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Cassirin · 08-08-2009, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DanialRadFAN01

Chris listened as the Slytherin girl explainedher stance on how House-elves were supposed to help witches and wizards that they were their servants. "Well, Kiri is it? Although it is the nature of house-elves to serve witches and wizards it still is not the wish of all of them. Take probobly the most famous House-elf, Dobby, for example. He was treated unfairly by his masters and decided to stand up to them by helping Harry Potter. This shows that serving us is not the ideal life for all House-elves. Im not saying all House elves need to quit their jobs, im just saying as I am representing HOuse Elves that want change, that if there are certain house elves who no longer want to be servants they should be able to be Imancipated from their masters, its only fair since they are as you said,'creatures with feelings of their own'." he quoted her to get the main point of his down. "And any other House Elf wishing to stay in their employment should be allowed because House Elves should have their right to choose freedom or service. Pay or no pay." He he finished his rebutal and waited for someone to respond.

Copernicus was ready to speak again. He nodded at his classmates who had recently made such interesting points before taking the stand again. "Chris, it's interesting to me that you bring up Dobby. He's the house elf that has been bandied about by everyone on the side seeking change, sort of as a champion or proof that house elves desire freedom."

It was a good argument for the other side, which was why Cope had to methodically tear it down as much as possible. "If we truly look at the relationship Dobby had with his masters throughout history, I think a different picture emerges, however. Dobby did not seek freedom, although he was very much oppressed. Even under the most inhumane of treatment, Dobby did not ask Harry Potter to help free him. That freedom was thrust upon him, and rightly so... we have a moral obligation to take care of all creatures."

"Even after Dobby received his freedom," Cope continued, "he immediately sought a new position. He accepted payment, employment, because there was no other means to bind him to Hogwarts as a house elf now that his bonds to a master were broken, but he accepted those grudgingly. It was his desire to continue to serve. Dobby could have traveled the world, raising awareness for house elves. He could have done any number of things with his freedom. But even Dobby chose to reenter service, despite a terrible previous master. I think that speaks volumes."

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Cassirin Legacy!! Manticore Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Nom nom nom Posts: 43,197 Hogwarts RPG Name: Mercer Branxton Ravenclaw Seventh Year x7 x8	House Elves Happy with the Way Things Are #2 Made of Awesome \| Ern-la the Best-wa \| TZ's Apogee Quote: Originally Posted by DanialRadFAN01 Chris listened as the Slytherin girl explainedher stance on how House-elves were supposed to help witches and wizards that they were their servants. "Well, Kiri is it? Although it is the nature of house-elves to serve witches and wizards it still is not the wish of all of them. Take probobly the most famous House-elf, Dobby, for example. He was treated unfairly by his masters and decided to stand up to them by helping Harry Potter. This shows that serving us is not the ideal life for all House-elves. Im not saying all House elves need to quit their jobs, im just saying as I am representing HOuse Elves that want change, that if there are certain house elves who no longer want to be servants they should be able to be Imancipated from their masters, its only fair since they are as you said,'creatures with feelings of their own'." he quoted her to get the main point of his down. "And any other House Elf wishing to stay in their employment should be allowed because House Elves should have their right to choose freedom or service. Pay or no pay." He he finished his rebutal and waited for someone to respond. Copernicus was ready to speak again. He nodded at his classmates who had recently made such interesting points before taking the stand again. "Chris, it's interesting to me that you bring up Dobby. He's the house elf that has been bandied about by everyone on the side seeking change, sort of as a champion or proof that house elves desire freedom." It was a good argument for the other side, which was why Cope had to methodically tear it down as much as possible. "If we truly look at the relationship Dobby had with his masters throughout history, I think a different picture emerges, however. Dobby did not seek freedom, although he was very much oppressed. Even under the most inhumane of treatment, Dobby did not ask Harry Potter to help free him. That freedom was thrust upon him, and rightly so... we have a moral obligation to take care of all creatures." "Even after Dobby received his freedom," Cope continued, "he immediately sought a new position. He accepted payment, employment, because there was no other means to bind him to Hogwarts as a house elf now that his bonds to a master were broken, but he accepted those grudgingly. It was his desire to continue to serve. Dobby could have traveled the world, raising awareness for house elves. He could have done any number of things with his freedom. But even Dobby chose to reenter service, despite a terrible previous master. I think that speaks volumes." __________________ ★ Dawn ★ Awakening ★ Spiritual ★ Hopeful ★ Honest