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Hogwarts RPG Name: ??? Ravenclaw Hogwarts RPG Name: Ronnie Thurkell Gryffindor Seventh Year x12 x12
| lives in a hobbit hole || Ern and Touz's Nuzzle || roflysst || looking at a seed packet SPOILER!!: oh its Erik ok Quote:
Originally Posted by oh its Erik ok Oh circe, Eloise didn't think she would be walking around and would look at her notes. Since there were a million other kids in here. She looked her well terrible notes and up and Professor Beryl. "Yeeeeah, that's the hard part. I was thinking mannaz for sociable because it being about relationships and being about social concerns and stuff. Easy for that one. Maybe Laguz for perceptive because of intuition and revealing and all that. Hmm....and Jera for the last one because you need to be bold to bring change i think...maybe...i don't know."
She explained writing them down anyway. At least she talked herself into some answers. Doesn't knows if they are right or there is a right answer. "I think you know more than you realise, Miss Fairfield. Trust your intuition. Mannaz and Laguz are particularly good associations. I am glad you are thinking outside of the box as that is the purpose of this exercise -to allow your intuition to guide your understanding- but in this case I would say perhaps rather than Jera you might choose the courage and tenacity associated with Uruz, or the self-reliance and willpower of Nauthiz as a closer association to that boldness trait. If you take those two runes out of your rune set and hold each in your hand, see which one feels more right for you." Professor Beryl said, encouragingly. SPOILER!!: PhoenixRising Quote:
Originally Posted by PhoenixRising Working hard or hardly working? Maeve wasn't one for Runes but she was a fan of giving the illusion of working hard as it made lessons pass quicker. Not to mention kept her from having to waste precious time staying AFTER lessons, because extra work? No thank you. Glancing up at the Professor, she smiled when she agreed on the Kenaz association; oh good, she was on the right track. Or hardly was what she wanted to respond but she wasn't sure how Professor Beryl would appreciate the sarcasm and thus she simply nodded. "It's a fairly obvious one," she said, about Kenaz.
And then looked over to Patrick. Ah right, they were the same type. She passed her parchment over to him to have a look. "Seems like we both came up with Kenaz." She grinned. "Uruz and Ehwaz, I guess. I'm not sure about enthusiastic what to associate that with but oooh... isn't there one for joy or something???" BIG QUESTION MARK here. "There is one for joy." Carmine agreed with a hint of a smile, watching the girl slide her parchment over to Mr Dooley to discuss their work, "I'm sure you can find it in your dictionary if you look closely. There are also Ansuz and Thurisaz which represent two different aspects of enthusiasm." Carmine summoned one of the extra resource books to her hand, and lay it in front of the girl. It was a well-thumbed volume, and she felt it might be particularly useful for this particular search for meaning.
"I suggest you compare all the meanings with those in your own rune dictionary, then pull each rune from your rune set and hold them in your hand one at a time, focus on the meaning and trust your intuition about which feels most right." She was sure Miss Walsh had enough presence of mind to make a choice between these three. SPOILER!!: emjay Quote:
Originally Posted by emjay Professor Beryl. Gunnar tried to commit that to memory by repeating it a couple times in his head. He knew he'd learn it soon enough, but might as well get that bit out of the way so he could focus on a class he actually liked.
But he still remained unsure about how this Myers Briggs and random letters and psychological preferences in world perception had to do with the Elder Futhark, even after the explanation bit. Though, he'd come to realize that different teachers definitely had their different methods.
The fifteen year old read over the handout, writing out his relevant parts in his notes. And once he read over what pertained to him, he could agree that much of it sounded like him. SPOILER!!: Gunnar's Notes Gunnar McCarthy
5th year, Slytherin ISTJ Introversion (I)
Introverts are "inward-turning" and tend to be thought-oriented, enjoy deep and meaningful social interactions, and feel recharged after spending time alone. Sensing (S)
People who prefer sensing tend to pay a great deal of attention to reality, particularly to what they can learn from their own senses. They tend to focus on facts and details and enjoy getting hands-on experience. Thinking (T)
People who prefer thinking place a greater emphasis on facts and objective data. They tend to be consistent, logical, and impersonal when weighing a decision. Judging (J)
Those who lean toward judging prefer structure and firm decisions. Traits of ISTJ
Reserved, Realistic, Logical, Orderly, Controlled, Practical, Objective, Responsible, Self-motivated, Detail-Oriented, Pragmatic, Methodical, Deliberate, Traditional, Levelheaded, Hardworking.
So which of the traits related most to him and what runes could be associated with them? Gunnar took a moment to allow his eyes to skim the list of traits again before choosing five - Reserved, Controlled, Pragmatic, Deliberate, and Hardworking. He jotted those down in his notes and then consulted his textbook to find some relevant runes.
That.... really took a while for Gunnar to work his way through the textbook and examine the different meanings for each rune and associate them with his personality traits. He was happy with them for the most part, though he remained unsure about using Kenaz for the 'controlled' trait. Even though controlled energy was listed, he wasn't so sure the rest of the meanings for Kenaz really fit. And, he really felt like Teiwaz should fit within his personality trait set given all of its meaning, but where? Hmm. He pulled that rune out of his bag and turned it over and over in his hand as he looked over his notes again and considered things. Mr McCarthy. Siblings with Miss McCarthy? Carmine looked back toward the young blonde girl she'd been working with not so long ago. Yes they had to be siblings, the connection was unmistakable. "I'm glad to see you taking a hands on approach, Mr McCarthy." With handling his runes to help aid his insight, which by his notes she could see was already substantial. Perhaps he was a natural in this topic? She smiled encouragingly. SPOILER!!: Lissy Longbottom Quote:
Originally Posted by Lissy Longbottom The more Nettie thought about her result, the more she was certain that the boot had made some sort of mistake. Maybe Nettie in her first year was more of a commander but...a natural born leader? Ruthless level of rationality? She was the exact OPPOSITE of rational. But it also said she was determined, and ruthless in her pursuit of success...that seemed pretty accurate. It was one of the reasons the hat had ALMOST put her in Slytherin, if she remembered correctly. She was also extroverted which was definitely true. Sometimes a little TOO much so.
Taking out her parchment, she bit her lip for a moment as she thought about which runes she thought fit well with her sorting. After some time, she scribbled down some thoughts on her parchment. Another one working hard. Carmine rather thought that young Miss Gladin had a specific thinking face and she seemed to be employing it quite handily in that moment. She was almost loathe to disturb her processing. "How are you getting on, Miss Gladin?" SPOILER!!: sweetpinkpixie Quote:
Originally Posted by sweetpinkpixie This was...tedious. And not entirely in a good way either but he had started it and it would drive him insane if he did not finish it...and he had to give it an honest effort because he never did any school work at half speed. Well...usually at least.
Probably was that he was a bit too literal with this, at least when t came to himself, and it was taking him an embarrassingly long time trying to find a rune he felt made an appropriate fit for 'hardworking'. At first when he was reviewing Fehu he considered it an option, but that was more the manifestation of hard work, the result, and not so much in the moment. Same with Jera. Though...Uruz didn't seem so bad. It was the untamed potential that convinced him for the most part. Maybe. He would just roll with that for now...and then assigned Eihwaz to 'realism' because of its connotations with honesty, reliability, and trustworthiness. Was how he felt realism could be interpreted....but scanning down the page again reminded him of Tiwaz's existence and he felt that even more appropriate - analysis and rationality, obviously. For the traits meant to be weaknesses, he exclusively looked at the merkstave meaning of each rune and felt...somewhat confident in his selection.
This had been remarkably easier to do for Missa than it had for himself.
Rubbing his face a moment, hoping to soothe the annoyance from his brow, Eiji glanced over at Missa again when she asked him to look things over. "Looks...okay," he nodded, though he paused at her 'over thinking option'. "I think you should at Tiwaz in merkstave. It can mean creative flows are blocked, mental paralysis, and over-analysis. You have one that represents a rune for the solution for your weakness," he smiled encouragingly. "Already thinking ahead."
Smirking affectionately, his attention was drawn to Professor Beryl as she made her way around observing everyone's work. "Getting on fine, professor."
Probably. He was far more confident in his girlfriend's work than he was his own. "Glad to hear it." He did seem to be industriously working through the task, and helping Miss Renaldi and bouncing ideas around together, which Carmine approved of very much. SPOILER!!: Govoni Quote:
Originally Posted by Govoni Aaron grinned at the professor, just realizing that he hadn't actually greeted her. "Sorry about that, Professor. I hope your morning has been wonderful so far." Manners, see? He had those!
.... Pressing his lips together, the Hufflepuff accepted one of the handouts and quickly began reading over it. He was still listening, obviously, jotting down the occasional bit of wisdom. This was a lesson unlike any previous Runes class he'd ever sat through, if not a bit ingenious. Personality types were interesting all on their own, but throwing in the runes aspect seemed to breathe new life into his favorite subject. He'd never heard of this being done.
After a bit, he stood to peruse the collected Runes texts, wanting to cross-reference his work (since he was setting an example now, or something). And it surprised him that a couple were written by his late grandfather... It was a no-brainer to select those, and a happy, contented feeling blossomed in his chest. In fact, he beamed the entire way back to his seat; planning to waste no time in getting started.
For many silent moments, Aaron wrote, erased, crossed out, rewrote, and questioned each of his own answers. He'd read a passage from one book, check it in another, change his mind, rewrite his original answer again... He was eventually forced to turn to a fresh sheet in his journal with a distressed huff, studiously rewriting the entire page.
No complaints, though. It was nice to be challenged in this way! The sixth year really had to consider each answer... SPOILER!!: Parchment! Aaron Botros
Hufflepuff, Sixth Year ENFP (-T): The Compaigner Enthusiastic, Creative, Passionate, Open-minded, Gregarious, Imaginative, Empathetic, Spontaneous, Sociable, Unconventional, Supportive, Adaptable, Expressive, Forward-thinking, Warm, Whimsical. ADDITIONAL: Transformative, Excitable, Impulsive, Naive, Obsessive, Selfaware
_____ Enthusiastic: Thurisaz, Ansuz THURISAZ: Enthusiasm, self-empowerment, chaos, active defensive force, breaker of resistance, and destructive storms. ANSUZ: A revealing message or insight, communication. Signals, inspiration, enthusiasm, speech, true vision, power of words and naming. Blessings, the taking of advice. Good health, harmony, truth, wisdom. Passionate: Kenaz, Uruz KENAZ: Vision, revelation, knowledge, creativity, inspiration, technical ability. Vital fire of life, harnessed power, fire of transformation and regeneration. Power to create your own reality, the power of light. Open to new strength, energy, and power now. Passion. URUZ: [1] Uruz is the rune of the inner-King and inner-Queen. We can assert our right to exist and be free in the very same primal authority that the aurochs did theirs. It is the will to live passionate and free. [2] energy, passion, vitality, instinct, wildness, the unconscious, primitive mind, irrationality, shamanic experience, rite of passage. Sociable: Fehu, Mannaz FEHU: [1] New beginnings, social success, foresight, energy, travel, money, control. [2] Promotion of personal and social evolution. Mannaz: [1] Significator, self, family, community, relationships, social concerns. [2] To represent a specific person or group of people; to establish social relationships. Unconventional: Ingwaz, Berkano INGWAZ: Rune of isolation or separation in order to create a space or place where the process of transformation into higher states of being can occur. BERKANO: Rune of continued growth and continual rebirth or renewal in all things. The rune of becoming. Supportive: Gebo, Wunjo GEBO: Love and partnership. Forgiveness, gift, skill, ability or talent. WUNJO: joy, perfection, the art of correct wishing, correct application of the will, well-being, contentment, hope, expectation, relationship, family, bonding, trusted kinsfolk, shared ideals or aims, group harmony, symbols of shared identity, optimism, cooperative effort, like-mindedness, friendship
It took about 20 minutes with his head down, to finally complete it... "Professor?" Her morning had been lovely. And it was still lovely, given her class was so well-behaved and working so well at this first task. Young Mr Botros certainly seemed to be working hard, she hadn't wanted to disturb him given how intently he seemed to be focusing, but when he spoke up she made her way over to his desk.
The Botros connection had also not escaped her, if this young man was indeed related to that esteemed professor, who was a premiere name in the discipline of Ancient Runes with an impact that Carmine expected would last through several lifetimes and beyond. "Yes, Mr Botros?" SPOILER!!: MadMadamMalfoy Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMadamMalfoy Tina nodded in reply as Professor Beryl answered her question. Oh, okay… she guessed it made sense that the boot would need the motion of hopping to wake it up, though the answer raised another question in her mind. Why didn't the sorting hat, which was most likely older than that boot, also need a jarring motion such as hopping to wake it up? Had a different type of magic been used to create it? She was tempted to ask but decided against it so as not to get too off track. She could always ask later or try to look up the answer on her own.
She picked up her quill, poised to take notes as Professor Beryl started speaking. So they weren't going to use runes to give an object sentience? That was a shame, though Tina had to admit she found the whole MBTI personality types concept interesting… even if she didn't see what it had to do with Ancient Runes. Oh, so that's how the subjects related? The more she listened to the professor's explanation, the more sense it made. In fact, this activity sounded pretty fun - much more so than the usual memorizing ridiculously long and complicated galdrs!
Tina looked over her handout, paying special attention to the traits listed under her personality type. Thoughtful, organized, reserved… that sounded like her. She wasn't sure about the innovative or forward-thinking part, though. She copied the traits on the handout onto her parchment underneath her name and personality type. Now came the task of whittling the list down to 3-5 traits to work with.
In the end, Tina decided to go with the five traits she felt applied to her most. Then she went to retrieve one of the books from the front so she could cross reference and add additional information to her list as needed. Now came the hard part: finding the right runes to represent the traits. As she pored over her runes textbook, Tina found quite a few possibilities for the first trait on her list. Of course, the most obvious representation for “determined” was Nauthiz - it even had that exact word listed in the association! But upon further reading, Tina thought that might be a better choice for “independent” as it also represented self-reliance and self initiated change. She decided to list Nauthiz under independent because it was the only rune she thought could possibly fit there and went with Uruz for determination. The rune represented strength, tenacity, and action… all things Tina associated with determination.
After writing down the runes and a couple of notes explaining the reasoning behind her choices, Tina looked over her list of traits again. The next one was “imaginative”. She knew just what to do for that one! Kenaz represented the power to create one's own reality, and that was basically what imagination was, right? There was also the associations with vision, inspiration, and creativity, which sort of went along with imagination… or at least they did in Tina's mind. Using her imagination always made her feel more inspired and creative. She smiled to herself, thinking back to Flamel's lesson on Kenaz and Isa. Maybe the associations with vision and creativity were the reason she had an easy time with Kenaz last term?
The next trait on Tina's list was a lot harder to match. After reading and re-reading over her textbook, she went with Isa to represent “reserved” due to its association with turning inward. It was probably a bit of a stretch, but at least in Tina's opinion, being reserved meant turning inward on oneself. Of all the runes on her list, this was the association she felt least confident about, but none of the others in her book seemed to even remotely fit the trait. Maybe she should've chosen something a little easier to interpret, even if it wasn't a trait she personally connected with.
As Tina was busy second guessing her interpretation, she overheard Professor Beryl say they only had five minutes left. Ugh, there wasn't time to go back and change her answer. She had to move on to her last trait - and fast! Luckily this one was a little easier to match. In her textbook, she found a couple of runes that could represent “organized”, but she thought Dagaz would be the best fit. Organization gave her the security and certainty, two associations with Dagaz, that she needed to function, and the association of clarity fit with Tina's mindset in an organized state. Once she'd finished writing her final rune choice and the reasoning behind it, Tina set down her quill and awaited further instructions. Text Cut: Tina's findings INTJ
Thoughtful, Innovative, Analytical, Organized, Reserved, Forward-thinking, Objective, Determined, Independent, Imaginative, Rational, Dedicated, Focused, Theoretical, Tough-minded, Decisive. Determined - Uruz (represents strength, tenacity, and action. Determination involves taking action and requires strength and tenacity in the face of setbacks) Independent - Nauthiz (represents self reliance and self-initiated change. Self-reliance and self-initiated change are a big part of independence.) Imaginative - Kenaz (represents vision, inspiration, creativity/power to create one's own reality. Imagination is essentially the power to create one's own reality and can be used as a tool to foster inspiration and creativity.) Reserved - Isa? (represents turning inward, and one could argue that being reserved means turning inward) Organized - Dagaz (represents daylight clarity, security and certainty. Organization brings about security and certainty, and I feel a sense of mental clarity when things are organized)
Miss Dantes was another who had been working industriously during the activity, and Carmine made sure to work her way back around to the girl when she had put her quill down.
She took a quick look over her work and smiled with pleasure. "Well done, Miss Dantes. You seem to have an innate understanding of the task and how to make these intuitive leaps in meaning associations. Lets keep stretching that intuition muscle as you grow along your rune journey." It was clear she had put a lot of thought into her work thusfar. "I think you are right to question the rune Isa, but more importantly, if it does not feel a comfortable choice for you, you need to trust your intuition." She tapped that section of the girl's parchment and gave her an encouraging smile. "You can certainly think on it and come back to it later." Quote:
Originally Posted by Jean Granger Jade looked up as Professor Beryl paused by her desk and looked at her work. “Joyce, Professor. Jade Joyce,” she replied, pointing at the top of her parchment where she had written her name. “Well, I got my three keywords and the corresponding runes, but I’m not sure how well the runes match my personality. In particular, I guess you could argue that associating Tiwaz with ‘stubborn’ is a bit of a stretch.” "Miss Joyce." Carmine said, committing the girl's name to memory then listening as she spoke. "I think you're right in that assessment. I would choose either Thurisaz or Uruz. Thurisaz when reversed or merkstave can have a meaning of stubbornness, and Uruz is the ox rune.... have you heard the phrase 'stubborn as an ox'? How about 'bull-headed?'" Carmine suggested, then tapped the girl's paper. "Be sure to elaborate on your answers to explain why you picked them so that when you return to it later you can follow your own understanding."
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Carmine made her way back to the front of the class, quite satisfied with the work she'd seen so far. "Alright everyone, thank you for your efforts so far. Its hard work stretching that intuition muscle! Have your quills ready please, and take notes." She gave them a moment to prepare themselves and then wrote on the blackboard: "Runic Correlations". "As you have all seen, the runes in the Elder Futhark have meaning. Some of you are familiar with invoking the magic of individual runes to perform some task or another, but the runes have another application known as runecasting. Runecasting is a form of symbolic magic. Runes can be cast to find answers to questions and to gain an understanding of a given situation and where one is on that path. Runecasting is not divination." She paused to write that on the board (leaving a space for something else to go above it) and then underlined it for emphasis. Important. "It couples the subconscious and the magical ability of a witch or wizard to examine cause and effect, and indicate a likely outcome or deeper understanding. You may say instead, that runecasting situational assessment tool, where different spreads are the ‘tools’ for different assessment ‘jobs’." Professor Carmine said, looking around at the class to take note of who was paying attention. "Questions asked of the runes can be employed as a way of reflecting upon the self at a moment in time, just as sorting and categorizing via personality assessments like the MBTI can be a way to reflect upon the self holistically." That was one connection between the two, but not the purpose of today's lesson. "More importantly for today's purposes, many disciplines which feature symbols that are representative of meaning in this manner can be correlated to the Elder Futhark. When runecasting there is a need for intuitive interpretation of any given rune. It is important that you don't limit yourself only to meanings given in one rune dictionary or another or be too literal in your interpretations." She paused for the slower notetakers to catch up. "The process of drawing correlations of rune meanings with other interpretive systems prime us for applying our intuition to runecasting." Which WAS the purpose of today's lesson, as they would be working on runecasting later in the term. "There are various runic correlations -also known as rune correspondences- worth considering. Other than the MBTI, I want you to think about other systems that might have a correspondence with runes in relation to meaning." She said, pausing and looking around the room. "What rune correspondences do you know about? What other interpretive, or symbol=meaning systems have you come across that you think could be correlated with runes?" Quote:
Originally Posted by The Blackboard Runic Correlations
The process of drawing correlations of rune meanings with other interpretive systems prime us for applying our intuition to runecasting. Runecasting is not Divination- Runecasting is a form of symbolic magic
- Runes can be cast to find answers to questions and to gain an understanding of a given situation and where one is on that path.
- It couples the subconscious and the magical ability of a witch or wizard to examine cause and effect, and indicate a likely outcome or deeper understanding.
ooc: Whew! The mini activity portion is over. You CAN still respond to my posts and to each other if you haven't yet, for as long as we are still in the question section of the class (which is now!). When the main activity begins you'll no longer be able to catch up on the mini activity in the interest of clarity.
You have approximately 24 hours (but not less!) to have your character answer this question (Name rune correspondences). Please give only ONE answer! protip: if you can't think of any new answers and Google doesn't help you out, you can have your character agree with/elaborate on someone else's response.
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