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Originally Posted by Kimothy  So... what did she know about fire divination? Not much, to be honest. While her ideas were still fresh and nobody had answered the question, Vivian raised her hand. Sorry, guys, but this was survival of the fittest. "There are many types of pyromancy, Professor, one of which is capnomancy," she shared. That was the only type she knew, anyway. LOL. But now that she had given her thought about the subject, Vivian was thinking... "Correct Vivian! Capnomancy is a type of pyromancy that focuses on interpreting and making predictions from fire smoke." Laurel responded with a smile. Interesting that she knew of that type of divination. Quote:
Originally Posted by Watson Then class had begun and they were learning about Pyromancy. Fire Divination? Incredible! She had always loved the idea of being able to read messages through fire. A fact about Pyromancy. She raised her hand to offer a fact. A historical one because she felt more comfortable with that."Professor, I believe pyromancy was named a "forbidden" art, along with necromancy, during the renaissance period." Turning her gaze to Olivia she smiled. "I'm glad to hear that you're all right and don't need to leave to see the healer." Laurel then nodded encouragingly. "You're right Olivia during the renaissance period in history pyromancy was indeed classified as a forbidden art along with necromancy, geomancy, hydromancy, palmistry and spatulamancy." Which she didn't understand but people at that time had other views then then they did now. Quote:
Originally Posted by Erindipity She HEARD her and knew an answer, but she was a little side tracked at the moment. But when she was able to blink a few times and look up she had a peaceful sort of smile on her face. "Pyromancy was one of the earliest forms of divination. It is thought that it was even practiced at the Temple of Athena during Greek times, " she said with a nod before turning her attention back to the flames. Dora must have slipped in when Laurel had been going over her lesson plan. Turning to the lioness she nodded kindly. "Yes, that is true Dora. Pyromancy is one of the oldest and earliest forms of Divination that has been practiced since ancient times. Its not totally certain, but its believed yes that pyromancy was practiced at the Temple of Athena in Greek society." Quote:
Originally Posted by Optimist.Prime Really, she just liked the kindness that she seemed to always bestow upon her students. Hand in the air…look at the hand! Melbourne was called on finally and she just grinned, ”like Vivian mentioned there are different forms of Pyromancy! Other than Capnomancy the one I really enjoyed looking up were Alomancy and Botanomacy” she paused for a second before adding ”however…I have a question would it be safe to assume that any form of pyromancy that involves burning any item could be a form of Causinomancy? Divination by burning and casting items into the fire…because with Botanomancy and Alomancy you do tend to cast into fire which in turn would be Causinomancy…right?” sure, she was questioning things but it probably could be safe to assume that the little known form of divinations was likely a bigger blanket term for all of the pyromancy readings that involved casting things into flames. Melbourne's hand had been up for a while and the grin that met Laurel when she cast her eyes on the lioness was warming. Thoughtfully she responded. [b]"Interesting question Melbourne! You've answered your own question I think. Causinomancy is the method where you burn things and its like Pyromancy the stem from where all the other branches/variants like Alomany, Botanomancy come from since you burn salt and plants in them."[b] Hopefully that was an easy enough description of how to look at it. Quote:
Originally Posted by PhoenixRising Pyromancy, how interesting. And the one that Skylar knew about was mentioned, by Vivian nonetheless, but she didn't provide much in the way of what it was, which left room for her to elaborate. "More about capnomancy," Skylar began, "It's divination by using the smoke. Whereas thin, straight smoke plumes are meant to be good omens. Larger smoke plumes means the opposite." Oops? That was kind of like three facts, but she couldn't describe one omen without the other. Skylar chose to elaborate on what Vivian had already said earlier. Laurel looked over at the snakette and nodded "Yes, good Skylar. In Capnomancy you do interpret the smoke plumes for good and bad omens. Large smokes plumes would signify a bad omen to come." Hopefully nobody would see bad omens today. Quote:
Originally Posted by hermygirl Sam flashed a grin at Dora as the subject of today's lesson was confirmed. Of course it would be pyromancy, with a fire like that. And this was a topic Sam could get into. Way more fun than counting and interpreting moles! She wiggled to get more comfortable on her blanket, probably the most alert she'd ever been in a Divination lesson.
"It involves looking at the shape, size and intensity of the fire," Sam volunteered. "Sometimes after having thrown something in it, like twigs or herbs." It seemed that the subject of the lesson had gotten liking and got everyone to be attentive and engaged. Sam was one of them. Flashing the eagle a beam Laurel nodded "Yes in the most basic form of Pyromancy you interpret the fires shape, size and intensity Sam to base your predicitions on. Depending on the type of divination reading you practice then some does involve studying the fire after throwing in twigs and herbs and those variants are called Daphnomancy and Botanomancy." Quote:
Originally Posted by DaniDiNardo Real smoke provoked real asthma attacks and they were quite a ways off from the Hospital Wing considering everything.
"It's considered by some to be unreliable. Those who try to divine images with the flames themselves often end up seeing different things relating to the same event so it's unclear who really has the right interpretation--if any of them do." They couldn't all be right. An event could only have so many outcomes and no more. Why Jessa was sitting so far from the fire was curious to Laurel. Maybe it was for medical reasons? Smoke could induce asthma she knew. Focusing on the eagle girl's offered up answer she nodded kindly. "Yes, some people deem pyromancy readings to be unrealiable, but that can be said about all methods of divining our past, present and future. Everyone interprets images they see in flames or other outlets differently its a human perogrative. You can see it in the opposite way too if many people divine flames for an event and see the same things then maybe it will come true or not, right Jessa?" Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady of Light "It's an ancient form of divination. The shape of the flames are interpreted the way one sees them, I think? And each person would probably have a different interpretation.. I'd assume." .. and that's all she knew or could guess. At least she tried, right? That should count for something. Etta's answer followed in the same footsteps as Jessas. Flashing a smile over in the badger prefect's direction she nodded. "You're correct Etta! Pyromancy is a very ancient form and how you interpret the flames is very individual. If the whole class were to study the large fire in our fire pit in front of us then none of us would see exactly the same images since what we might see or not depends on many other factors like knowledge, experiance, maturity and mood." Just to name a few. Quote:
Originally Posted by NifflerFan She flashed back to a recent Transfiguration lesson they'd had that involved smoke, but Jessa had been okay with it then. The Ravenclaw must have some problem with real smoke, and Emmeline frowned in concern.
What did she know about pyromancy? Well...: "One kind of pyromancy is looking for fire-omens, or specific signs in the flames that predict the future." Right? Turning to the little first year lioness next she nodded "Yes good Emmaline, that'd be Capnomancy that you are referring to. It's similar to tea leaf reading where you also look for signs but in this case omens that can be more omniscient." Omens for some reason always raised more flags than usual tea leaf signs weirdly enough. Quote:
Originally Posted by Govoni Oh, Pyromancy..... Well, okay, yes, they couldn't very well learn about fire in a crowded classroom. The whole place would've gone up in a giant blaze of glory.
"Followers of Hephaestus were said to practice pyromancy. In the Greek pantheon, Hephaestus's power ruled over fire and the forge." Greek mythology. She was fan, sorry. They should've known what her answer was going to be... Also, she hated repeating answers, so that was something that hadn't been mentioned yet..... "Would this also make us followers of Hephaestus?" Olivia Phillips not Holden. Laurel had to keep them apart offered up someting new that hadn't been said already. "That is correct Olivia followers of the Greek god Hephaestus were believed to have been practioners of pyromancy." Shaking her head she assured. "No, just becasue we have one lesson on pyromancy doesn't make us followers of Hephaestus at all. We're merely scraping on the surface of pyromancy and that doesn't suddenly make us followers of anything. To be called that you need to believe, study and practice something for decades." Quote:
Originally Posted by sweetpinkpixie He should probably try to answer it...and sound mature...but the first thing to blurt out of the second year's mouth when his hand was raised was anything but that. "S-S-So...could you like...COMBINE pyromancy with like...the type of divination that uses...uuuuuuuuuuuh flatulence?" he asked by means of answering the professor's question. "Like...with blast-ended skrewts, I mean...since they toot FIRE." Derf's question was unexpected, but not weird at all. Laurel could understand why pyromancy would make him think of blast-ended skrewts. Beaming to the young badger she said. "I suppose theoretically you could combine the two Derfael, but I don't recommend it. Too much heat might make the skrewt blast in two and i don't think you want that, right? Hear with Professor Wayland if you're really curious maybe he knows more on the subject and if it's been tested before." Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverTiger
“I think you can use any kind of flame for pyromancy. Like, you could use a candle or something that’s lots smaller than a big bonfire,” she suggested, glancing back at Jessa with her answer too. Because candles had to make less smoke so that made them safer. Plus, she’d found herself looking at Derf again with his answer. Divination by skrewt? In a weird way it sounded like it made sense.
Stasya still had her hand up and Laurel listened to her answer. Nodding to the lioness she said "Yes, good Stasya that's an important fact. You can indeed any kind of flame for your pyromancy readings from a candle, a bonfire or even a magic induced flame from the tip of your wand." Quote:
Originally Posted by Daydreamer11 Shay discovered that they would be learning about Pyromancy today. She delved into her brain to think of what she knew about the subject, as that was the first question. Shay raised her hand to share her fact. "One form of Pyromancy is Botanomancy. It involves the burning of plants and interpreting the fire and smoke that results from the burning. Don't tell Professor Myers I said that." Botanomancy would surely be sacrilegious to the plant man. Smiling over Shay she almost giggled at the girl's last comment. "Professor Myers won't lose his witts because you offered up a method of Divination that involves burning plants Shay. The forbidden forest centaurs burn plants on the school grounds every other day so Professor Myers is okay with it. He probably doesn't like it but he understand why they do it." Quote:
Originally Posted by potterobsessionist
He stood next to the Divination professor as she started the class and kind of, sort of zoomed out a little. He was easily distracted. And right now he was distracted by a tangled tassle hanging from his robes. He fiddled with it until the students started talking. That actually got his attention. He glanced up at the kiddos and listened in on their discussion, still fiddling with his tassle. He was never a good student. Could never sit still and often thought about other things. Like, at the moment, he couldn't help but wonder why British people ate mince pies at Christmas? What even was a mince pie? When there was a little lull in the fact answers Laurel leaned closer to Haraldur and whispered quietly in his ear. [b]"Can you make the last preparations for the mini activity that's building their own fires? We'll be getting to that part in about 15 minutes."[b] She gestured meaningfully over to the big piles of wood and splinters behind them. It would occupy her co-class chaperone and would give her time to focus on the discussion.
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Deeming that no more answers were going to be offered up Laurel took a few step's forward and said. "Let's move on shall we. As we've estabilished we're focusing on pyromancy today and you can as Stasya said make use of any flame for pyromancy readings from candle sticks to charmed flames and fireplace fires.
Fire has always been a very important part of society and peoples lives since
ancient times. Fire divination has blossomed out in many different variants over the years like those you've all brought up in class like Capnomancy, Botanomancy and Alomancy. Here Laurel paused briefly to gather her thoughts and allow for the students to do the same.
"Incidentally Alomancy is the method of Pyromancy that will be our focus for the remainder of our lesson which is interpreting the shapes that salt make on fire coals. Salt is belived by both muggles and magical folk to have magical properties and can be used for magical protection, purification and blessing rituals. Many muggles sees this as superstitious and therefore i wonder can you all recall any salt supersititons or uses that you've heard of at home?" OOC: Give one salt supersition or salt use each. All answers are accepted both right and wrong. Have fun with it! Class will continue roughly around 24 hours from this post with the mini activity.
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