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Lissy Longbottom · 10-06-2022, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by FearlessLeader19

It was with great interest that Jude listened to everyone’s opinion. He respected all the reasonings, even the students’ who differed from his. He was surprised at the stance some of his friends - like Bella - took but for others, not at all. Even before Evan had stood up, Jude knew where the Ravenclaw would head. Keigh surprised him as well. Jude tried to catch his sister’s gaze to reassure her that he thought no different of her because of the side she had chosen. Overall, this portion of the lesson had proved to be interesting despite there being no right or wrong answers.

Indeed Jude had struggled to pick a side. It was why he said the potion is ‘immoral to use in general or in most situations’. It seemed that Hernandez was having the time of his life posing these sorts of questions to them. The Hufflepuff reflected on possible scenarios where using the Liquid Luck Potion would be justifiable. He was inclined to agree with Harry Potter using it on Slughorn since many lives were saved with the information extracted. Jude raised his hand. “When you’re in a life or death situation, such as being attacked by a werewolf.” Who wouldn’t want to get out of that?!

"That could certainly be a justifiable use," Javier agreed with a nod. "Although a little tricky, unless you're anticipating being in a dangerous place - taking the potion would certainly make things a lot safer for you," he explained. How often did people KNOW they were going to be facing death, though? It was hardly easy to predict, and it's not like you could down a vial of potion right before the werewolf pounced on you...but it was a good idea nonetheless!

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Originally Posted by Watson

This was an interesting exercise. She liked starting class with an invigorating debate especially one that she could play devil's advocate in.

Professor Hernandez called them back in after discussing the different perspectives and then offered a new question. What are scenarios where you feel it's NOT okay to use liquid luck or was she set in her beliefs?

Hmmmmm.............

There were guardrails.... Even for Lisa. Okay, a lot more limitations than she'd like to admit.

"Once scenario that I wouldn't use it for would be a test whether it be physical or mental... like a sports match or exam. I'd rather rely on my hard work and efforts to come to fruition," she explained. one didn't need shortcuts. She was also going to add the scenario of asking someone out but she didn't want to come across as overly confident. Being confident was a fine balance if you were too confident, then you were considered full of yourself.

"Very good Miss Nam," he responded with a nod to her answer. "Sporting events and exams already have rules in place prohibiting the use of Felix Felicis for obvious reasons. It is essentially cheating."

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Originally Posted by ArianaBlack

Kinsay didn't really understand the point of this entire debate. If the potion existed people would use it. That's how potions worked. Morality didn't really matter, see? That's why she was going to study fashion after graduation. Debates likes these were totally boring and had no point. She was so so so sure they wouldn't have silly classes like these in fashion school. ... No offense, Professor.

With that being said, she was totally and firmly on the 'not immoral' side of the classroom. It's not like taking a good luck potion guaranteed anything. It just meant you'd be a little luckier and, like, what's so wrong with that? Some people are just naturally lucky. Is THAT immoral? See? Didn't think so. Plus, if you thought of it and someone else didn't, how could they be mad? It'd be their fault for not thinking of it too. So.

It was more of a matter of jealousy than it was morality. And that's the story Kinsay James would stick to.

So this new question was kind of hard to answer. Kins wasn't even sure that she could come up with a defense for the other side at all. But then hearing Jude's answer gave her an idea and her hand shot into the air shortly after. Thanks, Jude. "Murder." You should have to do that the old-fashioned way.

That was...an answer, technically.

Not that Javier really understood where Kinsay was going with that. Did she mean to HELP someone murder? Or prevent a murder? He was going to go with the second one, simply because...he didn't want to ask WHY Kinsay thought of the first scenario. "Yes, to prevent a murder from being committed. Good idea, Miss James."

Yes, going with the second one.

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Originally Posted by Nordic Witch

Yes, Bella had struggled to pick a side. She could have as easily chosen the front as the back, but had decided to see where her Slytherinness would take her in this debate. It had probably surprised a few, mostly Jude and Apollo what side she had chosen, but they had to deal with it. It was just for a debate as a part of a lesson. Of course Prof Hernandez couldn't let the debate stop there. They now had to think like the other side. In what kind of situation did Bella NOT think it was okay to use liquid luck to get the result she wanted?

Raising her hand Bella said slowly. "It's not okay to use liquid luck when it comes to matters of the heart. I don't want a boy to say yes to a date with me or say that he ~~loves~~ likes me a lot if he doesn't really mean it deep down. " It'd be too crushing when the effects wore off and you realized that actually the boy disliked you.

"Another excellent answer," Javier said with a smile to Bella. "While not as...shall we say powerful as a love potion, it is indeed something that influences those around you, including their emotions."

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Originally Posted by Kolyander

The second she lifted her gaze from the floor her eyes met those of Jude's. Of all people she had to look directly at the one person she didn't want to at that very moment. Her heart ached at letting him down already and this discussion wasn't helping. Professor Hernandez did know that this was Potions class, right?

Debates weren't her thing. At all. She didn't like them. It was basically a form of confrontation to her and she disliked that a whole lot more. While the question was relatively easy, her answer probably wasn't what would be expected given the side she was standing on. "For me personally, everything. I wouldn't use it all. If I can't accomplish what I want to on my own then that's on me.." she gave her answer softly after raising her hand.

"That is perfectly alright," Javier assured her. "If you don't want any outside influence you certainly would never have to use it."

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Originally Posted by Freyr

"Thank you, Professor." said Luther distractedly as he was already thinking about the new question. 'What would be a universal no-no?' thought Luther. A couple of minutes passed. Each minute brought a scenario where it looked like a real act of evil to use Felix Felicis. However, the next second his mind presented Luther with a situational justification for the act. He didn't even notice that he untied his hair tie and started playing with it.

After a couple of more minutes, Luther gave up and raised his hand. Then he continued saying "Professor, I believe that any situation that looks like it is unethical to use it might have an ethical justification behind it. However, killing or damaging in any way an innocent human for anything but one's own dire need, I mean like stealing food for your child, is probably where I would draw the line." Then Luther looked around to see what other students' and the Professor's reactions to his answer as he noticed his hair was falling in front of his eyes. Then his gaze turned to his glowing hands playing with the ribbon. He sighed and slowly dimmed the glow as he tied his hair again.

A very Gryffindor answer of Luther...Javier smiled at him and nodded. "Good answer. Any situation where you wish to do harm to someone would obviously be a misuse of this potion."

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Originally Posted by MadMadamMalfoy

Actually, no. Desiree hadn’t struggled to pick a side at all. There were plenty of reasons to use Felix Felicis that weren’t unethical, like stopping a dark wizard or not turning into a beast in front of the whole school, for example! Speaking of which, could they please get on with it?! She could turn into a wombat at any moment, and she’d like to get to the potion brewing before that happened, thank you very much!

She was practically on the edge of her seat, waiting for the next set of instructions, and… Her face fell slightly when the professor asked another question. Asdfjkl!!! Why couldn’t this wait until the end?! Her mind raced, frantically searching for an answer. The sooner she answered, the sooner she could start brewing and hopefully get some potion to take with her to stop the teddy rat transformations!

She’d kind of already answered this question with her reasoning for the last one. Unsurprisingly, using Felix Felicis for a test was one of the first things said. Then her thoughts turned to using the potion to influence someone else’s free will for selfish reasons, like getting someone to date you, but that was said too. Ugh! What else could she say? Maybe there was another example of influencing someone’s free will that she could use. Then it came to her, and her hand shot up. “Blackmail, Professor,” she said. “It’s not okay to use the potion to gain information that you plan to use to harm someone’s reputation.”

"Ah, interesting perspective," Javier said in response to Desiree's answer. "Yes, that would be misuse of the potion for sure!" And also probably illegal in most places.

"Alright, alright, I know you're all probably ready to get to the actual BREWING portion of the lesson so please return to your seats," Javier said with a smile, clapping his hands together to signal that it was time to sit down. "The point of this - of ALL of this - is to once again show that sometimes, you have to think about the consequences of using the potions we brew here. Especially something as powerful as Felix Felicis."

"One more question before we get to the brewing. This potion is extremely difficult to brew correctly - not only due to the ingredients, but as a deterrent for anyone who might want to use it for nefarious purposes," he explained.

"What do you need to be careful of when brewing Felix Felicis or using the potion? Are there any limits to its power?" he asked them. There were a few things they needed to be careful of - with both brewing and using the potion - that could cause disastrous consequences if they weren't careful!

OOC: Don't worry guys, brewing is coming up!

You'll have about 24 hours to answer before we move on to the main activity. As always let us know if you have any questions!

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Lissy Longbottom Potterdom Mod Book Club Mod Giant Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ferrix: GMT-6 Posts: 56,908 Hogwarts RPG Name: Moritz Schultz (#0f667e) Ravenclaw Seventh Year Hogwarts RPG Name: Nancy Schultz (#ac6f77) Hufflepuff Fourth Year x11 x1	curly haired prefect - "sometimes I get angry!" - 30/90 - chicken emoji - probably @ Disney - I speak dog Quote: Originally Posted by FearlessLeader19 It was with great interest that Jude listened to everyone’s opinion. He respected all the reasonings, even the students’ who differed from his. He was surprised at the stance some of his friends - like Bella - took but for others, not at all. Even before Evan had stood up, Jude knew where the Ravenclaw would head. Keigh surprised him as well. Jude tried to catch his sister’s gaze to reassure her that he thought no different of her because of the side she had chosen. Overall, this portion of the lesson had proved to be interesting despite there being no right or wrong answers. Indeed Jude had struggled to pick a side. It was why he said the potion is ‘immoral to use in general or in most situations’. It seemed that Hernandez was having the time of his life posing these sorts of questions to them. The Hufflepuff reflected on possible scenarios where using the Liquid Luck Potion would be justifiable. He was inclined to agree with Harry Potter using it on Slughorn since many lives were saved with the information extracted. Jude raised his hand. “When you’re in a life or death situation, such as being attacked by a werewolf.” Who wouldn’t want to get out of that?! "That could certainly be a justifiable use," Javier agreed with a nod. "Although a little tricky, unless you're anticipating being in a dangerous place - taking the potion would certainly make things a lot safer for you," he explained. How often did people KNOW they were going to be facing death, though? It was hardly easy to predict, and it's not like you could down a vial of potion right before the werewolf pounced on you...but it was a good idea nonetheless! Quote: Originally Posted by Watson This was an interesting exercise. She liked starting class with an invigorating debate especially one that she could play devil's advocate in. Professor Hernandez called them back in after discussing the different perspectives and then offered a new question. What are scenarios where you feel it's NOT okay to use liquid luck or was she set in her beliefs? Hmmmmm............. There were guardrails.... Even for Lisa. Okay, a lot more limitations than she'd like to admit. "Once scenario that I wouldn't use it for would be a test whether it be physical or mental... like a sports match or exam. I'd rather rely on my hard work and efforts to come to fruition," she explained. one didn't need shortcuts. She was also going to add the scenario of asking someone out but she didn't want to come across as overly confident. Being confident was a fine balance if you were too confident, then you were considered full of yourself. "Very good Miss Nam," he responded with a nod to her answer. "Sporting events and exams already have rules in place prohibiting the use of Felix Felicis for obvious reasons. It is essentially cheating." Quote: Originally Posted by ArianaBlack Kinsay didn't really understand the point of this entire debate. If the potion existed people would use it. That's how potions worked. Morality didn't really matter, see? That's why she was going to study fashion after graduation. Debates likes these were totally boring and had no point. She was so so so sure they wouldn't have silly classes like these in fashion school. ... No offense, Professor. With that being said, she was totally and firmly on the 'not immoral' side of the classroom. It's not like taking a good luck potion guaranteed anything. It just meant you'd be a little luckier and, like, what's so wrong with that? Some people are just naturally lucky. Is THAT immoral? See? Didn't think so. Plus, if you thought of it and someone else didn't, how could they be mad? It'd be their fault for not thinking of it too. So. It was more of a matter of jealousy than it was morality. And that's the story Kinsay James would stick to. So this new question was kind of hard to answer. Kins wasn't even sure that she could come up with a defense for the other side at all. But then hearing Jude's answer gave her an idea and her hand shot into the air shortly after. Thanks, Jude. "Murder." You should have to do that the old-fashioned way. That was...an answer, technically. Not that Javier really understood where Kinsay was going with that. Did she mean to HELP someone murder? Or prevent a murder? He was going to go with the second one, simply because...he didn't want to ask WHY Kinsay thought of the first scenario. "Yes, to prevent a murder from being committed. Good idea, Miss James." Yes, going with the second one. Quote: Originally Posted by Nordic Witch Yes, Bella had struggled to pick a side. She could have as easily chosen the front as the back, but had decided to see where her Slytherinness would take her in this debate. It had probably surprised a few, mostly Jude and Apollo what side she had chosen, but they had to deal with it. It was just for a debate as a part of a lesson. Of course Prof Hernandez couldn't let the debate stop there. They now had to think like the other side. In what kind of situation did Bella NOT think it was okay to use liquid luck to get the result she wanted? Raising her hand Bella said slowly. "It's not okay to use liquid luck when it comes to matters of the heart. I don't want a boy to say yes to a date with me or say that he ~~loves~~ likes me a lot if he doesn't really mean it deep down. " It'd be too crushing when the effects wore off and you realized that actually the boy disliked you. "Another excellent answer," Javier said with a smile to Bella. "While not as...shall we say powerful as a love potion, it is indeed something that influences those around you, including their emotions." Quote: Originally Posted by Kolyander The second she lifted her gaze from the floor her eyes met those of Jude's. Of all people she had to look directly at the one person she didn't want to at that very moment. Her heart ached at letting him down already and this discussion wasn't helping. Professor Hernandez did know that this was Potions class, right? Debates weren't her thing. At all. She didn't like them. It was basically a form of confrontation to her and she disliked that a whole lot more. While the question was relatively easy, her answer probably wasn't what would be expected given the side she was standing on. "For me personally, everything. I wouldn't use it all. If I can't accomplish what I want to on my own then that's on me.." she gave her answer softly after raising her hand. "That is perfectly alright," Javier assured her. "If you don't want any outside influence you certainly would never have to use it." Quote: Originally Posted by Freyr "Thank you, Professor." said Luther distractedly as he was already thinking about the new question. 'What would be a universal no-no?' thought Luther. A couple of minutes passed. Each minute brought a scenario where it looked like a real act of evil to use Felix Felicis. However, the next second his mind presented Luther with a situational justification for the act. He didn't even notice that he untied his hair tie and started playing with it. After a couple of more minutes, Luther gave up and raised his hand. Then he continued saying "Professor, I believe that any situation that looks like it is unethical to use it might have an ethical justification behind it. However, killing or damaging in any way an innocent human for anything but one's own dire need, I mean like stealing food for your child, is probably where I would draw the line." Then Luther looked around to see what other students' and the Professor's reactions to his answer as he noticed his hair was falling in front of his eyes. Then his gaze turned to his glowing hands playing with the ribbon. He sighed and slowly dimmed the glow as he tied his hair again. A very Gryffindor answer of Luther...Javier smiled at him and nodded. "Good answer. Any situation where you wish to do harm to someone would obviously be a misuse of this potion." Quote: Originally Posted by MadMadamMalfoy Actually, no. Desiree hadn’t struggled to pick a side at all. There were plenty of reasons to use Felix Felicis that weren’t unethical, like stopping a dark wizard or not turning into a beast in front of the whole school, for example! Speaking of which, could they please get on with it?! She could turn into a wombat at any moment, and she’d like to get to the potion brewing before that happened, thank you very much! She was practically on the edge of her seat, waiting for the next set of instructions, and… Her face fell slightly when the professor asked another question. Asdfjkl!!! Why couldn’t this wait until the end?! Her mind raced, frantically searching for an answer. The sooner she answered, the sooner she could start brewing and hopefully get some potion to take with her to stop the teddy rat transformations! She’d kind of already answered this question with her reasoning for the last one. Unsurprisingly, using Felix Felicis for a test was one of the first things said. Then her thoughts turned to using the potion to influence someone else’s free will for selfish reasons, like getting someone to date you, but that was said too. Ugh! What else could she say? Maybe there was another example of influencing someone’s free will that she could use. Then it came to her, and her hand shot up. “Blackmail, Professor,” she said. “It’s not okay to use the potion to gain information that you plan to use to harm someone’s reputation.” "Ah, interesting perspective," Javier said in response to Desiree's answer. "Yes, that would be misuse of the potion for sure!" And also probably illegal in most places. "Alright, alright, I know you're all probably ready to get to the actual BREWING portion of the lesson so please return to your seats," Javier said with a smile, clapping his hands together to signal that it was time to sit down. "The point of this - of ALL of this - is to once again show that sometimes, you have to think about the consequences of using the potions we brew here. Especially something as powerful as Felix Felicis." "One more question before we get to the brewing. This potion is extremely difficult to brew correctly - not only due to the ingredients, but as a deterrent for anyone who might want to use it for nefarious purposes," he explained. "What do you need to be careful of when brewing Felix Felicis or using the potion? Are there any limits to its power?" he asked them. There were a few things they needed to be careful of - with both brewing and using the potion - that could cause disastrous consequences if they weren't careful! OOC: Don't worry guys, brewing is coming up! You'll have about 24 hours to answer before we move on to the main activity. As always let us know if you have any questions! __________________ I'm still standin'________________________________________ better than I ever did Lookin' like a true survivor_________________________________feelin' like a little kid Last edited by Lissy Longbottom; 10-06-2022 at 03:25 PM.