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Con_Stripes · 07-02-2009, 06:28 AM

SPOILER!!: Correct Answers

“Good guessing everyone, and excellent deductions.” Truebridge had taken note of the more thoughtful questions and noted who had joined in with the guessing and asking. Thank you Varius, Natka, Kiri and Herminny.” Ethan nodded politely at each of them, quite pleased with how well they had done.

SPOILER!!: Debating?

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Originally Posted by 10DesmondsDaughter14

Helena frowned and, completely forgetting herself, said, How does that possibly have anything to do with their appearance? Is there some law that says you have to be old and gray to earn the Order of Merlin? Look at Gildory Lockhart - Order of Merlin third class! This was much to confusing for her.

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Originally Posted by Celandine

"Well, they are all wizards aren't they." Celandine pointed out with a nod. "So, human."

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Originally Posted by 10DesmondsDaughter14

Are they all wizards, though? Not only have some been witches, but it is absolutely possible for a creature of near-human intelligence to receive it. It is more of a group of people with awards than an actual group and is bound only by those within having done things noble or for the incredible benefit of others. Such things were something Helena knew about, and she wasn't taking to kindly to be wrongly disagreed with.

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Originally Posted by She-Who-Is-Not-To-Be-Psycho!

Diane was puzzled for a long while. Then somebody said 'Order of Merlin' and other people reproduced her same thoughts. "I'm afraid I agree with my, ah, house mate." She looked over at Helena for clarification. "That's certainly not an organization where appearance or physical characteristics are very relevant, I think. Well, more like I see wizards and witches look the same as muggles and are of the same constitutional characteristics."

She considered it for a while longer. Then shrugged. "Ah, well. It's okay, it's just a mistake."

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Originally Posted by Celandine

"Humanoid then." Celandine shrugged. "Whatever you like to call it and it totally is more than a group of people with awards, Originally it was created in order to protect muggles from being harmed by magic. It created laws against using magic against muggles and influenced the creation of the statue of secrecy. The Order of Merlin was a group promoting equal rites for Wizardkind -regardless of blood- and muggles too." Celandine explained, smiling happily. Gee she liked Slytherins, they were smart.

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Originally Posted by 10DesmondsDaughter14

True enough, Helena continued, But it is also no untrue to say that receiving the Order of Merlin is what places you in the group and therefore basis its members off that alone.

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Originally Posted by Celandine

"Is it truer to say that the Order bestows the award and being a member of the order may be fundamentally different to having recieved the award? Furthermore, if you look at it over history, you could even divide it into two seperate groups by the same name; the original Order of Merlin or indeed those that were awarded the Order of Merlin, First, Second or Third class. I think it became a status thing too, the ministry used it at one time as a reward for people who had given copious amounts of money to support the minister rather than for doing anything that truly ended up benefiting muggle/wizard relations, which was it's original purpose. So we could say I am referring more to the original Order of Merlin and you are referring to the more Contemporary Order of Merlin." Cela suggested, smiling enthusiastically.

"That's kind of interesting really, tracking how an organisation has changed over time and whether it has influenced or been influenced and for each of those, to what degree."

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Originally Posted by She-Who-Is-Not-To-Be-Psycho!

"Well, actually, if we don't get too offtrack, the idea is that the boy was representing one of the people who were part of the Order of Merlin, not the awarded person. Unless the awarded person is considered a member him or herself..." Diane said this while she flipped her textbook looking for answers, and found none which could relate to this subject for now. "In either case, where physical form is concerned..." Then she raised her head,

"Well, since we are done playing with you -" she asked the Hufflepuff boy, big smile on her face, "would you mind telling us your reasoning for your answer? Just to satify our curiosity."

"Though," she reasoned afterwards, tilting her head, "the thing they have in common may be, they all possess limbs and heads...?" ...Well, why not?

Ethan listened to the discussion with interest, pleased to hear the two Slytherins holding their own.
“Do remember that the volunteers are categorising the questions as yes, no or irrelevant based on their own ideas and experiences. It is interesting to note that in some situations what may be considered by the majority as irrelevant now, might have been a factor of classification in the past.” He paused thoughtfully.
“In any case, it is certainly good practice to be debating such things and I do encourage it in my classroom. If there ever are any topics brought up that any of you wish to discuss, as long as you are discussing something history related, I do not mind at all.”

07-02-2009, 06:28 AM	#203 (permalink)
Con_Stripes Mooncalf Join Date: May 2008 Location: GMT +12 or 13 Posts: 7,031 Hogwarts RPG Name: Oz Thickey Sixth Year Diagon Alley Proprietor: Leon Odessa	ooc: apologies, I've been quite sick The Eye of Sauron \| Zan-y \| Snake Charmer SPOILER!!: Correct Answers Quote: Originally Posted by Cassirin Copernicus directed his questions at Natka. "Natka, is your organization the Official Gobstones Club?" He didn't mind wasting his guess if it got that choice out of the way right off. Quote: Originally Posted by tex Listening to him answer everyone else’s questions though, his attention was soon brought to that Slytherin, Kiri Starstalker. His small arm shot into the air so fast it was almost inhuman. “Hey you!", The gestured at Kiri, "WIZENGAMOT! Am I right mate, am I?” His eyes could not be opened any wider, his head was nodded for reassurance. He almost looked like a bobble-head. Quote: Originally Posted by Celandine "Herminny, is your group the Slug Club?" Cela asked. Quote: Originally Posted by Grangerfn1 Becca may not have been the smartest kid around, but she was by Cela in hopes of taking her down during the class. But the girl had a list of clues written down. So why not use them to her advantage? "Uh, Varius, is your organization theee... Order of Merlin?" “Good guessing everyone, and excellent deductions.” Truebridge had taken note of the more thoughtful questions and noted who had joined in with the guessing and asking. Thank you Varius, Natka, Kiri and Herminny.” Ethan nodded politely at each of them, quite pleased with how well they had done. SPOILER!!: Debating? Quote: Originally Posted by 10DesmondsDaughter14 Helena frowned and, completely forgetting herself, said, How does that possibly have anything to do with their appearance? Is there some law that says you have to be old and gray to earn the Order of Merlin? Look at Gildory Lockhart - Order of Merlin third class! This was much to confusing for her. Quote: Originally Posted by Celandine "Well, they are all wizards aren't they." Celandine pointed out with a nod. "So, human." Quote: Originally Posted by 10DesmondsDaughter14 Are they all wizards, though? Not only have some been witches, but it is absolutely possible for a creature of near-human intelligence to receive it. It is more of a group of people with awards than an actual group and is bound only by those within having done things noble or for the incredible benefit of others. Such things were something Helena knew about, and she wasn't taking to kindly to be wrongly disagreed with. Quote: Originally Posted by She-Who-Is-Not-To-Be-Psycho! Diane was puzzled for a long while. Then somebody said 'Order of Merlin' and other people reproduced her same thoughts. "I'm afraid I agree with my, ah, house mate." She looked over at Helena for clarification. "That's certainly not an organization where appearance or physical characteristics are very relevant, I think. Well, more like I see wizards and witches look the same as muggles and are of the same constitutional characteristics." She considered it for a while longer. Then shrugged. "Ah, well. It's okay, it's just a mistake." Quote: Originally Posted by Celandine "Humanoid then." Celandine shrugged. "Whatever you like to call it and it totally is more than a group of people with awards, Originally it was created in order to protect muggles from being harmed by magic. It created laws against using magic against muggles and influenced the creation of the statue of secrecy. The Order of Merlin was a group promoting equal rites for Wizardkind -regardless of blood- and muggles too." Celandine explained, smiling happily. Gee she liked Slytherins, they were smart. Quote: Originally Posted by 10DesmondsDaughter14 True enough, Helena continued, But it is also no untrue to say that receiving the Order of Merlin is what places you in the group and therefore basis its members off that alone. Quote: Originally Posted by Celandine "Is it truer to say that the Order bestows the award and being a member of the order may be fundamentally different to having recieved the award? Furthermore, if you look at it over history, you could even divide it into two seperate groups by the same name; the original Order of Merlin or indeed those that were awarded the Order of Merlin, First, Second or Third class. I think it became a status thing too, the ministry used it at one time as a reward for people who had given copious amounts of money to support the minister rather than for doing anything that truly ended up benefiting muggle/wizard relations, which was it's original purpose. So we could say I am referring more to the original Order of Merlin and you are referring to the more Contemporary Order of Merlin." Cela suggested, smiling enthusiastically. "That's kind of interesting really, tracking how an organisation has changed over time and whether it has influenced or been influenced and for each of those, to what degree." Quote: Originally Posted by She-Who-Is-Not-To-Be-Psycho! "Well, actually, if we don't get too offtrack, the idea is that the boy was representing one of the people who were part of the Order of Merlin, not the awarded person. Unless the awarded person is considered a member him or herself..." Diane said this while she flipped her textbook looking for answers, and found none which could relate to this subject for now. "In either case, where physical form is concerned..." Then she raised her head, "Well, since we are done playing with you -" she asked the Hufflepuff boy, big smile on her face, "would you mind telling us your reasoning for your answer? Just to satify our curiosity." "Though," she reasoned afterwards, tilting her head, "the thing they have in common may be, they all possess limbs and heads...?" ...Well, why not? Ethan listened to the discussion with interest, pleased to hear the two Slytherins holding their own. “Do remember that the volunteers are categorising the questions as yes, no or irrelevant based on their own ideas and experiences. It is interesting to note that in some situations what may be considered by the majority as irrelevant now, might have been a factor of classification in the past.” He paused thoughtfully. “In any case, it is certainly good practice to be debating such things and I do encourage it in my classroom. If there ever are any topics brought up that any of you wish to discuss, as long as you are discussing something history related, I do not mind at all.” Last edited by Con_Stripes; 07-05-2009 at 09:24 AM.