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Old 08-01-2009, 11:00 AM   #63 (permalink)
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Lucy's mood lightened up even more as she saw her favorite house elf appear. Beezley had been one of the house elves Lucy had helped Professor Morgan with after the kitchen floor had been flooded. She waved at the house elf and smiled, hoping that she would remember Lucy. She looked over at Schmoop and felt a little bad. Even though Lucy hadn't used any of the words that the house elf clearly didn't like, she was sorry.

"A Being is any creature with adequate intelligence to understand and follow the laws of the wizarding community." Lucy said responding to the professors question, her hand in the air. She listened to the professors next question and proceeded to answer. "Well theres the organization S.P.E.W. - Society for the Promotion of Elfish Welfare. It was created to give house elves their rights."
"Right, though like us, not all beings agree with the laws." Ethan answered, "S.P.E.W, right. A point for you, Lucy."

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Cam raaaised his hand up high, "Beeeings are like magical creatures that posses intelligence. Well, enough intelligence to understand the laws and all that." House elves had that. Definitely smart. Second question? With his hand still raised high, he spoke again, "There was thingy um... the Guidelines for the Treatment of Non-Wizard Part-Humans--they were like some set of rules to stop discrimination and such against magical beings. Like... the non-huuuman-ish ones."
"Excellent, thank you Cam. The Guidelines for the Treatment of Non-Wizard Part-Humans, certainly do pertain to house elves. A point for your answer." Truebridge nodded.

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"House elves are considered beings because they are creatures with enough wits to abide by our laws and such. In other words, unlikes other creatures like Chimaeras, they do not ... follow their instincts, I suppose? Because they are fully aware of the consequences that come with breaking the rules." Right? Hopefully. "As for the organizations, I know about the Society for the Promotion of Elfish Welfare, and that the majority of house elves did not seem pleased by it at first - apparently they thought of being freed was dreadful for them." She shrugged. "I suppose that it means that they actually do enjoy to work for us, or as Schmoop said, to 'please us.'"
"They do follow their instincts if one considers their instincts to lean towards helping wizardkind. You bring up a good point about S.P.E.W, certainly the organisation was intended to help house elves but it went about it the wrong way, and certainly did not take the desires of the majority into consideration. Have a point."

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Chris raised his hand. "A being professor, is something that is complete and lacking no essential characteristic." he nodded and then decided to answer the second question. "Well a person noted for trying to help House Elf rights would be hermione Granger who started her organization, S.P.E.W ( Society for the Promotion of Elvish Welfare)."
"Interesting definition, true enough even if your answer itself is lacking something essential." Ethan nodded at the prefect. "Thank you for mentioning Hermione Granger, a point for you."

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Cela skipped the first question and answered the second one. "The house elf relocation office is there to support them, and the Beings division in general is supposed to work in their best interest. Hogwarts as well helps support house elves because they can still help us out with domestic things but aren't treated badly." She spoke from her spot in the cushions, with her hand raised.
"I'm going to have to give you two points for that answer Celandine, the house-elf relocation office, the Beings Division and Hogwarts itself are very good answers and we will come back to them soon." Truebridge told the Ravenclaw.

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"Well Professor, the house elfs being classified by beings, I think this means that since the house elfs breathe, eat, sleep, think, talk, move , and can perform their own kind of magic. I think the house elfs should be respected and treated kindly, like our kind friend Schoomp here, I think that because he was treated kindly by students he like them. Now on the other hand our other friend Algamus here I think was teated unkindly by some students so he doesn't like them" Ash said looking around the room for emphises

"And a group that suported and furthered elfish rights was started right here in Hogwarts by one Hermione Granger, I'm talking of course of S.P.E.W or the Society for the Promotion of Elfish Welfare" Ash said looking around for Schoomp for a cookie
"Thank you for providing a non-textbook answer, that is a very logical conclusion you have reached but consider that not all house-elves have the same temperament. True, mistreatment can often be a telling point, but Algamus," And Ethan nodded politely at the house elf, "Is perfectly within his rights to dislike certain things or certain people, just as we do. A point for you."

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"Algie is rememberings this... This... SPEWNESS!" Algamus spat, his arms crossed over his chest, his mood very very sour. "We elvsies, we be happy we is serving as our masters and us be your slavises, but stupid Granger person made wanted us to be... to be..."

Algamus then made a disgusted face and whispered, "free."
"Freedom. Thank you for sharing your opinion there, Algamus." Ethan nodded politely, "What must be understood about S.P.E.W is that the house elves were not consulted about what they considered to be within their best interest."

Ethan shot a little look at George to be sure she was not preparing a weapon to throw at him or something. Satisfied that she was not, he continued.

"So I have a few questions for you all, and I'd like you to think about your answers. What is freedom anyway? And what actions might S.P.E.W have taken to truly support house elves and look out for their best interests?"
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