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PadfootAndTheWolf · 08-08-2009, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassirin

Copernicus was ready to speak again. He nodded at his classmates who had recently made such interesting points before taking the stand again. "Chris, it's interesting to me that you bring up Dobby. He's the house elf that has been bandied about by everyone on the side seeking change, sort of as a champion or proof that house elves desire freedom."

It was a good argument for the other side, which was why Cope had to methodically tear it down as much as possible. "If we truly look at the relationship Dobby had with his masters throughout history, I think a different picture emerges, however. Dobby did not seek freedom, although he was very much oppressed. Even under the most inhumane of treatment, Dobby did not ask Harry Potter to help free him. That freedom was thrust upon him, and rightly so... we have a moral obligation to take care of all creatures."

"Even after Dobby received his freedom," Cope continued, "he immediately sought a new position. He accepted payment, employment, because there was no other means to bind him to Hogwarts as a house elf now that his bonds to a master were broken, but he accepted those grudgingly. It was his desire to continue to serve. Dobby could have traveled the world, raising awareness for house elves. He could have done any number of things with his freedom. But even Dobby chose to reenter service, despite a terrible previous master. I think that speaks volumes."

Chris nodded as Cope finished his thoughts on what Chris had previously said. He did a great job explaining his views. Chris was searching the short speech as Cope spoke it and found a bit of information to help out his cause.

"Cope you are right that Dobby after being freed, still searched for work at Hogwarts and assisting Harry. But one thing that has just come to me is that you said he could have traveled and raised awareness of House Elves. But really that would be nearly impossible at this time period. Because if you remember what state the Ministry and Wizarding World was at the time. Minister of Magic, Cornelious Fudge, didn't believe Harry potter or Albus Dumbledore about Voldemort's obvious return, and more he didn't even care about Goblin squabbles or centaur riots that were very important at the time. Today Dobby may have had a chance to do what you said, but today's Ministry is much more understanding and there are lots of people that are willing to help the cause." Chris said taking a breath after long speech.

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PadfootAndTheWolf formerly: DanialRadFAN01 Bicorn Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: On SS of course! Posts: 16,991 Hogwarts RPG Name: Kiera Burton x6	House Elves who want change post 3 Gaga Mafia Monster : MURPHY : Kelvin's SS!BFAM : Roro's Evil Twin : Ravlyndor : Gopher Quote: Originally Posted by Cassirin Copernicus was ready to speak again. He nodded at his classmates who had recently made such interesting points before taking the stand again. "Chris, it's interesting to me that you bring up Dobby. He's the house elf that has been bandied about by everyone on the side seeking change, sort of as a champion or proof that house elves desire freedom." It was a good argument for the other side, which was why Cope had to methodically tear it down as much as possible. "If we truly look at the relationship Dobby had with his masters throughout history, I think a different picture emerges, however. Dobby did not seek freedom, although he was very much oppressed. Even under the most inhumane of treatment, Dobby did not ask Harry Potter to help free him. That freedom was thrust upon him, and rightly so... we have a moral obligation to take care of all creatures." "Even after Dobby received his freedom," Cope continued, "he immediately sought a new position. He accepted payment, employment, because there was no other means to bind him to Hogwarts as a house elf now that his bonds to a master were broken, but he accepted those grudgingly. It was his desire to continue to serve. Dobby could have traveled the world, raising awareness for house elves. He could have done any number of things with his freedom. But even Dobby chose to reenter service, despite a terrible previous master. I think that speaks volumes." Chris nodded as Cope finished his thoughts on what Chris had previously said. He did a great job explaining his views. Chris was searching the short speech as Cope spoke it and found a bit of information to help out his cause. "Cope you are right that Dobby after being freed, still searched for work at Hogwarts and assisting Harry. But one thing that has just come to me is that you said he could have traveled and raised awareness of House Elves. But really that would be nearly impossible at this time period. Because if you remember what state the Ministry and Wizarding World was at the time. Minister of Magic, Cornelious Fudge, didn't believe Harry potter or Albus Dumbledore about Voldemort's obvious return, and more he didn't even care about Goblin squabbles or centaur riots that were very important at the time. Today Dobby may have had a chance to do what you said, but today's Ministry is much more understanding and there are lots of people that are willing to help the cause." Chris said taking a breath after long speech.