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Originally Posted by DanialRadFAN01  .....So he had no arrows?
Was there something wrong with him? His brow furrowed even more as the Professor went on. He wasn't really pleased to find out that his would be different than the majority of people's birthday chart things. He didn't know what it meant but he hoped it wasn't bad.
Raising his hand to add a suggestion, Milo spoke when called. "I don't have an arrows on mine. Does that mean that maybe a specific part of my personality is 'foggy' or more difficult to put into a specific category or state?" He hoped that made sense. Foggy... that made her think of dementors, which were not her favorite creatures ever. She had to suppress a shudder, since she didn't want to confuse the poor boy. " An excellent suggestion, and well-reasoned at that." A very Ravenclaw trait, which she heartily approved. " It could be that part of your character is hard to pin down, yes." Quote:
Originally Posted by Holmesian Feline Sticking around or not...it was up to Adi really. Though it was nice to have him there with him. For support in the subject if nothing more, it ha certainly helped with potions and the mess he had previously had with the subject. As directed by Professor Tanner, he copied the number grid into his notes exactly as shown before moving to deal with the marking of his birthday, shading in the four boxes that were covered by the date in question.
August 26th, 2070
As the professor continued, Benny listened intently. So there were arrows created by complete rows of 3. Taking a look at his shaded chart, it was clear he himself didn't have any. Neither did the badger beside him when he looked over. It seemed for him and Adi, there was still no winning points. As for why someone might not have a positive arrow in their chart, the seventh year paused to think on the reason. "Perhaps their personality is an even mix of traits...that nothing in particular stands out." Next to answer her was Benjamin. " Perhaps. You mean like an even-tempered person? Or maybe someone who has learned to subdue their passions?" Quote:
Originally Posted by Sararara Dumb numbers were DUMB. Didja see that? NO positive arrows. Not a single one. ZIP. NADA. NOTHING. Norah wrinkled her nose at the page in the textbook that was being unnecessarily mean to her poor soul (who gave it permission to do that, huh?) and busied herself writing notes on that the arrows meant. Y'know, all those arrows she didn't have. What a rip off. "I guess it could mean that you don't have any special good things about you." Which was COMPLETELY unfair, in case you were wondering. "Or maybe you do have positive things but one just doesn't stand out. Or they're SO positive that they all stand out so there can't be an importantest one. I don't have any positive arrows, so I hope my personality is still good without them." This mood she was in was horridly funky and didn't FEEL very good, though, so maybe she was going to be stuck like this forever and ever because that's what her numbers said. Where could one apply for a different birthday?
She did have a negative arrow, though. What a life. Importantest?
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She was going to choose to let that one go. " No, you misunderstand, Miss Kittredge. Positive arrows do not necessarily mean good things. If you read through the descriptions, you would find some that you would likely not want to describe yourself." It was a common misconception. " You need not worry about your personality being fine without them, therefore." Hopefully that cleared things up. Quote:
Originally Posted by griffin Opening her textbook, she looked to see what three blank boxes in a row meant. Negative arrows. Penelope had no arrows of positivity, but she had two arrows of negativity, the arrow of poor memory and the arrow of frustration. Apparently that meant her memory was going to get worse and she was going to be frustrated with people. Oh well, negative things in arithmancy were usually more about how you could improve that particular aspect of your personality than simply pointing out negative things about you. She was kind of worried about this memory loss thing. The textbook said that people with the memory loss arrow could be very smart and witty. She was smart.
Now, what did no positive arrows mean? "What if you have multiple negative arrows? If arrows represent strong personality traits, does it mean that you don't have any strong personality traits if there aren't any arrows?" With positive and negative it wasn't really good or bad, just different personality traits that people had been lead to believe were more positive or more negative. Okay, maybe some of the negative arrows weren't exactly good. Was the whole idea of good and bad, positive and negative right? Maybe there was no such thing as good and bad.
" We have not yet reached negative arrows just yet, Miss Wright, so please hold on to your thoughts about those." One of Tiara's pet peeves was going ahead, so she had to remind herself that Penelope was probably just curious, which was in fact a good thing. " In some cases yes, it could mean that someone does not have strong personality traits, but not always." Quote:
Originally Posted by FearlessLeader19 Adi grinned at Tanner. "I just have a few with me right now.'' It was true. Ever since last term when Glendower had required coloured pencils for classes, he had gotten some of his own. Too bad she wasn't there to carry on with the History classes.
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Yup, yup!
The Hufflepuff had his stuff all set and was awaiting the next set of instructions. With his head tilted, he listened to Tanner explain about the Arrow from her grid before flipping to his textbook to look up his Arrows.
He had TWO negative Arrows.
Pffft. Their meanings about him were wrong. Off by a mile, thank you very much. But Tanner did say that Positive Arrows were not necessarily a good thing. Did it work both ways? Adi raised his hand. "It could it be that the person's negative traits were going to fade as they aged.'' he suggested uncertainly. Again with bringing up the negative arrows. " I am failing to see the connection between not having positive arrows and negative traits fading with age, Mister Rehman. Perhaps you could clarify." He did not have to, but he could if he wanted. Maybe he really was talking about positive arrows after all. Quote:
Originally Posted by feeheeheeny "Yes, ma'am," came Sophie's affirmative reply to the professor's confidence in her and Zander, accompanied by a thumbs-up and a smile over at the Gryffindor. Tanner always made her feel good, like the woman believed in her. Always had her vote of confidence, Sophie did, and it was greatly appreciated.
Turning her attention back up to the board, Sophie listened attentively, but ultimately ended up flipping through her textbook to get to chapter thirty to see just what Tanner was talking about as she explained it. Before she found the right page, Tanner was asking a question, and... Sophie had a general idea before she could even find out for herself in the book. She was already wondering about what happened when there were no positive arrows present, as SHE had no positive arrows present, so... she was going to peek in the textbook really quickly. Yes.
...She was reading through the positive arrows when Norah's answer made her squint. No special good things? Her hand shot up to object, but then the Hufflepuff prefect made up for it a little with providing other options. Yes. Good on you, Norah. Except... Norah then admitted that SHE didn't have any positive arrows, but that meant... Norah was essentially admitting to the whole class that she thought she didn't have any special good things about her. Right? Wasn't that what just happened?
No, Norah. No. Could Soph go hug her?
She also was sure Norah wouldn't have guessed such a thing if she knew Sophie didn't have any positive arrows, and she felt bad for letting her know otherwise... but Soph's hand raised anyway. "Well, I don't have any positive arrows, and I don't think I lack strong personality traits. Maybe... someone with no positive arrows has too many strong personality traits but it seems highly unlikely to fill the whole grid based upon a birth date, so y'can't just have all the arrows." Y'know? "Plus, the arrows don't even cover the entire realm of possible personality traits, so... people can still have strong personality traits even without a positive arrow, 'specially for traits that aren't even applicable, and I don't think not having one of these arrows means that personality trait isn't strong for you." She didn't think anyone would say she didn't have a strong personality, so it just COULDN'T work that way.
"Like, for me, the positive arrows of..." peeking at the book, "willpower... activity... 'n determination all seem applicable to me, and I don't need Pythagoras to tell me that." Since he hadn't, but she already KNEW. And... was she being helpfully critical, or uncooperative? She wasn't sure. "But I think these are more like... guidelines anyway. Like, s'not a one size fits all kinda thing, but I see how it could be helpful to some people who seek greater clarity in life and need help identifying strengths and weaknesses 'n stuff. These things aren't always super relevant, but when they are, it can be mega cool." So she wasn't ENTIRELY refuting this activity... just hopefully maybe encouraging those who, like Norah, seemed troubled by the whole thing already.
Pythagoras, man. Crushing hopes and dreams since the sixth century B.C.E. Tiara was positively BEAMING at Sophie Brown. Not only had she stuck up for Norah and encouraged her, she had also displayed sound reasoning and a mature view of the applications of Arithmancy. " Everyone, I cannot possibly elaborate upon Miss Brown's words and hope to add anything of benefit." Truly, the professor was almost tearing up. " Miss Kittredge, I believe your questions and objections have now been satisfactorily addressed." Oh, and one more thing. " Five points to our Head Girl!" Quote:
Originally Posted by RandomRaven Positive and Negative arrows. So that's why they were playing the tic tac toe at the first place? The young lioness then stared at her parchment.
Once she opened her arithmancy textbook, she realized that didn't have any kind or arrow. Either the positive and negative one. Was it good or bad? Well, maybe good because she didn't have a negative one. "Maybe if we didn't have either positive or negative arrow means that we're awesome and our strong personality cannot be determined by the arrow?" Ava gave an opinion. "And I agree with Sophie's words." So if they didn't have any arrow means they were dull and boring? She didn't think so. You cannot judge someone's personality just based on their birthdate and stuffs. Hmm, another good thought to follow on Sophie's. " Well I won't deny your awesomeness, dear," she said, throwing the girl a wink. " And it is possible that there are parts of your personality not addressed by the Arrows, yes." Quote:
Originally Posted by SpiritWolfe Malfoy So far so good.
Marking her date of birth on the grid hadn't been a complicated task at all. Neither had glancing at the parchment once more to see if any of her numbers made a line of three in a row. They didn't.
Therefore there wasn't much for her to do as she didn't have to worry about positive or negative arrows. "Professor maybe the lack of having a positive or negative arrow is just a way of showing us that our mindset is evenly laid out. Nothing we do is better or worse then anything else...maybe we give everything our best and that's all we ask for," Hady answered having raised her hand. It might not be a correct answer but it made sense to her. Or well it had inside her head anyhow. Oh, an interesting viewpoint from the Slytherin. Hady had progressed in her thinking quite nicely since she arrived at Hogwarts. " Similar to Mister Atreyu's idea? Except I would disagree with the second part. I personally believe that some actions certainly are better than others... though you were simply talking about some people in general, so I suppose I cannot take umbrage with that." Quote:
Originally Posted by DaniDiNardo Blaise didn't understand at first why Daxton had scribbled that he won but sitting in his seat thinking about the formation of the X's and O's he was beginning to get it...and admittedly couldn't believe he'd made such a move. Ugh. "Next time." He promised. Next time because right now he was looking at his own arrow, perfectly content to know he had one.
"Maybe not having an arrow just means they don't do things like everyone else does and that they don't fall in line with expectations." Which wasn't a bad thing at all. Made them...unique and unique was better than being generic, right?
Was it bad he was kinda wishing he didn't have an arrow now?
He wanted to be unique. A bold suggestion from the equally bold Gryffindor. " Ah, so would you then suggest that possessing no positive arrows is, in and of itself, a positive arrow?" True, the boy had not suggested as much himself, but Tiara wanted to push his thinking even more. Quote:
Originally Posted by Squishy It was nice to know that she had done the first part right, but Paulina was at a loss when it came to what her lack of any arrows meant. At least she wasn't alone in this because otherwise she would feel like the odd one out for sure.
After thinking it over a minute she raised her hand to offer a guess. "Maybe people that don't have any arrows are a mixture of different traits and don't have one that stands out in particular? That's why they are all over the place." If that wasn't the reason for it, Paulina was at a total loss. This was a different way of phrasing something that had already been mentioned. However, that did not bother Tiara in the least. Sometimes it helped students understand concepts better if they vocalized their thoughts." That is a common explanation, yes." Quote:
Originally Posted by Daydreamer11 The Arrows of Pythagoras. That was going to be interesting. Janelle listened as Professor Tanner explained about her own number pattern and positive arrow. Then Janelle opened her text book and found chapter thirty. She discovered that she had a positive arrow and hoped that it would be a good thing. There were negative arrows too, but the professor wanted to know what having no positive arrows meant.
Janelle thought about it for a moment. Then she raised her hand. "Maybe not having any positive arrows means that you strengths and weakness aren't as clear cut.......they're not as obvious......or maybe a person with no positive arrows has so many strong personality traits that it's hard to single out one or two." It was just a guess, but maybe that was the answer. Another spin on the common theme. " Or perhaps your strengths and weaknesses are not something you let others see? Many people do that with weaknesses, of course. But more reserved people have a tendency to hide their strengths occasionally.." Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry174 Angel had just realised that she had messed up her work and had missed the 1, how had she done that... she was so annoyed with herself for doing it.
3 6 9
2 5 8
1 4 7
"I think I went wrong earlier Professor." Angel sighed, seriously though she would make it all better now, right this was right and now she could see what the thing said about her, reading up on it she smiled.
"Well Professor!" Angel said after she had raised her hand. "I would say that maybe something had happen to make the person change into a not so positive way, things that are beyond our control do happen occasional." Angel had no idea why she was saying this. Tiara was glad that Angel had spotted her mistake. Actually, she hadn't noticed it herself when she was circling the room. And now the girl had hit upon an interesting thought. " Oh! So you are saying someone that is undergoing a shift in their basis traits, perhaps due to a crisis or important life event, may not display arrows?" But wait a minute, that did not really work. " An interesting thought, but our birth dates cannot change based on current life events, so that would still not change your arrows." She gave the girl a smile anyway. " But that was a profitable line of inquiry, Miss Valentine." If the girl kept thinking like that, she could be a good Arithmancer. Quote:
Originally Posted by Shanners Between reading the chapter for this class and listening to Professor Tanner, Rooney skim read the positive arrows section and made noted underneath his previous notes. Hand raised whilst he did that. "Professor? Does it mean anything if you have two in a row? Half a line? Does it mean I should be aspiring to that line?" It wasn't like he could change his birthday, but if it said he should be aiming for something then he supposed that he would consider that most definitely.
"But I think that having no arrows means that you're--oh." His gaze continued from the Professor over to Norah, the Hufflepuff Prefect with wide eyes and a sympathetic smile. Actually, alongside the smile he stood up and moved towards her desk, giving her a tight cuddle. "You're pretty and positive and lovely and we all like you in here and out of here. AND you're a Prefect, Miss Norah. Only really great people are those." Cue a look at Miss Sophie Brown, Head Girl of Hogwarts, and a BIG SMILE. And more cuddles for Miss Norah.
He should probably move back to his seat now.... Ah, an insightful question. " The location of your arrows in relation to each other does not have a particular meaning that I am aware of, but if you are curious, the library may have something to say on the subject." And she could probably recommend a few good tomes. Also, she was grateful for his kind words to the Hufflepuff Prefect.
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"So to summarize and elaborate, people with no arrows tend to be flexible, adaptable people. They do not have specific traits, either positive or negative, that could cause an imbalance." That was the key. "So I would argue that having no positive arrows could actually be a good thing. Learning to master yourself is all about finding balance, after all." In all realms of life, not just personality. "Those with arrows have a predisposition to struggle with keeping that part of themselves in check, whether because of character flaws, life circumstances, or something else."
The professor glanced at her watch. "Ah, time is making fools of us! We have just enough time to mention negative arrows, which are not necessarily bad traits." Her own numeric profile could not help her here, unfortunately. "Negative arrows are formed by making three in a row of your UNhighlighted squares. I do not have any, but your text has all the possible examples."
So they barely had time for the final thing she wanted to get to, but they could make it work. "To finish up, I would like you to find the negative and positive arrows of our most astute Headmaster Botros. His birthdate is the 14th of August in 2003." Wow, it just hit her that he was born only a few years after Lord Voldemort had finally been defeated. "Give it a go!"
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