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Originally Posted by Ginevra Daisy was now standing in front of a third door, carefully reading and re-reading the piece of parchment in front of her. This latest scenario was stumping her a bit. There were a couple of answers that she immediately eliminated in her mind. She pointed her wand at "None of the above" and hoped that nothing disastrous would happen to her. Quote:
Originally Posted by ArianaBlack Zoryn watched as Dorian dried himself off and decided to do the same. Maybe being stuck on the same level with a nerd wasn't terrible after all. He provided good cover from the wet. And also good ideas to get rid of the wet.
Ugh.
BUT HER HAIR.
Noble would rue this. If he thought she was a pain in the butt before just wait until she.... UGH ANOTHER QUESTION????? This was TORTURE.
Zoryn read over all of the answers, informed consent. Meaning they know and they say yes. Right? Right. Okay then blah blah blah, she picked none of the above. This was dumb. Could they leave now? She needed to fix her hair. Quote:
Originally Posted by ElixirofLove That was a click! The click of a lock! Abra raised both arms in victory for just a moment, and then headed on through the door, hoping very much that he would find himself inside the actual classroom. But it was not to be. Another door. Another parchment. More reading. Sigh.
More reading, more squinting, more eye strain, more headaches. Abra hated this. He loathed and detested it. He would rather completely ruin a potion rather than do this, but there wasn't exactly much choice. He read through the parchment twice yet again, because he'd misread so much the first go through that by the time he'd corrected himself and moved on, he couldn't remember the rest of it. The second time was slightly more successful.
Now for the actual answer. At first, Abra had been drawn to the option about making sure someone understood the potion and the risks and everything, but the 'putting it in their drink' thing sounded like the person wouldn't know they were drinking it, so he discounted that. None of the other options really touched upon the 'informed' part, so he counted all of those out too. The answer Abra thought he might have tapped - something along the lines of 'Making sure your friend fully understands what the potion is and does, including any risks, before they agree to taking it' - wasn't up there, and the closest one ('getting your friend to say yes') didn't, in Abra's mind, cover all the bases of informed consent... which really only left the last option.
Making up his mind (which now ached... could minds ache? because his ached), he tapped 'None of the above'. Quote:
Originally Posted by sweetheartpleasepickme So far...so good? Derf felt a very real pressure with all these questions - and not just because the rooms were becoming progressively smaller. He knew that he, well, he had this moral soapbox that he stood on with these subjects...and it would just give way to ridicule should he answer something wrong, you know?
So as he approached the parchment on door number three, his mind was working into over drive and really really REALLY reading things carefully. The first option was an obvious no, so he was easily able to dismiss this half asleep notion. "Making sure your friend fully understands what the potion is and does, including any risks, before putting in their drink..." he read aloud to himself while scratching his head roughly enough to pull some more of his hair out. He nearly tapped this one with his wand, because it covered all bases...on a first read. But here was the catch...there was nothing about this friend saying yes and giving permission for the potion to be put into the drink. Thus, his wand lowered and he read the next option. Allergies had nothing to do with consent, though it was a kind safety thought, so he passed over that one in favor of the next. The next one...getting was curious wording and not, well, it didn't sound promising so he did not tap this one either.
That left him with the final option, none of the above.
Apprehensively, Derf raised his wand and gave it a firm tap. Quote:
Originally Posted by Cassirin Chloe had the worst rash of her life, an itchy and raw patch that had fur now, and here the professor was inflicting her with boils. BOILS? She considered crying, honestly, since it was all a bit much. This rash was unrelenting and had been for months now. But sure, add some boils. Cool.
She was never too proud to cry, but it wasn't the moment, and Chloe instead reread the question with a squared jaw. Trick question. Mean professor. What a turkey. She jabbed the final answer with her wand. None of the above. They were missing consent of the person being polyjuiced, at the very minimum. Quote:
Originally Posted by MadlyInLoveWithMalfoy Tina stepped through the second door to find… another door, what a shock. She sighed exasperatedly. This maze was so - for lack of a better word - extra! Honestly, what was so wrong with having a normal pop quiz with quills and parchment? Surely that would teach the same lesson about ethics, minus all the uncertainty and frustration.
As she approached the door, her eyes fell to the little Gryffindor (Cordelia) on the floor. Ugh, this had gone too far! Not only was this door maze annoying and unnecessary, but now it was clearly frightening people. Tina felt sorry for the girl; she reminded her of the small children back at Chateau Croyance. See? She may be standoffish, but she wasn't heartless. She gave the girl a sympathetic look. Was there something she could do? She wasn't very good with emotions, her own or other people's, and some people had a tendency to lash out when they were upset. That and it looked like one of her housemates (Indigo) was already helping her. He had this, right? She was going to stay out of it for now, but she was here to help if things went south.
For the time being, Tina turned her attention to the question on the door. Hmm… asking while your friend is half asleep, obviously incorrect. Checking if your friend is allergic before giving them the potion… closer, but there was more to it than that. Getting your friend to say yes? That seemed like a trick answer. Permission was important, but they needed to know what they were agreeing to. None of the above seemed like an obvious trick, so that left making sure your friend fully understands what the potion is and does, including any risks, before putting in their drink.
Tina was about to tap that answer when out of the corner of her eye, she saw the boils on Chloe's hand. “What happened to your hand?” she asked before she could stop herself. “Did-?” Her eyes darted from the Head Girl to the door and back, and she gasped as understanding dawned on her. “The doors are rigged to punish you for making a mistake…” And she had a feeling the punishments were going to get worse with each subsequent door.
Tina was officially furious! What kind of person asks questions about informed consent then proceeds to punish wrong answers by giving people boils?! She seriously doubted Noble had anyone's informed consent to do that. What a filthy hypocrite! How was he head of Hufflepuff? This was Hogwarts, Tina reminded herself, the crazy backwards school that had hired a failed comedian as a headmaster and a doddering old fool as a charms teacher. By that logic, she supposed it wasn't too far-fetched to have a bully and hypocrite in charge of the house known for kindness and fair play.
Tina's rage was making it a lot harder to think straight. It looked like their best chance was to have five people each pick a different answer. Then they'd all know that the person without boils had the correct one, and everybody else could tap the right answer. The problem was she didn't know which answers had already been picked. She thought to ask Chloe which answer she picked so they could warn the others not to choose that one, but she wasn't sure it would do much good now. A lot of people had already chosen their answers.
Tina re-examined the question. The only way to outsmart a bully was to think like one! Now if I enjoyed hurting people, how would I use this question to do it? she thought. Probably by planting a seemingly correct answer in plain sight so more people would be tricked into getting boils… That meant “making sure your friend fully understands what the potion is and does, including any risks, before putting in their drink” was incorrect! Whew! She was glad she waited before picking! So if the obvious answer was a trick… that had to mean the answer that looked like a trick was the correct one, right?
Tina gingerly tapped None of the above and waited for something to happen. Hopefully that something wasn't boils! Quote:
Originally Posted by lazykitty Man, she was NAILING these questions! Archer happily went through the next door to the next, reading this new parchment carefully. Okay, this required a bit more thought. At first glance, the first one seemed to be right. But, on second read through, it said nothing about the person saying yes. And the third one said nothing about explaining any side effects or what the potion does, therefore, the subject hadn't been informed. And so, this had to be one of those trick questions. Which of course meant that the answer was....
She reached up and tapped the none of the above with her wand before scratching her back with it. And wait. Had Derf just scratched out some of his hair...? Quote:
Originally Posted by Dokimoto
Jackson had gathered at the door with the other students (and Annie too kind of?) and chosen All of the Above. That was usually safe, right? It seemed right in this case anyway. He walked in cautiously, realizing that this was not the classroom. Uhh……… *scratch scratch* Okay. He made his way to the other door. Was he stuck in some kind of loop?? A parchment could be seen on the door and Jackson blinked at it. Another one? He read the question posed and exhaled out of his nose. Now what would have made THIS question appear?? And now he couldn’t stop thinking about Zoryn. That girl… Jackson shook his head as he read it. *scratch scratch scratch* None sounded –very obviously- correct, but he had hesitations about each of them. The only one that was at least logical. He felt like there should be a little more to it than just that though. Hoping his morals were on track, he tapped his wand on the answer regarding getting a person’s consent.
Lo and behold… woohoo! The door had opened for him. He walked through to the next room and had to stop himself from letting out a frustrated groan. Come on, he was supposed to be a role model. He sucked it up and proceeded to read the third question. A follow up question? Okay, that shouldn’t be difficult. *scratch scratch* He nodded and proceeded to tap his wand to the second answer, explaining everything fully. The third answer had gotten his attention as well, but he was sure that Professor Noble wanted more to the answer than just checking if the drinker was allergic. *scratch*
*scratch scratch*
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Nothing happened. But… how could that be wrong? Jackson’s eyebrows furrowed and he reread the parchment. He gave himself a minute to think the question through before realizing that none of the answers were all inclusive. They were mostly pretty manipulative, and if his first choice wasn’t right then there was only one option. He tapped his wand on None of the Above. His eyes shifted around as he waited to see if this answer was acceptable instead. How many more doors would there be? What would be behind the last door? Did he win a new car? Though it might have been more down to luck than judgement, Zoryn had nailed the third question first time...as had Daisy, Abra, Derf, Archer, Tina and Jackson. And as Chloe re-evaluated the options, and rectified her previous mistake, the boils on her hand completely disappeared and she too could proceed. Tina really didn’t need to rage quite so much. Noble was a grump, yes. Strict too. But he was qualified for his position, and he did have his reasons.
The door open, you go through it…and yet again, it isn’t the classroom. A fourth question awaited, although there was no multiple choice this time. Next to the parchment, hanging from a piece of string, was a self-inking quill with invisible ink.
*** SPOILER!!: Door 3 – WRONG answers Quote:
Originally Posted by Lissy Longbottom YES! This was actually easier than she had expected. Nettie followed the next group of people to the third question. Reading it over, she saw the Head Girl tap the answer that Nettie herself had been about to select - and then her arm broke out in BOILS! So that was likely NOT the answer. Wow. Close one. That looked painful, and itchy. She subconsciously began to scratch her own wrist as she pondered the rest of the answers.
It was actually a lot easier than it had seen upon first glance. Having them say yes was really all you needed. It was up to THEM if they listened to your explanation and knew what they were getting themselves in to. So she tapped that one. Quote:
Originally Posted by Jessicute Hanna came through the second door and, again, stopped short. There was a wooden door, but they couldn't just go through it. No. There was another piece of parchment, with another question. Hanna, wand still firmly in hand, looked over the question and provided answers.
The previous question had something about informed consent, too. The first was ethics. All but the final one seemed to be good steps in the process of gaining informed consent. One had to first ask the question. There had to be some kind of question in order to require informed consent, right? And one had to discuss all of the risks, including allergies, before allowing the person to consume the potion. Otherwise you could keep that to yourself, ask your friend who you know is allergic to peanuts, watch them swell up and stop breathing and claim you had got informed consent. That was important. The person had to know whether anything bad would happen, clash with allergies. And of course, of course, they had to say yes.
So, no, it definitely wasn't the last one. She tapped the second choice which seemed to encompass most of what she thought informed consent was all about. Making sure your friend fully understands what the potion is and does, including any risks, before putting in their drink. Quote:
Originally Posted by DuckyLinJi Dorian glared at the back of Zoryn's head as she got in front of him to protect herself from the drizzle coming from the ceiling but he said nothing about it. It would only mentally drain him to try and win over Zoryn's stubbornness.
As the door opened, Dorian stepped through it and sighed as another door greeted him. A wooden one. At least he wasn't alone with the Gryffindor anymore but before he walked to the parchment to read the next question, he had taken out his wand from out of his sleeve and had pointed it at himself and did a complicated wave and felt the hot air charm dry his damp clothes and hair. Much better.
Keeping his wand in his hand, the Ravenclaw waited for Hanna to choose her answer before he decided on one as well and he tapped the Making sure your friend fully understands what the potion is and does, including any risks, before putting in their drink answer with the wand. Quote:
Originally Posted by Kayla Taaffe Next Vivienne tried to enter the third door. She read the question and thought, "Hmm, informed means they know it's happening, right?" So she pointed her wand at "Making sure your friend fully understands..." The door opened and she then awaited her 4th clue. Quote:
Originally Posted by siriusblackliveson Patrick looked at the parchment looking around at the people coming toward the third door and those who were going out of it.
He needed to get into the room he was tired of doors and starting to feel a bit claustrophobic.
Tapping the answer about making sure the person knew ALL the side effects and repercussions. He assumed that was the correct answer. He hoped to Merlin it was the correct answer because he was tired of doors.
Wait was he wrong. Was it supposed to be none? no he stuck with his answer. Unfortunately, it seems you haven’t read the parchment closely enough, and the door remains shut. And almost as if to encourage you to get it right more quickly, the skin is tautening on your wand hand and breaking out into…boils? Best re-read the options carefully and try again, before the boils can spread any further. SPOILER!!: Parchment: third door
Tap the correct answer.
3. Which of the following scenarios shows informed consent? - Asking a friend if they would like to try your potion whilst they’re still half asleep
- Making sure your friend fully understands what the potion is and does, including any risks, before putting in their drink
- Checking whether your friend is allergic to the potion before giving it to them
- Getting your friend to say “yes” before giving it to them
- None of the above
*** SPOILER!!: Cordelia and Indigo Quote:
Originally Posted by griffin
Okay, so it might not actually be endless, but after two doors it seemed endless, and that was what mattered to her right now. Cordelia had no way of knowing how many more doors she would have to get through. It wasn’t necessarily that she didn’t know the answer to this question, more like she just couldn’t handle this many doors. Her emotional toolbox wasn’t equipped with constructive or positive ways of dealing with stress. Cordelia recoiled at a sudden unfamiliar touch. ”No, no, no” Who was this person? Would they help her or hurt her? Cordelia wasn’t sure what to think of his intentions. ”Too many doors, too many questions.” Low blood sugar in the mix too? Maybe, she hadn’t checked. That was sometimes a cause of anxiety. Or maybe it was just normal anxiety, because that happened too. Quote:
Originally Posted by littledhampir Oops, maybe he shouldn't have touched her. He should have thought that one through. "Hey, deep breaths." He'd never really tried to help someone before, but he was trying to think of what would help him if he was in her position. "I'm sure there's not many more now. The sooner we answer the questions, the sooner we get out of here. Come on, want to come with me?"
He briefly read over the parchment on this door. Which one of them was informed consent? It definitely wasn't the first one about being half asleep. The second one sounded good. He kept that one in the back of his mind. He'd come back to it. Checking if they were allergic wasn't enough to be informed consent. The one about saying yes sounded alright too, but technically the best answer would be a combination of that one and the second one. Understanding and saying yes were both required for informed consent. So he tapped his wand on none of the above. Would the small girl be able to sneak through a door that he opened? He kind of doubted it. Still, he could help her get through. Of course that was assuming that he had, in fact, gotten the right answer. Perhaps Noble needed to have a word with the first year after class, but Indigo had the right idea…and the correct answer. The door opened for him, leading into the next room. If Cordelia wanted to stay with him and get into the classroom sooner, then all she needed to do was tap the same answer.
Inside the new room, a fourth question awaited, although there was no multiple choice this time. Next to the parchment, hanging from a piece of string, was a self-inking quill with invisible ink.
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