Harvey nodded "Yeah it was er... it was... it was tough.. quite tough." he smiled.. as he thought back to that time.. it was still a little tough even after all these years.. but he assumed that was natural considering everything.. he listened as Ella talked of her granddad.. nodding along as she told him her story. "Wow he.. I agree he sounds awesome." he smiled.. was he and his grandpa close? he nodded "Yeah we were close! cause.. you see I was his first grandson.. but there had been other grandchildren.. all girls.. I mean dont get me wrong he loved them just as much as he loved me.. but with me .... and Harley he could do all the guy stuff.. like playing all the sports and doing a bit of kiddy racing and things. " he smiled.. yeah he had fond memories of his grandpa Jimbo "Though I doubt my sister would remember him" he said .. yeah she was too young to remember him.. but he and Harley would. He looked at Ella and smiled she understood how he felt to have lost someone.. and now Minnie did too .. although hers was a very big thing.