up.
"Good thinking." Ethan nodded, always appreciating depth of thought in his students. "Also, consider that a part of your own essence is present in your wand, particularly so the longer you have it. So each and every owner of the Elder Wand, would influence the wand itself. Most of them were driven by power and 'absolute power corrupts absolutely' as they say."

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Satine raised her hand, "Professor, are there any speculations where the wand has disappeared to? I mean when it disappeared before Dumbledore lost it there was lots of ideas of where it might be...none were right...but they still had guesses...does anyone have guesses...I mean I assume Harry Potter had it after the battle...." she said letting her thought trail off.
"For all we know," Ethan raised one eyebrow, "The Elder Wand may have been recovered. However, if the last true owner died of natural causes, then its legendary power would have died with it and it either lives on as a regular wand or perhaps even a dead one."

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Herminny had an idea of how to answer this question and raised her hand and said, "The elder wood is said to be the most powerful wood that could render a witch or wizard powerless loke warding off evil spirits as muggles called it thinking people with magical powers were possessed. This ties in with the elder wand cause it is said to be able to defeat any witch or wizard in a duel however the thestral hair in it is what makes things more intresting is that it has a thestral tail hair which is said that in order for a person to use this sort of wand they must be willing to face death because it is a powerful and tricky substance that can be mastered only by a witch or wizard capable of facing death, those who are no afraid willing to do whatever it takes including kill to win. Those who have the power and the elder wand can sense that and only works well for a person who is confident in it's ability and if that person is defeated or killed in a duell the wand is then only loyal to the person who defeated it's former owner. The important thing to note about the elder wand is that it is indefeatable,not the person who posesses it. It's also said this cycle can end if the owner of the elder wand is not defeated and dies peacefully and then this wand becomes like that of any other, defeatable.".
"Right, and of course this all lends credence to the idea that a wand is sentient." Ethan answered.

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Marie slowly raised her hand to try and answer the professor. "Sir I think the thestral can only be seen by someone who has seen death so would that mean the wand would only work for someone who has seen death?"
"Not seen death, the connection lies in the ability to face death and accept it. Just like with seeing a thestral, the death needs to have 'sunk in' for the thestral to be visible." Ethan explained.

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Fyo raised his hand. "Fifteen inches, that’s a little longer than most wands, isn’t it, Professor?” He as much asked, as suggested. “I would venture that fits the concept of longevity or increase – in a wizard or witch’s power, or perhaps their chances of survival in battle.”

“The core of thestral tail hair fits, too,” he continued, nose scrunched up in thought. "Because the wand is, in its legends of "undefeatable," a tool that many a wizard who wishes to put mortality behind, would want to get his hands on - in other words, a tool of survival. And isn't it survival, what the thestral really signifies? A person who can see the creature is a person who has seen death. An insignificant thing, if looked at from the usual point of view but, alter the viewpoint a little, and we may say a person who has seen death has survived despite seeing, in a way, the thing that ends life and all mortal power.”

He half-lowered his hand, then raised it again. “Wood of elder, too, sir. The alder is known to have a bitter and unpleasant taste, but it is best remembered for its survival purposes, acting as medicine when consumed in the right quantities. I wouldn’t deem that a coincidence – something that heals, thought it embitters.”

"Also, the sight of a fifteen inch wand is a fairly intimidating thing." Ethan answered, reaching up into the display orb and pulling out the image of the Elder Wand with a thick gooey popping sound. He held it out alongside the cherry wand he carried, and the model of the Elder Wand was a good four inches longer.

"Some good theories Fyo."

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Destiny slowly raised her hand 'Umm, well, thestrals are supposed to be an unlucky creature. So the bearer of the wand would be unlucky, right? Because everyone wanted the elder wand for themselves, the owner would have to keep defending thereself. I would think I was unlucky holding that wand, with people trying to do me in over it!' she let out a short laugh.
"Luck is often relative." Ethan answered, "Anyone who seeked to claim the Elder Wand for themselves, would be well aware of its nature. In some cases, superstition around the wand worked for the wand." He nodded along with Destiny's suggestion though.

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i am not sure what it is but it also know as the the wand of destiny and the death stick it is supposed to be powerfull then any other wand. people think it makes the owner to powerfull to beat in duel
"Which is ironic considering how many owners the Elder Wand has had." Truebridge agreed.

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"I'm not sure if this goes arm in arm with the Thestral element, Professor..." Sylvia spoke up eith her hand in the air. "But, do elder tree leaves give off narcotic toxins which .. may relieve pain but can indure sleep? Would the sleep, in the sense of the Elder wand, be a euphemism for death?"
"That is an interesting idea Sylvia." Ethan agreed in a musing tone.

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Kaiyo tilted her head to the left, her eyes wandering along the top right of the room (her thoughtful pose) as she tried to remember what thestral's were. The girl's thoguts were sparked by her classmate's answer, Kaiyo damn near jumped up in surprise as she spoke excitedly, 'yeah, yeah, yeah, Thestrals can only be seen by people who have seen death, but aren't they meant to be quite peaceful and calming....so could they have the reverse effect in the wand, whereby they protect it's user from death by using its own deathly power to counteract...death?'. In all the excitement kaiyo's mind had been allowed to wander off in any direction it felt like. The girl sat motionless as she tried desperately to understand her own explanation.
"The only way to defeat death is by accepting the inevitability of it, which is a lesson we learn from the story of The Three Brothers." Truebridge winked once in response to the young girl's eager excitement.

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Many people already answered the question, but Nataly had a unique answer, so she still raised her hand. "It's core is a thestral tail hair. Only people who saw death can see them, and many of the Elder wand owners killed the previous ones to get it. Also, it's a very long wand, and longer wands are more powerful. Even Voldemort's wand was shorter."
"A common misconception. The power of the wand is not measured by its length." Ethan corrected. "The length of the wand serves merely as a balance for the other factors. It is the length which provides stability and harmony between the core, the wood and the quality. Interestingly, you often find a longer wand on a taller witch or wizard, and a shorter wand on someone who is shorter. I have noticed myself, that the more ambitious someone is, the longer their wand often is. That might be fanciful thought on my part however, so I wouldn't take the ambition thing as fact." Truebridge twirled the Elder Wand replica in his hand.

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Miranda watched and wrote down her notes of what everyone else and the professor was saying. She had heard alot about the Deathly Hallows, having a wizard for a father who read her the stories when she was little.

Now, she wasn't entirely sure she understood the question that the professor had asked, but Miranda wanted to give a try to answer anyways.
"Sir," she said with her hand raised "Could it be that since Death had made the elder wand, the use of a Thestral tail core is significant because those creatures are only visible to those who have seen death?"

"Also, I think that the brother, Antioch, wanted to sort of control death, to choose who he wanted to kill - knowing that it would be possible to just point that wand and destroy a man... " she trailed, hoping she was making sense.

Phew... This topic was deeeeeeeep.
"Antioch believed, if he could not be defeated, then death would not claim him." Ethan agreed. "A sense of power comes with the knowledge that you are capable of destroying another person, what it comes down to is whether or not that feeling of power is something that drives you."

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Tavelon raised his hand. "Well, Thestrals can only be seen by those who have seen death. According to the tale the Pervell brothers literally saw death. There's probably a link there." But everyone knew that thestrals were related to death. He wracked his mind, trying to think about the other parts of the wand.

"Oh, and the number 15 is the Magic Constant of a magic square, or a 3 by 3. The mathematic thing. That probably has to do with it's lasting nature." It was a shot in the dark, as the math itself wasn't magical. Unless you bought into arithmancy, which Tavelon hadn't so far.
"Those are some excellent theories." Ethan gave Tavelon a solemn nod.


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Kylie raised her hand, "Well. Fifteen inches is pretty long for a wand, so wouldn't that in itself be kind of... significant? And elder wood.. isn't it supposed to be unlucky.. or attract evil.. or something along those lines? Or maybe it was just that it's a very powerful and strong wood?" Kylie's memory was eluding her quite often today, darn. "Oh. And obviously thestral hair is extremely rare.. as only those who have witnessed death can see them. Would it be a stretch to say that the elder wand may be the only wand containing a thestral hair core?" Kylie's question was serious, she wondered if there were other wands out there...using a thestral core...
"A fifteen inch wand is quite imposing. Consider..." Ethan slid the replica of the Elder Wand (which was really just a piece of elder shaped like the legendary deathstick) into his holster and flicked it out again. It was an awkward movement due to the sheer length of the wand, as well as the fanciful design. He put it in his inside pocket and again drew it awkwardly. Ethan continued to demonstrate various draw positions, none of them quite suited to the length of the wand.

"Such a wand would often be carried in plain sight and not holstered or hidden at all, partly out of practicality and partly so that it is seen. Otherwise the length itself, as I said, provides a balance to the other characteristics of the wand." Ethan nodded.

"And actually, the Elder Wand is not the only wand with a thestral hair core, though it is a fairly rare core. That is partly because the wandmaker needs to see the substance they work with and the thestral hair is not an easy one at all, and partly because not everyone can face death."

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Cedric raised his wand attentively, they were having a serious lecture and heneed his ears, eyes and heart combined to understand the lesson. It's all about wands; Wand lessons in a few subjects made him wonder. He wonder why they'll studying about wands. "Sir, first of all, It has a Thestral tail hair core. And we all know that Thestral are like exotic creatures cause they can only be seen by person who'd witnessed a process of dying. And err, Thestral is invisible, yep, and can't be seen by person who had not witnessed death. Death had made it because of that factor Sir. Thestral symbolizes death and death symbolizes Death itself.

"And a person even if he/she is a power-hungry one or a person with a good heart could get the elder wand from his/her owner by killing the person who owns it. That way, person can get the wand from the owner. Killing is another word associated with death." Cedric stated. He thought that that one would suffice.

All and all. ugh. Wand lessons wonders him, a lot. "And Sir, I has a question and I want it to be honestly and completely answered. Why we are taking wand lessons all over the classes. First, we had wand lessons on CoMC and Herbolgy, then in HoM. Is it because of the constant disapperances of the wands of the school staff and students? "
"Death is indeed associated with the Thestral." Ethan agreed, picking that much out of everything Cedric said.

Hmmm? Honestly and completely answered?

"People have been losing their wands?" Ethan asked a question in return, reholstering the cherry wand and tapping the replica Elder Wand on his knee thoughtfully.

"Who? And I apologise Cedric, but aside from the one class that Iliana and I did together on dragons a few terms back, I do not have any input in what is taught in Care of Magical Creatures. As for Herbology..." Ethan cleared his throat. "...I have no influence on that subject either. In any case I have a wand, as you can see." He held up his arm, letting the sleeve of his robes drop to reveal a holster and a cherry wood wand.

"If anyone would like to, just to see what it feels like to wield a longer wand, you may have a look at this replica. It is not a real wand, just a strip of elder wood." He passed it to the nearest student.

"Now, we know that Death created the wand and it was passed from person to person as each owner was defeated or disarmed, so tell me, who are the known masters of the Deathstick?"
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