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WhittyBitty · 09-24-2017, 04:21 AM

SPOILER!!: Facts about the Battle of Hogwarts/Why did it happen?

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Originally Posted by Ginevra

Daisy raised her hand, having recently read about the battle. "The Battle of Hogwarts occurred on May 2nd, 1998 inside the castle at Hogwarts which resulted in the end of Lord Voldemort's terror-filled reign."

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Originally Posted by Steelsheen

Whoah he nailed it? Well whaddya know, call him psychic. Just nobody ask him what the next lottery numbers are. He returned the grin of the girlfriend with a beamy one of his own. #Inspiration

Ok so what did he remember about the Battle of Hogwarts. He looked around the room and this occurred to him "Professor, I could guess that the reason why our room is night-themed is because its related to Voldermort's ultimatum, he wanted Harry Potter to surrender to him by midnight in exchange for him not killing everybody at Hogwarts. But Harry couldnt leave just like that because he was on a mission to recover and destroy all the Horcruxes, one of which is located somewhere in Hogwarts castle. The destruction of the Horcruxes is the only real way to defeat the Dark Lord." Kinda like a Catch 22 there for 'ol Potter.

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Originally Posted by bone_baud10

The Ravenclaw raised his arm, "Well, the battle occurred at summer almost a century ago. I think the importance of the Battle of Hogwarts resembles the one of D-day in Muggle history." Although he was a pureblood and knew sparsely about Muggle 'anything', some historical events are too great to be ignored. "Meaning it was a turning point in the war that was happening in Britain. The war was between two pacts. The first, Voldemort's pact, which fought for Magic and Pureblood supremacy over Muggles and Muggle-borns. The second pact, Dumbledore's Army and The Order of the Pheonix, which fought for freedom and justice in the Wizarding World as well as peace with the Muggle community." Merlin, he was talking a lot. "Basically what happened was Harry Potter defeated Voldemort resulting in an immediate victory to Dumbledore's Army and The Order."

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Originally Posted by Kimothy

But yes, Professor Newton... err, Marchand... had the prefect's attention for this lesson. Vivian raised her hand to share her thoughts. "The Battle of Hogwarts is the climactic ending of the Second Wizarding War, Professor, where Harry Potter defeated Lord Voldemort once and for all," the blond said, nodding along.

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Originally Posted by Lady of Light

Ahem. Anyway, back to history. Etta had done some reading about this, of course.. if only she could remember properly. “To add something new to what other have said, I think it’s the final battle in which the elder wand took part..

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Originally Posted by sweetpinkpixie

"C-Conflict of beliefs," he stated simply, eyes somewhat unfocused as he stared ahead at no where in particular. "One side believed our world...wizardingkind needed to be purified ... and that meant killing muggles, muggle-borns, and blood traitors...so that Voldemort...and his followers...could achieve a global dictatorship under their magical regime...while the other side fought against all this...with a different belief system. A belief in...a free wizarding world..."

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Originally Posted by NifflerFan

As for the questions, the Gryffindor raised her hand and added: "Professor, the Battle of Hogwarts was kinda different from most battles 'cause kids fought in it too, not just the adults. Loads of students fought and made a biiig difference.

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Originally Posted by Daydreamer11

"There was a Battle of Hogwarts because witches and wizards wanted to put an end to the evil that was Voldemort. They were living in constant fear of the madness that he and his followers were responsible for. They wanted their lives back and the only way to accomplish that was to stand up to him. Voldemort had to be eliminated once and for all."

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Originally Posted by Anna Banana

So they wouldn't be talking about the history of Halloween. Sad. Halloween excited Maddie, because of all the free candy, but she could deal with talking about the Battle of Hogwarts. It was a really big important part of their history, and of course she'd grown up hearing all about it. "There were over fifty people that died, some of them children!" she said, raising her hand and looking at the professor with a horrified expression. No matter how many times she thought about children her age fighting and dying in a war, it still freaked her out.

Also...

"Wasn't there a Battle of Hogwarts, because Voldemort figured out Harry Potter was in the castle to destroy the last of his horcruxes?" she asked.

There were quite a few answers coming in, and Rosalyn was very pleased with her students! She had expected that they would be quite knowledgeable when it came to such a huge historical event; this had marked the end of the Second Wizarding War as well as the death of Voldemort.

"Wonderful job, everyone!" Rosalyn smiled at the class. "There is a lot of background details that come into play as far as the battle is concerned, but we will be focusing more on the Battle of Hogwarts itself as opposed to lots and lots of other details." Basically she knew that they would get bored listening to her going on and on about the entire horcrux hunt and the history of Snape. The deathly hallows as well. "Mr Salander and Miss Kemp are spot on in saying that the battle happened at Hogwarts because Voldemort knew that Harry Potter had made his way to Hogwarts in order to destroy a horcrux that was housed there." At that point multiple ones had already been destroyed and Voldemort had been losing more and more strength. "Very good, Mr Willis, Mr Ashburry-Hawthorne and Miss Morrison! Voldemort's main focus - beyond killing Harry Potter, of course - was an attempt at 'purifying', Rosalyn used air quotes, "the wizarding world. As far as he was concerned muggles, muggleborns, and blood traitors needed to be eliminated. Hence all of the horrible things that he and his death eaters did." Rosalyn wasn't going to go into too much detail with that, because it could be rather upsetting. "The battle was the Death Eaters against the Order of the Phoenix and because it happened at Hogwarts, the school took part in defense as well." She paused for a moment before continuing. "As some of you probably know, Lord Voldemort - formally known as Tom Riddle -was actually a Half-blood. His mother was a witch and his father was a muggle. His mother, Merope fell in love with Tom Riddle Sr and used a love potion on him so that she would win his affections. She stopped using the potion on him while she was pregnant in the hopes that he loved her, but he left. Tom Riddle was born in an orphanage and his mother died soon after. So Voldemort himself wasn't a Pureblood." A fact that she found rather interesting, though she wasn't adding in the fact that he had been horrible to other kids at the orphanage and had killed his father.

"There certainly can be comparisons made between the Battle of Hogwarts and D-Day. Wonderful observation, Mr Willis!' Call her impressed. "There are actually similarities between both the Second Wizarding War and World War Two, but I am not going to get into that right now, as we need to move on with the lesson, but it's definitely something fascinating to think about." Maybe for another class, she could focus entirely on that... "That most definitely IS why I chose to have the lesson decorated with a night sky, Mr Salander.. Harry Potter sacrificed his life at that time so that another of the horcruxes could be destroyed. Despite the fact that he came back, the fact of the matter is that he gave his life for the wizarding world." And that was no small matter. "As Miss Swann and Miss Fairfield both point out, the battle took place on May 2nd, 1998, and Voldemort and his Death Eaters were defeated. The battle was fought both inside the castle and outside it. Many people fought for the school, including students, as both Miss Sparkes and Miss Kemp have pointed out. And Harry Potter DID use the Elder Wand, very good, Miss Kramer! He managed to master all of the deathly hallows, meaning he mastered death." Another accomplishment he had made.

SPOILER!!: Was the Battle of Hogwarts inevitable?

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Originally Posted by Ginevra

"I personally think that bloodshed was always going to happen, no matter what. Lord Voldemort wasn't going to go down without as much destruction and death as possible. Voldemort couldn't kill Harry Potter when Harry was an infant so he wanted to finish the job no matter the cost."

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Originally Posted by Watson

Vi raised her hand to the Professor's question. "I think it was inevitable given Lord Voldemort's personality or what we know of it.... Well if Harry Potter had turned himself in, surely Lord Voldemort still would have killed the people who stood with Harry... So yes... I think the battle was inevitable." There would be casualties on both sides. People didn't just believe in Harry as a person. He had represented so much more. All of Dumbledore's army had. It had given people hope of a better world.

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Originally Posted by Steelsheen

"I'm not sure if anything can be done avoiding bloodshed by that point-- I mean theres a whole lot of cruelty and bloodshed even before the actual Battle took place. If Wizards had wanted to avoid all that, then maybe they shouldve listened to the clues and the signs that led to Voldemort's return and prevented that from happening. Nip the problem at the bud my folks always say."

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Originally Posted by bone_baud10

Aymeric paused. A lot of information spilling was going on right now, and he wasn't a very talkative person. "In my opinion the Battle was necessary and inevitable because Voldemort had to be defeated eventually. Otherwise half of the students at the school wouldn't exist." Frightening yet true fact. "But I do think some of the bloodshed at the battle itself on both sides could of been prevented." Some people might disagree with his opinion, but he was simply answering the question as honest as he could be.

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Originally Posted by Kimothy

"And I think it was inevitable, Professor, considering Voldemort didn't seem like the kind of person to put up a fight on his own." He wasn't sorted into Gryffindor, after all... right? "Whether there was a Battle of Hogwarts or not, Voldemort would have done whatever he wanted just so he could lay a finger on Harry." Because, apparently, Voldemort was just one of the many fangirls who liked the Chosen One, of course. Why would he be so obsessed with a teenage boy, after all?

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Originally Posted by Lady of Light

"..and even though I wish that there had been a way to avoid the battle, it was inevitable because Voldemort and his allies, who were way beyond evil, needed to be stopped.” To put it simply.

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Originally Posted by Goblinfrog

She raised her hand as soon as she had an opportunity. "Technically the Battle of Hogwarts could have been stopped, but bloodshed was inevitable." What did she mean? She continued: "Voldemort was a despicably evil bigot who had to be stopped one way or another, there was no way to end that war without killing him and several of his followers. The battle would have happened somewhere, and Hogwarts always seemed like the place it would happen - if you consider that it was under Voldemort's control, that several hocruxes came from there, and that the founders of the Order of the Phoenix all had their start at Hogwarts. Theoretically the battle to stop Voldemort could have taken place somewhere else, like the Ministry of Magic, but we don't know how it would have played out. Perhaps Voldemort would have won, and we'd all be enslaved." Shudder.

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Originally Posted by natekka

"No. I don't think it could've been avoided. The sheer number of followers he had meant that, in order for good to win, people had to fight. They," - they being the good side - "did try and prevent the attack, but their defences were broken through. And... from what I've heard, Voldemort wasn't someone who could be easily reasoned with." Though he did offer to let everyone live if they gave Harry Potter up and joined his side, right? "It could've been held elsewhere, if it wasn't for the fact that Harry Potter needed a horcrux that was hidden inside the castle." Her answers were basically along the same lines as her fellow classmates' but, you know, they weren't wrong, so....

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Originally Posted by SarcasticStrawberry

So she had her opinion ... and lots of them. But she also listened to others opinions before raising her hand and speaking out. "I think that things can be sorted out in a diplomatic manner. But in the case when there are no diplomatic solution, war is inevitable. But with Voldmort he wanted be the most powerful wizard and would stop at noting to get there bloodshed on both sides I really don't think there was any other way to defeat him."

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Originally Posted by sweetpinkpixie

He paused to swallow, palms sweating nervously. He didn't really like thinking about this stuff...and in light of what had happened with the rumored Thunderbird...it made Derf nervous. There HAD been a lot of upset last term after the first and third tasks specifically because of muggle (false or otherwise) involvement. "W-War...between two sides like that...one being driven by a leader who...didn't posses a soul himself really since he had split it into seven pieces...is inevitable..."

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Originally Posted by NifflerFan

"And and I don't think they could've avoided the Battle 'cause Voldemort wasn't gonna give up without a huge fight. He wanted loads of power wayyy too much, mhm. And battles always mean bloodshed AND I think Voldemort kinda enjoyed the killing and violence by that time too. Since his soul was all mangled and stuff." The Battle was kind of a dark time, mhm.

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Originally Posted by Daydreamer11

"I think a battle was inevitable because Voldemort would have continued to terrorize, kill and basically wreak havoc on the world. The battle may not have needed to be at Hogwarts, but some kind of all out battle would have been necessary to accomplish the ultimate goal. Voldemort did not exactly seem like the compromising type."

It came as no surprise that most of the students seemed to be in the opinion of thinking the Battle of Hogwarts was inevitable. The fact that it was Voldemort certainly increased the chances of that, but still she had wanted to ask on more of a hypothetical basis in order to get them thinking about things a little more. "When dealing with people like Lord Voldemort and his followers, it is certainly harder to deal with diplomacy. I agree with everyone who has said that. The Death Eaters were terrorizing many people and would not be stopped." Rosalyn paused again before going on. "You are certainly correct about using diplomacy whenever possible, Miss Primeaux. Unfortunately that wouldn't have worked out, though it has in many other situations." Ones where war had been avoided or stopped before it could get worse. "Very true, Miss Valentine. The battle could have easily taken place somewhere like the Ministry of Magic if Harry Potter hadn't been at Hogwarts to destroy the horcux hidden there."

SPOILER!!: Derfael

Rosalyn suddenly understood why Derfael had seemed so distressed. Poor child! Never in a million years would she ever want to see students upset like this in her lessons. It had just been a rather unfortunate circumstance that the hawk thing had happened right before this subject had come up. But she had already planned this lesson in advance and it needed to happen. "I admit that I don't really know much about what had happened - as far as I don't know what the purpose of the bird has been... Who placed it or what their reasoning was, but whatever happens, we staff will be there to protect you all." Hopefully that response would be at least a little reassuring. Maybe the entire thing had been a really sick joke meant to scare people. Though where had the hawk came from? "Will you be okay, or do you want to leave the lesson?" It was more than perfectly fine if he wanted to leave, she just wanted to make sure that he was okay.

SPOILER!!: Maddie

Rosalyn smiled when Maddie asked her what inevitable meant. It was nice to see students who were keen to learn things! "Inevitable means something that is unavoidable." And if there were more questions like that, she would gladly answer them.

SPOILER!!: Katherine

Katherine definitely had a good point, and Rosalyn was rather impressed with the girl for adding this to the discussion. "Very well said, Miss Toussaint! While the Battle WAS inevitable, it certainly could have happened in another location. He certainly would have felt guilty for the deaths that had occurred. Above all Hogwarts is supposed to be a safe place." Though of course there was still a lot of dangerous things that occurred; it just was that nothing else that happened at Hogwarts was on the same scale as the battle had been. "There WERE two horcruxes destroyed at Hogwarts, but if the diadem had been destroyed by Dumbledore before he died, and the cup had been destroyed without needing the Basilisk's fang... it wouldn't have had to happen at the school."

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Anyway it was time for them to move on with the lesson! "Today I have decided that we are going to play a little game of war. It will be rather simple, and I will explain everything in further detail shortly. For now I would like for you to divide into two groups: Death Eaters and Order of the Phoenix/Hogwarts defenders." Made sense since this was the Battle of Hogwarts, no? "Try to divide yourselves up more or less equally for this." As she spoke, Rosalyn got up and collected a box, placing it at the front of the room near the students. "In here I have a bunch of arm bands, some are white and some are black. Everyone can take one to wear, making sure that they are on full display. Black is for the Death Eater side, and White is for Order of the Phoenix and Hogwarts." Pretty simple.

OOC: Thanks for all the awesome replies everyone! I've moved things around to make things easier for my headspace, but I am sure that I didn't miss anything. Moving on in the lesson we are going to play a game of war (will explain things further a bit later on). For now you just need to choose a side to fight on and grab an arm band and put it on.

Please make sure to title your post with the colour of arm band you are choosing to make things easier for me.

We will be moving on in approximately 48 hours, but I will be looking over the thread and answering any questions etc if needed.

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WhittyBitty DMT & DMAC Wrackspurt Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 237,094 Hogwarts RPG Name: Madison Valentine Fifth Year x12 x9	♥s her SS family l Wifey is MINE \| Naughty Niffler l Whittysaur l #awkwardturtle<# SPOILER!!: Facts about the Battle of Hogwarts/Why did it happen? Quote: Originally Posted by Ginevra Daisy raised her hand, having recently read about the battle. "The Battle of Hogwarts occurred on May 2nd, 1998 inside the castle at Hogwarts which resulted in the end of Lord Voldemort's terror-filled reign." Quote: Originally Posted by Steelsheen Whoah he nailed it? Well whaddya know, call him psychic. Just nobody ask him what the next lottery numbers are. He returned the grin of the girlfriend with a beamy one of his own. #Inspiration Ok so what did he remember about the Battle of Hogwarts. He looked around the room and this occurred to him "Professor, I could guess that the reason why our room is night-themed is because its related to Voldermort's ultimatum, he wanted Harry Potter to surrender to him by midnight in exchange for him not killing everybody at Hogwarts. But Harry couldnt leave just like that because he was on a mission to recover and destroy all the Horcruxes, one of which is located somewhere in Hogwarts castle. The destruction of the Horcruxes is the only real way to defeat the Dark Lord." Kinda like a Catch 22 there for 'ol Potter. Quote: Originally Posted by bone_baud10 The Ravenclaw raised his arm, "Well, the battle occurred at summer almost a century ago. I think the importance of the Battle of Hogwarts resembles the one of D-day in Muggle history." Although he was a pureblood and knew sparsely about Muggle 'anything', some historical events are too great to be ignored. "Meaning it was a turning point in the war that was happening in Britain. The war was between two pacts. The first, Voldemort's pact, which fought for Magic and Pureblood supremacy over Muggles and Muggle-borns. The second pact, Dumbledore's Army and The Order of the Pheonix, which fought for freedom and justice in the Wizarding World as well as peace with the Muggle community." Merlin, he was talking a lot. "Basically what happened was Harry Potter defeated Voldemort resulting in an immediate victory to Dumbledore's Army and The Order." Quote: Originally Posted by Kimothy But yes, Professor Newton... err, Marchand... had the prefect's attention for this lesson. Vivian raised her hand to share her thoughts. "The Battle of Hogwarts is the climactic ending of the Second Wizarding War, Professor, where Harry Potter defeated Lord Voldemort once and for all," the blond said, nodding along. Quote: Originally Posted by Lady of Light Ahem. Anyway, back to history. Etta had done some reading about this, of course.. if only she could remember properly. “To add something new to what other have said, I think it’s the final battle in which the elder wand took part.. Quote: Originally Posted by sweetpinkpixie "C-Conflict of beliefs," he stated simply, eyes somewhat unfocused as he stared ahead at no where in particular. "One side believed our world...wizardingkind needed to be purified ... and that meant killing muggles, muggle-borns, and blood traitors...so that Voldemort...and his followers...could achieve a global dictatorship under their magical regime...while the other side fought against all this...with a different belief system. A belief in...a free wizarding world..." Quote: Originally Posted by NifflerFan As for the questions, the Gryffindor raised her hand and added: "Professor, the Battle of Hogwarts was kinda different from most battles 'cause kids fought in it too, not just the adults. Loads of students fought and made a biiig difference. Quote: Originally Posted by Daydreamer11 "There was a Battle of Hogwarts because witches and wizards wanted to put an end to the evil that was Voldemort. They were living in constant fear of the madness that he and his followers were responsible for. They wanted their lives back and the only way to accomplish that was to stand up to him. Voldemort had to be eliminated once and for all." Quote: Originally Posted by Anna Banana So they wouldn't be talking about the history of Halloween. Sad. Halloween excited Maddie, because of all the free candy, but she could deal with talking about the Battle of Hogwarts. It was a really big important part of their history, and of course she'd grown up hearing all about it. "There were over fifty people that died, some of them children!" she said, raising her hand and looking at the professor with a horrified expression. No matter how many times she thought about children her age fighting and dying in a war, it still freaked her out. Also... "Wasn't there a Battle of Hogwarts, because Voldemort figured out Harry Potter was in the castle to destroy the last of his horcruxes?" she asked. There were quite a few answers coming in, and Rosalyn was very pleased with her students! She had expected that they would be quite knowledgeable when it came to such a huge historical event; this had marked the end of the Second Wizarding War as well as the death of Voldemort. "Wonderful job, everyone!" Rosalyn smiled at the class. "There is a lot of background details that come into play as far as the battle is concerned, but we will be focusing more on the Battle of Hogwarts itself as opposed to lots and lots of other details." Basically she knew that they would get bored listening to her going on and on about the entire horcrux hunt and the history of Snape. The deathly hallows as well. "Mr Salander and Miss Kemp are spot on in saying that the battle happened at Hogwarts because Voldemort knew that Harry Potter had made his way to Hogwarts in order to destroy a horcrux that was housed there." At that point multiple ones had already been destroyed and Voldemort had been losing more and more strength. "Very good, Mr Willis, Mr Ashburry-Hawthorne and Miss Morrison! Voldemort's main focus - beyond killing Harry Potter, of course - was an attempt at 'purifying', Rosalyn used air quotes, "the wizarding world. As far as he was concerned muggles, muggleborns, and blood traitors needed to be eliminated. Hence all of the horrible things that he and his death eaters did." Rosalyn wasn't going to go into too much detail with that, because it could be rather upsetting. "The battle was the Death Eaters against the Order of the Phoenix and because it happened at Hogwarts, the school took part in defense as well." She paused for a moment before continuing. "As some of you probably know, Lord Voldemort - formally known as Tom Riddle -was actually a Half-blood. His mother was a witch and his father was a muggle. His mother, Merope fell in love with Tom Riddle Sr and used a love potion on him so that she would win his affections. She stopped using the potion on him while she was pregnant in the hopes that he loved her, but he left. Tom Riddle was born in an orphanage and his mother died soon after. So Voldemort himself wasn't a Pureblood." A fact that she found rather interesting, though she wasn't adding in the fact that he had been horrible to other kids at the orphanage and had killed his father. "There certainly can be comparisons made between the Battle of Hogwarts and D-Day. Wonderful observation, Mr Willis!' Call her impressed. "There are actually similarities between both the Second Wizarding War and World War Two, but I am not going to get into that right now, as we need to move on with the lesson, but it's definitely something fascinating to think about." Maybe for another class, she could focus entirely on that... "That most definitely IS why I chose to have the lesson decorated with a night sky, Mr Salander.. Harry Potter sacrificed his life at that time so that another of the horcruxes could be destroyed. Despite the fact that he came back, the fact of the matter is that he gave his life for the wizarding world." And that was no small matter. "As Miss Swann and Miss Fairfield both point out, the battle took place on May 2nd, 1998, and Voldemort and his Death Eaters were defeated. The battle was fought both inside the castle and outside it. Many people fought for the school, including students, as both Miss Sparkes and Miss Kemp have pointed out. And Harry Potter DID use the Elder Wand, very good, Miss Kramer! He managed to master all of the deathly hallows, meaning he mastered death." Another accomplishment he had made. SPOILER!!: Was the Battle of Hogwarts inevitable? Quote: Originally Posted by Ginevra "I personally think that bloodshed was always going to happen, no matter what. Lord Voldemort wasn't going to go down without as much destruction and death as possible. Voldemort couldn't kill Harry Potter when Harry was an infant so he wanted to finish the job no matter the cost." Quote: Originally Posted by Watson Vi raised her hand to the Professor's question. "I think it was inevitable given Lord Voldemort's personality or what we know of it.... Well if Harry Potter had turned himself in, surely Lord Voldemort still would have killed the people who stood with Harry... So yes... I think the battle was inevitable." There would be casualties on both sides. People didn't just believe in Harry as a person. He had represented so much more. All of Dumbledore's army had. It had given people hope of a better world. Quote: Originally Posted by Steelsheen "I'm not sure if anything can be done avoiding bloodshed by that point-- I mean theres a whole lot of cruelty and bloodshed even before the actual Battle took place. If Wizards had wanted to avoid all that, then maybe they shouldve listened to the clues and the signs that led to Voldemort's return and prevented that from happening. Nip the problem at the bud my folks always say." Quote: Originally Posted by bone_baud10 Aymeric paused. A lot of information spilling was going on right now, and he wasn't a very talkative person. "In my opinion the Battle was necessary and inevitable because Voldemort had to be defeated eventually. Otherwise half of the students at the school wouldn't exist." Frightening yet true fact. "But I do think some of the bloodshed at the battle itself on both sides could of been prevented." Some people might disagree with his opinion, but he was simply answering the question as honest as he could be. Quote: Originally Posted by Kimothy "And I think it was inevitable, Professor, considering Voldemort didn't seem like the kind of person to put up a fight on his own." He wasn't sorted into Gryffindor, after all... right? "Whether there was a Battle of Hogwarts or not, Voldemort would have done whatever he wanted just so he could lay a finger on Harry." Because, apparently, Voldemort was just one of the many fangirls who liked the Chosen One, of course. Why would he be so obsessed with a teenage boy, after all? Quote: Originally Posted by Lady of Light "..and even though I wish that there had been a way to avoid the battle, it was inevitable because Voldemort and his allies, who were way beyond evil, needed to be stopped.” To put it simply. Quote: Originally Posted by Goblinfrog She raised her hand as soon as she had an opportunity. "Technically the Battle of Hogwarts could have been stopped, but bloodshed was inevitable." What did she mean? She continued: "Voldemort was a despicably evil bigot who had to be stopped one way or another, there was no way to end that war without killing him and several of his followers. The battle would have happened somewhere, and Hogwarts always seemed like the place it would happen - if you consider that it was under Voldemort's control, that several hocruxes came from there, and that the founders of the Order of the Phoenix all had their start at Hogwarts. Theoretically the battle to stop Voldemort could have taken place somewhere else, like the Ministry of Magic, but we don't know how it would have played out. Perhaps Voldemort would have won, and we'd all be enslaved." Shudder. Quote: Originally Posted by natekka *"No. I don't think it could've been avoided. The sheer number of followers he had meant that, in order for good to win, people had* to fight. They," - they being the good side - "did try and prevent the attack, but their defences were broken through. And... from what I've heard, Voldemort wasn't someone who could be easily reasoned with." Though he did offer to let everyone live if they gave Harry Potter up and joined his side, right? "It could've been held elsewhere, if it wasn't for the fact that Harry Potter needed a horcrux that was hidden inside the castle." Her answers were basically along the same lines as her fellow classmates' but, you know, they weren't wrong, so.... Quote: Originally Posted by SarcasticStrawberry So she had her opinion ... and lots of them. But she also listened to others opinions before raising her hand and speaking out. "I think that things can be sorted out in a diplomatic manner. But in the case when there are no diplomatic solution, war is inevitable. But with Voldmort he wanted be the most powerful wizard and would stop at noting to get there bloodshed on both sides I really don't think there was any other way to defeat him." Quote: Originally Posted by sweetpinkpixie He paused to swallow, palms sweating nervously. He didn't really like thinking about this stuff...and in light of what had happened with the rumored Thunderbird...it made Derf nervous. There HAD been a lot of upset last term after the first and third tasks specifically because of muggle (false or otherwise) involvement. "W-War...between two sides like that...one being driven by a leader who...didn't posses a soul himself really since he had split it into seven pieces...is inevitable..." Quote: Originally Posted by NifflerFan "And and I don't think they could've avoided the Battle 'cause Voldemort wasn't gonna give up without a huge fight. He wanted loads of power wayyy too much, mhm. And battles always mean bloodshed AND I think Voldemort kinda enjoyed the killing and violence by that time too. Since his soul was all mangled and stuff." The Battle was kind of a dark time, mhm. Quote: Originally Posted by Daydreamer11 "I think a battle was inevitable because Voldemort would have continued to terrorize, kill and basically wreak havoc on the world. The battle may not have needed to be at Hogwarts, but some kind of all out battle would have been necessary to accomplish the ultimate goal. Voldemort did not exactly seem like the compromising type." It came as no surprise that most of the students seemed to be in the opinion of thinking the Battle of Hogwarts was inevitable. The fact that it was Voldemort certainly increased the chances of that, but still she had wanted to ask on more of a hypothetical basis in order to get them thinking about things a little more. "When dealing with people like Lord Voldemort and his followers, it is certainly harder to deal with diplomacy. I agree with everyone who has said that. The Death Eaters were terrorizing many people and would not be stopped." Rosalyn paused again before going on. "You are certainly correct about using diplomacy whenever possible, Miss Primeaux. Unfortunately that wouldn't have worked out, though it has in many other situations." Ones where war had been avoided or stopped before it could get worse. "Very true, Miss Valentine. The battle could have easily taken place somewhere like the Ministry of Magic if Harry Potter hadn't been at Hogwarts to destroy the horcux hidden there." SPOILER!!*: Derfael* Quote: Originally Posted by sweetpinkpixie Derf stopped there to look at his hands, thinking a bit more before pressing onward. "Professor...is...what happened at Hogwarts..." he paused to bite his lip, thoughts drifting back towards the insecurity he felt back in first year with the portal and the Monster. With that as his impression of Hogwarts, it was impossible not to...feel frightened by recent happenings. "...the blood...with the bird of prey...is that a warning message that...you know...conflict is coming? Like...when the Chamber of Secrets had been opened...and there was...bloodonthewallsthentoo.." Thunderbird or hawk or whatever it had been...there was something there, you know? Soaring above Hogwarts...keen eyesight...watching them... "Especially if, you know, the rumor is true and it was a Thunderbird...those LIKE to fight...and...er...are highly sensitive to danger..." Sure felt like a warning or message to him. Rosalyn suddenly understood why Derfael had seemed so distressed. Poor child! Never in a million years would she ever want to see students upset like this in her lessons. It had just been a rather unfortunate circumstance that the hawk thing had happened right before this subject had come up. But she had already planned this lesson in advance and it needed to happen. "I admit that I don't really know much about what had happened - as far as I don't know what the purpose of the bird has been... Who placed it or what their reasoning was, but whatever happens, we staff will be there to protect you all." Hopefully that response would be at least a little reassuring. Maybe the entire thing had been a really sick joke meant to scare people. Though where had the hawk came from? "Will you be okay, or do you want to leave the lesson?" It was more than perfectly fine if he wanted to leave, she just wanted to make sure that he was okay. SPOILER!!: Maddie Quote: Originally Posted by Anna Banana "What's inevitable mean, Professor?" Was she asking if they thought the battle HAD to happen or not? Maybe had heard the word, but she hadn't used it much at all. Maybe not even once in her life. Rosalyn smiled when Maddie asked her what inevitable meant. It was nice to see students who were keen to learn things! "Inevitable means something that is unavoidable." And if there were more questions like that, she would gladly answer them. SPOILER!!: Katherine Quote: Originally Posted by Cassirin "Professor, I think we're taking for granted the idea that Hogwarts was anyone's end game in the last Wizarding War. Voldemort was scouring the countryside for Potter, and Hogwarts happened to be the place where he pinned him down. I suspect that Harry Potter very much regretted that fact for the rest of his life. I mean, sure, it was a good place to act as a rallying call for those willing to stand against the Death Eaters, and some may have shown up just by nature of it being a school, but he unintentionally brought death and destruction to the one place in Britain where children should have been safe. I don't blame him... the death and destruction was caused by the Death Eaters, but he's down in history as a highly moral person, and I think it would have bothered him." Katherine definitely had a good point, and Rosalyn was rather impressed with the girl for adding this to the discussion. "Very well said, Miss Toussaint! While the Battle WAS inevitable, it certainly could have happened in another location. He certainly would have felt guilty for the deaths that had occurred. Above all Hogwarts is supposed to be a safe place." Though of course there was still a lot of dangerous things that occurred; it just was that nothing else that happened at Hogwarts was on the same scale as the battle had been. "There WERE two horcruxes destroyed at Hogwarts, but if the diadem had been destroyed by Dumbledore before he died, and the cup had been destroyed without needing the Basilisk's fang... it wouldn't have had to happen at the school." ... Anyway it was time for them to move on with the lesson! "Today I have decided that we are going to play a little game of war. It will be rather simple, and I will explain everything in further detail shortly. For now I would like for you to divide into two groups: Death Eaters and Order of the Phoenix/Hogwarts defenders." Made sense since this was the Battle of Hogwarts, no? "Try to divide yourselves up more or less equally for this." As she spoke, Rosalyn got up and collected a box, placing it at the front of the room near the students. "In here I have a bunch of arm bands, some are white and some are black. Everyone can take one to wear, making sure that they are on full display. Black is for the Death Eater side, and White is for Order of the Phoenix and Hogwarts." Pretty simple. OOC: Thanks for all the awesome replies everyone! I've moved things around to make things easier for my headspace, but I am sure that I didn't miss anything. Moving on in the lesson we are going to play a game of war (will explain things further a bit later on). For now you just need to choose a side to fight on and grab an arm band and put it on. Please make sure to title your post with the colour of arm band you are choosing to make things easier for me. We will be moving on in approximately 48 hours, but I will be looking over the thread and answering any questions etc if needed. __________________ ✯ ✯ ✯ ✯ ✯ ✯ Last edited by WhittyBitty; 09-24-2017 at 04:27 AM.